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CNKENCHOR:
No. i packaged a group tour for my 15 clients as a way of improving there travel history so the Visa was issued by the Tanzania Emabassy in Abuja for the trip. Nothing like fake here in there visa. Please i need more insight about this..... because i have other person who are planning summer trip to Tanzania. thank you

You very clearly admitted that obtaining that visa was for fraudulent intent, so why are you surprised at the outcome?

Ykb2k:
Good evening ledies and gentleman... Please I need your advice please...I apply last year as single but now I wanted to change it to married.. Which am not Married yet..because I thought that's the reason I was denied last year.last year I apply for vacation... But now am going for church convention... With invitation letter...also am above 30 years old... Should I live the single on my last profile or I should change it to marriage.. If I change it to married hope they will not ask for my marriage certificate... Please I need your reply.
Thanks.

The help you seek is not here. This thread is for serious and honest Nigerians.

eyinola:
This is what u always say on every USA visa section and yet u refuse to come back to Nigeria.. Mind u this is visiting thread for non immigrants not poeple like u who God knows how u entre us and refuse to come back but instead always codem people here and there

Majority of those here are also seeking to never return to Nigeria so drop the sanctimonious claptrap.

BabaRamota1980:
Americans place emphasis and value on a capitalist society. Go and review all different nations that go to America and compare with our 64000 application. Also, compare approval rates per 1000 applicants.

They are screwing us because instead of bring them to terms we continue to bend over to be impaled by their insulting disregard.

People like you add, faulting our character add to the problem.

They are not screwing us... the cost for a visa application is the same as we charge them. That’s the principle of reciprocity, I assumed everyone knew that.

They are not screwing us... we have a choice to refuse to apply for a visa.

We bend over because our country is not worth living in. That isn’t their fault.

Our character is why we are desperate to go to their country. Until we come to terms with that fact, we are never going to improve.

The idea that your N64,000 should guarantee you a visa is farcical. You should come take a look at your nigerian consulate in NY - which charges the same visa fee. The US consulate is like heaven compared to it.

BabaRamota1980:
Thank you my dear sister.

332,000 denials! It will be nice to know total number of new intakes for 2017 so we can get a peek into how badly US Embassy is screwing us, at 64000 naira per applicant!

The refusals alone is over 20billion naira per year. Thats just for non-immigrant. How about applications for immigrants, what does that report look like.

This is why im upset The refusals need to be far less than that. Nigeria ought to have a classification of "Preferred Magnet Area" for US visitors and immigrants.

No. Nigerians simply need to stop applying for United States visas, if they are that upset. No one is forcing you.

honeyoluwatoyin:
are you telling me everyone that was denied av got bad character?...as at the time I was hustling for US visa I wasn't givin despite my travel exp and I'm sure some of you will tell me its cos you are single #nonsense...I eventually got it as single wit the same info I've been given them... nothing changes ..USA visa approval is favor unless if your leg strong ... else.. fill your form right...know your reason for traveling ..have a tie (tie can be nything,even your 1year job is a tie) and most important PRAY for favor...... my close friend got her visa on a virgin passport... single,first time applicant and jobless as at the time she applied ..

Pray for favor from whom?

BabaRamota1980:
My brother when it comes to character Americans are worse. If our society has a good centralized database with updated info it wont be this bad. From what i read here so far, given my short acquaintance with this process, im led to believe ties to Nigeria is not a guaranteed security to rwturn home or to get visa. The issue these VOs have is cultural. I will elaborate.

I have a cousin that lived in US for many years and returned home after retirement from govt work to set up a consultancy here. He said they lost power one year during storm and the whole city went into panic mode like the world was ending.

The Americans trust mechanized syshumanand interaction more than they trust human interaction.

They place high value on instrumentation, and when it fails their reliability on human input depletes.

If we had a central database system they know will spew out information they are looking for they will have less issue with trust.

Its not our problem that we dont have a system they can interact with, we are in our native land....they need to adapt to what we have and speed our application approval process for a better andpositive outcomes.

Dont shade our character....blame the Americans for loosing touch with humanity.

This was a sad excuse for systematic corruption and ineptitude. It is impossible for you to ask Americans to ignore the disorganized chaos and lack of planning that our society reflects (in the name of it being our native land) while lecturing them to “speed our application approval process”. How do you want them to speed things up? By using google? It is not their fault too.

I don’t think Americans are too concerned about your native land, they simply want you to stay there. Why are you rushing to flood theirs?

honeyoluwatoyin:
sorry but I just have to quote your response ... its bullshit....why would she be saying value of her business when she wasn't asked.... I'm sorry but I just have to say this .. over sabi too much on this nairaland and I can bet my life some of you guys commenting can still go back there and be denied ... as for you applicant I can only advice you try again another time .... so many times your good intentions, ties back home and confidence doesn't grant you the visa . Everything is at the discretion of the consulate ... just be hopeful and pray to meet the right person ...

I would go a step further and say that asking others to "pray" to meet the right person is also bull. If everything is at the discretion of the consulate, why do you then need to pray? The only reason we have such a difficult time at the US embassy is that we cannot be trusted to tell the truth. Japanese citizens do not need to "pray" to meet the right person at a US consulate. They fly visa free.

Our problem isn't prayer or a lack of it, but a lack of character.

ijoka:
Please someone help me on this information., i learnt that police now check people immigrant status in the US and that if you are stop by police and ur status is not legally Right then you will be jailed and the deported immediately..

Not always. If you are within 100 miles of a US border, then they have legal authority to ask for your legal status. In certain states though, the police can report you to ICE if they find out you are illegal.

If you are here legally, that should not concern you.

sumbo5:
Myself, husband and two kids got US Visa in 2016 and we have not travelled to US with the visa though we have been to UK three times.
Now my husband wants to go alone and we are scared he may be returned, kindly advice.
Then if we do not go at all, is it possible for us to renew the visa from drop box.

CC: LadyGuinivere
Justwise
Twoods
OmoBendel24
seyewest

No cause for alarm

cristianisraeli:
why not allow him give his own point before you disagree..i hate over sabi people like you and you are just like the moderator of travel section.nonsense

You don’t hate over sabi people, you simply hate that others are here and you aren’t. Underlying much of the noise here is an overwhelming sense of disappointment and jealousy.

I find it funny that you were more upset about me giving an opinion than the op who I replied to.

evelynne20:
Good evening everyone..... please, I need your opinion concerning this course which is English language and literature. I Was delayed twice last year cos d vo told me I cannot be a lecturer with this course. My problem is I have made research and av realized lecturing is also one of d careers under this course. I need your opinion and assistance as I will be going back to the embassy with this same course. Please please please

What are your job prospects in Nigeria with a degree in English language? Your inability to clearly articulate this is your issue.

Jabioro:
Well,the new name couples with chemitry analysis,make it sound,look different,the propthyne,enthyene,hydrogenerate carbons are rooted from crude oil.All motor oil base are source frm crude oil..the refine justified the end result .

All motor oils are based on crude oil but there is a difference. The crude oil-based lubes are severely refined distillates from crude. Synthetic oils (also known as poly alpha olefins) are long chain polymers of alpha olefins like hexene.

You would not make them from alkynes.

Some synthetic oils could also be made from esters as well.

Jabioro:
Conventional oil is made from (base) crude oil and the synthetic oil is made from what source? OP you forgot this,let us know pls.

Synthetic oils are made by polymerizing short chain olefins and then hydrogenating them.

Saldway:
Or would it be better the lady that had her baby in maripoca writes the consular officer before reapplying? It could be possible the various hospitals give discounts to attract more patients, as there could be stiff competition in this regard. Besides, cash is king! Instead of haggling with insurance companies which is the order of the day. Let all just hope and pray dem VOs' understand.

They don’t read the letters, it would be a waste of time.

MadameU:
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Sorry, I opted to respond to you here rather than the US visit visa thread so as not to derail it.

The problem is actually in the links you posted... in the first link, the Maricopa Integrated Healthcare System (MIHS) is clearly identified as a "public, safety-net hospital". Well what does this mean? A safety-net hospital is one that is required to receive Medicaid DSH payments because it serves a high share of low-income patients. See explanation in this link - http://www.commonwealthfund.org/publications/fund-reports/2017/jun/financial-impact-ahca-on-safety-net-hospitals

Now if you go to the MIHS maternity package plan agreement, it very clearly states this - "This plan is limited to Maricopa County residents, and does not have any income requirements." Maricopa county defines residency as "U.S. citizen, or in lawful status, lived in Maricopa County for 50 days, and lived in Arizona for at least one year". You definitely did not qualify to be a resident of the county and thus should have been ineligible for the lower cost package.

As I have mentioned here, much to the chagrin of many, there is a reason "self-pay" costs are low. These hospitals are considered most accessible to low income residents. These hospitals get reimbursed by Medicaid. So even though you are not dependent on Medicaid directly, you are benefiting indirectly.

The VOs know this, considering they also pay for the exact same services... at thousands of dollars more than you are being charged! I don't blame them for being skeptical. You're paying for child delivery services at a rate cheaper than it would cost to spend a night or two in a hospital fixing a broken bone for the average American.

i had mentioned to you earlier i never claimed residency or lived in Maricopa before i contacted the facility, I contacted the hospital from Nigeria and clearly asked if they accepted international patients,to which they responded in the affirmative and sent me the maternity package. We had no discussion on my income furthermore my appointment to see the facility was 2 days after my arrival in the US at the time and theres no way i would have been offered a plan for residents after i had just arrived and without a state ID. i also asked if medicaid was paying any part of the bills and they stated no.see the first page of package plan doc below
however i say it you have your impression and would

Hmm interesting. It could be the VO is only privy to the copy of the agreement currently online. Take your copy of that agreement with you when you reapply. Try again... you should rightfully not be penalized if there’s no evidence you used public assistance.

MadameU:
Beautyaddy i have also responded to your assertions on that thread as well. You have it wrong. I was offered the package when i contacted the hospital from Nigeria, stating i wanted to know about their prices for birthing. i never posed as a resident of maricopa county.

It is not their responsibility to find out where you are calling from and thus determine if you are eligible for the package or not. it is your responsibility to read the agreement that you signed. As I mentioned above, that agreement limits eligibility to county residents only.

MadameU:
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Sorry, I opted to respond to you here rather than the US visit visa thread so as not to derail it.

The problem is actually in the links you posted... in the first link, the Maricopa Integrated Healthcare System (MIHS) is clearly identified as a "public, safety-net hospital". Well what does this mean? A safety-net hospital is one that is required to receive Medicaid DSH payments because it serves a high share of low-income patients. See explanation in this link - http://www.commonwealthfund.org/publications/fund-reports/2017/jun/financial-impact-ahca-on-safety-net-hospitals

Now if you go to the MIHS maternity package plan agreement, it very clearly states this - "This plan is limited to Maricopa County residents, and does not have any income requirements." Maricopa county defines residency as "U.S. citizen, or in lawful status, lived in Maricopa County for 50 days, and lived in Arizona for at least one year". You definitely did not qualify to be a resident of the county and thus should have been ineligible for the lower cost package.

As I have mentioned here, much to the chagrin of many, there is a reason "self-pay" costs are low. These hospitals are considered most accessible to low income residents. These hospitals get reimbursed by Medicaid. So even though you are not dependent on Medicaid directly, you are benefiting indirectly.

The VOs know this, considering they also pay for the exact same services... at thousands of dollars more than you are being charged! I don't blame them for being skeptical. You're paying for child delivery services at a rate cheaper than it would cost to spend a night or two in a hospital fixing a broken bone for the average American.

MadameU:
Hi everyone im new to this thread. i just began reading but i thought to seek info and counsel from folks that may be able to help. i was refused a visa in 2016 while tryiing to renew. At the time the officer refused me because she thought the hospital bill i paid for labour and delivery was low. i had used the Maricopa maternity package which cost 2300 dollars. (i didnt use medicaid) . i hear that some other ladies that had similar issues have been issued. i really dont know who they are and what they did differently that helped turn around their previous refusals.
Now that i intend to renew again please any tips/advice would be super appreciated.Thanks

But are you sure your bill wasn’t low because the package is reimbursed by Medicaid? $2300 for a delivery is way too low. Someone somewhere is carrying the can for the difference.

hopeful2008:
Sorry bro that was how my hubby was so angry when we were denied last year and he said he is not going to that embassy again....
I think somehow they missed it cause I know people who have no intention of coming back being granted visa and genuine people are being turned back..

So it really isn’t the fault of the VO. They have no way of knowing who wants to run or not so the genuine end up as collateral damage. We have only ourselves to blame.

charlesazeh:
I need to take my kids on vacation or its now seen as running

You don’t have to take them on vacation to the United States

Saldway:
Good day people,
Pls how do you handle a case of someone that gave birth twice in the US, paid all her bills and collected zero balance letter. Subsequently applied for renewal via drop box and was invited for interview.
The interview asked for all the receipts , she gave all itemised and zero balance letters, he jist flipped through and tlsaid to her you were given discount of over 9k. She responsed that she was self pay ans the hospitals usually give discount to self pay international patients.
The vo looked at the birth certificate and told her you said you are resident there that is why the birth certificate has a u.s address on it. She said no, not at all that she said she is international and even gave the hospital her passport. That the address on the birth certificate and even receipts were for correspondence since they asked for a local address incase they want to post things, that they dont post internationally. He went ahead to deny her. She calles the hospitals and they said she is not owing them as stated in her zero balance letter.
Pls whp can she talk to?

Basically the VO is indicating that you lied that you were a US resident and that this is likely what contributed to the large discount you received. Claiming US residency to scam the system is a serious charge. There is nothing you can do other than apply again and hope to get a sympathetic VO. Too often Nigerians like to think they are smart.

larex007:
Hello House..... My Anuty husband invite me to her surprise birthday. I filled my Anuty as my sponsorship..
She and her husband are using joint account. Am thinking of telling my Anuty and informing her. The VO may decide to contact her.. My interview is tomorrow in Abuja.

First off, your basis for visiting the United States (surprise birthday) is not strong at all. Secondly, you don’t have much money to afford the trip. It will cost you up to 25% of you annual gross pay, assuming you’re sponsoring yourself. It makes no sense that a husband will spend that much money to bring to simply attend a surprise birthday party for his wife. Third, you’re 30, unmarried, with a job you can easily leave.

Nothing tells me you’re going to get the visa.

matex97:
na true story i dey talk bro. no be fiction at all. the husband no get complete papers also for canada where him dey stay. by the way she wants permanent residence visa and not a visit visa

Chances that your aunt will ever get a Canadian visa, after 13 years of trying and failing, are slim to none.

hopeful2008:
Good evening all. Just started following this travel section late last year. We were at the embassy in Jan 2017 as a family and we were denied. Here goes our transcript :
Vo: Goodmorning
Hubby: Goodmorning
Vo: passport pls
Hubby gives him all four passport
Vo noticed my hubby just renewed his 2yrs UK visa and he took his passport and went to check something out.
Vo: directed his question at me have you travelled outside the country before?
Me:yes pls
Vo: When?
Me: 2014
Vo: Where
Me:UK
Vo took our passport and confirmed the previous travel visa.
Vo: What are you going to do in the US?
Hubby: we re going get on vacation
VO: Where?
Hubby:Houston
Vo: Any family in Houston?
Hubby:No
Vo: What would you do there
Hubby : we would visit bla bla bla
Vo: what do you do
Hubby: I work with bla bla
Vo: as what
Hubby:Sales manager
Vo: typing as he was asking and drinks from a water bottle while just staring at us
Vo:How much do you earn
Hubby: bla bla I also earn commission and quarterly pay amounting to bla bla
Vo: So ma'am what do you do
Me: I work with bla bla bla as bla
Vo: How much do you earn
Me: I told him
[b]Vo: How much do you plan for this trip?
Hubby: without think said 3.5M
Vo: How much do you have in your bank account now
Hubby : 1.8 as at today but I have my quarterly payment for 2 quarters which will come in this week and will raise my Bal to 4.2.
Vo drank again and asked me ma'am can you confirm for me how much your husband has for this trip(I just sensed something wasn't right) I confirm same amount.
[/b]Vo :So how is business right now?
Hubby :said business was fine bla bla bla
Vo: looked at the four of us and said am sorry but you do not qualify for a visa today and hands over the blue paper. Hubby was stunned
We had promised our kids we would take them to the US in April 2017 during the Easter period and my kids didn't understand we were not given visa, they just want a vacation. So I applied for UK visa along with my kids since my hubby had already and we went to the UK for our Easter vacation.
Now we're ready to visit again this time in summer. I want to change our destination to Disney land florida, would this raise any question on why the change of destination and is our ties strong enough to get the visa because we re still going as a family.

looks like the above is where everything went wrong. You can't conceivably be spending more than 70% of your bank balance on a few days vacation, especially when you have kids.

Don't buy a phone line from At&t, Verizon or Sprint

I would disagree with this. Verizon has about the best coverage in the US. Sprint can be quite spotty, though cheap. If you own directv, then you should definitely buy a phone line through AT&T. The lines are expensive for individuals but are worth the money for a family that burns through data. I find I can watch live TV through my phone without it counting against my data plan at all. win win for me.

Clementz0:
WAOW! "HALLELUYAH" IS OUR TRADEMARK! I DONT EXPECT ANYTHING LESS WAOW! "HALLELUYAH" IS OUR TRADEMARK! I DONT EXPECT ANYTHING LESS

Hallelujah isn’t your trade mark, stupidity is. Only in Nigeria are the priciest buildings those belonging to churches... most of whom stay empty except for a few hours on Sunday.

4peace4:
nothing hilarious at all baba them say them no want you here na by force?..common use the exit door!!

You should read the notice at the bottom of this page... no where does it say a bunch of insecure frauds have monopoly here. If you'd prefer to only mingle with you and yours, there are blogs for that. Cheerio...

kinibd:
I can see you have some personal issues and you looking for someone to transfer aggression. Oga like i said if you cant help or give any meaningful advice why dont you mind your business, some people actuay dont mind helping others with information they already have i but not you but dont generalize peering from my high chair to just more than you, i see no 'us', just you some tit in the woods abi twoods.

The more knowledge you get the more you can share i guess you got none to give and even if you did, keep ut to yourself then and grow fat on it.
People please this decision to go to usa for masters in one i just made about a month ago and i was just seeking advise here because i know there will be someone with good experience and all i needed was to be on the right track dont know what this guys problem is.

Hilarious.

I’m sure you feel much better.

30watts:
Thanks for your comments. I have to say it is well written and compliments your efforts to helping others, even the "stupid ones".

Adeish no need to respond to his comments. If you have an unanswered question ask again. There should be someone on the forum that will be willing to provide answers if they have. Alternatively, just search google.

In real life people deal with a lot of stuff they have no solutions to. However, on social media they have a perfect life without problems but if you read between the lines of their aggressive and uncouth contribution to public forums you can tell they are in pain. Visit Instablog Naija dem full there.

Lol I wonder why those of you who aren’t in pain are here, begging desperately. Surely your lives are the paragon of peace you pretend it to be no?

sunshineluv5:
bro pls respond to your pm or if u ave any reason 4 not responding pls inform me instead of keeping me in the dark.Regards

Lol the nerve. I have zero obligation to respond to you.

Aphrodite007:
Literally beating a dead horse!


As we have learned from our lesson from apparently not paying attention to the immigration laws, we should keep quiet and let others make the mistake right?

This is why your comment isn’t adding value dear.

If you like use a megaphone and complain about how we did not read the immigration laws (yes we did not read it, come and beat us!) it would not stop the wonderful effect this thread is having.

There is a UK visa thread here... your thread is having zero effect on it at all... take a peek, your thread has not made a dent on the number of folks obtaining UK study visas... but if it makes you feel good about yourself. The problem remains the same, if folks will not read immigration laws yesterday, neither will your thread convince them to do so. But please...

you complain that others are beating a dead horse... yet here you are, day after day after day, hyperventilating over dead horses.