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FamilyRe: America's Hypocrisy-Gay & Incest(american Mom, Son In Love Charged With Incest) by TV01(m): 3:51pm On Aug 15, 2016
Timbuktou:
Shaybebaby, you are back from hospital admission now. Instead of you to do jeje, you're jumping up and down like C.Ronaldo abi? They will finish you again, you will have high fever and escape for two years. grin. Are you a masochist ni?
Bro'...for the inconsolably lonely, aging, and at best plain - even in her youth - baby mama, any kind of attention is good. Careful 0, this type can will anything into reality! In her head, you probably have ardent suitor status grin


TV

...it's scarily easy to acquire orisirisi, obsessives, fanatics, votares etc. on a place like NL. See why I follow no one and studiously avoid PM's cheesy
FamilyRe: America's Hypocrisy-Gay & Incest(american Mom, Son In Love Charged With Incest) by TV01(m):
Mindfulness:
The righteous and morally superior TV insulting other people's families, not only mine. No problem. We don't care. cheesy
In Michelle Obama's voice: When they go low, we go high! cheesy cool
@bold
Dullard, I have your picture as well. grin grin grin
But I know why you won't post it here again even though it would perfectly fit into the context of homos.exulaity. grin grin grin
Old man flaunting his azz on NL. grin grin grin grin grin
After spewing threats like Saul of Tarsus, you are now feigning victim status grin. You are so lacking in any kind of content. Having my picture is now your boast grin. Keep hyping that my left butzz cheek wink. And no one has begged you 0! My stock can only rise - and I even have minions like you to do the donkey work cool

shaybebaby:
Okay, I'm going to go there... His wife is fugly, that why I said she must have a beautiful heart because the surface ain't it at all.
Sorry but it's what I thought but felt it would be mean to the poor lass who has done nothing wrong except marry this turd.
...fortunately others have been there before you - and returned a truer testimony cool. But even if they hadn't, we all know that emanates from a special place of near unquenchable spite. A bile filled rant, motivated by the bitterness of the benefit dependant and inconsolably lonely baby-mama grin. Sorry eh cheesy!

Timbuktou:
She did? Tufiakwa.
Not only did she do it, she shamelessly crows about it, encourages others to tread the same path, and blasphemy of blasphemies, insists her god wanted her to do it as it made her happy shocked. It doesn't get more amoral than one who worships her own belly tongue.

GDTs gathering, pictures of mass destruction loading cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy


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FamilyRe: America's Hypocrisy-Gay & Incest(american Mom, Son In Love Charged With Incest) by TV01(m): 4:12pm On Aug 14, 2016
pippimp:
I honestly believe you confuse yourself in an attempt to sound eloquent. My argument has always been about the freedom of everyone to do as they wish as long as the safety or rights of others are not trampled on. Obviously you disagree with this else you would not have been so ardent in countering all my comments. Every single comment you've made so far is an assertion to such a right to dictate and impose your views on others. Or don't you read/comprehend what you write before posting them?
And no one, anywhere - in a decently ordered society - has ever had such a right.

The safety and rights of individuals are always to some degree subject to the collective whole in any ordered society. I have not forced my beliefs, I have merely maintained that this individual freedom you are prating on about, does not bear scrutiny.

Aside that, I have only taken a position against the normalisation of "homosexual" acts. As previously stated, I am not concerned about peoples desire to abuse their bodies.


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FamilyRe: End of Part 1 by TV01(m): 4:04pm On Aug 14, 2016
Stilly how far? I'm posting here because of you, I'd typically give this one a miss,but had to query the below;

Stillfire:
African American women's eyes are beginning to clear now. A lot of them are on mass exodus from black men and the black community in total, lmao. grin
Please ma, where is the promised land they are "exodusing" to? grin


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FamilyRe: America's Hypocrisy-Gay & Incest(american Mom, Son In Love Charged With Incest) by TV01(m): 3:54pm On Aug 14, 2016
pippimp:
And yet you could not answer one simple question. What gives you the right to impose your beliefs on others? How and why is this so difficult?
And where did I claiim or assert such a right? No answers, so hide under bogus assertions undecided.


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FamilyRe: America's Hypocrisy-Gay & Incest(american Mom, Son In Love Charged With Incest) by TV01(m): 3:46pm On Aug 14, 2016
pippimp:
It is utterly embarrassing that this simple concept of rights, liberties and freedom is so difficult for most people to understand. How hard is this to comprehend?
Your embarrassment is your woeful inability to clearly articulate what you mean, hence the resort to pious sloganeering.

pippimp:
The issue is not whether i approve of homosexuality, incest, etc, but the right of people to do whatever they want as long as it does not harm another person or hinder other peoples rights, or against the law.
How abjectly pitiful your mewling sounds undecided. What is a right? Is the law the base or sole arbiter of what is morally right or wrong undecided?

Where in jurisprudence, religion or anyplace else is a homosexual defined? There are only homosexual acts. To fall for the simplistic ruse of men claiming intrinsic identity to justify their deviant ways, then arguing for unique categorisation and rights associated with that false premise, is a bare-faced fraud one does not need to be educated to see through.

Why is bestiality wrong? why is paedophilia wrong? Some "homosexuals" have argued that sexual contact with minors is often beneficial, whilst others are actively campaigning for a reduction in the age of consent.

If a person is persecuted for not wanting to be party to homosexual acts or celebrations of sodomy due to conscience or religious reasons, how are his rights not being violated? What wrong has he done, what so called right has he denied by simply declining.

What & whom determines what is harm, especially at the societal level. Are individual rights and freedoms totally oblivious to the collective. flourishing?

pippimp:
We cannot all be the same. It is just not possible. We cannot like everyone we see or know. What separates us from Animals is our ability to co exist despite our differences.
What are you even trying to articulate here?

pippimp:
Who made you judge jury and executioner. Trying to make someone conform to your beliefs has been proven by history to be disastrous.
Histrionics again. Where have I said anyone has to conform to my beliefs? Yet everyone has to conform to your "let everyone do as they please, as long as they don't "harm" anyone rubric undecided

pippimp:
Why is this so difficult to understand for God's sake? Imagine a world where let's say someone like Muhammed had force everyone to be muslim, how would that have worked out for you? How would it have been if the crusaders had made everyone christian? I'm pretty sure you are against it depending on what religion you follow. So, if you are against that, then why would you want to force yours on another person? No one seems to be able to answer that question.
When it comes to our collective norms and morés everyone has to exercise degrees of restraint to ensure the flourishing of the whole. Islam is still hell-bent on forcibly converting the whole world under pain of death. The crusades where a response to that threat.

And quit with the baseless assertion that anyone is trying to force their beliefs on you. Why are those who believe marriage is a male/female institution being forced to agree that it is unsexed and participate against their will? It is "enlightened" progressive tyrants like yourself who are forcing their beliefs on everyone.

You and the rest of the GDT's on here really need to learn the difference between enlightenment and hive-mind indoctrination. It's almost as wide as the gulf betwixt truth and falsehood.


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FamilyRe: America's Hypocrisy-Gay & Incest(american Mom, Son In Love Charged With Incest) by TV01(m): 3:21pm On Aug 14, 2016
Mindfulness:
Do you really think that I will have serious discussions with you after seeing this picture?
You've never posted anything that anyone, with any discernment has taken seriously. Now you have your fixation with my fundament as an excuse.

Mindfulness:
I choose where you post the pictures. Are you going to finally post it or should I do it for you?
grin grin - you must be mistaking me for the 2nd hand man you stole tongue. You, "choose where I post my picture" grin grin. The picture is mine to post or not. I can post, re-post and un-post as I choose cool. Don't confuse me with the weakling you have at home. Is it money you use to control him or was it for "papers"? We know it ain't with your looks or finery grin.

Mindfulness:
If you don't post it, I will spam the entire forum to show how the righteous one, the biggest moralizer of all presents himself on a public forum.
Come, has anyone here begged Mindlessness not to post? grin I already told you your level. You remain pegged grin. Hype-master for half of my buttz (probationary grin). Can you hear yourself? You will devote your time to posting - in addition to your constant discussing - my picture over NL? Just remember the post is unpaid cheesy.

A sclerotic and dried-out old boiler threatening me, with my own picture. Needless to say, whether you post it or not, my stock can only rise cool. Although I appreciate it will stimulate you obvious obsession with me cool. Of course you can post your own "bulldog swallows fly cum pig with lipstick face", or your beached whale body, or perhaps that of the carcass of a man you no longer find in the least bit attractive cheesy.

What a loser


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FamilyRe: America's Hypocrisy-Gay & Incest(american Mom, Son In Love Charged With Incest) by TV01(m): 1:58pm On Aug 13, 2016
Mindfulness:
Oya!

The picture!

But don't cheat, I want the one where you flaunt your azz in your black bikini! grin

If you don't post it, I will spam the entire forum to show how the righteous one, the biggest moralizer of all presents himself on a public forum.

Pronto TV!



And the God of in.cest. Adam fvcked Eve and their children must have procreated with one another. grin grin grin
It will go up before the weekend is over, I'll resurrect the other thread, so as not to spam this one. Tender cogent arguments here instead of hiding behind my big black butts grin...but please hype it a little more as is your hype-master remit grin. Lot's of old cargoes, votaries, deluded single mamas, inverterate adulters etc. etc. who will be glazed of eye cool. I'm off out now, as I guess are others. it's the weekend don't you know? You sre so 1 dimensional.

TV

...consanguinity would not have been a problem with a near pure genome, and a necessity with but a handful of people. You can't out-think your creator, or even one of his most unworthy vessels cool

FamilyRe: America's Hypocrisy-Gay & Incest(american Mom, Son In Love Charged With Incest) by TV01(m): 1:20pm On Aug 13, 2016
Mindfulness:
Liar! Go to church and repent or else your sadistic God will burn you in hell. grin


You really want me to post your bikini pictures, don't you? The shaming that is your forte will bite your azz. grin grin grin

Karma is a good thing. cheesy cool
You are a real dullard. And full of false bravissimo. You are trying to threaten me with my own pic grin? I will post it before you do, and more. I mean really? Show us a pic of your spouse-snatcher sef now, or one of the specimen you stole. And please, you are only dedicated hype-master for my left buttz cheek, not the whole thing - we don't want you to die of excitement overload now do we grin.

TV

...oh, and you got the wrong God, mine is neither sadistic, nor eternally burns people in hell cool
FamilyRe: America's Hypocrisy-Gay & Incest(american Mom, Son In Love Charged With Incest) by TV01(m): 1:10pm On Aug 13, 2016
pippimp:
You are missing the point. Personally, i believe that sex between two people of the same gender is absolutely disgusting but that is not the issue. The issue is, because i don't like it, does that mean people should not be free to do what they want as long as it does not harm me?
So this is the vaunted understanding of individual liberties, freedoms and rights that makes you feel everyone who does not share it resides in the absence of all light undecided.

How does the topic of the OP harm you? Why is incest wrong?
Is individual harm to you the only thing you could come up with? What about a "social cost", which burdens the collective, is that not a consideration undecided?

pippimp:
Do you know why terrorists do what they do? Because they believe that they are right and you are wrong. Your way of life is abnormal. So, by your logic, since they believe that, then it is ok for them to kill you, right?
Straight to false equivalence, I actually hoped, secretly wanted there to be something more. My bad.

Because I don't feel deviant behaviour should be normalised or taught to children as such, or people forcibly made to consider it morally good and celebrate it - when it it is unequivocally deleterious for society - makes me a terrorist, wanting to kill others undecided

pippimp:
Just because you believe their way is wrong does not mean you can impose your beliefs on them.
Which belief have I sought to impose? I have taken a well reasoned position that same sex intimacy is at best dysfunctional and should not be normalised. Likewise other forms of deviant sexual behaviour, of which there is a long list. Outside that, how they abuse themselves is down to them.

pippimp:
And you might want to brush up on your history. Homosexuality has been in existence since the dawn of time. Look up greece, the Roman empire, france, and most arab countries etc. The only reason everyone is so aware of it now is because of the internet. You can't say because you don't like something you can then shackle someone else. This is why Africa is so backwards.
I clearly stated this behaviour has been at the best on the periphery of all societies throughout all time and you make a statement suggesting I did not know it had been extant since the dawn of time undecided

pippimp:
There are many people i don't like i work with but i have to work with them and be civil. If we all all acted on our pre dispositions, this planet would be destroyed. Read up on the spanish inquisition and the crusade and you will understand why it is not a good idea to impose your beliefs on other people.
I should read up? undecided. What has anything that has been said that suggested crusades or an inquisition. Do you consider histrionics a discussion tool? undecided grin

pippimp:
What christians did then would make ISIS members look like kindergarten kids today. While you are at it, read up on Hitler and his reasons for killing six million jews. His thought process was no different from yours.
I should read up?
What was the genesis of the crusades? How many died? The crusades where primarily a defensive reaction to marauding Islamic bloodletting. They were not expansionary be it in an imperial or religious sense. And the bloodletting that continues till this day. There has been a wholesale unabated genocide of Christians in the middle east. Have you the faintest of clues? undecided

And I note your sly support for ISIS. You are the type of terrorist sympathiser the West could do without. Please return home as soon as your visa expires grin

Was Hitler a Christian. He was a humanist, only such believe in racial supremacy. So, your charter of rights is that everyone is free to do whatever, as to take collective moral positions makes one a terrorist, crusader, or Hitlerian grin.


pippimp:
Cc cococandy
Coco has already started to drop her absurdly reductionist one liners which stymie, rather than lend nuance to a discussion.


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FamilyRe: America's Hypocrisy-Gay & Incest(american Mom, Son In Love Charged With Incest) by TV01(m):
Mindfulness:
But the average Nigerian's morality is at the level of a three-year-old: I will do anything if I can do away with it.
Not: I will do what is right because my moral development extends that of a baboon.
The bold absolutely takes the biscuit grin; from someone who stole anothers husband, just because it made her happy and she could get away with it. Whatever the Nigerian average of which you speak is, you are way, way below it. You personify amorality undecided


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FamilyRe: America's Hypocrisy-Gay & Incest(american Mom, Son In Love Charged With Incest) by TV01(m): 9:13am On Aug 13, 2016
pippimp:
Until you grasp the true concept of rights and freedoms you can never understand.
Maybe it would help if you could briefly state what this charter of rights and freedoms should contain - at a minimum. And then explain how the sexual behaviour which all societies - until very recently - across all time have universally seen as destructive and immoral, suddenly becomes something that is mainstreamed and forcebly celebrated. What exactly was it that the enlightened who champion this know now, that was hidden from men all this time?

Danke Shoen


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FamilyRe: America's Hypocrisy-Gay & Incest(american Mom, Son In Love Charged With Incest) by TV01(m): 10:37pm On Aug 12, 2016
Mindfulness:
Says the one who posted his azz on NL. grin
...just ask politely grin. Your warped reverse psychology is pitifully lame cheesy. And as usual, no answers...understandable though, given the power of TV in facsimile grin.


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FamilyRe: America's Hypocrisy-Gay & Incest(american Mom, Son In Love Charged With Incest) by TV01(m): 10:28pm On Aug 12, 2016
pippimp:
If i understand you correctly, you mean while in Nigeria, your views on gay relationships was amiable? If that is the case, then you are a better person than I. It took some serious reorientation in the true meaning of freedom and rights for me to really understand. This is why i understand how they think because i used to think like that. You must have come from a well groomed environment which affected your mentality. The vast majority of Nigerians, because of societal upbringing and norms have serious issues they are not aware of. I wasn't aware of it till i was exposed to something better.
This whole notion of "exposure" leading to a better "understanding" and thus acceptance of homosexual behaviour is beyond risible undecided.

Up until a generation ago, no nation, culture or community had normalised such behaviours. Simply because they are destructive. At best they were winked at, or confined to the periphery.

Up until a few years ago, even people like Obama and Clinton were clear that marriage was male female. When did this cloud of exposure suddenly envelop and enlighten everyone? And when will it pass over Nigeria.

It's pure hive-mind indoctrination to state that exposure leads to acceptance of deviancy. In truth, removal of cultural or religious restraints just let peoples inherent nature reveal itself. What the exposure does is free the unstable to jettison or re-work their moral reference points

I have spent only a few years of my life outside the West, and even here it is not universally or even majorly accepted. It is a forced top down ideology, not a groundswell or popular movement.

And (Mindfulness with your usual reductionist extremism, which typically precedes outright lies grin) no one is saying white people or the West introduced such deviant behaviour to Africa. It has long been with us, but nowhere was it mainstreamed or accorded the kind of ritual honour proper male female relationships were. That is what the West are agitating for - and it should be strenuously resisted.

I need to take longer breaks. Sometimes the level here gives me headaches angry.


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FamilyRe: America's Hypocrisy-Gay & Incest(american Mom, Son In Love Charged With Incest) by TV01(m): 10:14pm On Aug 12, 2016
Timbuktou:
TV01, bringing succour to nairaland spinsters and unhappily married women since 1584. grin
...and only in facsimile 0! I doubt they could handle even seeing me in 3D grin

Timbuktou:
If you have nothing to say, just say so and stop wasting my time. TV01, come o. This one wants more pictures, the punna done dry again.
...abi who is she fooling cheesy. Has she gone for talcum powder grin grin

I'm seriously thinking of rewarding her ardour for pix of my buttz. Lets formalise her hot flushes grin. Hows about "official hypemaster for TV's left butts cheek" Crybaby can share duties on the right with other GDT's in support.

Oya Mindfulness, tingle time...pix loading grin grin grin grin


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FamilyRe: Boys Night Out Discussions by TV01(m): 3:18pm On Aug 02, 2016
Timbuktou:
TV01,Kimoni, et al; I'm on vacay make una no vex. Young Tim says hi
Now that's what I'm talking about. Enjoy your vacation o jare and tell Young Tim that uncle TV sends his warm regards - wardrobe sorted. At how old! cheesy


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FamilyRe: Hubby Said He Used To Have A Crush On His Wife's Cousin. (analysis Needed) by TV01(m): 11:51am On Aug 02, 2016
...the brother was indiscreet. It was a totally pointless and potentially hurtful disclosure, especially if he knows his wife' disposition. Hopefully wifey will not take what should be no more than hurtful and make it damaging....


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FamilyRe: Boys Night Out Discussions by TV01(m): 11:19am On Aug 02, 2016
Kimoni:
There is problem o TV, it's going to create inefficiencies in the system.
Ineficiencies, tension and conflict. See an example. The point in this post is not the construct that the indivdual desires,but the opportuity cost for others who are in dir eneed of medical services in a "cash-strapped" healthcare system.

The story at the end. A 17 year old wants to transition from female to male, and have her eggs stored, so her "girlfriend" can be a surrogate mother at some point.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3716301/March-Male-Mums-Women-having-sex-changes-NHS-receiving-free-IVF-three-men-born-female-brink-having-babies.html


TV

Timbuktou, abeg, you neva finish work 0.
FamilyRe: In The Event Of Divorce, Who Takes Custody Of The Children? by TV01(m):
njokusboy:
The rule of equality already says no gender is better skilled in the art of Child rearing, some impetuous people have already opined that gay couples can train children just as well....
grin grin grin grin grin
You mean those with 1 dimensional brains and 2 sided mouths who purvey godlessness in 3D? They know who they are. Make I tanda for here small jare.

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FamilyRe: Woman Dumps Husband Of 5 Years After He Saved Mother Instead Of Her During Flood by TV01(m): 12:26pm On Aug 01, 2016
The man took a calculated risk. It's unlikely his aged mother would have been able to make it onto the roof of her home, or otherwise save herself unaided. Knowing his wife, children and father were in no immediate danger, he elected to ensure his mother was fine first. Eminently reasonable one would think. As it turned out, everyone was ultimately saved.

Indeed, he ostensibly treated his wife equally (as many would likely demand), instead of specially (as they all really want). What pained her was the realisation that he would not simply act in a manner pursuant to her best interest regardless of other considerations, but rather act rationally, and in a risk based manner.

Applause sir. Real man dat cool.


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FamilyRe: Why Do Married Women Have To Be Addressed As Mrs? by TV01(m):
Mindfulness:
What's so special about holidays in Turkey? Millions of middle-income families travel to Turkey every year. grin TV feelin' funky because he has been to Turkey. grin grin
You are back? When all is quiet on the Western front grin. And after mindlessly throwing your friend under the bus. Deserter cheesy.

I know that millions of families visit Turkey each year. And not just middle-income families. There are arrangements and facilities to suit all income brackets if you know your way wink.

The point was to show that the picture that had you "making like Merkel taking pictures with swarthy foreigners", was actually earlier than the blue shorts pic. I am not one to prate about my income or education, social status etc. which is one of your hallmarks on this board lipsrsealed.

You are after more pics se? Don't worry, I'll leave you with a whole collection. NL will no longer occupy so much of your time grin. Be sure to invest in some "loose clothing" cool


TV

...ps nice gif on your second post. Although it's a baseless assertion, at last your true talent shines through wink.
FamilyRe: 5 Lies Satan Wants You To Believe About Divorce by TV01(m): 2:44pm On Jul 30, 2016
Exponental:
Divorce is not an envisaged plan of most couples but those who find themselves in it see it as a way forward.
Unfortunately, many marry these days with divorce as an "option" in mind. And marring ignorantly means it will be an outcome for many...and it's never forward as in progress undecided

Exponental:
They may be wrong but if it brings peace, so be it....
That's the whole thrust of this OP, it rarely brings true lasting peace and always a lot of hurt and pain..

Exponental:
Even the Bible supports divorce on the ground of adultery. www.biblestudytools.com/topical-verses/divorce-bible-verses/
No the bible does not support divorce of a consummated marriage. But even if it did, does it prescribe divorce ahead of forgiveness, reconciliation and healing huh

Exponental:
I pray God's grace will keep me and my family united forever..... I love my wife so so much
Roger that...and that....amen!


Greatzeus:
You think those divorcees are all ignorant or carnal ornsomething?
Yes many are. And even if it's only 1, it's worth saying.

Greatzeus:
When you find yourself in the same situations, hope you will disappoint Satan?
Well lets hope that neither he or anyone else finds themselves in that situation - understanding and preparation help here wink. And if they do, pleasing God - who gives grace - may be a better perspective than disappointing Satan undecided. You sound embittered. Pele smiley.


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FamilyRe: Boys Night Out Discussions by TV01(m): 2:02pm On Jul 30, 2016
Timbuktou:
I was at my son's graduation ceremony yesterday(he graduated to Basic 1 grin) and he was, by far, the best pupil in his class. I was a proud father, I just dey stand l'emewa(continually) dey snap like say I be pro photographer. wink. He's a very intelligent boy
Congratulations and very well done...but you don't think you can just rinse and go like that se? Please present gallery of your efforts here grin.


TV

...and please, no ex-in-laws, neighbors, strangers you sat next to on the train, random strangers or shutterstock images wink.
FamilyRe: Boys Night Out Discussions by TV01(m): 1:08pm On Jul 30, 2016
Kimoni:
There is problem o TV, it's going to create inefficiencies in the system. We could as well maintain status quo if after all the previledges, we are all still going to end up as daycare givers angry
What you term inefficiency, I may well see as meaningful sacrifice, or opportunity cost, for the betterment of the whole. And be clear, both sides have to make these accommodations. Timbuktou has expatiated on some of this so succinctly, that I'm hopefully grabbing a back seat and large salted popcorn after this post.

If large enough numbers of people push for outlier status, they will no longer be outliers will they grin. And when I say the "norm", I essentially mean the coming together of men and women to build healthy families - with that being their priority.

Take the example of the female elite marine I gave (is elite marine a tautology lipsrsealed cheesy). Do you know women operating at that level often experience degrees of physical trauma that leave seriously debilitated, even infertile?

Ignoring that, what are her chances of successfully finding a "suitable" man? As even the hardest men generally prefer feminine women, and women still want men they consider "higher status". Not to mention that pursuit of that career will probably "shorten her window", due to the involvement and commitment required.

Now take the above as a metaphor for all the various pursuits (by outliers), that could potentially hinder the "essentiality of the male/female" dynamic as explained above. Then repeat this from a single family unit to a community or national level. Then if you will add in the "extreme" I mentioned earlier, of people being allowed to "construct" their own reality. Now, what did you come up with grin.

Yes, the West cool. Al the major western nations are experiencing plummeting fertility rates amongst their indigenous populations. Those that are experiencing population growth are doing so due to immigration.

If they could repopulate with like for look-alike i.e. UK taking in Aussies or Kiwis, Germany taking in Italians etc., it would be fine, as they are ethnically, culturally and for the most part religiously similar. Indeed, a european family can rock up here one generation and be part of the establishment by the next. But as they are all in essentially the same situation, they have to look further abroad, literally.

The problem Europe has now is that for the most part, the immigrant stock are not ethnically, culturally or religiously similar. We now have a flash-point between those that are post-faith and those that are fundamentally so. Those that give little thought to the pivotal notion of family, lineage, cultural heritage and faith traditions, and those who jealously guard theirs.

This would never have become an issue if indigenous Europeans simply bred in large enough numbers. Which they would if they held on to the traditional notions of what it meant to be male and female, family and faith. The Jihadi threat, has always been there. What has allowed it to have it's head is the familial failings of Europe. It is actually a symptom of the malaise in the West, not a cause.

TBH, I actually believe losing faith is the predicate for losing all the other things. Without faith or deeply embedded faith notions driving things, there are no absolutes (especially not moral ones) and then everything can be "deconstructed" can't it, everyone is an outlier aren't they?


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FamilyRe: Kids In Wedlock Vs Kids Out Of Wedlock by TV01(m): 12:27pm On Jul 30, 2016
madamesabi:
Do you think a married family with children is any better than an unmarried relationship with kids, if so why?

For me I'd say Nope, a family is a family as long as theres heaps of love and communication.
Take two identical "families", with the only difference being the marital status of the couples, then they are - on the face of it anyway - pretty much analogous. And if all things remain pretty much equal, outcomes on the whole shouldn't be too much different.

But even here you find seemingly insignificant things that could take on greater meaning and impact. Take for example names, lots of co-habiting couples choose marriage when children arrive, simply because it gives a greater sense of wholeness and unity, especially with the same surname.

Then there is also the perceived level of commitment. It is likely more relative as opposed to absolute,in couples who take that step of formalising their commitment via marriage - knowing what marriage means.

Perhaps more persuasively, the data clearly shows that even between the similar types I used by way of example, long-term, the unmarried couples are much more likely to split up. No gainsaying.

Marriage pays a domestic dividend that no other arrangement can match, from actual consideration of ones partner, to the commitment of the couple, the degree of involvement of their respective families, likelihood of separation, and to perhaps the most important, long-term well-being of the children. Looking like marriage, acting like marriage, or de facto marriage is simply not marriage.

Marriage it is cool


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FamilyRe: 5 Lies Satan Wants You To Believe About Divorce by TV01(m): 12:17pm On Jul 30, 2016
davit:
ening to the voice of Christ telling you that you CAN make it.  Put the pen down, stop the lawyers, put an end to the finger pointing and embrace the peace found in reconciliation.  Let the God of healing do what He does best.  Heal you.
A most excellent piece OP. And timely, given the preponderance of divorce advocates, home-wreckers, adulterers, spouse stealers, covenant breakers, prating baby-mamas and the like, that campaign in this section. I hope you come armed and prepared for battle grin.

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FamilyRe: Boys Night Out Discussions by TV01(m): 10:47pm On Jul 28, 2016
Kimoni:
TV01 and Timbuktou, if I get you right, you say that culture only re-enforces the biological/scientific/hormonal differences in the different genders even though there are and will always be outliers. And to prove this, babies naturally exhibit their gender attributes as they grow without being told to do so. hmnnnnnnn
It sounds like you are not convinced by our postulations huh Tim abeg, re-present the data you had about our liberated Swedish sisters na grin.

To progress my point further, I might add that I actually believe the vast majority of males and females have to conform to these biologically driven norms for society to flourish.

So that does give leave for some outliers. And some are outliers naturally. Those who are intersex for example, or those physically or mentally incapable of forming pair-bonds etc.

Kimoni:
But what's your take on the Prof's comment that one does not have to confine oneself to the expectations of his/her gender. To him, it's probably more of a mind thing. And yes, I'm a firm believer in the power of the mind.
Taking a construct - or reconstruct - the physical creation according to desires, against a build constructs on the basis of biological imperatives (essentially the opposite, and my position) approach? What scenarios does this present us with? More below...

Kimoni:
Question is:Even if science/culture/hormone/anatomy etc expects me to behave in some way due to my gender, can I possibly deviate from it if I work on my mind?
It depends how you mean? If you mean that as a woman you should have the chance to join the elite marine corps by passing the exact same requirements as laid down for men. Or a man must not be sneered at if he pursues a career as a nanny, why not? I think there are potential balance and harmony problems even with this type of "equality", but I'm happy for equal opportunity. And, if, over time, most settle into the natural norms of the vast majority as I detailed above, no problem. Although I see instances where this is not the case and proving deleterious.

But on the far extreme the story is somewhat different. It leaves us with men claiming they are women and undergoing degrees, or a mix of surgical intervention and and therapeutic treatment, whereby they become "transwomen". But insist that socially and legally they are real women and must be treated as such.

And things as basic as language, what we understand as marriage, sporting divisions, restroom use etc. must all change to accommodate these now "legitimate constructs". There is also the potential for tension and conflict between those who agree and those who don't. Culture wars.

It means that desires considered a result of a mental disorder, are now considered legitimate, hence morally right and pursuable - check out Body Integrity Identity Disorders.


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FamilyRe: Why Do Married Women Have To Be Addressed As Mrs? by TV01(m):
njokusboy:
Lol, babanla....
cheers bro'

Bolade005:
TV posted pictures of himself (real African bushmeat I must say) and his family, the brother is so proud of his family and that's obvious.
Danke sir

shaybebaby:
Let me give you a bit of context, TV has cast aspersions on my ex because we are divorced, they are BOTH fathers, hence my pics... This is what my child's father is about.
TV had nothing to say about your husband. Neither did I cast anything on him due to his divorce. You claimed all the glory for that yourself undecided.


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FamilyRe: Why Do Married Women Have To Be Addressed As Mrs? by TV01(m): 12:49pm On Jul 28, 2016
njokusboy:
Lol.....
Why aren't you proud of yourself for starters...
TV is posting pictures of himself and not of his ex-wifes mother...
Plus, there's nothing joining you with those pple, aside a child they'd rather have sole custody of... Common, their son divorced you, sorry, you divorced their son... They Prolly don't even like you....
You were right the first time dude...where do you even start to reason with such incoherence?....anyway sha...see lineage cool


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FamilyRe: Why Do Married Women Have To Be Addressed As Mrs? by TV01(m): 11:55am On Jul 28, 2016
Timbuktou:
They might still love each other Na. Or the other guy is a cuckold. These people do exist.
Bro', it was the "c" word that went through my mind when I read that post. It's why I remembered it. I mean come on tongue

shaybebaby:
And you don't hate? With all that? Lmao. Imma leave that up there so you can keep referring to it. Enjoy choking on your bile. cool cool Turkey lasan lasan and we will not hear word.
So far, you have had the pleasure of viewing TV' butt in Turkey, Gambia and Jamaica cool.


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FamilyRe: Why Do Married Women Have To Be Addressed As Mrs? by TV01(m): 11:46am On Jul 28, 2016
shaybebaby:
oh a reversal now, shebi na you dey talk say I want African bush meat?
No reversal. Cute kid. I say it as it is. I don't make-believe non-existent trauma to prove a non-point. And one womans meat is another womans poison wink

shaybebaby:
Thought I'd show you what my culinary taste is like and you can see how you compare. grin grin
How I compare? to a doughy white bloke with a receding hairline, wearing an ill-fitting suit that you used your own mouth to trash grin. He couldn't even make the effort to shave for an audience with HRH?

shaybebaby:
Which one do you want to see, my son's pics in Morocco, France, lake Shkodra, or should I wait till next year to show you his Vegas pictures? Nonsense!
Post whatever, that's totally down to you...we don't hate. We celebrate cool.


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FamilyRe: Why Do Married Women Have To Be Addressed As Mrs? by TV01(m): 11:34am On Jul 28, 2016
Timbuktou:
Mumu. Post your hideousness make we see, you dey famz strangers. Are you so ashamed of your ugliness? Show us your achievements and that of your own forebears. Typical woman, bringing nothing to the table. Achievement by proxy expert. grin
Abi? When they realised she would actually stain the lineage they quickly got shot of her. The reality - as she has clearly shown - is that they are related to the boy, not to her. His family, not yours.

What's even funnier, claiming to have a "current", but talking about my big black butt with her "ex". Do you think any man in his right mind wants to dwell on another mans fundament tongue
shaybebaby:
Please don't, was just telling my ex about it.. Being trolled with butt pics.
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