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Timbuktou:Undeniable fact Timbuktou:...in some parts it was the fact that the state had the right to conscript men into the army that meant they got the vote. Women were not conscriptable - that is were never called upon to lay down their lives in defence of their countries (as ever it was men doing just that in protection of women and children ). The vote wasn't a male privilege, it was the quid pro quo for male responsibility.As you noted, there was one vote per household/family - the man as head typically cast it. men without famlies/homes did not get to vote either. When the vote was made universal, there was very little, if any time, between all men and all women getting it. Don't fall for deceitful feminist revisionism. TV |
Timbuktou:Ultimately I'm not sure it matters if they see it. I'm sure some probably do, but don't see beyond it - which is key. The pre-occupation with their feelings and well-being mean they will rather remain in denial, even if clearly outlined to them. Ultimately there wil lbe a backlash - not necessarily physical - driven someway by men opting out of a zero value proposition. As ever, women and children will bear the brunt, so many women will finally "get it" and probably fight hard to reverse the feminsit madness. Order will be restored. The tried and tested, all round beneficial Patriarchy will be restored. As ever, because women want it as much if not mores so than men !When this will happen or how much damage will be done before this takes place, I cannot say. For now, men of understanding need to take a firm stand and continue to run their families along sound patriarchal principles. Timbuktou:And it's the abuse that will rot society so badly that there will have to be a re-think - somehow, some way. It will simply become unsustainable, and the damage to male/female relationships and wider society will be undeniable. Right now they are still managing to sell - an untrue - story of female emancipation and empowerment (of which the sum effect appears to be sluttiness and butt implants ).Commander TV |
cococandy:...on the contrary, gays are the worst misogynists. Any pallying up with women is purely "strategic". They are also extremely racist and ageist, as would be expected given how narcisitic the lifestyle is. How are you? I trust well. TV |
tobechi74: tobechi74:This is odd? If you hate marriage, why are you advising on "visiting the brides family"? Why even consider it, let alone enter into it? Confusion TV |
Timbuktou:That's end-game dude. Women are ascribed rights with no attendant responsibilities - Just like kids. We are close to it in the West and no doubt some of the "useful idiots" who love to ape things wholesale will soon start clamouring for it in Africa. Accordingly, men have tot fund women (and "their children" ). This will be enforced by state fiat if need be, so that men will pay directly or indirectly. Through child support orders, where no proof is demanded that the money is actually spent on children, and even if the child is not actually his. Or indirectly by taxes. It's telling that even as men are compelled to provide for any child they father - even if against their will - women are allowed to murder them in the womb or abandon them after birth, with absolutely no legal consequences. That is, women can decide against any or all responsibility - from conception to birth - if they so choose, whereas men have no choice and no voice. I watch with interest. TV |
jnrbayano:Jnr! Jnr!! Jnr!!! To be asked to act as best man at a wedding is a great honour. Not only that, but it says much about your considered suitability (or availability ) and the esteem with which you are held in by the person asking.A man should always - where it is not unduly inconvenient - be ready to act in such stead for those he considers friends or family. Taking it with the honour it accords and carrying out the task with the due consideration it deserves. But please, never feel compelled to do so, it should be a joy and a lacklustre performance is a dis-service to all involved. I have been a BM twice, once for a cousin, and once for a friend I've known since we were 10 (started secondary school together). The friend also acted as my best man. You've done a afew, so you shouldn;t have any problems there. Jnr, you're an elder now - it comes with the territory . Striktlymi 'zup with your nuptials? if Jnr flakes on you, I'm available - will deliver the sermon and MC join if you like !I love a wedding ![]() TVMIC |
FrancisTony:Homosexuality is as much a state of mind - you present as gay, deal with it! (fagh-brain as opposed to brain fagh )FrancisTony:...au contraire...and nappies and sanitary towels and butt plugs and... TV |
FrancisTony:The use of the non-word homophobe to close down discussion. Better run, as no one will "pamper" you here ![]() TV |
FrancisTony:You met someone, he was gay and your convo revolved around the use of butt-plugs ![]() FrancisTony:Pun intended abi? ![]() It's not crap, it's shit . Fecal incontinence/leakage caused by anal penetration with large (sometimes living ) objects. It's totally true! - http://www.homosexinfo.org/Sexuality/AnalEroticism read to the end if you get liver!FrancisTony:Yes they do, and tears too. But the vajayjay is designed for penile pounding and typically rights itself with no long-term effects. The anus is not designed thus, penetrating it is defacto bodily abuse, leading to a host of long-term problems. FrancisTony:These are more psychological in nature. Two woman find it hard to bond long-term - they split up even more readily than gay men - and their relationships are the most abusive. FrancisTony:You are decidely naive and confused; significant numbers of AIDS cases in the West was first identified in homosexual men in the US - fact It's not simply because they are promiscuous - promiscous straight men have little chance of getting aids unless the come into direct or indirect contact with MSM. It's due to the nature of "sex" they engage in and their concurrent drug abuse, thus weakening their immune systems and making them more susceptible to opportunistic viral diseases. And yes, they are typically sluts . Come, are you a gay-homosexual?TV |
finofaya:On the contrary, I see no point in circling the semantic point of whether it is natural or not. The question is essentially one of normality/morality. Infanticide happens "naturally" amongst many animal species - would that make it ok for humans? Homosexuality is with us, the question is how do we regard it? Do we embed it with or society and cultural institutions - which is the current push - "homosexualising" things to accomodate it. Do we consider it an aberration, and tolerate but marginalise it, or do we persecute it's practice? Whilst I believe that people who identify as homosexuals or practice homosexuality, should have every opportunity and access, I don't believe the practices or lifestyle should be embedded or celebrated as normal - and specially not in the way we are now seeing, where those who don't subscribe to the notion are persecuted. Homosexuality is not just purposeless, it's harmful. TV |
Logicalmind:"Feelings of attraction" is inborn? Pray tell, how do you come to that conclusion? Babies are born without notions of "sex, sexuality, orientation or desire". There is a normal developmental pathway which should lead to opposite sex desire. Anyting other than that is abnormal. As 5minutesmadness has noted, if feelings of attraction are inborn, why criminalise any kind of attraction - paedophile, beastial, or any paraphilia that is out there? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paraphilia Do you have anything to back up your assertion? TV |
finofaya:High profile gay-homosexual finofaya:At all. finofaya:Bait and switch. In a sense, I have no more "abhorrence" for intercourse with men - as a man - than I do with say a lampost It's not first and foremost about choice, it's foremost about design and purpose. Men - whether you subscribe to creation, evolution, both or nothing at all - are sexually complimentary with women. Not other men - or lamposts .And as to "acting contrary", anyone with a mouth can put a dick in it. It speaks nothing of "orientation", desire, willingness, or anything else. finofaya:Source is "teleleologically" obvious - per my above statement. It's by design. It's de facto abnormal for one not to have opposite sex attraction. finofaya:Another fallacious premise. It's not necessarily a choice - as in flipping a switch. It can be a "path taken" due to a number of events, trauma, impressions etc. There are clear instances of people having chosen to be gay. Likewise there are numerous examples of those who have renounced "homosexuality" for normality. finofaya:Like I said it's not necessarily a choice in the sense of "flipping a switch" (although there have been instances of that also). There are a number of reasons why normal development does not occur. It's worth noting that fully 75% of teens who identify as "homosex", identify as "heterosex" by the age of 24. Even with the aforementiond "trauma, events etc." the normal pathweay is not easily deviaterd from. Note "homosexuals" are 2% of the poulation at best. finofaya:Not wired in the sense that it's "hard-wired" or unchangeable. Is Alcoholism or addiction to cigarrets hard-wired? Or are they unable to be foresaken? And reagrdless of whether you claim it to be inborn or acquired, it remains "abnormal". Statistically and functionally! TV |
crackhaus: ![]() crackhaus:It was an eye-opener and great learning experience - I was promoted from dish washer - and it sure beat washing pots and pans, peeling and chipping potatoes and getting home at 4 in the morning !One of the funniest but truest pieces of advice pops used ot give was "if you can cook, no woman can take the piss" - so cheffing certainly helped in that way as well. Lets just say the Missus knows the score !Commander TV |
RAKITIC:No it is not. The saying about single men being irresponsible and married men being responsible is not technically true. But...and this is the noteworthy bit...there is a deeper meaning in that saying. A married men - and especially one with children, has a burden of care that is much weightier that that of a single man, and one that he cannot relinquish just anyhow or on a whim. A single man rarely feels this burden or has tied responsibility in the same way - even though he may well have many responsibilities. Hence, married men tend to be focused - whether they like it or not - by this burden of responsibility. That's not to say all married men "take this burden" they have, or that single men are not able to. It's just that single men do not necessarily have it in the same way. An exception may be where a single man has memebers of his family he is responsible for. He will appear as a married man in terms of his burden and mien .TV |
veave:...but you are learning se? Hence signifying a "desire too" at some point. My prayer holds! TVMIC |
veave:Trouble ke? Me You know I make sense die - even trolling .veave:And thank you very much for proving my point; TV01:All the best in your search. May you land a better spouse. And do let us know; I love a good love story. TVMIC |
Joy1706:Your boyfriend would be best served by changing his girlfriend before marriage !TVMIC |
finofaya:Everyone is wired to be "straight" - it's by design. If you are otherwise "oriented", you are faulty - by default. Whether you argue the fault was from birth or acquired afterwards. Who takes that raging poofter Dan Savage seriously? Whatever you decide your "orientation", sex, "gender" or even desire, does not impair anybody' ability to "take a male member into ones mouth". It's a choice, not dependent on anything else. All sucking it would tell us is that he has a mouth. Faulty design, flawed logic. TV |
Elsquidme:First of all, unless there is a medical reason, there is nothing stopping intimacy during pregnancy. When Jnr was taking his time, the Dr even reccomended it as a way to induce labour. It didn't work sha - maybe I needed to go deeper - eventually he was medically induced.Secondly, abstinence for any period whilst your wife is unable or uncomfortable should be something accepted willingly - joyfully even - as part of your service to her. Thirdly, you don't have rights in the way you make it appear. Is your wife a leasehold property (actually don't answer that ). Your wife also has rights and you both have responsibilities. And "your rights" should always be considered in light of your spouses wellbeing and the longer term good of the marriage.Fourthly, others have touched on alternatives - where you are both comfortable and happy to do so !Fifthly, enjoy your marriage TVMIC |
Timbuktou:Word perfect! And woe betide the wife if she maintains communication with the mother !TV |
...who cares? My wife, mother, MIL, wifey' sisters, female cousins & friends all know that if their "tension" for one second impairs my utility they will get "commanded". I have other things to concern myself with besides female pettiness. TVMIC |
...it is right for a man to command not just his wife, but his whole household. That's how we do !Genesis 18:19 For I know him, that he will command his children and his household after him... TVMIC |
Woged2005:If your advice is good for women above 30, why is it not sound for those below? Although I was responding t-i-c, not only is your premise poor, it is also discriminatory and somewhat denigratory - as you've qualified it as for "beautiful ladies". My point was that the campaign should start earlier and the advice should be universally applicable. I hope those eyes are positioned on a burriful face !TVMIC |
crackhaus:Morning Bro', I can't but agree. Whatever the absolute or relative differences between males and females in terms of intelligence, I don't think it is an issue. The real differences tend to be biological and social imperatives; 1. Women will always want to/have to make allowance for thier fertility constraints & child-bearing 2. If it's mentally or physically arduous men generally have an edge and a naturally greater inclination - even if #1 is not a factor It's glaring in a lot of proffessions; even the best chefs are men. I was a commis chef for a while. Standing in front of a hot oven for hours on end - very long shifts. Often burning, cutting or otherwise injuring yourself. Throwing heavy pots around (and multi-tasking ). The environments are also very bullish. Women would start in numbers, but many would flake along the way.At the end of the day, I don't see it as that much as an issue, as typically that outperforming male is using what he produces to provide for a family. crackhaus:Whic is one reason I bother; in pursuit of some imaginary equality/inclusinveness nirvana built on nothing but touchy-feely ideology, they risk doing great harm to the family. They can always take their case direct to "Mother Nature". However, if anyone has anything other than slogans and slurs (or gifs and emoticons), we'll be here to respond - hopefully they won't find it too "arduous" ![]() Make I go troll jor ![]() TVMIC Correction; in my original post I noted 60% of female Dr's leave or go part-time. That should be 60% leave (within 10 years). A number of the 40% that remain go part-time. |
...apologies Ewuro4, I'm piggybacking - but I'mn sure you'll respond if you care too. 5minsmadness:All of which are contradicted by your OP In which you prescribe legitimising infidelity as the remedy to the pain unfaithfulness causes. If there is an expectation of faithfulness which is broken, whether unfaithfulness is criminalised, decriminalised, legitimised or even celebrated, the damage it does will not change. Some things are beyond the remit of the law or state. Please re-think and re-state. TV |
5minsmadness:Right off the bat you are twice wrong; a. Most of the strife in relationships is not due to unfaithfulness, the #1 cause of strife is financial issues b. Unfaithfulness is a character issue, determine a persons character and desires - i.e. if there is a match - for a relationship before commiting 5minsmadness:Love takes many forms and occurs in many relationships, but erotic love is validated in only one kind. And if you are basing your arguemnt on the scriptures, you have either articulated it incorrectly or failed to rightly apply the scriptures. Also, the "egusi soup" analogy is very weak !5minsmadness:It's self-evident, divorce, out of wedlock births, promiscuity etc. 5minsmadness:Whatever egregious attitudes people have or actions they commit with regards to sex, is not the fault of sex. It's the fault of people. Sex is good and holy and essential to our flourishing. You need to re-state and or re-think your premise. TV |
5minsmadness:1. Sex brings many things to relationships, but not strife, hating or backbiting - people do that. Sex does not need to be relegated, rather valued and "morally regulated". 2. If sex were relegated to the background what would be the difference between an intimate male/female relationship and any other kind? Even if relegated, sex comes attached with bonding, feelings and outcomes - i.e. consequences which can't be detached from sex. 3. Societies have long learnt that sex has to be ascribed a moral value and regulated to a degree. If sex becomes merely transactional or a consumable, there will be tremendous harm. To male-female relationships and the natural outcome of those relatiosnhips - children. 4. Sex is not the issue here, people are. Inculcate a proper appreciation of sex, it's rightful context and proper expression. Instill Character, values and morals, so that sex - and people - are treated with the due care that they should be. Or perhaps I should ask how you see this working out - especially in a sense of improving things ![]() TV |
MasterJayJay:Most responses so far have esentially been a cry of "sexism" (against women) and have only served to stifle the discussion. No real debate has been had. In practice most "families" would want to do the best for all their children and allow them to pursue education as far as their talent and desire allows. But in a scenario where there are limited resources (at societal or family level), I would favour educating males over females. Even where "resources" at first dont appear to be an issue, there can be longer-term implications. Let's take Doctors (MD's) for example; in the UK fully 60% of female Dr's stop practicing or only work part-time. The effect, twice as many females doctors have to be trained to maintian service levels; at great cost to the state (approx. £250K p/s). The outcome, a deteriorating provision of GP services. Previously one could always get an appointment for same or following day, nowadays appointments have to be made weeks in advance. Many now simply head for hospital A&E's, clogging up what should be an emergency service. Yes, there are other factors but the fact that women are now filling about 60% of medical places (up from around 10% in the 60's) is a major contributor. And what happens to the 60% that "fall away"- they are typically at home playing "alabado" to some wealthy bloke . Women typically marry up, so a high status female Dr, will typically marry a high-flyer, thus not really needing to work when children come.Additionally, some of the harder medical specialisations are suffering shortages, as women tend to opt for the easier ones or become GP's that more easily allow flexible working. Other studies show that even where female Dr's are practicing F/T they don't put the hours in that men do. It's not always about gender, equality or choice per se, it's about outcomes. Put another way, the cost/value benefit of training male Dr's far exceeds that of training females. Where there are scarce resources, or the danger of not be able to maintain an adequate service, what should be done? Whilst I don't for one second think that women shouldn't be educated, or have equal access, there are oft times longer-term costs and consequences. Shrill ideological cant does not change that. TV |
Woged2005:All wrong . At least give me "partly" ![]() Why should a lady "above 30" settle? As a man - way above 30 - I refused to consider; 1. Divorcees 2. Single mums 3. Anyone not young, nubile and eye-wateringly hot 4. At least 10 years younger than me to boot 5. Minimum degree educated In addition, I had a host of others; non-smoker, no drinker, must exercise, on-point phoné, no tattoos, no abortions. Not to mention she had to be a Christian. The only two parallels we have are; I was not overly fussed about earnings - as long as she had an occupation, and mentoring is expected from a husband-leader. Neither was I overly fussed about cooking funnily enough, but she's trying !Appreciate the market value of a female over 30 - especially relative to a man of the same age - dips in a sense, but you are saying things - howerver true - that are anathema to some here. I totally get your point - but I would campaign before it becomes an issue, not after. TVMIC |
....i.e. lower your expectations - and at 30 Most men haven't even fully formed theirs at that age. And I would never advise a man to lower his expectations - at any age - although I would check for realism. The feeling of having settled can cause real disenhancement and frustation, leading to real long-term damage to a union. I'd love to tag some peeps on this, but lets see if they make their own way here .TV Woged2005: |
Great piece. Really heart-warming and encouraging. There was another one yesterday about the 80 year-odd marriage. The Family section could do with at least one of these a day. Great stuff! TVMIC |
MizMyColi: Chrystover:Not really, stopping marriage will stop abuse. Most abuse - a greater amount of - takes place in non-marital domestic relationships. Marriage remains the saferst form of relationship for women and children - and by extrapolation men. TVMIC |
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