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Otherwise, if you feel Yahweh have a mental problem that will make him make those utterances without a reason, you also tell us.

Thank you.

rudedough: I don tire abeg make una leave me make I rest.

Okija juju kill chicken drink the blood Christians shout holy ghost fire for Okija juju head. God kill the same chicken drink the blood Christians say na dispensation.

Ogun kill person for sacrifice, Christian shout devilish shrine, coven of witches and wizard, holy ghost fire. God kill person use am do sacrifice, Christian say God get right to kill.

Abeg I don tire for all of una. Serve your juju and let other people serve their own. No try to convert anybody to Christ cos if babalawo come ur house to convert u, u no go gree.

Make una leave me I take God name beg una.

No, not yet, dont get tired.

"We christians dont read our bibles, that is why we still remain christians".

^^^, agreed!

So, you that have red the bible, do me a fevour, post all the context that led to those blood on sword etc you posted let us learn with you that have red the bible.

Is it only those short verse with blood stain that you posted that is contain in the bible or it is only what you saw ?

Please, educate us "ignorant christians" please.

Please, dont tell us you did not read beyond those passages, afteral, you have been reading the bible from infancy, hence, at this stage, it will be at your finger tip, the background info on them.

Dont fall my hand o!

Please, post the reasons that led to what you had posted.

Yes! I demand for it, there is always a reason for every thing unless it is madness.
There is a reason that led to Drummerboy opening this thread. No ?

So, post the reasons for those scriptures you posted and not posting them out of context.

Thank you.

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Otherwise, if you feel Yahweh have a mental problem that will make him make those utterances without a reason, you also tell us.

rationalmind: Talk to a christian about the bible and the response is, ooh, you do not understand the bible.

Can you dignify yourself by bringing the portions of the bible you guys posted and pinpoint what led to those uttrances ?

Where those statement made with a precedence ?

Do you do things without a reason ? Maybe, that is why your lot will conclude that those statement were pen down without reasons.

If there were reasons and situations that led to those statements and you guys ignores them and posted them ignoring the reasons that led to there being made, it tells alot about the way your brains works.

Now, to show that you have fully functional brains, please, for each of those scriptures that you and your partner posted, bring the reasons why those statements where made and lets see, so that we can conclude that you know how to read and comprehend and not copy and pest/key word search that you did.

If you cannot post them in context for all to see, then, you lot lack the ability to follow the rational process of study and comprehension.

Unless, you come here and say that nothing, absolutely nothing, led to those statement you posted on blood and that we should take it like that, if there were and you ignored them, it may be a sign of an inherent disfunctions.

rudedough: See blood every where like say here na Okija shrine.. Abeg hold that blood well make it no stain my white.

That ^ is another statement based on ignorance and human limitation not knowing the part blood play with life.

Again, wrongly asumming that spirit creatures sees blood the way humans sees it.

Does Spirit creatures have phobia for blood like humans ?

Just like some people will see blood and pass out, meanwhile, the medical doctor have no such problems.

An empty can makes the loudest noise actually.

In such ignorance you posted disjointed OT scriptures devoid of the history that led to the statement under consideration, even when it was a prophesy of what will happend to Isreal in the hands of their enemy if they dont repent.

All, you posted as Yahweh's actions.

Keep feeding your delusion.

rudedough: I purposely emphasized on "What is the punishment for disobedience to your parents?" because i want to talk about how "disrespectful" and "hypocritical" Jesus was.

Let's look at how the good Jesus's treats his mother:

* Jesus does not call his own mother "mother" he calls her "woman". Not once, but many times in the bible. How disrespectful is that?

* Jesus left his mother who came to see him standing outside in the cold while he discusses with his disciples inside.

Luke 8:19 – 21. “Someone told him, ‘Your mother and brothers are standing outside, wanting to see you.’ He replied, ‘My mother and brothers are those who hear God’s word and put it into practice

Tell me more about Jesus and his moral respects to his parents. Why didn't he stone himself to death as recommended by the law he came to fulfill propagate. Or are these not disrespectful enough? Talking about hypocrisy

Oh sharrap!

All this distortion because you posted out of context scriptures and an absolute ignorance of the get go of how the bible got to the instances you posted ?

Is that the way to read ?

I will not blame you though, the problam comes with people carrying the bible without getting the complete gist of OT and NT, but reads and concentrates only on the NT.

Yeah! That is why you can post disjointed portions and get away with it, even posting symbolism of Revelation. Smh.

The same thing here again, you have posted NT about Jesus without context and knowledge of what the story line was, and with your disjointed scriptures, you are talking into it. Nonsense!

You must be prouding yourself that you know what the rest of mankind dont know concerning the bible all along. Smh.

Keep feeding your delussion.

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@mynd @Pagan 9ja

if this is the mode of defending peganism as done by macof, then the PR is very poor, i have had to endure his insult repeatedly on this board.

That mynd got him now seems well deserved due to his antecedence:

macof: @Truthislight

I can't agree that Genesis6 had anything to do with angels because IT DOESN'T

You see wat foreign brainwash and mental slavery is- you call ur ancestors demon worshipers smh. Slaves that's wat Christians are. 'Stuupid low life Slaves'. You have sold their birth right to Israel

https://www.nairaland.com/1547391/sons-god-fallen-angels/3#20288873

That ^ cursing is after he has called Yahweh all sort of names and no one curses him back.

[quote author=Mynd_44]I nominated it too.

Now as regards the Macof ban, the Tenure of his ban is in accordance with the term stipulated by the admin which says 3 days for first offenders and the it doubles after that.

He got 6 days cos it was the second time he is banned for it and the third time, he will get 12 days etc...... So there is nothing I can do to shorten it. If he can't learn to use the "report" feature, he will keep getting these bans.

Oh let me remind Ishilove and Vicky0 that off topic on this thread is not allowed. One more post from anyone and it is a ban[/quote]It will be good that he reduces his insults on this board.

highyo: where were you when the church was established? Were you there when Chalse was on earth? Do you know him one on one? Do you even know what he belief?
My dear, the bible said I have present before you life and death, choose life my dear.
If you keep saying your soul will remain with your body on earth, then you have called the bible lies. And indirectly you call God a liar and his son. Even when Jesus spoke about Lazarus and Rich man.
Bro, truely I said unto you, if you die, your soul will be isolated from your body immediately and you will surely appear before God's throne for judgement. Your pastor mummy and daddy will not be there to defend you
that which you have taken away from the bible will stand against you, for the bible said, whosoever take away from the word, his name will be taken away from the book of life.
Do you want to take the risk? Ethernity is forever

Ok.
I think it is time for us to help our self by interchange of encouragement.

What do you think about soul and what it is, pls, elucidate clearly.

The bible will and should have the final say.

Am waiting.

Peace

plappville: Hello Mon frère/brother, Every at my end fine welwell. We thank Papa God for his blessings. Yes I ve not been punctual because I was expecting a great gift from God. Thank God, the gift arrived successfully. I hope you are fine too? Thanks for checking on....God bless.

You are welcome sis.

Congratulation to you for the wonderful gift.

Am happy to know that all is well with you.

Peace to you ma sister.

ooman: Sorry but by observation, you are wrong. Blind people aren't super in any way, they are infact called the less priviledged so try again.

again, you got me on the wrong end.

I was actually taking your side.

That if there is a transcendental being inside the human person, it will not need a physical eye to see when the eye are closed or bad.

Go read it again.

You may have to learn to cool down a bit also.

Peace.

ooman: This animating force is not necessary. What powers you is the food you eat.

Well then, go ahead and assemble matter in the form and look and feel of a man(animal) and pump Oxygen into it and see it start breathing and come to life.

And dont forget, feel free to feed it also.

Have a nice day.

Peace.

Bidam: Too much heresies here #unfollows thread#

Your opinion is insignificant and not biding but the scriptures does.

Use the scriptures to show what is this "heresis" you talk about.

Dont just say it, show it.

Are you Yahweh ?

Bidam: Only the arch angels have that privilege bro.. not angels..you need to quote a scripture where God gave angels free will.

Dont you think you also need to quote scriptures too to show that "only archangel have freewill" ?

If Angels dont have freewill, how come they were able to disobey Yahweh and decided to obey Satan, that a third of them fell ?

doubleDx: Maybe I should ask him if it's possible for demons that serves Satan to become humans?

On that ^, there is no evidence for that.

However, there are indication that such angels cannot do such.

1.

"And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years." (Genesis 6:3).
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From that, we can deduce that the ability for this disobedient Angels to continue to materialized to human cannot continue.

And for this second reason also:

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"By which also he went and preached unto the spirits(angels) in prison; Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water." (1 Peter 3:19-20).
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those disobedient angels/demons being in tatarus/prison cannot have that capacity/freedom to turn to humans and neither will God who said he will not allow his spirit to continue such allow them again.

3.

"For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;" (2 Peter 2:4).
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How can they ^ be in chains and can still have such capacity ? No. They dont, else, the reason for destroying the world of Noah's day and their upspring would have been defeated.

Yes, someone in prison can influence those outside with talk and other means, but cannot do such physically.

Peace

No body said this here.

Bidam: So God permitted angels to marry women This is a huge joke..SMH!

but rather, this is what happend:

"That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which 'they' chose." (Genesis 6:2).
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"They took", "they chosed" and not that God gave women to them, but they are free moral agent just as Adam decided to eat the fruit and not That God gave it to them.

A free moral agent has a permanent Freewill/permission to whatever he wants, but when he uses such freewill to serve God, God appreciates it and not by force, so also to disobey.

"For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them in to tatarus, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment; And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth person, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly;" (2 Peter 2:4-5).
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you cannot say God 'permited' them when the bible says they sinned.

If God hard held the hands of cain when he wanted to kill his brother, how will we come to know today that Cain was a wicked man ?

God does not held people and angels from acting out their intentions, but allow all to do whatever he wishes so that when he Judges the person, the judgement will be consistent and just.

If God should hold some people from doing bad and and leave some to do bad and judge them according to their works, then, that will be injustice in his part.

Angel/spirit persons can materialised to have physical bodies like it was with the angels that visited the prophet of old.

They ate and drank and wrestle, why do you think they dont have pen.is ?

They dont have pen.is but they have dijestive system for the food they ate ? Which is easier ?

ignis: Where is this thing from?

Is your husband a pastor ?

Do you survive on tithe money ?

Why are you accusing someone without evidence ?

Fraudulent people hate the truth since they thrive in darkness and deceits.

You cannot like people like me, i dont wish to endose lies and exploitations.

Kindly go get a job or you learn a craft so that you can be employed, then you can decently have enough for yourself and can give from your hard work to others.

Jesus was a carpenter.
Peter fisher man.
Paul tenth maker.

But your pastors work is pastor, na so ?

See:

"And that ye study to be quiet, and to do your own business, and to work with your own hands, as we commanded you;" (1 Thessalonians 4:11).
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That ^ is the instructions for all christians.

That you like to be deceived or rather you and your pastor husband maybe exploiting people is not the way of true christianity.

This reproached on this thread is on your head.

I await your reply please.

Peace

doubleDx: Bruv, you've explained it all!!

The emboldened is self explanatory...."WHEN MEN BEGAN TO MULTIPLE ON EARTH AND DAUGHTERS WHERE BORN UNTO THEM"<<<< This clearly shows that the writer was referring to "ALL MEN" on Earth at that the time as "MEN" and NOT some as "SONS OF GOD"!

It amazes me when I see people twist self-explanatory scriptures like this one!

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It is either they are harden in error or they have learnt here and upgraded.

Those harden in error will see the truth and closed their eyes to it.

ignis: The op is lying... He just sat down and fabricate this story, just to make a ridicule of the church.

Sharrap!

How do you know he is lying ?

Do you live in the same house with him ?

lynpetra: The pastor go shock o

Who cares!

The bible tithe was farm produce and not money.

When tithe was done by the Jews, it was impossible for this rubbish to happend, cause it was what you have gotten from the Ground 100% sure that was call for as tithe.

But he that oversteps God's commandments should be ready to bear the consequences.

The provision for biblical tithing was perfect with no room for reproach.

Let this liars keep showing what they are by their fruitage.

Acidosis: I know the mods would soon place this garbage on front page just to further ridicule the Church of God.

Nope!

Fraudstars are rediculling themself and not True christianity.

The parkaging of true christianity can not be reproached

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plappville: Put Him back? Was Christ the original figure/reason of christmas?

You cannot change the truth behind this festival by quoting scriptures.

Ma sis plapbaby, long long time no see, how are you and every every every ?

Its good to hear from you.

Deep Sight: ^^^ Do you really expect me to bother with a man who, in such few posts, renders such scandalous illiteracy? A man who says that there is a part of the brain called "the self" and that madness is caused by losing a part of your brain.

Lol. Enjoy jaare. I will await better denouncers of my very simple - even simplistic - posers.

Actually, madness is no big deal.

All it takes is for the brain to lose some part of its imformation.

Just losing the address to your home is madness.

By the time you walk to and fro of the both extremes of your street for a day, not knowing your home, because its been lost in your brain, then those that care about you will send you to the right home > psychiatric home.

What do we call that ^

ooman: no need for stories. What is a eye without a brain, what is a brain without a eye? Complement of both makes for a function. The decisive part of the brain is the self, the self is not complete without the eye and other organs. They all work together to make a complete human. Simple

The question to ask is:

why does an immaterial being need a material eye to see ?

Such a being should transcend the body rendering the material eyes redundant.

But is the revers not the case ? Close or plug off the eyes and see how super this being is. Smh.

Hmmmm!

Great post Ooman.

ooman: Do you need to be told that it takes a decisive mind to make up a "self"?

The brain has perception and experience, so material construct in specific configuration can and do have perception. What we dont have an evidence for is your "being that inhabits the body"

That ^ was beautifully said.

If you add the aspact of the animating force that powers the brain and body, then, the bible becomes your ally.

Though i will used this post as a basis for what i want to talk about, in no way am i addressing it to frosbel in particular.

Frosbel is someone that i have come to regard as someone that is digging for the truth, and we share certain beliefs in common, however, that been said, i will proceed to make my post.

frosbel: the sons of God weere human beings and not angelic beings.

There are things that are suprising in the christiandom of today, and that is the acute shortage of the knowledge of the truth.

Yes, thats ^ true!

For there is a zeal that they display, but directed at error:

"For I bear them record that they have a zeal for God, but not according to knowledge." (Romans 10:2).
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Hence ^, the effort is on the wrong direction and their claims are false.

One of such is what has been reveal on this thread, that people carry the bible and read from Genesis to Revelation, but the import of the message is lost on them.

The message and what happened in Genesis is very clear, that God drove Adam away, hence, a seperation took place, (though he was called son of God).

As a result of that seperation, a process was put in place to bring the messaiah that will reconcile Adam's children back to God:

"And all things are of God, who hath reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ, and hath given to us the ministry of reconciliation; To wit, that God was in Christ, reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation." (2 Corinthians 5:18-19).

That ^ is the bible message.

But this message seems lost on so call christians.

How else do you see christians claiming to be born again but failing to note its significance ?
Why is it that people claim to be "born again" without knowing its implication ?


Why do human need to be 'BORN AGAIN' to be SONS OF GOD ?

This and many more questions begs for answers.

The bible clearly shows that the reasons for humans to be born again is to attain the status of being 'SONS OF GOD', - for a purpose.

Yes, thats ^ true, they have to be born again > to be called SONS OF GOD, and the reason is because of what that had happend in EDEN:

"For the creature was made subject to corruption, not willingly, but by reason of him who hath subjected the same in hope," (Romans 8:20).
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As a result:

"For the earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons of God." (Romans 8:19).
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Yes, thats ^ true, and christ made that ^ possible.

That the claimants of born again dont know its significance is a very seriouse matter.

See:

"For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the 'sons of God'. For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father. The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God: And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together. For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us." (Romans 8:14-18).
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That ^ is actually what being a born again means > rebirth in the spirit< the attainment of sonship via adoption.

That is very clear indeed from the above, that people claim that they are born again and not know its implication that it is the process of bestoring sonship is disheartening, and being empty of this basic truth, though he claims "born again" makes me wander with great wanderment.

How else can they say that the "SONS OF GOD" mention at Genesis is a reference to human/children of Adam ? Smh.

When were those children of Adam begotten of the Holy Spirit ?

The bible is a great book, but many people dont know and conclude that choices of words are very random, infact, they dont know how seriouse the information contain in the bible is.

It is my humble sugestions that those that claim to be born again but dont know the many significance do a thorough reexamination of the scriptures to understand its implications and not allow their minds berief of dept of this bible truth play tricks on them because:

"The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:" (Romans 8:16).
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If that ^ is true of them, they should know the so many significance of being "BORN AGAIN".

Born again No be for mouth!

Born again is NOT repentance.

Paece

Sal C: I think you should go back to that thread and sanitize it the more since you've already started.

COMPLAINT!

@mod.

Please mynd.

There is a thread some two years ago or so that someone mentioned 'Ignorance' in a post, can i search for it and bring it so that you can hid the post and ban the person ?

I will be very glad if you will.

bizmahn: Any surprise? You easily reveal your moral bankruptcy all the time.If I push you a little now & you pour out more filth.And yet we should listen to you & folks like kun on alcohol & christian matters? God forbid.

Run along now!

We dont need more lies from your kind here.

Take it to your churches where you feed the ignorant ones lies and collect their money.

bizmahn: And which misled personality fed you the trash you spew all the time on this forum.Was the verse addressing Christian believers or Jews.The old testament also supports polygamy,bloody vengeance,marriage between blood half relatives,animal sacrifices,fighting & destroying enemy nations,divorce of any kind etc.I suppose these are for christians too in your definition.
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I won't waste my time further.I only reply such threads to shield the SINCERE FEW that will fall into the deception of folks like you.So far I have accomplished my purpose.
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If you are a drunkard or defiled, please go ahead and drink to your fill till you stand before God in judgement.Quit dragging innocent uncontaminated souls down with you.

Nope!

You are rather the one passing out lies on this thread.

If the almighty asked for strong drink and took it, who are you to be more righteouse than the almighty himself ?

Woe on you for claiming to be over righteouse than the almighty:

"And the drink offering thereof shall be the fourth part of an hin for the one lamb: in the holy place shalt thou cause the intoxicating liquor (strong wine) to be poured unto the LORD for a drink offering." (Numbers 28:7).

bizmahn: Behold how this fellow will subvert scriptures that had nothing to show that Jesus ever took alcoholic wine, all to tag the sinless son of God a drunkard & all to canvass support for an evil habit.
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Well its not new.Even if you want to twist scriptures to allow you engage in gay relationships there are many ways to do it.Present day gay churches even preach that John the beloved leaning on the bossom of Jesus in the last supper means they had gay relationship.God have mercy on you folks.

He has shown you what the bible says that does not support your lies, instead of accepting it, you are here shading crocodile tears.

Take the truth and free yourself from the lie that "alcohol is a sin."

bizmahn: bro, visit any supermart in town and ask for non alcoholic wine with 0% alcohol and you are offered so many varieties in that range.If unholy sinful man can make wine with zero alcohol 0% why is it difficult for people to agree that Jesus a sinless holy personality made zero alcohol 0% wine in cana.

Yeah, lipton tea is a "non alcoholic wine".

But a non alcoholic wine is an oxymoron:

"Wine is a mocker, strong drink is raging: and whosoever is deceived thereby is not wise." (Proverbs 20:1).
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Is that ^ "non alcoholic wine" ?

bible wine has alcohol.

read that ^ and upgrade your ignorance.

Palm "wine" comes from God with alcohol in it naturally, you empty headed false tradition teacher, learn the truth and leave falsehood.