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Bollinger:No, I am not high, and even if I were, with time I would come down . I did not post based on my sex, but on the clear reading of scripture. Does time do anything for a slopey forehead?TV |
repogirl:I said nothing - simply presented a reading of scripture. Whatever any pastor - or their spouse - of any name,standing or repute amongst men does, that does not change the scriptural writ. If you have a different reading or interpretation, feel free to present it - with reasons. And, should anyone prefer to predicate their Christian walk on the life of "pastors or their spouses", again, they are free to do so. My position remains as is, unless anyone can show otherwise. TV |
teemy:...agreed, but we are not fighting ...although I guess OP and his missus were. Best. TV |
mazazatonda:No & no. Impress upon her how much it means to you, and how you would love to share the act with her - likewise learn what pleases her (and if there are reasons for any hang-ups). Continue to be a great husband, with time, hopefully. If not, continue to be a great husband . I'm serious 0!TV ...what a user name ![]() |
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missjo: missjo:You are a plain-faced, brown-nosing dullard, who offers little more than nuisance value! Do have a pleasant evening TV ...I learn fast and l like this game ![]() |
teemy:...a very generous interpretation at best . The analogy is also somewhat skewed. A better one would be; Two friends in a car. The driver is being really reckless and his friend says "if you keep driving this way, you could get us killed". A warning, a note of caution, an alarm. Not a threat, as the possible outcome is not what he - and neither his friend, one would suppose - actually desires. TV |
Coco, whats up? No where did he threaten to end his marriage, he merely - and rightly so - pointed out how it could end if they did not fix up. He did exactly the right thing, by having an honest state of the nation" talk with his wife. Haba, are we all so jaundiced now ![]() cococandy: teemy:No he did not. Cordis92:He didn't threaten anything. TV |
Me & Mrs Jones ...An honest sounding - almost heart on shirtsleeve type post - great start. The little back story you've provided sounds somewhat odd. A late 20's - still relatively young - couple, one raised in the West and the other in Nigeria. That's serious culture clashing right there; no matter how Africanised your upbringing was or butterish hers. It also begs tons of questions, from your basic maturity, to your inherent compatibility, along with quite a few others actually. So for example, your thinking she should "go home for a few months", are you sponsoring her stay? How much a part of the "bargain" is that? How do you think that would help? Sounds like a relatively short - or long distance - courtship, where everything went swimmingly, then straight after the wedding, gbam, a kaleidoscope of true colours .This basically boils down to two things, how committed you are to making this work and your wife' real motive. If you are both committed regardless, but simply "acting up" it will probably hold, even if not very lovingly for a time. If she indeed had an undisclosed agenda which involves ditching you at some point, you need God - not one of his lower ranking serfs - to intervene . In any event, a deep faith - if you possess it - can only help!If it's the former, simply take a long-term view. Be the leader of your home, demonstrate maturity, sensitivity and the committed husband like qualities that will, over time, bring her to a place of respecting you, your union, and being secure in it. Model exactly what you would like her to reciprocate. But do not pander or fawn over her. Do not be be swayed by, or respond to, her every emotional gambit If it's the latter, my Boss is always available .All the best TV Jonesy1: |
Timbuktou:Graciás - may the Lord bless us in our generations - even those yet unseen - and give us the grace to raise our sons to "quit themselves like men" and raise accomplished daughters to become the choice and cherish of such men". TV |
This can be more complicated than at first appears. One would hope the necessity simply wouldn't be there. By reason of closeness and proximity, I have no reason to doubt the paternity of my children. Secondly, the boy has some unique characteristics passed down through our male lineage - funnily enough I didn't check with my daughter.If one has any reason to suspect, then how will you have peace if you don't verify? As was mentioned, not just for cheating, but for swaps, which actually happen to criminal order sometimes - https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/jun/02/el-salvador-british-man-and-wife-in-baby-swap-ordeal-take-son-home. Our new femcentric era in the West has made inroads even here. In some countries - most notably France - a man cannot DNA test his supposed offspring, without approval from the mother. I've actually heard of cases where the result was "not yours mate" be he was still ordered to provide for the child till they turned 18 TV |
Timbuktou:Maybe offerings = "Likes"; sadder than I imagined .On another note, my man started school this past September. He's doing so well I'm made up. Chip off the old block ![]() TV |
Timbuktou:Back in the wild west, the sentence for rustling - horses or cattle - was capital. Even if we no longer stone them, they shouldn't be allowed in polite company - not to mention casually taking the scriptures into their "chop and clean" mouths ![]() Timbuktou:You shouldn't have retracted - he subtly hinted at it - or made it ambiguous - 5 time on the first page alone. Like I said, wolf. Pickabeau1 put it best, Christianity and feminism are like oil and water. He best choose who he wants to serve and do it wholeheartedly. Timbuktou:I'm an abuser because I make no bones about presenting the bible as I truly believe it - even if wrong, I am happy to be challenged. Note how he has not made one reference to scripture. Baba nla feel good preacher .TV |
Timbuktou:On the face of it maybe, but in action Olaadegbu is neither fish nor fowl. He knows the truth of Gods word. No divorce, but he ardently desires the approval of the unrepentant serial divorcees and fornicators who have swarmed this thread, hence him not making that assertion ab initio. Instead making it sound like divorce is a solution to the nebulously framed "abuse" he presented. Wolf in sheeps clothing . What Ola should have done - if not for his love of applause & validation from men - is too have made the biblical position clear, and presented biblically based criteria to avoid abuse foundationally, or remedy it should it occur post nuptials. Now he's stuck, so he's making it personal - don't they all - trying to paint me as an abuser . After I clearly stated that abuse has no place in a Christian marriage, and should not actually be found in any well-constituted union. Let me go and bring pictures ![]() TV01: TV01: TV01: TV01: OLAADEGBU:Querying my marriage - The serial divorcee and husband rustler he smooches with, and embraces the ignorant fornicator. Ask missjo for the spade when she's done! TV |
RiloKiley:Our lived experience and years of received wisdom cannot be denied . No woman has ever listed "chore expert" as a must in a potential spouse .If chores being done by the man are as a result of his or his wife' push for equality, then danger. Women do not generally want equals, they want bosses .If it's a man who delivers in terms of his masculinity who makes a freewill decision to be involved - seeing them not as chores, but him running his household - nothing spoil. In fact, his wife will look up to him all the more, and know she better not slack as he no send .TV |
Timbuktou:...a dimwit with gender dysphoria ![]() OLAADEGBU:What you are on about? What your point is. Is divorce permitted scripturally - for any reason? What is the scriptural response to "abuse" - of any kind? OLAADEGBU:...oh dearie me...I'm going to have to get the pictures out ![]() OLAADEGBU:...it is you who has trivialised marriage - which is till death do part - according to the bible. By seeming to suggest that divorce should be allowed for abuse - playing to the gallery of the "worship ma feelins" crowd .Knowing what the bible says, and being unable to refute or respond affirming your implicit suggestion, in the face of the sound exegesis you have been hose-piped with , you are now trying to claim "trivialisation". It's the old "has God truly said" ruse. It will not work here . The bible does not permit dissolution of a consummated marital union for any reason. True Christians will not abuse their spouses - in the event of "problems", they will seek, forgiveness, healing and restoration, not divorce. You know full well the bible does not permit divorce, but you pivoted your OP on divorce. Not the basis of solid marriages at foundation, how to ensure unions are robust, or remedies for abuse, incipient or aggravated. That's why you got lots of applause from assorted "feelins chasers" and twice divorced husband snatchers - which is presumably what you were after . You have craftily questioned the holy writ, debased true marriage, pushed divorce and valorised abuse. Shame on you .You entertain me? You are for my amusement. I'm toying with you - although fast tiring of that . TV |
nickxtra:Hi Nick, Sorry to hear your plight. Your wife has broken trust - and in a way that could have affected the fundamentals of your decision to marry her. Please forgive her, strongly impress upon her the kind of openness and honesty you expect in your relationship, and help her work towards it by showing her you are committed to her come what may. Do not take this issue to any outside parties. Lies & betrayal can come much worse than this - more later. She was attractive enough for you to marry and not suspect anything. Work with her to ensure she retains her youthfulness - do likewise yourself. Continue to delight in her physically. Hopefully your sexual journeys will perfectly align. Thank you for putting your children first,but I'm actually asking you to put your wife first regardless. I sense you believe - be that Godly man. ****************************************************************************************************************** The basic/carnal women will lie about inter-alia; The length, volume and even origin of her hair The fullness and curve of her eyebrows The plumpness and shape of her lips The perkiness of her breasts Her looks generally, and her height and weight The flatness of her tummy and the narrowness of her waist The "sticky-outiness" of her bottom The length and leanness of her legs Her shoe size - hence the numerous callouses and bunions ![]() The number of lovers she has had The number of abortions she has performed How many children she has - if she actually tells at all How many friends she has, how in demand she is, the men after her, her job She'll lie about how good a person she is, how loyal, how committed and how hard-working She'll lie about why she got divorced, why she stole her friends man She'll lie to herself about how the lies are actually good, for the best and really a form of "attenuated truth" She'll not only overlook, she'll actually support the lies of other women at a "group" level, for that validates and justifies her own lies (manifold examples on this thread alone) Oga, if that's the only thing, you actually got off pretty lightly ![]() TV |
missjo:There is simply no pleasing some people is there?? . I answered you in a way that fully met the expectations you set out; bullying, insulting and down talking - and you still aren't happy .You opened by making unfounded and unsubstantiated allegations against me and then claim I went on the defensive . You are? Like I said, you don't have the heft. What makes you think you have the right to pose questions or demand answers of me. If you aren't a Christian what's it to you? If you are, you should know. Orishi rishi up in here presenting an ersatz spirituality. If you have nothing cogent to say, here's a spade, feel free to disappear up your own fundament .I continue to deliver ![]() TV |
soonest:If I wish to introduce feminism, I am free to do so. Likewise, you are free to ignore or refute soonest:Me, trying to be smart . Fightin' talk - Me likey . Physical abuse? Nope, the OP started by mentioning abuse - without any qualification - and cited it as a reason for divorce. He went further to categorise 4 - also alluding to a number of other - types of abuse. Next time please come along with your reading glasses and comprehension smarts . TV |
Sparklequeen:If abuse - as opposed to low level conflict - occurs in a marriage, spouses should seek immediate resolution. Even low level conflict should not be a feature of a healthy marriage, let alone a christian one. Love & submission. How hard is that ?If abuse is escalating or serious, endangered party should seek to remove themselves from the situation, seek the right help, and if necessary remain separated for their well-being, until such time as the situation is resolved. Divorce does not save one from abuse, it can take years to process a divorce. Lots of domestic, indeed more domestic abuse occurs between "unmarried couples". Domestic abuse is not an inherent feature of marriage. If after all efforts a resolution to effect reconciliation cannot be found, you can remain separated, but you cannot remarry. Christian marriage is until death do part. Any subsequent "union" whilst the spouse is still alive is adultery. I know huh? Shine eye, look well, choose wisely and enter the institution with the requisite sobriety. Christianity is not for flakes, marriage is not for the faint-hearted. ![]() TV |
dominique:...and this is an endorsement for marrying single mothers ![]() So what reasonable man will not hesitate before marrying a woman who loves her child - by another man - more than him? Another reason why single mothers are avoided is because they are usually looking for provision and protection for their child/ren first and a husband second. It makes all the difference if the child in question is actually yours. Her love and your efforts are going on your child, not someone elses. People are free to make their own decisions, but ATBE there is greater risk. Simples. If you can live with it and deal with any fallout, by all means. Does anyone even talk about marrying virgins any more ?TV |
RiloKiley:Some much needed nuance to this discussion. But I doubt it will be appreciated. The feminist hordes and their ideologically transgenderd enablers are after divorce at will. No-fault divorce is already here legally, they are just trying to force the message home socially, and ensure it's embedded into all belief systems. Like abortion really. Abortion was in case of rape or threat to the mothers life. These two reasons account for an almost negligible number of abortions, and the real push is for abortion on demand - at any point and for any reason. Here they cite cases of serious physical abuse or death as examples, then make abuse itself the justifier, abuse without any real or objective definition - i.e. based on what the woman feels. Soon, if you can't afford a walk in wardrobe full of designer bags for your wife, abuse will be cited and divorce justified . Poor men, you are on your own .TV |
missjo:Love the bible me. Untrammelled - and often unpalatable - truth . And please, I'm an equal opportunity bully, insulter and talk down-oner" .Can't rightly tell if you are after a discussion, fight or just looking to score cheap points. Any which way, I can't say I really give a toss, you haven't shown you possess the heft. TV |
Is it too difficult to parse situations with objectivity? The core question should be; is single parenthood a good thing? We are all touched and grateful for seemingly heart-warming stories such as this one. But for every one we can give thanks for, there are a hundred that left poorer outcomes for both the parent and child/ren involved. Is it overly difficult to separate the personal from policy? All the data is already in, single parenthood (and I refer mainly to wilful single-parenthood, not widowhood or rape, which in any event are a relative minority) underpins many social pathologies. It’s a major indicator of poverty, high-profile celebrity instances non-withstanding. It more likely to lead to issues for the children, especially as they approach their teenage years. Males being more likely to be delinquent, and females being more likely to be promiscuous, are two of the most well known outcomes. Search data for the presence of fathers in the lives of prison inmates. But there are numerous others, inter-alia, feelings of abandonment, self-worth/esteem issues, developmental and socialisation issues, poorer academic achievement, etc. And yes, for your average person it has to have a potential impact on future relationships; from the financial burden, babymama/dada issues, all around acceptance etc. The stigma surrounding single-parenthood may hurt, but at the societal level it is a protective mechanism, not intended to be wilfully malicious to individuals. There is a net cost, which society bears. It’s why families tread warily. Who grows up dreaming of being or marrying a single parent. And yes, women bear the brunt here, so it behoves them to act more circumspectly and, make wiser choices, as opposed to unthinking indignation and the push for its acceptance which seems to prevail here? Yes single parents should be given all the support possible, everything should be done to ameliorate the situation, especially to ensure positive outcomes for the child/ren. But no, single parenthood should not be sold as an attractive alternative to intact biological families, or even, as it seems to be today, preferable, even aspirational ![]() And in the rush to herald this, the intimacy at 11 seems to have gone singularly unremarked upon ![]() TV |
thesicilian:This may appear to be the case at first glance, but look at parallel scriptures; Matthew 19:9 And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery. Mark 10:11 And he saith unto them, Whosoever shall put away his wife, and marry another, committeth adultery against her. Luke 16:18 Whosoever putteth away his wife, and marrieth another, committeth adultery: and whosoever marrieth her that is put away from her husband committeth adultery. If these verses in Mark & Luke are to be believed - and they are - divorcing a woman and remarrying makes one an adulterer. Along with the divorced spouse if they should marry another. Luke and Mark seemingly contradict Matthew 5:32 & 19:9, or at least says that even if you divorce your wife for infidelity, you cannot remarry, and neither can she. So again; Matthew 5:32 But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery. Matthew 1:18-19 Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost. Then Joseph her husband, being a just man, and not willing to make her a publick example, was minded to put her away privily. The seeming exception in Matthew was due to what we see in chapter 1. Joseph was espoused (betrothed to Mary), it was not a consummated marriage, even though he was called her husband - "before they came together" - it's why paternity was not in question - for ordinary Joe anyway .He was putting away a fiancee, not a wife. Both parts of the transaction were considered binding, but voiding could occur at the betrothal stage (prior to consummation) if "fornication", note it was not "adultery", was proven. They were considered husband and wife at both stages. In todays terms we say better a broken engagement. There was no concept of dating or loosely engaged. Biblically, after consummation, marriage is until death do part - hence this saying by the disciples; Matthew 19:10 - His disciples say unto him, If the case of the man be so with his wife, it is not good to marry. That's bible, it can be hard,, so take it or leave it. But please stop trying to interject worldly morés to make it more palatable to those who cannot receive it .TV ...Olaadegbu, please stop prating about divorce for abuse - it's not there. |
OLAADEGBU: OLAADEGBU: OLAADEGBU: Timbuktou: OLAADEGBU: Timbuktou:See logic fail – Emotional abuse (usually by women) is as bad as physical abuse (usually by men), but women are allowed to divorce for physical abuse(contrary to scripture), but men are not. See policy fail – divorce is permissable for abuse (of which there are numerous types), but at what level of abuse (for individual categories or universally) is not clear? Is it subjective, or is there an objective measure? Olaadegbu are you a feminist - your shoddy logic & ill-formulated policy would suggest so ![]() TV |
OLAADEGBU:Are you irretrievably dull ? What you wrote up there is akin to saying "my bank doesn't allow overdrafts, therefore it's ok to steal" . Let me ask you - does the bible permit or condone abuse? OLAADEGBU:You persist. If you desist, you remain happy to be separated - their is no divorce, and separation (and even if you forcefully claim divorce), does not grant one leave to re-marry. Else both the remarrying spouse and the person they enter into a sham union with are committing adultery . All simple and clear from the scriptures .OLAADEGBU:Refer to your BIBLE - Basic Instructions Before Leaving Earth (and while one is still on it) . There are no abusive marriages, only abusive people . Don't marry them and your marriage won't be abusive. Learner .OLAADEGBU:Not only are you campaigning for Christian divorce, you are also blaspheming and adding/subtracting from the scriptures. You are arguing that divorce is scripturally permmisable. If divorce is permmisable, then serial divorce is permmisable. If divorce is allowed then the scripture is broken 1 Corinthians 7:39 - A wife is bound as long as her husband lives; but if her husband is dead, she is free to be married to whom she wishes... Romans 7 - 1 Do you not know, brothers and sisters—for I am speaking to those who know the law—that the law has authority over someone only as long as that person lives? 2 For example, by law a married woman is bound to her husband as long as he is alive, but if her husband dies, she is released from the law that binds her to him. 3 So then, if she has sexual relations with another man while her husband is still alive, she is called an adulteress. But if her husband dies, she is released from that law and is not an adulteress if she marries another man. Your audience are the cohort of divorcees and people with "bend down and pick spouses". They are here talking about how the bible can be interpreted in "different ways" - as if covetousness, theft, lies and adultery are ambiguous . OLAADEGBU:You have categorised 4+ types of abuse - at what degree of abuse is divorce scriptural for each (and any other you care to mention) category. Who decides how much? Is it subjective, or is there some objective rule? We are not in deep waters yet and you already appear to be panicking . Well, at least you'll have big audiences of seeker type religionists who live to have their feelings tickled and wicked ways validated. Awon oni "itching ears" ![]() TV |
OLAADEGBU:...ah! Sophistry, key tool of blasphemers and divorce campaigners . My first response to you on this thread; https://www.nairaland.com/3362781/abuse-acceptable-reason-divorce#49552647 - only now you want to twist "separate" to mean "divorce" right . Separate means just that, not divorcdeor dissolution of the union.The bible says marriage is for life. if you can find anything contrary, please share, or explicit reference to dissolution for "abuse", likewise .OLAADEGBU:More sleight of hand; I asked you to buttress your own question, below, with scriptural references - I know the answer ![]() OLAADEGBU:...and following, is there any Chriistian writ to marry or conduct marriage with abuse as a subtext ?TV |
OLAADEGBU:Did you know most marriages do fine and deliver even with low levels of conflict - I would term that abuse - should we end them all? OLAADEGBU:No one said it's right, or should be condoned. The bible just says it's not grounds for divorce, and forgiveness, healing and reconciliation should be the initial recourse. Or are forgiveness, healing and reconciliatrion against the law .OLAADEGBU:Don't get into a potentially abusive marriage, and if the signs appear, nip them in the bud. If it happens seek remedies quickly. If you choose separation, fine, it does not mean divorce, or pre-suppose re-marriage without one spouse passing away . Beautifully simply biblical truth .OLAADEGBU:This is not about abuse is it. You wiley ole' divorce campaigner you . TV |
Joavid:...typically before kids, a relationship of sorts is formed. And hopefully it will result in marriage and kids. Married parents in an intact biological family is still the best way to raise kids ATBE - hence why governments encourage it. TV |
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. I did not post based on my sex, but on the clear reading of scripture. Does time do anything for a slopey forehead?





. All simple and clear from the scriptures
. Don't marry them and your marriage won't be abusive. Learner