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haibe: Even though have never met you, from ur posts i know u are a proud person,.

ifeness: Yes i know one of you will come up with the ten commandments.But yet you still did not obey your god when he says;

Thou shall not worship other gods before me,and also says in Deuteronomy 13:6-10.if anyone of your brothers,sister,family members says lets go and worship another god,you should stone him to death. It shows you all are not obeying your god.

Thous shalt keep the sabbath day holy. In the bible,Numbers 15:32,the Israelite saw a man gathering sticks on the sabbath day and stoned him to death. Why don't you go about stoning people who open their shops on sabbath days.

Thou shalt not commit adultery, and its also says in Leviticus 20:10 ,you must stone whoever does it to death. It clearly shows that the muslims are the only ones obeying this god. Ain't all Christians hypocrites? You confuse yourselfs again that jesus came to abolish the laws. It is more like you guys use it whenever it suits you.

ifeness: but you just talked about me being buried with a laptop. would you be able to have a conversation with me with a bible? no! but science made it possible right? please wake up from ur sleep

ifeness: this shows how very christian you are i do not wish death on you and never would i do. It just shows you are very much an hypocrite.

ifeness: I bet your pastors got more material things than i do. After all you all claim heaven is made of gold(did i hear an alien spacecraft?) lol

You both need to wake up otherwise you gonna be wiped out with the rest of the non productive humans on the planet. Life is all about exploring and following your highest excitements ,and not getting stocked on some useless primitive books.

ifeness: Life is all about exploring and following your highest excitements

obadiah777: i will like to see you put your laptop and those material goods which is blinding you from thinking rationally, i would like to see you put it in the grave with you when you die. lets see if you can take those things with you. long throat oshi

obadiah777: you are just too s-tupid and too carnal to even see whats going on. typical poor man mentality. you cant see past material things. you are a slave to materialism. loquacious and carnal heathen

ifeness: Yea quote from the bible again and again. You clearly have a dead brain. All you know is the bible,nothing else! That is why you live in a third world country!

ifeness: Yea quote from the bible again and again. You clearly have a dead brain. All you know is the bible,nothing else! That is why you live in a third world country!

Enigma: And Jesus also is Alpha and Omega; here is just one example of where the Bible says so clearly.

Revelation 22:12

Ihedinobi: @frosbel

What, are you running sacred? Can't come up with new theories?

My bro showed up like you wanted. Your brain hasn't exploded yet, has it, dude?

You really could never never find any cogent arguments to make Jesus less than God however hard you try.

Enigma: Well, as "the last book of the Bible" says: Jesus is Alpha and Omega ---- if only you know what that means.

Delafruita: everybody is a fanatic with different levels of fanaticism.

yommyuk: The psalms, like all Scripture, are inspired and given by God (2 Tim 3:16). Each psalm originated with a human author as a prayer or praise to the Lord. The psalms are diverse, composed as the responses of God's people to him. The psalms include lament, psalms of praise, wisdom, thanksgiving, reflection on God's mighty acts, celebrations of God's revelation, and worship.

Prayers in the psalms are more than models to be imitated. They are God's instruction for righteous living. (Psalms 1,19,119)

Psalms 27 is a very popular one believed to be authored by King David. This is a psalm that can build ones confidence and strength in focusing on the Lord. A believer can stand in faith in the presence of the Lord, engaging ones adversaries with confidence. A believer with the power of the Holy Spirit cannot be intimidated or penetrated because his/her inner security is in the Lord. Therefore a believers circumstances becomes secondary. The primary concern of the believer is in his/her openness to the Lord's instruction, timing and priorities.

Key themes in this powerful psalm are the following
Remaining Confident in the Lord

Hiding in the Sanctuary of the Lord
Holding ones head high in the midst of enemies and opposition
Waiting patiently for the Lord by being brave and courageous.

If a brethen seeks my advise on how to relieve himself /herself of stress related issues. if I say read psalm 27 X 3 times in to a glass of cold water, and say the name of Jesus X 7 times in faith and drink. Is that Satanic? Absolutely no.

Acidosis: Members of some African churches believed that virtually all types of illnesses are curable with the combination of reading Psalms and the use of materials like candle, apron, sand etc. They interpret the healing method as African cultural hermenentics since there are secret powers in the bible especially in the book of Psalms which is used, positively, therapeutically, and successfully to fill the missing gap left by the Eurocentric Christianity.
Personally I do not believe in it, but it works and I don't know whether to convince or encourage a guy who recieved this prescription from a "man of God".
To Improve Your Memory:
Read Psalms 4, then cut four candles into three each, light them round and be in the middle of the candles, put some salts under each candle. Read Psalms 4 again (8 times) and call Holy Name ALATULATA.

brainpulse: Please take time to read your bible if you are christian and understand God.
God is not and never wicked, but just like every father wil do, will have set of rules and consequences if this rules are not obeyed.
Isaiah 59:1-2

ijawkid: Ubenidictus I finally got a rebuttal to your claim that there are more than one Yahweh from genesis 19:24 just to support your triune Gods stance……

This is why I love the bible…it explains itself.....I always know the bible can explain itself and will continue to do that...

It is consistent with Hebrew idiom to speak of a person’s doing something in reference to himself. We read: “Solomon proceeded to congregate the older men . . . to King Solomon.” “To Moses [Yahweh] said: ‘Go up to Yahweh . . . ’” “[Yahweh] went on to say: . . . I will save them by Yahweh.’” (1 Kings 8:1; Exodus 24:1; Hosea 1:6, 7; Zechariah 10:12)
.......
But let's consider 1 kings 8:1..

Its the perfect example..

Let's read it from other translations..I'm gonna list them....
......
##..English Standard Version (©2001)
Then"" Solomon"" assembled the elders of Israel
and all the heads of the tribes, the leaders of
the fathers’ houses of the people of Israel,
before King"" Solomon"" in Jerusalem, to bring up
the ark of the covenant of the LORD out of
the city of David, which is Zion.
........
##New American Standard Bible (©1995)
Then"" Solomon"" assembled the elders of Israel
and all the heads of the tribes, the leaders of
the fathers' households of the sons of Israel,
to King"" Solomon"" in Jerusalem, to bring up the
ark of the covenant of the LORD from the city
of David, which is Zion.
....
##..King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
Then"" Solomon"" assembled the elders of Israel,
and all the heads of the tribes, the chief of
the fathers of the children of Israel, unto
king ""Solomon"" in Jerusalem, that they might
bring up the ark of the covenant of the LORD
out of the city of David, which is Zion.

1 .....I want u to tell me how many ""solomons"" were mentioned in that verse??

2.....The 2 solomons that are mentioned in that verse are they 2 different solomons ??

3....Isn't the solomons mentioned there one and the same person??

That 1 kings 8:1 is a perfect example that corroborates with Genesis 19:24 that tells us that Yahweh brought the unprecedented sulfur and fire from himself, “from Yahweh, from the heavens”.......... So rather than being a strained prop for the unscriptural Trinity doctrine, this verse underscores the point made at Psalm 83:18: “That people may know that you, whose name is Yahweh, you alone are the Most High over all the earth.”..

My brother ubenidictus::::

Yahweh our God is one Yahweh...

Nothing can change that,not even the trinity dogmata..


It was even ratified by Jesus.....

Continue to read deuteronomy 6:4 and mark 12:29 till you abandon the trinity....

Ptolomeus: I am not a Christian.
I am not Muslim.

Surely, you are of those who insult and blaspheme the internet, but personally, hide in the shadows of his room.

In all honesty, I think the moderators have been too lenient with you.
I ended dialogue here.
Find your peace. You need it.

Image123: Guy, don't sell chinko for us here. Here is the scripture that talks about the 1000year reign,

Rev 19:11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.
Rev 19:14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.
Rev 20:2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
Rev 20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, [/b]and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshiped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and t[b]hey lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
Rev 20:5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.

The verses above are in sequence, i only picked some verses from the passage that boldly state the point on the 1000years, but they are linearly arranged. These is a return or the second coming of Jesus to earth as widely prophecied in the OT and even in the NT by angels.
Act 1:11 Which also said, Ye men of Galilee, why stand ye gazing up into heaven? this same Jesus, which is taken up from you into heaven, shall so come in like manner as ye have seen him go into heaven.
Jesus is coming physically with His saints/armies(Jud 1:14 And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints). He did not come in 45AD or 193AD. When He comes, every eye will see Him(Rev 1:7 Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen. ) It's not going to be in secret that only a select few(obad77,fmk and their group) will know that Jesus came and stayed a thousand years. He will reign wherever the sun shines.

nakash: Muhammad died in 632 AD. His most loyal wife was 18 years then having been sexed by the prophet till 621 when she was nine. After Muhammads death up came the Shia and the Sunnis over wealth squabbles. Today it continues Lagosshia is a shia 15% of Islam while the Sunnis are 85 % .i have lumped their offshoots like the Syrians,bahais, etc.

aletheia: Your post is disjointed and chaotic in terms of organization. Why is it that you are most coherent only when you are cutting-and-pasting others' articles?
I repeat. . .you are a hypocrite. You appealed to the Hebrew lexicon and yet when others do so you accuse them of trying to appear "a step above the others intellectually." Your own words indict you --- self-righteous Pharisee:



You are dishonest and lazy. . .hence you avoid the main issue raised and go after red herrings. Typical debating tactic! The main thrust of your argument is simply that in Malachi 3:1-3 since adon clearly refers to Jesus Christ, it cannot then be referring to Jehovah. I simply pointed out to you and others who may be reading that adon is used of Jehovah several times in the OT, even providing an example from Micah (or don't you understand what the words "for example" in my post mean?).


Obviously you are afraid of what the scriptures clearly say. . .and we are at liberty to quote from Genesis to Revelation for the whole scriptures testify of Jesus.

Tell us frosbel in Isa 6:1. . .which Lord is sitting on the throne?
In the year that king Uzziah died I saw also the Lord sitting upon a throne, high and lifted up, and his train filled the temple.
Isa 6:1

I repeat my question to you:


. . .but of course you will go haring off at another tangent since you wont be able to find an article to cut-and-paste in response

brainpulse: Let us Analyse this bible verse and raise some vital questions which I believe will help us.

John 3:16
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

1. What is the meaning of the Perish used in that context (because for something to perish means it has no chance of coming back to life)? It could mean a state of destruction, unredeemable state of calamity and everlasting sorrow and rejection.

2. What is Everlasting life and the need for this? Everlasting life means a state of man living perpetually.If man will live perpetually then man will not had experienced the first death. That means there is a second life and that might take eternity after the first death.

3. Why did God want us to live perpetually? I believe we will now go to the rea son why he created Man, the purpose of the first Adam to enjoy and have a relationship with him which He still desires.

4. If God had loved the world so much and wouldnt want anybody to perish in the first place then there would be no reason to allow Jesus to redeem the world. I believe He knew the consequences will be fatal for man if He didnt come with the Plan of Salvation. He saw this and He would do everything to save man if only man took the choice given to him by God.

So if man will not perish and suffer for life then there is no reason for Jesus to come, He could just live man alone since after death nothing happens

Image123: It's not making sense, how you'd rather use the definition of hell to define a fanatic, when i'm reasonably asking you to use the direct definition of fanatic.
Any regular user of the section knows that you are a fanatic, open your eyes beloved.

plappville: Ohh, so one needs to sign an agreement with this doctrine? They made it an obligation in oder to for it to be sealed
What can one do then? Itsnt it wrong to worship in a place where they they do not teach pure doctrine of Christ? This reminds me of...(the god of this world has blinded thier minds......) waooh, kill/force people to believe what is not in the bible

obadiah777: ERMM YOU DO KNOW WHAT SPIRIT MEANS RIGHT ? SPIRIT MEANS 'PNEUMA' WHICH IS BREATH. SCOFFER. ITS THE SPIRIT THAT MAKES YOU BREATHE.

Jenwitemi: Because the subject interests me. Now why did you appear yourself?

Jenwitemi: Because the subject interests me. Now why did you appear yourself?

Enigma: The matter is very simple; you only need to answer a simple question honestly. It is sufficient if you answer it truthfully to yourself, you don't have to answer it publicly here.

Is Jesus Christ not the Person referred to as Alpha and Omega in Revelation 22:12? Simples.

Enigma: The matter is very simple; you only need to answer a simple question honestly. It is sufficient if you answer it truthfully to yourself, you don't have to answer it publicly here.

Is Jesus Christ not the Person referred to as Alpha and Omega in Revelation 22:12? Simples.

Ihedinobi: You know, I've been frustrated and angry with you guys. Then, I was uncaring and amused by you guys. Now, I'm just saddened. But now also, I can wield all three groups of emotion depending on the situation.

Look at your arguments up there. The thing that used to baffle me about frosbel when I first tried to discuss with him was his seeming lack of appreciation for the fact that if one comes up with an understanding of certain verses in the Bible and another questions apparent disagreement between them and another or other verse or verses, one would be breaking the Scriptures by trying to either discount the troublesome passages or giving them meanings that obviously force them to yield to one's interpretations. And you guys are wont to do that.

It shows up in your arguments. When you get to difficult passages you choose the most absurd interpretations and when that just doesn't do, you question the translation. You never at any point realize that you're making excuses for rejecting the true meaning of the Scriptures that you're looking at.

Here you ask me if we're false gods. How about if I ask you if we're God at all? Do you think you have an answer other than to run right back and lift out of context a passage that says to human beings that they are gods? What if instead of lifting verses out of their context, you take account of their contextual meaning? Would the arguments of your opponents hold any merit then?

What if also you considered the position of your opponents that Jesus Christ is true Man and true God, forgetting for an instant how that can be possible? Would it make any sense at all? If Jesus is truly human, is it be too strange that He should say that He was sent by God? If He is truly God, is it strange that He should say that He and the Father are one? If God is a Trinity, is it too strange that He, the Word, could become a man and pray to Him, the Father in Heaven?

The truth is that these things are just the facts that the Bible gives. That it does not make sense to you is of very little moment at all. It doesn't count that you do not understand it. If you demand that you understand it before you believe it, that's your problem. I couldn't be bothered. Nobody becomes part of the Family of God on anyone else's faith but that of the Lord Christ Himself.

ApostlePat: Yours is an insightful and revelation such as the Apostle John. The Apostle called such people ANTICHRIST operating in the spirit of Antichrist of the end time. Apostle John wrote in II John 1 vs 7, in the New Living Translation, "I say this because many deceivers have gone out into the world. They deny that Jesus Christ came in a real body. Such a person is a deceiver and an antichrist".

What in the world is this Apostle saying to our generation by revelation? The same Apostle wrote in John 1:1 and 14,
"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the One and Only, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth".

The Apostle John is saying to our generation by revelation that the Word that is God and was with God became flesh or human and dwell among us. This Word is Christ in his pre-existence and this Jesus is God. Any Christian that says Jesus Christ is not God, though not the Father, such Christian is operating in the spirit of Antichrist of the last days.



Again, yours is a kingdom statement filled with the knowledge of the word of God. All New Testament writers agree that Jesus is God that came to us in human form. Apostle Paul confess same eternal truth. In I Timothy 3 vs 16 in the GOD'S WORD® Translation says "The mystery that gives us our reverence for God is acknowledged to be great: He appeared in his human nature, was approved by the Spirit, was seen by angels, was announced throughout the nations, was believed in the world, and was taken to heaven in glory".

The "He" therein is God. Who on earth is this God that appeared in human nature? It was Jesus Christ, not the Father and in this verse Jesus Christ is God. BELOVED, BEWARE OF THE ANTICHRIST SPIRITS AND DECEIVERS IN THE LAST DAYS!

ApostlePat: Yours is an insightful and revelation such as the Apostle John. The Apostle called such people ANTICHRIST operating in the spirit of Antichrist of the end time. Apostle John wrote in II John 1 vs 7, in the New Living Translation, "I say this because many deceivers have gone out into the world. They deny that Jesus Christ came in a real body. Such a person is a deceiver and an antichrist".

What in the world is this Apostle saying to our generation by revelation? The same Apostle wrote in John 1:1 and 14,
"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the One and Only, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth".

The Apostle John is saying to our generation by revelation that the Word that is God and was with God became flesh or human and dwell among us. This Word is Christ in his pre-existence and this Jesus is God. Any Christian that says Jesus Christ is not God, though not the Father, such Christian is operating in the spirit of Antichrist of the last days.



Again, yours is a kingdom statement filled with the knowledge of the word of God. All New Testament writers agree that Jesus is God that came to us in human form. Apostle Paul confess same eternal truth. In I Timothy 3 vs 16 in the GOD'S WORD® Translation says "The mystery that gives us our reverence for God is acknowledged to be great: He appeared in his human nature, was approved by the Spirit, was seen by angels, was announced throughout the nations, was believed in the world, and was taken to heaven in glory".

The "He" therein is God. Who on earth is this God that appeared in human nature? It was Jesus Christ, not the Father and in this verse Jesus Christ is God. BELOVED, BEWARE OF THE ANTICHRIST SPIRITS AND DECEIVERS IN THE LAST DAYS!

Enigma: You said that the title "Alpha and Omega" is exclusive to God the Father.

All I have done is to show you just one example (there are other examples) where the title "Alpha and Omega" is claimed by Jesus.

Now you are singing a different tune!

Answer this question honestly: does Revelation 22:12 use "Alpha and Omega" for Jesus or not?