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If you look at the link I included you will see people say they could not get their refund and as I mentioned it is not the norm to pay to be able to apply for jobs. Don’t waste your money.

KingsJohnson:
Thanks so much for your input. I don't not know the company advertising the job, rather the said site is actually acting as a middleman between employees and employer, but I perceived some foul play because I just registered on the site today. On the hand, looking at their refund policy is also a kind of encouragement, so I'm really confused

Firstly you do not have a job offer they are asking you to pay to upgrade your a out the you can apply the job. Smell like a scam to me. Most job sites are free. If you know the company in question why not go to their site and apply directly or check if the job is advertised elsewhere.

See this site:

https://www.scamwarners.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=34&p=196160

Take it easy most of the time these stories are reported on Nairaland it’s from the perspective of the Nigerian blogger or poster.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/clown-mask-drill-rapper-gang-lekan-akinsoji-jailed-e7-a8803506.html%3famp


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/scary-clown-rapper-lekan-akinsoji-15907846.amp

https://www.lindaikejisblog.com/2019/3/nigerian-rapper-lekan-akinsoji-and-his-gang-who-waved-a-gun-at-police-during-a-car-chase-jailed-for-23-years.html

Please tell me who made reference Nigeria in these articles?

Shibaraba:
He is not a Nigerian
He is British.
He was born there ,
He grew up there

They are quick to heap blame on others but gather the accolades to themselves.
Same way them claim Anthony Joshua sharp sharp.

Take it easy, this is the BBC report and doesn't say Nigerian. The link used by this post is from a Nigerian blog or something.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-cambridgeshire-47040912

She was very silly tbh. The most she would get was points on her licence and a fine, worse case some negative media coverage for a day or two yet she lied, got her brother to lie and destroyed her political career in the process with criminal record for both her and her brother.

Pidginwhisper:
It's a criminal offence, so the tag will be "Nigerian born British", but if she's doing well representing the Britain well. She becomes British Born. Oyinbo don mad

Have they asked to be treated as demigods? From the photos they are sitting down and accepting things, they did not ask for the photos to be posted to nairaland.

Osasnidas:
They can't certainly sit on the air, this is Nigeria they should live in it the way it is, they shouldn't be treated as demigods they aren't one.

Ofcourse there are crazy people everywhere, but looking at his complexion and name he is hispanic.

nurez305:
If it was an African man, some inferior people will be abusing black as if white don't do worst thing

No, for lying about the speed ticket and claiming her brother was driving instead hence perverting the course of justice.

I don't even see the need to lie for this, worse she gets a ticket or points on her drivers licence and a fine. Now she may go to jail and has messed up her political career. She was already a whip for the labour party at 35, that's some achievement which is now down the drain.

Cigo1:
Just for a speeding ticket?

Why can't we design ours instead of waiting for the US? You are right we should not be dependent on any country if not we will always get the short end of the stick.

bantudra:
if amelika gives us to license to produce them localy,then okay....but we bth know thats not gonna happen....

i dont think its a good idea to be dependent on any nation on earth....relations can turn sour any day....

jonathans miseries should be lesson to nigeria....

the guy was desperate as hell and amelika didnt help....

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This depends on the citizenship laws for the country eg for most countries including the UK at least one of the parents must be a citizen or LPR hence if none of those apply the child will not be a citizen of the UK.

The child will take the citizenship of the parent by default.

If the baby was born in US airspace where jus Solis rules then yes the child will be a US citizen because the US grants citizenship to anyone born within it's territory.

Beautyaddy:
The child will become the citizen of the country's airspace the plane was on at the time of delivery.

At bolded not necessarily. Yes the child will be registered in the UK but that does not mean the child will be a UK citizen. The child will only be a citizen if at least one of the parent is a citizen or LPR. If none of the parents are either a citizen or LPR then the child takes the citizenship of it's parents which in our case would be Nigeria
The registration will simply state UK as country of birth but not citizenship. Being born on a plane above UK airspace does not give special priviledges over those born on the ground in the UK.

Regarding your story about NY and Massachusetts it's not possible as citizenship is a federal issue not state so there is no way the baby can be a citizen of Massachusetts or NY, the baby is a citizen of the US. There is nothing like state citizenship so you must have either heard wrong or whoever told the story was not telling the truth.

ImperialYoruba:
I agree with the writer, makes sense.
Particularly on the case of first landing of the plane after child's birth.

Let's say mother leaves Lagos for US and plane has stop over in London.
Her destination is US, not London.

If she gives birth on the Lagos-London leg. She and her baby will be taken off plane and put on emergency vehicle for transportation to hospital. She will not complete her trip to US on that plane. At the hospital, by UK law, the baby's birth must be registered right away. Because the registration is done under the seal of Her Majesty Queen of England, the child's birth records for the rest of its life takes reference in UK. The baby should be able to take UK citizenship.

The first treatment center and jurisdiction that attends to the new born's health and registration of birth is reference for citizenship.

I read something similar to this a while back. A woman lives very close the border between two states. She lives on farm in New York but she will drive two miles across border to Masachusets to buy items for her household. She went into labour in store. They called ambulance and she ended in hospital in that state and gave birth. They said because of this the child is citizen of Masachusets. Oyinbo people sometimes have one or two screws loose in their head. I cant understand how New York and Masachusets are both in America but they have divided citizenship. So the child now carries two citizenships, that of Masachusets and the one for America. I didnt argue it because I needed the screws in my head to stay intact.

That's quite a generalization isn't it? Same as saying every Nigerian is into 419...

WizAkzy:
Hahaha very funny experienceSeriously, i use to feel someway about interracial relationship until i made a deep research and found some very disturbing things. Those white people who are in relationship with blacks, do so just to achieve their disgusting fetish. The men who come to africa to pick a wife or marry any black lady, often have this thing they call "jungle festish". Its a kind of fetish where they crave to satisfy themselves with a jungle negra just like it was during the slavery era. When you get to see how these white people feel about blacks, you would be beyond shocked. Nice writing by the way�

The problem with that is when people focus on Canada then the numbers will rise exponentially which will in turn increase the public's support for doing the same thing in canada. The conservatives have already proposed it and it's already a controversial subject.

https://globalnews.ca/news/4411137/birth-tourism-canada/


Look at Canada reaction to people including Nigerians crossing the border from the US despite all their mouth. Didn't they quickly start closing the loophole and asked the US to restrict visas to Nigerians?

overlord77:
Hmmmm, if he eventually does, everyone will face Canada na, shuoo.

Well hope the conservatives don't win the next federal elections because they have also proposed ending jus soli which guarantees citizenship irrespective of parents status.


https://globalnews.ca/news/4411137/birth-tourism-canada/


The Conservative Party is calling for an end of birthright citizenship, meaning if you are born in Canada that does not automatically make you a Canadian citizen.


Currently, Canada’s law says anyone who is born on Canadian soil receives citizenship (even if your parents aren’t Canadian citizens). But this law has been highly debated, with some politicians and citizens dubbing it “birth tourism.”

overlord77:
Hmmmm, if he eventually does, everyone will face Canada na, shuoo.

If it goes ahead and theres still a long way to go, I don't think they will turn people away for coming to gove birth, it's more you can give birth but unless one of the parents is a citizen or green card holder the child will not be a US citizen. He will be a Nigerian or what relevant country's citizen based on the parents.

Same as is done in the UK Australia and not of Europe.

MamaOO:
What I meant was that, if there is no legal justification or constitutional backing as to why a CBP officer sends a woman back to her country and does so simply out of spite because she’s come to give birth, some people might/can sue and could possibly win. People sue the government here and win. You know that. Nothing is impossible in the court of law. And you I believe the CBP officers are also bound by law to be fair and just in what they do.

He already tweeted about it before the interviewer asked. This was one of his campaign promises in 2016 and he was waiting to get his pick on the supreme Court so he has a chance of getting the court to ratify the executive order.

Beautyaddy:
lol!...why are you going along with the unnecessary panic news?

He can't change the Constitution unilaterally...he needs Congress to do it.

Which is what he is aiming for so it can be taken to the supreme Court which is now a conservative majority. Of the supreme Court rules that the 14th ammendment only applies to citizens and legal permanent residents then it becomes law.

Beautyaddy:
Yes, anything that needs the Amendment of the US Constitution need 2/3 of the US congress votes.

If Trump tries to do it by executive order it will be taken to court by the immigrant advocacy groups and challenged.

Why did you ignore the bolded? All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof

The supreme court has in the past ruled on the 14th amendment but it confirmed that green card holders babies are covered and granted citizenship but never clarified for others. If the case went o court for a green card holder shouldn't we also get clarification for others especially illegals?

If you do your research the 14th amendment was passed after 13th amendment which freed slaves to ensure children of slaves were not denied citizenship. It was not passed for birth tourism or for people to just fly in and have their babies.

Yes as a Nigerian who wants my family to all go to the US I will be partial to the law staying but if I was to be unbiased and honest the law is being abused. This is the same reason most of Europe including Australia etc all changed the law so at least one parent must be a citizen or legal permanent resident for the child to be a citizen. And this is not an issue that just started with Trump, it has always been an issue but as usual congress never get to act and they all play politics.

Even Canada's conservative party has proposed ending the jus soli in Canada as well due to abuse.

https://globalnews.ca/news/4411137/birth-tourism-canada/

The Conservative Party is calling for an end of birthright citizenship, meaning if you are born in Canada that does not automatically make you a Canadian citizen.


Currently, Canada’s law says anyone who is born on Canadian soil receives citizenship (even if your parents aren’t Canadian citizens). But this law has been highly debated, with some politicians and citizens dubbing it “birth tourism.”

lillaowow:
It is right there in the CONSTITUTION

Getting the amendment interpretation reviewed using executive powers sets bad precedence for other amendments. The 2nd particularly comes into focus

You are right he cannot change the constitution without Congress, but the Supreme Court can make a law based on interpretation.

Same as DACA which was signed by Obama, the new executive order will be taken to court and Trump is hoping it is forced through to the Supreme Court which is now conservative leaning thanks to Kavanagh. If the Supreme Court rules that the 14th amendment does not cover illegal immigrants then tat becomes law and does not need congress.

Also to correct you, an amendment needs either congress or 2/3 of the 50 states not both.

The bolded will be the bone of contention for the Supreme Court. Is an illegal immigrant subject to the jurisdiction of the US government?

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.


Many other countries have changed the laws due to birth tourism abuse and we all know it is being abused:
To discourage birth tourism, Australia, France, Germany, Ireland, New Zealand, South Africa, and the United Kingdom have modified their citizenship laws at different times, granting citizenship by birth only if at least one parent is a citizen of the country or a legal permanent resident who has lived in the country for several years.

Abbeybailey:
That's reach coming from a clown who doesn't know shiiit about America and spouting garbage. You are arguing about what every 3rd grader in America knows. If anyone is a miscreant, it's you that is spouting junk . By the way, tell me where you reside in Chicago ?. I am in Oak Park now but I grew up on the North side of Chicago ( Uptown ) precisely Sheridan/ Lawrence.

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He doesn't have power to reverse it as it lies with congress. What he wants to do is by signing an executive order he will get sued and the case go all the way to the Supreme Court which now has a conservative majority.

He simply wants to force the issue so the supreme Court can inyerpeet the 14th ammendment and confirm if it covers illegal immigtants.

Personally putting feelings aside I read the ammendment and it's history and I don't think it covers illegals or people who are not citizens or legal permanent residents.

Funnicator:
So he has no power to revert the bill?

Please tell me he has no power.

Bro think of it, this has been an ongoing issue for years and if you look at the hostory of the 14th ammendment on which this is based, the objective was to ensure children of freed slaves were citizens as some states still tried to restrict them.

It has now been used as a loophole for people to fly into the US to have babies and by illegals. The UK stopped it in the 70s or 80s because of the birth tourism abuse and most of Europe Australia etc also stopped it. There's a massive industry of agebta who specialize in birth tourism especially for the Chinese.

We know Nigerians we do it as well and it also encourages illegal immigration from South and Central America as if they enter and have a child it makes it difficult to enforce laws given you can't deport the US citizen child and the parents are illegal. Also when the child is 21 he can then file for his parents and other family members.

Dralin:
Trump want to be some people's headache.wetin he go gain? I support trump but not on this trumpet that he's blowing

He doesn't have the final word even though he is right it is being abused by many.

What he is doing is by signing an executive order he hopes the government is sued so it can go all the way to the supreme Court which if you remember now has a conservative majority with Kavanaugh. It will then be up to the Supreme Court to interprete the aendment and confirm if it involves babies of illegal immigrants.

It's not that he doesn't care about the 14th ammendment, the issue at hand is does the 14th ammendment also cover people who are in the US illegally especially as it states "all persons subject to the jurisdiction of the US government." Hebisnsimoly bringing the US in line with most countries where one of the parents must be a citizen of legal permanent resident for the child to be a citizen and this will remove a major incentive for illegal immigration.

If we are being transferred honest we all know it's being abused.

Horus:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9oTF3ip_h8

Trump ending 14th Ammendment birthright

You ARE NOT a citizen of the corporation of the United states.
Trump says the 14th Ammendment means nothing to him and
if he says he has the final word on if you're a citizen or not.

We can be as angry as we want or claim racism etc but the fact remains until we fix our country and get it to a point where there is more reason for Nigerians to want to to stay than leave we will continue to be viewed with suspicion. Couple that will lots of Nigerians abusing visas all over the place. We share a lot of blame.

Hopefully the OP is able to reapply and prove he is genuine.

naijacann:
This is so ridiculous. Racism at its worst! The guys at the embassy are so uncomfortable with a black person getting funding from Australia for doctoral study. I have never been this angry and disappointed at an embassy....its an obvious case of racism and discrimination.
They wouldn't refuse an American or any other white person visa based on such ridiculous reasons.
I wish I knew the schools, I would have applied from here in Canada(I'm a Canadian citizen of Nigerian descent), get the admission and funding, and of course easy study visa, and then I will decline the visa after issuance, with a strongly worded letter to the Australian immigration here, in solid solidarity with the OP.
So sick of these embassies.

Hahaha so funny.

Don't worry Chicago has signed up Musk's company to build a hyperloop from the airport. Let's see how that plays out.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-06-14/how-musk-s-hyperloop-became-just-a-loop-in-chicago-quicktake

Yambee:
This looks like a glorified coffin.

Let them use it for a couple of years, and if it does not kill them like a bunch of flies,then can then start selling it to Africans.

The last time they gave us something like this,they called it Peugeot J5. We are yet to fully get the statistics of how many Nigerians that flying coffin called J5 killed.

Not really, he is actually considered quite arrogant and the backlash is because people think he is playing to the camera due to his recent low ratings in the polls. There have been many issues over the past few months.

Lipscomb:
But why people always complain about something that don't have meaning? This president is a humble man who don't see himself as a authority over anyone. But if he start doing anyhow now they will still saying the president is arrogant.

Haha I know what you mean. Don't let it bother you, necessary distraction.

Who knows maybe they would have paid for your ticket

pretty16:
Thanks ttmacoy. Yes Indeed. Thank God. But it's our naija ppl and their matter that baffles me.
Ppl vexing, that I did not tell them I was travelling. Really? Even the ones wey no know say I dey exist before come dey vex. I should be going round and be announcing to the whole world that I am travelling out ooo. Like as of telling them would have made any difference, or payed for my flight ticket? Human beings are funny. Especially our African peeps.

looooooooooool

While I agree it's not information that should be shared but stop all the its because he is black talk please. Journalists are know to do anything for a story. Do you know how many times journalists have used long range cameras to take photos of cabinet minister's notes as they come out of Downing street in London? Same in US and other countries.

Araoluwa005:
journalist is very stupid. he did that because the minister is black