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SiestaFiesta:
No, it doesn't.

""Be subject for the Lord's sake to every human institution, whether it be to the emperor as supreme, or to governors as sent by him to punish those who do evil and to praise those who do good."

TV01:
I already told you, I am non-partisan and don't really care who rules politically. But that doesn't mean I willfully break duly constituted laws or refuse to recognise whoever is elected.

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SiestaFiesta:


So there is mention of politics in the Bible after all?

And Christians all over the world have for centuries been seeking political power?

And we do have Christian Democratic Parties all over Europe?



You are quite delusional. You should see a doctor.

Now hit the ban button again.



Take down the picture. It makes me wanna puke.

And the bible mentioning politics means it prescribes politics?
And some people who are, or who claim to be christians chasing political power makes it biblically correct?

I'm spamming you with marital bliss. Choke
And needless to say, I had nothing to do with your ban. What did you write? Abeg, retype. I quite enjoy you exposing your ignorance upandan


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SiestaFiesta:
"Religion played a key role in Angela Merkel's migration to East Germany. Her father was born a Catholic, but the Kasner family eventually converted to Lutheranism,[24] and he studied Lutheran theology in Heidelberg and afterwards in Hamburg. In 1954, Angela's father received a pastorate at the church in Quitzow (a quarter of Perleberg in Brandenburg), which was then in East Germany, and so the family moved to Templin. Merkel thus grew up in the countryside 80 km (50 mi) north of East Berlin."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angela_Merkel#Early_life_and_education



Merkel is a Christian and her father was a pastor.


"The CDU applying the principles of Christian democracy and emphasising the "Christian understanding of humans and their responsibility toward God."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_Democratic_Union_of_Germany#Party_platform

Yawn! Which laws based on Biblical doctrine has Angela Merkel and/or the CDU enacted?


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I always advise you to steer well clear of the bible. Your lumpen-handed use is quite painful to behold. All it does is expose how intellectually bereft you really are. Anyway, I'm in a charitable mood

SiestaFiesta:
TV01

Deuteronomy 17:14-15

“When you come to the land that the Lord your God is giving you, and you possess it and dwell in it and then say, ‘I will set a king over me, like all the nations that are around me,’ you may indeed set a king over you whom the Lord your God will choose. One from among your brothers you shall set as king over you. You may not put a foreigner over you, who is not your brother."

A monarchy is not a political system, is it?

And the OT is prescriptive for Christians?
And even the OT reveals that Gods will was to be among them with no need for political leaders.
The scenario above was God permitting them in their weakness. It will not be so in the fullness .
And in politics, God chooses the leader abi

SiestaFiesta:
1 Peter 2:13-17

"Be subject for the Lord's sake to every human institution, whether it be to the emperor as supreme, or to governors as sent by him to punish those who do evil and to praise those who do good. For this is the will of God, that by doing good you should put to silence the ignorance of foolish people. Live as people who are free, not using your freedom as a cover-up for evil, but living as servants of God. Honor everyone. Love the brotherhood. Fear God. Honor the emperor."

No politics in the Christian Bible?

Do you even know what politics are?

So because the bible mentions politics, it is prescribing politics? And war, and polygamy, and animal sacrifice Please, stop embarrassing yourself.

I already told you, I am non-partisan and don't really care who rules politically. But that doesn't mean I willfully break duly constituted laws or refuse to recognise whoever is elected.

You are making this tedious. Make I go park, go flex


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SiestaFiesta:
So Christians do seek political power and have been seeking earthly kingdoms after all?

Is Angela Merkel a christian? And earthly kingdoms are given by? Whatever you think of your own intellect, you can never see more than the purely physical at best.

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Matthew 4:8-9: Again, the devil took Him up on an exceedingly high mountain, and showed Him all the kingdoms of the world and their glory. And he said to Him, “All these things I will give You if You will fall down and worship me.

Luke 4:5-7 (is the comparative passage):5 Then the devil, taking Him up on a high mountain, showed Him[d] all the kingdoms of the world in a moment of time. And the devil said to Him, “All this authority I will give You, and their glory; for this has been delivered to me, and I give it to whomever I wish. Therefore, if You will worship before me, all will be Yours.”

SiestaFiesta:
The funniest statement ever coming from someone who is a self-proclaimed expert of Christianity and who pretends that he understands politics.

Christian Democratic Parties:


Greece: The Christian Democratic Party of the Overthrow (Greek: Χριστιανοδημοκρατικό Κόμμα Ανατροπής)
Italy: Christian Democracy (Italian: Democrazia Cristiana, DC)
Austria: The Austrian People's Party (German: Österreichische Volkspartei, ÖVP)
Sweden: The Christian Democrats (Swedish: Kristdemokraterna, KD)
Portugal: The CDS – People's Party (Portuguese: CDS – Partido Popular, derived from Centro Democrático e Social – Partido Popular, CDS-PP)
Netherlands: The Christian Democratic Appeal (Dutch: Christen-Democratisch Appèl)


And the best at the end:

Germany, Angela Merkel's party

The Christian Democratic Union of Germany (German: Christlich Demokratische Union Deutschlands, CDU)


Ban me, I will come back and post it over and over again. I have copied and pasted it. It's just a few clicks.

Incorporating Christianity into a title is something anyone can do. Britney Spears and Beyonce all portrayed themselves as "Christian" at the beginning of their careers. There are even self-styled "christian porn" and christian swingers clubs"

Politically these entities would have been attempting to appeal to the historical "Christian values" of the country, not necessarily the "Christian faith". They would not have campaigned to introduce Christian doctrine as law.

- Which biblical principles are any of these parties committed to passing into law?
- Which biblical principles have they made into laws?

Is Angela Merkel of the CDU a practicing Christian? Was OBJ a self-proclaimed Christian, Christian in his rule of Nigeria?

I repeat, there is no scriptural writ for Christians to chase after political power or control in the world today. If you truly understand the scriptures you will appreciate that even if they "seemingly" successfully do so, it avails them (as Christians), nor the Kingdom of heaven anything.

Christianity is not in the labeling. Happy to provide further scriptural insight .


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Mindfulness:

Response so dumb the spambot rejected it !

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5minsmadness:
Cc crackhaus, tv01. Me, I'm on sabbatical. And where the hell is pickabeau1? Hope he's still up and running?

I need a stiff drink.


Op sorry, the answer I have for u does not tally with my religious beliefs so I have nothing to say.

Sup' Sir? Tricky one huh?

The person described in the OP seemingly has a number of issues;

1. A bad character,including lying, deceit, nagging and unforgiving
2. A spousal abuser, who is suspicious and has questionable self-worth
3. Stark religious difference
4. He is also piss-poor

The couple is also living apart. Even if he had super-swimmers, becoming pregnant would still require a miracle of sorts. Sort out all the underlying personal issues, and then, or at once get help for the relatively minor health problems.

To restore this union you need to re-set the foundations. You'll need a sincere and committed heart and everything at your disposal - personal qualities, family and faith. I sincerely hope you have the God of the Bible as your Buckler. All the very best.

Wannaweds, if you have any understanding, you'll go into courtship with high expectations and a clear vision, then ensure you are there, or very close ahead of marriage. Anything less is to court disaster If you are really smart you'll go with God.

Marriage is best avoided by mis-informed people,ill-informed minds or de-formed characters.

So sad.


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Mindfulness:
And you want us to believe that you were educated in Europe?

In part . Globally educated, student of life, versed in the scriptures

Mindfulness:
The terror in Irland wasn't political.

You are confused. Yes there was a sectarian divide, but the troubles were not about religion or desire to impose bible-based political ideals.

Mindfulness:
The Crusades were not about Christians seeking political power.

Nope. The crusades were a defensive reaction to Islamic aggression There was no plan, or desire, to make the land, or the people Christians, just to protect Christian pilgrims and passage.

Typical recourse of blind ideologues. People are being slaughtered in the streets right now by Jihadists, but lets mention the crusades from almost a 1'000 years ago as a diversionary tactic. Incredibly lame . What is the root cause of the current problem, what is the solution? According to your idol AM, it's open arms and coquettish selfies

Mindfulness:
Preaching that divorce laws should be done on the basis of the Bible is not about political power.

Doubly wrong; firstly, the bible does not sanction divorce of consummated marriages, secondly, I preach what the scriptures say about divorce for Christians, and thirdly, a religiously informed position is just as valid as an ideological based one in the public square, and subject to scrutiny.

Mindfulness:
Hit the library!

You should hit the people who keep re-inforcing the impression that you have the minutest of clues. Have you no friends?

Do you have a coherent response for Timbuktou, or are you going to scurry off looking for more diversionary ploys and ad hominem


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Timbuktou:
Mindfulness, how far? What's going on in Germany? Enlighten us backward folk.

RIP to the fallen - and I say fallen because it's - even to the ideologically confused - starting to look like the war it really is.

According to Mindfulness, what's going on is this;

Mindfulness:
is not able to come to terms with development and progress.

Mindfulness:
The goal is to make THE WORLD safer as a whole since it has shrunk as a result of the globalization processes and eras.

Mindfulness:
I have a vision of a world without borders where everyone can move freely. I hope I will come to see it before I die. One world, one human race!

But I doubt she'll be back to respond; she's busy on the "Mindfulness NL Geo-political World Tour" . Updating people on world events and charting status on the path to utopia - yet can't fathom what's going on right under her nose .

I repeat people without a sound grasp of history, understanding of cultural heritage, real breathing stake in the future, and a scrotum , should not be allowed anywhere near the reigns of power in an existential crises. This is one.

Does anyone have the songsheet to Kumbaya?


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Mindfulness:
All this for me?

Who are you trying to convince? Me or yourself? Either way, you failed.


TV, how painful is it that a 'barren woman' has more power than you will ever have?

Pained invective didn't work, nor will your bogus humour . Or unthinking assertions. Christians do not seek political power or earthly kingdoms.

And my procreative power is still intact - do any of you 3 have one the power to create anything so beautiful?


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shaybebaby:
Whatever helps you sleep at night.

Don't hang about, do it now

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^{...although you won't be able to hide your black identity with that thick accent}

zimunachimdi:
are you saying people are born gay?

misspicy:
please answer it,are people born gay

jnrbayano:
Nne, I stoutly disagree with "being born gay"
How is this possible?

Don't hold your breath waiting for answers. She just sells the ideology. She doesn't really understand it, can't explain it, or, deep down, truly believe it. All na "to appear" .

@OP timely message. Children will always be key for this evil campaign. Nurture plays a pivotal role in "sodomy". Guard the hearts of the lil' ones.

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crackhaus:
You don't know the meaning of the word, not to mention the right context to use it.

Abi . You know he's just throwing words in to impress the tingle seekers. I'm leaving this punk to you, lest I hurt him .

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shaybebaby:
Nigerian men and always looking for people to own like handbags.

Hush your mouth. If owning was indeed the aim, who would want you

shaybebaby:
That's why more and more black sisters are widening their dating pool. What I don't get is why you keep getting a headache over other people's choices?

Quiet. Brothas have been taking their pick of females from wherever since whenever . Simple truth is, black men are higher up the hierarchy than black women. No one denies you your choice, but denigrating those that patently did not choose you by way of validation, merely portrays your own utter lack of self-worth.

shaybebaby:
In real life, I would avoid you if I came across you because we are chalk and cheese. Your views are yours, own them but please don't try to dictate my choices, na your life?

Who on earth is dictating your life choices. Better have a 1-on-1 with your conscience . I merely postulate my personal positions. No one is compelled to buy or even consider, plus challenge is more than welcome . And we no fit jam, I don't run in the poorer parts of East London

shaybebaby:
If you chose someone who is happy to exchange her brain for a marriage certificate, good for the both of you.

Choking on green-eyed Jelosi. Let me rev it up for you!

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Mindfulness:
The leaders of countries with the strongest economies in the world - enough investment.

Really? You are so basic in your thinking and shallow in understanding. They are political leaders - it's just a job. And one that is given to fortuitous events. And, how they actually perform, and their judgement in the light of history is the true test, not merely holding office.

Secondly, and as I said earlier,in times of relative peace, bingo the wonder dog could occupy the seat of power in a typical Western nation. It's in times of crises that discerning and bold leadership is required. And what does Merkel do? Open arms to the inimical and murderous culture that could see the end of Germany - and greater Europe - as we know it.

And they have no future stake. Not only are they childless, they are doing nothing to protect and promulgate what they received from their forefathers.

Mindfulness:
There is no guarantee kids will want to stay around a bitter, insecure, control-freak of a father who repeats himself like a broken record and is not able to come to terms with development and progress.

As ever, your failure to present anything telling results in ad hominem. And next day you'll be bleating about having courteous conversations in here

And there is a greater guarantee that my kids will remain faithful to what I hand down to them because; 1. I will train them thoroughly in their faith traditions and cultural heritage 2. they are my kids, not some I stole along with their daddy, 3. I won't abandon them or their mother. They are being raised in a loving intact biological family within a wider network of strong kinship relationships.

Boo yah!


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^{...old bird on heat}

shaybebaby:
1) not being British born doesn't mean you cannot be British. Stop letting your insecurities cloud your understanding.

Born, bred and buttered on this beautiful Isle . And it's your insecurities that are on full display - validating yourself by rejecting black .

shaybebaby:
2) any one who is in an interracial relationship exercises their choice, what's my business who anyone decides to get with? You should learn to keep your nose out of things that ain't your business.

And I've been in "interracial" relationships as you term them. But I don't see one "race" as superior or try and sell them as better. That is truly colour-blind. Colour - white - is actually the fundamental basis of your choices.

shaybebaby:
3) Biological shmiologimental, you really should unclench your butt, life is much more beautiful when you allow some love and give love to everyone you come into contact with. I love all children, biological or not and hate to see anyone in pain. But...again, your stance limits the spreading of your hate to those within your immediate sphere, I cannot complain, there is some small comfort to be derived from that.

Be quiet, having a different moral stance is not hate, having a different opinion is not a crime. And like you co-jihadist, in lieu of a strong case, you want to use the power of the law to quieten any dissent. Shaybebaby ko, crybaby ni

shaybebaby:
4) I don't need to go to a police station, I can do it online and point them here to your handle.

You are a real bore,you know that

shaybebaby:
5) I have posted my baby's picture before when I felt like sharing and I won't do it now because I have nothing to prove. He is better looking and a better man than you would ever be, I know this and that is all that counts.

Yes na, 10x better looking, and 10 times the man. Only, he's not yours is he? That's the whole point, with no commitment, he can be in the next bed tomorrow. And mark my words, he marrying Maria from back home, not you "Folake" !

shaybebaby:
Wouldn't dream of buttering you up, applying butter on sh1t still wouldn't make it edible.
No, they are children, their own persons and beautiful as they are.

Be as pious as you like - e pain am


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...unfiancé him...sharply!

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shaybebaby:
Such gorg innocent cuties.. Shame about their father.

Thank you. But quit trying to butter me up. Post and let's see what the noise is about - or forever hold your peace

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shaybebaby:
Loooooool! And then posts pictures of himself with ishan like that of the agberos at idumota!
Followed by a sly dig at my partner, threatened much when I have never and will never cast aspersions on yours, don't have to..her treasure, my nightmare (trash)but each to their own, we don't all want the same things. I'm secure in that knowledge but you?
Laughing my head off.

Ps: you are NOT British born...stop lying.. Your utterances give you away.

Be quiet

Run to your nearest police station. Tell them about my crimes;
- having an intact biological family...in this day and age? - please break them up so they can be like mine
- espousing moral values and taking vows seriously - surely punishable by stoning

Until I post FP/BP of my passport abi? Illegal, married for papers benefits sponger. Oya, I don post, lets see the pix of this Eytie you won't let us hear word about.

Liar and hypocrite. If it was a black guy raving about white women y'all would scream self-esteem issues. What's your defence? Claiming love has no colour, but only being able to see white. Coconut .

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Mindfulness:
https://i.ndtvimg.com/i/2016-07/angela-and-may_650x400_71468375033.jpg

Two aged and barren women. No skin in the game, no investment in the future. Check out the future - our generations !

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shaybebaby:
But you can be locked up because you are a menace to the free society you live in, you do NOT deserve to enjoy the civil rights you neither contributed to not appreciate.

I'm a menace to purveyors of wanton permissiveness licentiousness such as yourself - GDT

shaybebaby:
You are NOT British born so you citizenship can always be revoked ( that is if you are one) and that will be a just outcome.
Or better still, do the honourable thing and remove yourself to whence you came from since you hate the ways of the west so much.

Unlike you and your "under-lorry, by-boat, across desert, people smuggled" buddy , I was born here - 100% omo onile . My ways are the ways of the West. Some just appear to have forgotten what made us great.

shaybebaby:
Nigerians be running stuff down with their mouth, yet refuse to give it up. Said it once, I'm saying it again, put your money where your mouth is and show your minions that you are uncompromising in your fanaticism. But not going to happen is it, hate preachers be running down the country but at the same time collecting state benefits.

Never held a Nigerian passport. UK of GB & I for life

Tell the police this is who they are looking for. Apologies in advance for putting you off your greasy, poor-muscles-tone, spaghetti suckers


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Mindfulness:
Why don't you write it down on a piece of paper, put it in an envelope and send it to Theresa May, YOUR childless PRIME MINISTER.

I hope she will deport you to Afghanistan, where you belong.

Per below in bold, which I pointed out earlier
And again below that, I don't care who they elect or even what they stand for

And one thing is for sure, Theresa May cannot have me deported anywhere, unlike you, I am not a "by boat migrant" . And unlike Theresa May, my generations shall inhabit this land until the Lord returns .

TV01:
I'm not bragging by the way, we just got Theresa May

You see the politics of it all is actually relatively unimportant to me. No, I don't vote in parliamentary elections, or even care who my local MEP is. I am not partisan, as none of them do His will or work to see His Kingdom come.

shaybebaby:
Wish I knew his real handle, it's not just Asians that have hate preachers. There is one here and I wish he had the guts to reveal himself in real life so I can direct the authorities to him for inciting homophobia, sexism, religious fanaticism, hatred of his adopted country, xenophobia, racism.. I could go on.Not going to happen though, the things with peeps like this is that they are cowards in real life

Mindfulness:
You just need to give the authorities a hint and his anti-constitutional remarks will be under surveillance - in fact his every move will.
There is a thick line between freedom of speech and the violation of a country's inalienable rights.

GDT' gathered together - I'm quaking in my boots. A motley crew of baby mamas, adulteresses, divorcees and "partners" . If you formed a band, we'd have to call it the "Stigmatics". Booming like darkenedrebel' piss-stained & skid marked boxers

Psalm 2: 1-5 for you. Read the KJV for an extra strength tension headache


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Mindfulness:
What conscience?

You have rightly said . But conscience or none, we will all answer.

Mindfulness:
No, it's geopolitics.

Call it what you will. Geopolitics, ideology, culture, religion, philosophy, lifestyle whatever. None of these are capable of changing the hearts of men. Black and white have lived side by side in the US for centuries. Ostensibly there is liberty for all, yet things are getting worse not better.

Whatever the way of man, it fails. Is Tribalism getting any better in your homelands? Is partisan politics doing the trick? The liberal left and the conservative right are engaged in culture wars wherever they appear. Now even male and female relationships are being toxified - and in a generic way, that ultimately harms individual families. What you have up their is a pipe dream - best smoke it

Mindfulness:
And to me, you are not much different from these Jihadists. You would also force people to do something they do not want to in the name of religion if you could.

Nice try. Archetypal with your ilk. Slander and smear tactics . I preach a gospel, it is for you to accept or reject it. Gods grace that you would, but that's in no way down to me.

And in actualising your utopia, would you not of a necessity have to force people who would prefer to be insular or parochial to remove borders, or open themselves up to what they consider alien and undesirable influences? Exactly what Merkel is doing in Deutscheland. Here is a quote from Hillary Rodham Clinton;

“Far too many women are denied access to reproductive health care and safe childbirth, and laws don’t count for much if they’re not enforced. Rights have to exist in practice — not just on paper,” Clinton said.

“Laws have to be backed up with resources and political will,” she explained. “And deep-seated cultural codes, religious beliefs and structural biases have to be changed. As I have said and as I believe, the advancement of the full participation of women and girls in every aspect of their societies is the great unfinished business of the 21st century and not just for women but for everyone — and not just in far away countries but right here in the United States.”

Effectively using the law and government agencies to remove difference in cultures, beliefs and practice to effectuate her ideology. How is that different from Jihad?

Or even your e-buddy shaybebaby, who wanted me locked up because I considered married opposite-sexed 2 parent homes to be the best for children ? People with understanding will see beyond your deceitful rhetoric.

I'm sure you've heard the news just in from Nice. RIP to the dead and condolences to their families. How close does your utopia sound now? Not if you live to be a 1'000 years old. Please don't bother posting names and citizenship of the perpetrators.


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Father.
In lieu of a father, chief men from the paternal line.
In lieu of men from the paternal line. Chief men from the maternal line.
In lieu of chief men from the maternal line...wait, who on earth marries a woman without recourse to the male hierarchy in her family?

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Mindfulness:
Save your religious doctrines to those who care to listen to this kind of nonsense.

Conscience dey pepper you abi? It barely touched on religion.

Mindfulness:
I have a vision of a world without borders where everyone can move freely. I hope I will come to see it before I die. One world, one human race!

And this is not religion? Na to sing "kumbaya" remain !

Please let us know how this "moving freely" goes with your Jihadi Fanatics. And if they enjoy the sing-a-long . The delusion is strong .


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Mindfulness:
So you were talking about the countries who can meet all of the criteria above? How many are they?

No. Only pointing out that their extremely wealthy near kith and kin have for strategic reasons of their own, refused to adhere to the GC they are also signed up to. Worth pointing out, and perhaps scrutinising, no?

Mindfulness:
And if they don't, we can neglect the historic accomplishment of a self-given promise to protect those in dire need?

There goes your blinkered hive mind again. Charity is always laudable, but at the potential cost of destroying that very thing upon which prosperity and the ability to give is based? More later.

Mindfulness:
And you want to teach others Christian values and tell others that they lost credibility - as if they care?

You keep drifting, but happy to segue from politics to faith. More later.

Mindfulness:
Jesus wept!

The shortest verse on the Bible. Please set it in context. More later, blasphemer!

Mindfulness:
Innocent until proven guilty.

Make that "ignorant & guilty"

Mindfulness:
Only people who take NL seriously can say something like that.

You are such a phony - weren't you the one wailing like a banshee when this discussion took a turn towards the EU project .


On a more serious note. I said something earlier about Europe's big problem being the plummeting fertility rate. I take that back - in a sense. In trying to be focused on the political specifics, I left out what I see to be the bigger issue.

Europe's real problem is that they forgot about God, without Whom there can be no real morality, and as a consequence strong families. Hence the falling birthrate, which is a symptom of this bigger issue.

The other symptom is the rise of what we'll call Jihadist fundamentalism - lest you go into meltdown . Indeed, JF has always been with us, but strong Christian nations, or at least strong nations with intact Judeo-Christian (or other) heritages, had a natural bulwark against them.

Now, with the loss of those JC roots - at least in any meaningful way - the double whammy, falling fertility and JF is actually doubled down, as they are forced to compensate for the FF with people from the wider JF pool. Ironic huh? Gods judgement is so sure. And yes, there will be weeping.

That is why strong nations with robust cultural heritages and traditions are important (in the EU's case JC). It's why the hive mind, based around what are at best tertiary imperatives like inclusion and diversity, are doomed to fail. So yes, your utopian vision of a world without borders and full inclusion will come, and exceedingly more, but only with Christ at his coming.

Men can't of themselves actualise this, as there can never be universal shared values. At best we can have certain communities, societies, ethnicities or nations with differing degrees of rapprochement. Unions above a certain size - like the Tower of Babel project - will always fail. Not least because some will always seek to subsume or silence others of different persuasion.

On another note, it's why women, and especially childless ones,must never lead nations in a time of crises. When everything is going well, no real problem. In mature countries the infrastructure is in place, and in prosperous times, little can go wrong. National leadership isn't even that important, and more symbolic - Even sef, lassie the wonder dog could make a decent fist of it

But in times of crises, not so. It's why Merkel' fumble is colossal. She went with her hive mind indoctrinated feelings of fulfilling her "mutter" role (which she didn't in real life), and with the same utopia you delusionally espouse. And probably marked a new era in the descent of the West.

No man, man with a family, or even understanding woman with children would ever spit in the eye of their own cultural roots in that manner. I'm not bragging by the way, we just got Theresa May

You see the politics of it all is actually relatively unimportant to me. No, I don't vote in parliamentary elections, or even care who my local MEP is. I am not partisan, as none of them do His will or work to see His Kingdom come. Both main parties here were "for gay marriage". How can a christian champion either. I only voted in the referendum as it was a national, not partisan issue.

Hope you enjoyed lesson in Bible eschatolgy, culture & heritage and world affairs. Of course, if you have Christ, there'll be no tears, and all will be revealed in the light. Tick, tock


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snowytee:
Hello Folks,Am engaged to this angel and we are planning our wedding but certain issues bother me.

Am not one to spend hugely on a one day event but my Jewel expects abi wants a talk of the town event. A while back, I asked her how much

i should budget for the event and she said 2milli.

Believe it or not, this issue - if you indeed go ahead to marry this woman - and it's resolution, will set the tone for your whole marriage, as long as it lasts. Fall mugu at this point and you are all but done. Enough said.

All the best
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Mindfulness:
You didn't even know that Turkey is the country with the highest number of Syrian refugees and you are still acting like you can discuss anything else other than marriage and feminism.

You are so bogus - of course I knew that. I was referring to the rich gulf states, as evidenced here;

TV01:
And the Muslim countries of the middle-east who are also signatories to the GC have not managed to take a combined total of 1 refugee between them. Despite their stupendous wealth, geographical proximity, ethnic relatedness and shared religion. And you are here shouting bigot at lil' ole UK

Which middle-east countries count as stupendously wealthy? Lebanon , or Jordan - even Turkey if you count it ?

Mindfulness:
Turkey: More than 2,5 million refugees from Syria
Lebanon: 1,5 million refugees from Syria
Jordan: More than half a million refugees
Saudi Arabia: Nearly half a million refugees
And the list goes on and on. It's astonishing how people will ignore FACTS in the GOOGLE AGE.

Yet you posted a blatant lie, not an exaggeration or mis-quote, a steely-eyed lie. Ah, godless people no dey fear 0!!

Mindfulness - "Committed to combating ignorance with lies and deceit". Are you due a new moniker? This one has lost all credibility


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Mindfulness:
Quote your source instead providing me with your links. I won't click them. Were they also taken from a website designed by Christian fundamentalists as always?

Caught red-handed . You plucked 500'000 for Saudi Arabia out of thin air - and you are asking me to quote sources . The link is to the Canadian immigration service - one of the most liberal left-leaning governments ever, or, a right-wing christian fundamentalist country if they don't corroborate Mindlessness' lies - I laff tire .

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Mindfulness:
Turkey: More than 2,5 million refugees from Syria
Lebanon: 1,5 million refugees from Syria
Jordan: More than half a million refugees
Saudi Arabia: Nearly half a million refugees

Carefreewannabe aka Mindfulness you can lie...........specifically the rich arab nations of the gulf;
http://www.immigration.ca/en/quebecimmigration-topmenu/187-canada-immigration-news-articles/2015/september/1992-countries-for-syrian-refugees.html

QATAR, the UNITED ARAB EMIRATES and SAUDI ARABIA are increasingly criticized by rights organizations, which say the wealthy Persian Gulf countries have not offered to take in a single Syrian refugee. However, these nations have contributed to humanitarian aid.

Turkey is just warehousing and processing them for onward travel to the EU proper - which Turkey will actually be joining shortly . Good luck with that. Soon to be renamed the EU Caliphate .


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Mindfulness:
Germany did what European countries are obliged to do. There is something called Geneva Convention which clearly states that HUMANS are to be granted asylum under certain circumstances but since people ignorantly believe that immigrants are taking their jobs, they voted for Brexit.

And the Muslim countries of the middle-east who are also signatories to the GC have not managed to take a combined total of 1 refugee between them. Despite their stupendous wealth, geographical proximity, ethnic relatedness and shared religion. And you are here shouting bigot at lil' ole UK

Mindfulness:
Now Germany can relax agian. Britain is an agining society with low birth rates as well. Let us watch the decline now.

And let us watch how Frankfurt will flourish as Europe's new finacial centre.

So Britain being in the EU stopped Frankfurt flourishing. Shouldn't you be happy that we are out?

Mindfulness:
The suicide bombers from France:

Fabien Clain - of French nationality
Abdelhamid Abaaoud - Belgian-Moroccan born in Belgium
Salah Abdeslam - Belgian-born French national of Moroccan descent


All of the known perpetrators were EU citizens and not refugees but even if they were, you simply don't condemn a whole nation for what a few did. Who was calling me ignoramus again?

London attacks:

Mohammad Sidique Khan - born in England
Shehzad Tanweer born in England
Germaine Maurice Lindsay - born in Jamaica
Hasib Mir Hussain - born in England

Such bug-eyed blindness and pathalogical denial. So the terrorist atrocities are best disseminated based on citizenship or race . The lengths some people go to not mention the religion whose name they dare not speak. Not even when they subjugate you and make you a forced sex slave . Actually, I take that back. I've seen your pic, you won't make the cut


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