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Abuamam:
Are you saying that 'Luke's' genealogy is more probable than 'Matthew's'? Ok. So we dump 'Matthew's' as being a lie.

'Luke' made an error also by adding Cainan to his genealogy. Do we dump the gospel 'according to Luke' also? Or do we dump the book of Genesis for omitting it?




Lol. We are in the 21st century, not xtian dark ages. Nobody today (except evangelicals) believes that the ACTUAL disciples wrote any part of the NT; just because their names were fraudulently appended thereto. The only books of the NT whose authorship can be guessed at with any degree of objective analysis, are SOME letters of Paul. And hard as he tried to justify his heathen amalgamation of Roman gods and reformed Judaism, Paul was NEVER a disciple of Jesus.
The Quran endorsed the TRUE disciples of Jesus (as), not frudulent 4th century monks passing off their writings as disciples.

NT genealogy is important in the sense that it is one more clue that shows off your NT as one big fraud (MAYBE with a few accurate sayings of the prophet Isa (as) here and there).

If you say the NT is a fraud, what do you call the quran? I noticed all of you are looking away from my thread for inability to defend allah's fraud in the quran. See it again:

https://www.nairaland.com/2260353/muslims-why-did-fail-probe

Paul wrote many epistles of the Gospel. If there was anyone who should attract allahh's attention in the bible, it is Paul. Paul had written all he wrote before Muhammad's islam, but allahh didn't dispute his writings as you islam adherents are doing today. The bible had exited in the form it is now before Muhammad's islam, yet allah didn't make any comment about him. It shows allahh was forced to bow to Paul's writings. The miracles allahh and his prophet, muhammad were unable to perform were Paul's normal evangelical life.

Allahh claimed to have given Jesus a book as in: He (Jesus) said: Surely I am a servant of Allah; He has given me the Book and made me a prophet (Quran 19:30 Shakir).

Who wrote the Book and where is it if not the writings of the Disciple?

If the accusations in the OP is true, then allah must have made a serious mistake by calling the Disciples TRUE WITNESSES:

Quran 3:52 Pickthal] But when Jesus became conscious of their disbelief, he cried: Who will be my helpers in the cause of Allah? The disciples said: We will be Allah's helpers. We believe in Allah, and bear thou witness that we have surrendered (unto Him).

[Quran 3:53 Pickphal] Our Lord! We believe in that which Thou hast revealed and we follow him whom Thou hast sent. Enrol us among those who witness (to THE TRUTH).

Muslims do know better than their god when it comes to arguments.

The Disciples wrote the Gospel with their utmost honesty and if there is any mistake, it was in utmost good faith. Genealogy is not so much important to the Gospel and it was not an account by Jesus Himself. Muhammad's companions might not be able to tell his accurate genealogy from a long distance and if they were asked to do so, their account would vary.

Do you discover quran does not attempt to tell any genealogy of any prophets? It shows you it is not an important issue.

Empiree:
Lol, the verse is definitely not talking about you. You dont worship Allah(God), the Lord of the universe. You worship human (man-god), you believe in doctrine contrary to doctrine brought by Jesus (the worship of One God), some of you worship Mary, some of you worship son. So definitely that verse is not talking about you and 2 billion Christians. You applied literal approach to this ayah. But here, we are dealing with exegesis. There are several tafsir of the ayah(read below).

The Qur'an makes it an article of faith to believe in Allah and all the messengers. This includes Prophet Muhammad. According to the Qur'an, when Moses came with the Taurat, it was necessary to follow him, when Jesus came with the Injil, it was necessary to leave the laws of Moses and follow him. Finally, when Muhammad came with the Qur'an, it became necessary to leave the teachings of Jesus and follow Islam.

And who believe in that which has been revealed to you and that which was revealed before you and they are sure of the hereafter. These are on a right course from their Lord and these it is that shall be successful.
Qur'an 2:4-5

Ali bin Abi Talhah narrated from Ibn Abbas, about,
(Verily, those who believe and those who are Jews and Christians, and Sabians, whoever believes in Allah and the Last Day) that Allah revealed the following Ayah afterwards, (And whoever seeks religion other than Islam, it will never be accepted of him, and in the Hereafter he will be one of the losers) (3:85).

This statement by Ibn `Abbas indicates that Allah does not accept any deed or work from anyone, unless it conforms to the Law of Muhammad that is, after Allah sent Muhammad . Before that, every person who followed the guidance of his own Prophet was on the correct path, following the correct guidance and was saved.
When Allah sent Muhammad as the Last and Final Prophet and Messenger to all of the Children of Adam, mankind was required to believe in him, obey him and refrain from what he prohibited them; those who do this are true believers. The Ummah of Muhammad was called `Mu'minin' (believers), because of the depth of their faith and certainty, and because they believe in all of the previous Prophets and matters of the Unseen.

Please read further tafsir from other mufassir of the verse you quoted from the link below.
http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Christians_Jews_and_Muslims_in_Heaven#Tafsir_Ibn_Abbas

All your explanations here are real nonsense. The issue is a straight forward one that requires no twisting you made.

Those who believe (in the Qur'an), and those who follow the Jewish (scriptures), and the Christians and the Sabians,- any who believe in Allah and the Last Day, and work righteousness, shall have their reward with their Lord; on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve (Quran 2:62 YusufAli).

Now, the questions are:

Allah knew what the Jews believed, didn't he?

Allah knew what the Christians believed, didn't he? In fact, he accused the Christians of worshiping Jesus and Mary (Quran 5:116).

With the full knowledge of the Jews and Christians belief, he still said:

Those who believe (in the Qur'an), and those who follow the Jewish (scriptures), and the Christians and the Sabians,- any who believe in Allah and the Last Day, and work righteousness, shall have their reward with their Lord; on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve (Quran 2:62).

Later, allah discovered that in his efforts to deceive the people, he had made a mistake in quran 2:62, he had to reverse his statement in:

If anyone desires a religion
other than Islam (submission to
Allah), never will it be accepted
of him; and in the Hereafter He
will be in the ranks of those
who have lost (All spiritual
good).
Qur'an 3:85

Can you see the kind of god you worship? A god that is never consistent. There are so many of such reversals in allahh's words - the quran. Check,

https://www.nairaland.com/2260353/muslims-why-did-fail-probe

The truth is allahh is not the God of heaven. He is satan in disguise who pretended as the God of the bible prophets to deceive humanity. Unfortunately, you happen to be one of the 1.8 billion muslims he has successfully deceived. Sorry for you. May you be set free in Jesus name.

EzioAuditore

I discovered that you have no answer to my question: Why did allah promise the Jews and Christians heaven with reward despite all the negative things he said about their books (Quran 2:62)? I have given you a link where you have the opportunity to see how allah was deceiving the muslims by saying one thing today and reversing it tomorrow. Since you don't know the use of a link, go to islam section and read "Why did Muslims Fail To Probe This". No muslim could give any defence.

Lmao! Did I really leave you that speechless?

I am so sure you have been deceived. You have been armed with so many write-ups by islamc teachers, who interpret the Bible wrongly to suit their own purposes and that is why it is easy for you to copy and paste very long posts. You don't expect me to respond to posts that are as voluminous as the whole Bible, containing so many irrelevances.

I will raise up for them a prophet (Prophet) from among their brethren like you, and will put My words in his mouth; and he shall speak to them all that I command him. 19 And whoever will not hearken to My words which he shall speak in My name, I Myself will require it of him. 20 But the prophet who presumes to speak a word in My name which I have not commanded him to speak, or who speaks in the name of other gods, that same prophet shall die.

—Deuteronomy 18:18-20

It is because you are new on nairaland. This has been debunked many times over. Moses was addressing the Israelites he was leading out of Egypt to Canaan. He told them God would raise a prophet from among their brethren, not among Arabs. He was addressing his people and not Arabians. And that prophet was Jesus.

Was Muhammad like unto Moses? Muhammad went about sleeping with anything in skirt: baby Aisha, slaves and many women. Was that what Moses did?

Behold! My Servant, whom I uphold; My Elect One, in whom My soul delights! I have put My Spirit upon Him; He will bring forth justice to the Gentiles. 2 He shall not cry out, nor raise His voice, nor cause His voice to be heard in the street. 3 A bruised reed shall He not break,and smoking flax shall He not quench. In truth He shall bring forth justice. 4 He shall not fail nor be discouraged, till He has established justice in the earth; and the islands shall wait for His law."

—Isaiah 42:1

How did Muhammad, a killer qualify for this? His law. Did you note the word "His" that the 'h' is in capital? When did they begin to use capital 'h' for Muhammad? I tell you the truth, you have been deceived.

Sing unto the Lord a new song, and[b]His praise[/b]from the ends of the earth, you who go down to the sea, and all that is therein, the islands, and the inhabitants thereof! 11 Let the wilderness and its cities lift up their voice, the villages that Kedar inhabits. Let the inhabitants of Sela sing, let them shout from the top of the mountains. 12 Let them give glory to the Lord, and declare His praise in the islands. 13 The Lord shall go forth like a mighty man; He shall stir up jealousy like a man of war: He shall cry, yea, roar; He shall prevail against His enemies.

—Isaiah 42:10

Did you also note "His praise" that the 'h' is in capital? When did they begin to use capital 'h' for Muhammad? In the bible, as far as muslims are concerned, anywhere Jesus name is not specifically mentioned, it is talking about Muhammad. Sorry for you.

God will come from the south, and the holy one from mount Pharan: His glory covered the heavens, and the earth is full of his praise.

—Habakkuk 3:3[53]
Since there is no connection between Jesus and Mount Paran "the Mount of Ishmael", No doubt the "holy one" in this verse is Muhammad.[54] The Coming of God from the south of Palestine is a reference to the cradle of Islam in the western coast of Arabia.

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Common sense dictates that this is talking about God Almighty and not any man.

How can you place Muhammad in the position of God as the "Holy One'' (not 'holy one' as you wrote). How can you say "His glory" covered the heaven" is referring to Muhammad, a sinner? If anybody taught you this, I think you should apply your own common sense. Do you see why I didn't answer most of your points. They amount to spiritual ignorance. You have been fed with much falsehood and only God can liberate you.

"Have you never read in the Scriptures," said Jesus, "'The Stone which the builders rejected has been made the Cornerstone: this Cornerstone came from the Lord, and is wonderful (θαυμαστὴ) in our eyes'?

This statement was made years before Muhammad was born. The word "has been made the Cornerstone" shows that it is not a future tense to refer to Muhammad whose forefather had not been born. It has happened in the time of Jesus and He (Jesus) is the Chief Cornerstone. Can you see that all the notes you are copying and pasting are nonsense? If I didn't answer you is because I don't have time for responding to ignorant talk.

"That, I tell you, is the reason why the Kingdom of God will be taken away from you, and given to a nation that will exhibit the power of it. 44 He who falls on this stone will be severely hurt; but he on whom it falls will be utterly crushed." 45 After listening to His parables the High Priests and the Pharisees perceived that He was speaking about them; 46 but though they were eager to lay hands upon Him, they were afraid of the people, for by them He was regarded as a Prophet.
—Matthew 21:33-46 (Mark 12:1-12; Luke 20:9-18)

Who was Jesus addressing in those Bible passages? It was the Pharisees and the Sadducees, the people who were in charge of Judaism. Jesus told them the government of God's people will be taken away from them and given to the Christian nation:

But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light (I Peter 2:9).
This confirms the kingdom of God taken from the Pharisees and given to the Christians, the holy nation.

The Prophet who will come from the "EAST". The Bible defined "EAST" to mean Arabia, and the lands of Kedar and Teman (Saudi Arabia today).
The Prophet who will come from "Arabia".
The Prophet who will come from the lands and "tents of Kedar" and "lands of Teman". Kedar and Teman (also called "Tema" in the Bible) are two of Ishmael's sons: Genesis 25:13-15.
The Prophet who will "crush the idols of the deserts of Kedar".
The Prophet who will "fight the idol worshipers" in the deserts of Kedar.
The people of Kedar will Glorify GOD Almighty, and GOD will Glorify His Holy Temple "in Kedar".
"Arabia will rejoice and blossom".
The Prophet who will come from the "Desert". Again, the Bible also defined the "Desert" to mean the lands of Arabia, Kedar and Teman.
The Prophet of the "New Law" & "New Covenant", whom the Jews "must not fear".
The Prophet who is "like Moses". Both Muhammad and Moses brought new Laws. There is the Law of Moses, which the entire Bible is built on, and there is the Law of the Holy Quran, which Islam is built on.
Also in the New Testament, Christ is recorded to have said this to the Jews: "So [For this reason; Therefore] I tell you that the kingdom of God will be taken away from you and given to people [a nation] who do the things God wants in his kingdom [will produce its fruit]." (Matthew 21:43). Jesus Christ here spoke about foreign people; non-Jews. Jesus was a Jew and was speaking with Jews.

All this is nonsense. This is what Genesis 25:13-15 say:


Genesis 25:13-15King James Version (KJV)

13 And these are the names of the sons of Ishmael, by their names, according to their generations: the firstborn of Ishmael, Nebajoth; and Kedar, and Adbeel, and Mibsam,

14 And Mishma, and Dumah, and Massa,

15 Hadar, and Tema, Jetur, Naphish, and Kedemah:

Where did you get the nonsensical interpretation you are giving the passage?

Friend, I may not respond to you again. I don't have the time for your ignorance and errors you have been taught. May God in His mercies deliver you from islamic claw.

EzioAuditore:
Where's the lie? I didn't say I clicked it, I didn't say i didn't know how to click a link, I just said I won't, stop trying to impress me by using an Arabic word, honestly I couldn't care less. And the Quran did say that the Jews passed on self written books as the word of God, read my previous posts for more on that and Jesus did not bring any new laws, he only consolidated on the laws of Moses, Muhammad did bring new laws, that's why Muhammad is the prophet like Moses your bible prophesied his coming. And just because they witnessed the truth, it doesn't mean they are true witnesses, people see the truth and then lie all the time but in this case, these people are not even witnesses of any sorts, Paul and his fellow compilers NEVER even saw Jesus so I don't know how they're witnesses.


As for the Shias, that's a different topic all on its own, do you even know how they came to be? Research Abdullahi Ibn Saba the Jew, he is to islam what Paul was to Christianity but only that in his case, he failed in his mission because Allah promised that he will forever protect the contents of the Quran and the Quran everywhere you go is the same and forever will be, that is Allahs promise. The Shias are just another Jewish machination, just like Christians. And the main difference between the Shias and Sunnis is not about the interpretation of the Quran, get your facts right! Short enough for your inferior mind?

No point. Smh!

Muhammad was not prophesied in the bible, stop deceiving yourself.

https://www.nairaland.com/2127594/muhammad-not-prophesied-sent-him

EzioAuditore:
You asked for a response, you got one, now you're too good to read it? You really are blind indeed. But at least you read a very important part but funny enough, I gave two biblical verses but you chose to defend one, poorly I might add.

Your defense just further confirms my claim, you admitted to jews misinterpreting the laws of God did you not? Again! You just shot yourself in the foot! Just as you misinterpreted and tampered with Gods laws, that doesn't mean they will change, for the true laws of God live on.


As for your latter claims, bring those claims to me, you can't just refer me to a dead post. Stop giving me excuses to dodge your questions.

I wonder why you don't know how to simply click a link. A primary school pulpil can do it. How did you get to this forum? The site moderator moved my thread to muslim section and you are asking me to bring it to you here. How do I do that? You must be lying to say you don't know how to click a link. That is taqqiyah you are applying.

Misinterpretation of the law in the way the Jews practiced it is not the same as changing or corrupting the law. Then if the law does not change, where is the corruption? Anybody can interpret the law to mean different things just like the lawyers do.

The Sunnis and Shia muslims interpret quran differently, do they have different quran? Does it mean either of them corrupt the quran as written? The difference is the interpretations.

Infact, your allah says the Jews did not change the content of the Jewish Scriptures as written, he says only some of them changed it with their tongue (Quran 3:78 Pickthal).

Tell me the law that was corrupted in the Old Testament and say why?

Quran says Jesus disciples were witnesses to the TRUTH (Quran 3:53 Pickthal). Tell me why true witnesses would have corrupted the New Testament.

Be as brief as possible and not rewrite the whole bible wrongly as has been your habit.

EzioAuditore:
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As Muslims, we must be very careful when we comment on the previous Scriptures, because there is always a possibility that there might be Divine Revelations parts in the verses that we might be objecting to. I know that the many of the disbelievers constantly insult and mock Islam all the time, and even lie on their own Scriptures with their "End of Times Prophecies" lies, -where they hijacked even the Bible with their bigotry, hate and lies, - but still dear brothers and sisters in Islam, we must always be very careful when we deal with previous Scriptures, because as Muslims we do believe that they do contain remnants of Divine Revelations in them. May Allah Almighty forgive me, and forgive all sincere Muslims, for any and all mistakes and errors that we may have fell into. Ameen.

If you read my previous hadiths you'd see where the prophet teaches us to accept only the parts of the current bible which do not contradict the teachings of the Quran.

Let's not overlook the fact that the bible admits to the Jews corruption. Let's see what the bible has to say about this and what the noble Quran also teaches.

"And it came to pass, when Moses had made an end of writing the words of this law in a book, until they were finished, That Moses commanded the Levites(Jews), which bare the ark of the covenant of the LORD, saying, Take this book of the law, and put it in the side of the ark of the covenant of the LORD your God, that it may be there for a witness against thee. For I know thy rebellion, and thy stiff neck: behold, while I am yet alive with you this day, ye have been rebellious against the LORD; and how much more after my death? Gather unto me all the elders of your tribes, and your officers, that I may speak these words in their ears, and call heaven and earth to record against them. For I know that after my death ye will become utterly corrupt, and turn aside from the way which I have commanded you; and evil will befall you in the latter days; because ye will do evil in the sight of the LORD, to provoke him to anger through the work of your hands. (Deuteronomy 31:25-29)" Here the Jews' hands are predicted to cause so much corruption (including corruption in the Bible). Jeremiah 8:8 below which came approximately 826 later confirmed the Bible corruption.

"How can you say we (the Jews) are wise and the law of the Lord is with us, when in fact the false pen of the scribes has made it into a lie? (Jeremiah 8:8 (Revised Standard Version))"

"And because of their (the Jews) breaking their covenant, We have cursed them and made hard their hearts. They change words from their places and have abandoned a good part of the message that was sent to them. And you will not cease to discover deceit in them, except a few of them. But forgive them and overlook (their misdeed). Verily! Allah loves the kindly. (The Noble Quran, 5:13)"

"O Messenger!(Muhammad) Do not be grieved by those who vie with one another in the race to disbelief, of such as say with their mouths: "We believe" but their hearts believe not, and of the Jews: of them are those who listen eagerly to lies -listener to others who have not come to you. They change the words from their places; they say: If you are given this then take it, but if you are not given this then beware! He whom Allah dooms unto sin, you (by your efforts) will avail him naught against Allah. Those are they for whom the will of Allah is that He cleanse not their hearts; for them there is a disgrace in this world, and in the Hereafter a great torment. (The Noble Quran, 5:41)"

For countless ages, the only book of history available to Christians and Jews was the Old Testament. When someone wanted to know what happened in the past, they would go back and study the Old Testament to find the answer. New theories about history literally lived and died by their conformance to what the Old Testament taught. Then the discrepancies began to be noticed.

Once mankind began to study the Old Testament in detail, comparing the various passages which referred to the same topic in order to obtain as much detail as possible, they began to notice conflicting accounts of many matters as well as other problems. For instance, in the eleventh century, it was noticed that the list of Edomite kings in Genesis 36 names kings who lived long after Moses was dead Then people began to notice such statements as "to this day" something is true, which implies that the author was looking back at these matters through history and has seen that they have endured.

Let's look at the lies that were more recently inserted into the bible.

1.2.2.5 1 John 5:7

The only verses in the whole Bible that explicitly ties God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit in one "Triune" being is the verse of 1 John 5:7
"For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one."

This is the type of clear, decisive, and to-the-point verse I have been asking for. However, as I would later find out, this verse is now universally recognized as being a later "insertion" of the Church and all recent versions of the Bible, such as the Revised Standard Version the New Revised Standard Version, the New American Standard Bible, the New English Bible, the Phillips Modern English Bible ...etc. have all unceremoniously expunged this verse from their pages. Why is this? The scripture translator Benjamin Wilson gives the following explanation for this action in his "Emphatic Diaglott." Mr. Wilson says:
"This text concerning the heavenly witness is not contained in any Greek manuscript which was written earlier than the fifteenth century. It is not cited by any of the ecclesiastical writers; not by any of early Latin fathers even when the subjects upon which they treated would naturally have lead them to appeal to it's authority. It is therefore evidently spurious."

Others, such as the late Dr. Herbert W. Armstrong argued that this verse was added to the Latin Vulgate edition of the Bible during the heat of the controversy between Rome, Arius, and God's people. Whatever the reason, this verse is now universally recognized as an insertion and discarded. Since the Bible contains no verses validating a "Trinity" therefore, centuries after the departure of Jesus, God chose to inspire someone to insert this verse in order to clarify the true nature of God as being a "Trinity." Notice how mankind was being inspired as to how to "clarify" the Bible centuries after the departure of Jesus (pbuh). People continued to put words in the mouths of Jesus, his disciples, and even God himself with no reservations whatsoever. They were being "inspired" (see chapter two).
If these people were being "inspired" by God, I wondered, then why did they need to put these words into other people's mouths (in our example, in the mouth of John). Why did they not just openly say "God inspired me and I will add a chapter to the Bible in my name"? Also, why did God need to wait till after the departure of Jesus to "inspire" his "true" nature? Why not let Jesus (pbuh) say it himself?
The great luminary of Western literature, Mr. Edward Gibbon, explains the reason for the discardal of this verse from the pages of the Bible with the following words:
"Of all the manuscripts now extant, above fourscore in number, some of which are more than 1200 years old, the orthodox copies of the Vatican, of the Complutensian editors, of Robert Stephens are becoming invisible; and the two manuscripts of Dublin and Berlin are unworthy to form an exception...In the eleventh and twelfth centuries, the Bibles were corrected by LanFrank, Archbishop of Canterbury, and by Nicholas, a cardinal and librarian of the Roman church, secundum Ortodoxam fidem. Notwithstanding these corrections, the passage is still wanting in twenty-five Latin manuscripts, the oldest and fairest; two qualities seldom united, except in manuscripts....The three witnesses have been established in our Greek Testaments by the prudence of Erasmus; the honest bigotry of the Complutensian editors; the typographical fraud, or error, of Robert Stephens in the placing of a crotchet and the deliberate falsehood, or strange misapprehension, of Theodore Beza."

Let's examine Paul, I mean Saul, I mean... Whatever he goes by these days you know who I mean, the man who never met Jesus Christ and even admits that he is not sure that his work is divine.

1 Corinthians 7:40 (New International Version)
40 In my judgment, she is happier if she stays as she is—and I think that I too have the Spirit of God.

1 Corinthians 7:40 (New American Standard Bible)
40 But in my opinion she is happier if she remains as she is; and I think that I also have the Spirit of God.

1 Corinthians 7:40 (Amplified Bible)
40 But in my opinion [a widow] is happier (more blessed and to be envied) if she does not remarry. And also I think I have the Spirit of God.

1 Corinthians 7:40 (New Living Translation)
40 But in my opinion it would be better for her to stay single, and I think I am giving you counsel from God’s Spirit when I say this.

1 Corinthians 7:40 (King James Version)
40 But she is happier if she so abide, after my judgment: and I think also that I have the Spirit of God.

1 Corinthians 7:40 (English Standard Version)
40 Yet in my judgment she is happier if she remains as she is. And I think that I too have the Spirit of God.

1 Corinthians 7:40 (New King James Version)
40 But she is happier if she remains as she is, according to my judgment—and I think I also have the Spirit of God.

1 Corinthians 7:40 (21st Century King James Version)
40 But she is happier if she so remain, in my judgment; and I think also that I have the Spirit of God.

1 Corinthians 7:40 (American Standard Version)
40 But she is happier if she abide as she is, after my judgment: and I think that I also have the Spirit of God.

1 Corinthians 7:40 (Young's Literal Translation)
40 and she is happier if she may so remain -- according to my judgment; and I think I also have the Spirit of God.

1 Corinthians 7:40 (Darby Translation)
40 But she is happier if she so remain, according to my judgment; but I think that *I* also have God's Spirit.

1 Corinthians 7:40 (Holman Christian Standard Bible)
40 But she is happier if she remains as she is, in my opinion. And I think that I also have the Spirit of God.

1 Corinthians 7:40 (New International Reader's Version)
40 In my opinion, she is happier if she stays single. And I also think that I am led by the Spirit of God in saying that.

1 Corinthians 7:40 (New International Version - UK)
40 In my judgment, she is happier if she stays as she is— and I think that I too have the Spirit of God.

1 Corinthians 7:40 (Today's New International Version)
40 In my judgment, she is happier if she stays as she is—and I think that I too have the Spirit of God.

As virtually more than 90% of all English translations quoted Paul saying "i think", I am confident that every his own Bible says "I think", which would really make it quite ironic. I will investigate this further, insha'Allah (if Allah Almighty is Willing).

1- For Paul to say that he "thinks" he has the Holy Spirit, he obviously wasn't even sure 100% that he had It.

2- "For instance, I don't say I THINK I am seeing my wife. No! I see my wife! She's sitting over there. You have to speak with authority and confidence, especially when you declare yourself to be a Prophet who was sent from GOD Almighty."

If I were to say that I think I see my wife, and she's only some 10-20 feet away, then this would tell you that my eye sight is poor and I would need eyeglasses. Same thing with Paul. If he wasn't even sure whether or not GOD Almighty's Spirit was in him, then we have a problem.

Now moving on to the more serious issues of Paul, I believe it is a very serious thing. Paul showed absolutely no confidence and no authority in his claims about receiving Divine Revelations. When he said "I think I have the Spirit of GOD in me," that statement virtually blew away all of his credibility as a true Prophet, because what kind of a delusional and confused person was he? And what "spirit" was really inspiring him? Or was he just having plain delusions?

Historically, we've heard of many many false Prophets that came and went. Our most recent one was David Koresh of Waco, Texas - USA, where he and his followers were burnt alive by the FBI, which in return caused for the Oklahoma City bombing by, Timothy McVeigh and his other partner who was never captured, and whom the US government calls "John Doe", to happen for vengeance against the US government. He also had delusions of him being inspired by GOD Almighty. So why should Paul be any different?

Furthermore, since the Bible's own theologians admit that its books and gospels had all been:

Written by mysterious men.
Written by an unknown number of men.
Written in unknown places.
Written in unknown dates.
then based on what objective grounds should we even consider Paul's current books to be:

All 100% his work.
Unaltered by men.
All True Divine Revelations from GOD Almighty.
I don't see that being a valid case at all. Paul clearly demonstrated his uncertainty and doubts about whether he even had the Spirit of GOD Almighty in him.

The Bible again and again is proven to be corrupt and false. Paul was also proven again and again to be a false prophet. I personally think that since liquor back then was quite harmful to the body, because it was heavily concentrated and full of bacteria and microbes, that it might've effected his head and caused him to start hearing voices and fool and mislead many with him.

Your religion is a man made delusion that possibly includes the worship of pagan gods! DO YOU ReMEMBER OuR DISCUSSION A BOUT HORUS THE ONE EYeD SUN GoD WE TALKED ABOUT WHom YOU GuYS WORSHIP INDIRECtLY? Read this please!

Narrated Ibn Umar: "Once Allah's Apostle stood amongst the people, glorified and praised Allah as He deserved and then mentioned the Dajjal (anti-Christ) saying, "l warn you against him (i.e. the Dajjal) and there was no prophet but warned his nation against him. No doubt, Noah warned his nation against him but I tell you about him something of which no prophet told his nation before me. You should know that he is one-eyed, and Allah is not one-eyed." (Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Volume 4, Book 55, Number 553)"

Who is worshipping satan here?

Who do you think would have the time for lenghty post?

You must have just graduated from an islamic school where you have been taught MISINTERPRETATIONS of the Bible.

How can you say we (the Jews) are wise and the law of the Lord is with us, when in fact the false pen of the scribes has made it into a lie? (Jeremiah 8:8 (Revised Standard Version))"

What Jeremiah was saying here is that the scribes misinterpreted the Laws of God. God's laws cannot be made a lie and God of the bible does not change his words like allah of the quran (Click the link below). Note that Jeremiah did not bring any different laws from the existing ones. The same laws laws Jeremiah and other prophets after him did observe.

Click here to see how islamic allah was corrupting his own words by changing them. He is never stable:

https://www.nairaland.com/2260353/muslims-why-did-fail-probe

mmsen:
Most religions make the same baseless claim.

They leave out the part that says that they all claim to be the sole route to their god(s).

That you don't believe there is the true God does not change His existence. You are free to believe anything you want but don't go about killing people of other faith like the muslims.

Muhammad killed thousands of Christians and also inspired muslims to do the same. To you, nothing is wrong with that and they should be left to continue, eh?

EzioAuditore:
Allah approved the real gospel sent to Jesus, not the pornographic book of confusion you call the bible today,



The Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) said: Whatever the people of the Book [Jews and Christians] tell you, do not verify them, nor falsify them, but say: We believe in Allah and His Apostle. If it is false, do not confirm it, and if it is right, do not falsify it. (Translation of Sunan Abu-Dawud, Knowledge (Kitab Al-Ilm), Book 25, Number 3637)"

If torah and injeel are not the bible, where are they?

Allah is so weak to prevent men throwing away his books.

mmsen:
Preaching any religion is a potential threat to civility and by virtue, national security.

Religion is a divisive tool meant to restrict the intellect and divert resources to those at the top of the various religious hierarchies.

Christianity is not a religion but a relationship with the true God.

malvisguy212:
can you provide a single verse in the quran where it say the bible is corrupted?

If the bible is corrupt, why did allah approve it?

https://www.nairaland.com/2263597/following-quranic-verses-true-then

dodoniyi:
Father in Heaven, deliver this pastor and put all the antichrists to shame and ridicule

Amen, as Peter was miraculously delivered from prison, so shall he be delivered in Jesus name.

Qur'an (8:39) - “And fight them
until there is no more Fitnah
(disbelief and polytheism: i.e.
worshipping others besides Allah)
and the religion (worship) will all
be for Allah Alone [in the whole
of the world ]. But if they cease
(worshipping others besides
Allah), then certainly, Allah is
All-Seer of what they do.”

Qur'an (3:83) - "Are they seeking
a religion other than Allah's,
when every soul in the heavens
and the earth has sub mitted to
Him, willingly or by
COMPULSION?" So much for the
earlier verse (2:256) stating that
there is "no compulsion in
religion".

Sahih Muslim (1:33) The
Messenger of Allah said: "I have
been commanded to fight against
people till they testify that there
is no god but Allah, that
Muhammad is the messenger of
Allah, and they establish prayer
and pay zakat." The first part of
this condition is the Shahada, or
profession of faith in Islam.
Violence is sanctioned until the
victims embrace Muhammad's
religion.

Bukhari (59:643) - "Testify that
none has the right to be
worshipped except Allah, or else I
will chop off your neck!"

ISLAM IS A RELIGION OF PEACE!

mhizpeaarl:
My hands are clean.. Anyone has the freedom to worship don't discriminate openly like DZ niccur

It's true, everyone has the freedom of worship but they should be given opportunity to hear the truth as not all religions come from the true God.

Besides, am in a possession of various audio disk where one islamic teacher twisted and destroyed the bible to confuse some ignorant Christians and successfully converted them to islam. If muslims are left unchecked in this forum, they will commit much havoc for the Devil.

A careful study of islam shows it was from the Devil and is evident from the various lies allahh told in the quran. Many of my thread on such lies are transferred to muslims section, and for lack of what to say and it could open the eyes of many innocent muslims, they quickly deleted them. Why should threads that contain questions with no word of abuse be deleted?

Go to islam section and check threads by truthman2012. Can't you understand this again? Serious!

EzioAuditore:
That's what I thought. You my friend are a coward! You have disgraced yourself and your religion.

You are not qualified to be on this forum if you cannot click a link. Or are you pretending because you can't refute your god's lies? It a shame on you if you don't know how to get to a link. Smh!

EzioAuditore:
Are you scared? Don't chicken out on me! And by now you must know I always back up my claims with evidences. If you are confident you know what you're doing, bring the questions to me.

Are you new on nairaland? Click the links and you will see them live.

EzioAuditore:
You just described an argument mate! You can't bring up such topics and say you're not looking to argue that's just dumb! Because people will always show you evidences to the contrary! As for those unanswered questions, bring them to me, you're the one seeking knowledge! Islam is clear and simple except if you choose to complicate it for yourself. Bring on the questions! I am waiting!

Bring them to you? You are funny. Go there and say what you have to say, if any? But mind you, don't go there and tell lies. You have to support your statement with quranic evidence as did I. Click on the links and it will be brought to you live.

EzioAuditore:
What lies? You can refer to youir bible and other sources and research everything I've posted here, why do I need to lie to ridicule something that ridicules itself? Whenever someone brings truth and reasoning to people, they call him a liar for indeed it is true, only those that Allahs grace falls upon them will accept the true religion. And what you christians don't seem to understand is that going by your reasoning and based on your religion, even if you're right (and clearly you're not) one can argue some muslims will go to heaven and some christians will perish in hell and to prove it, let's refer to that joke you call the bible:

"Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven."-Matthew 7:21, look it up before you accuse me of lying.

But our religion is clear! If you don't refrain from shirk (Associating Allah with partners or other deities) and accept that there is only one God, and Muhammad like Jesus was his messenger when you've been called to it, you've earned a first class ticket to hell! No two ways about it.

Although the post was not directed to you but Empiree but the truth remains that all muslims are permitted to lie as they say the end justifies the means.

Friend, when you begin to see many unanswered questions, it should put you on notice that something is wrong somewhere. Muslims are incapable of refutting the LIES of allahh. Check below the links to some important questions over which muslims are speechless. Why?

https://www.nairaland.com/2253144/islam-among-arabs


https://www.nairaland.com/2260353/muslims-why-did-fail-probe


https://www.nairaland.com/2249230/lessons-muhammads-ascension-heaven

https://www.nairaland.com/2250267/death-muhammad-end-allah-speaking

My interest is not in argument but showing muslims why I believe allahh could not be the true God because he doesn't possess the character of the true God.

Empiree:
malvisguy212 is shivering right now with counterclaims from EzioAuditore. He met his "oga at the top" . malvisguy212 dare not decipher EzioAuditore's posts. It will take him 40 days and 40 nights.

@malvis, you need "ewe orijin" to stop schivering

What nonsense are you talking here? You are parading the forum telling all sorts of lies and you aren't ashamed. You will cry, you will wail by the time you will discover islamic allahh is satan in disguise. I pity you.

@ malvisguy212

Thanks for your expositions. God bless you richly.

A book is not a miracle. Revelations are not miracles. A miracle is the healing power of God. It is God's power to liberate man from physical or spiritual trouble, like sickness, death, accidents etc. It is not demonic revelations that Muhammad received.

People who asked Muhammad for miracles in his time knew he received revelations and yet asked him for miracles. They knew revelation is not miracle and it was expected of a mighty prophet Muhammad claimed to be to have power for miracles. Alas, he had none.

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When muslims are silent on questions put to them on islam due to lack of answers , I wonder why they still continue to be muslims. Inability to provide reasonable answers to questions asked on one's faith is like being in a vehicle driven by a blind man.

Since those who claim to have knowledge of islam have failed to answer questions that have opened up islam as a deception, it is time for their followers to give their lives to Jesus who said: I am the WAY, the TRUTH and the LIFE, nobody can come unto God but by me (John 14:6).

Why would you worship a god who says something today and changes it tomorrow? That is not the attribute of the true God. The Devil is a liar. If a man is discovered to be inconsistent, he loses his integrity how much more a spirit claiming to be God.

tartar9:
what's diz nonsense doing here moderators Islam section Moderators: emusmith, OAM4J

Go and prove it to be nonsense in the muslims' section.

tartar9:
what's diz nonsense doing here moderators Islam section Moderators: emusmith, OAM4J

So, the moderators even in this section obey muslims' command. They must be muslims themselves. Na wa o!

Ephemmm:
Silence means yes: why disturbing yourself? Everybody knows how peaceful the world could have been without the word "islam".

Correct.