₦airaland Forum

whizzler:
In as much as reviving the steel complex is a happy news but why Indians with their cheap labour and slavery mentality. It's high time this NA promulgated laws that set standard for wages. It's annoying the way Indians, Lebanese and Chinese make a mockery of us

Read the article again d govt is taking d ajaokuta steel from d indians not d other way round.

macof:
hate? ! listen I can never hate bini
many yorubas in fact see bini as just another distant yoruba subgroup...
In Ife bini kingdom is always prayed for as part of the Yoruba nation so where will my hate come from?


it's you I should be accusing of hatred, you don't like to accept the truth, somehow you(and seems majority of Bini people) are not satisfied with the achievements of bini in its history but want to use lies to claim other things that has no business with bini... imagine the well thought lie of oduduwa coming from bini


it is so disgusting


and now after being exposed for your lies you shamelessly say goodbye

And to u oduduwa came from oke ora, for d next yoruba from d sky, or from mecca or sudan. u dont accuse them of lying wit d disdain u treat d binis, and who say ur opinion is even correct?

ehissi:
Oga Lai Mohammed!! I hail!!

PLs disprove my point, have u been to edo, do u know worker in d lg are paid by d local govt? do u knw this is paid frm d lg account?

Ubenedictus:
ARE WE STILL UNDER D MINISTRATION OF DEATH OR HAS IT BEEN SURPASSED?

blueagent,this is my simple question not d long story above.

Oracle16:
My dear, Queen of heaven is Satanic goddess. The Catholics have been deceived into worshiping false god. The bible also warned us about making images of things in heaven... Catholics bow and pray to images /statues of Mary. The Queen of heaven is not Mary mother of Jesus. She is a demon who's mission is to mislead many. Most of Catholic doctrines, yes I mean the way they worship are not stated in the bible, it is even contrary. Read your Bible and do what your Bible says. Thanks and God bless you.

The bible says no image of heavenly things, yet the temple in jerusalem had images of cherubims, dont u see u are making d bible contradictory?

macof:
We all know the last Oba who's head was buried in Ife is Adolo in 1888
bini didn't deny this, infact the details were declared from your quarters. ..now you want to change story again


after showing you pictures to expose the bini lies that oba doesn't go out or bends to greet anybody. . you have changed ur story



in Oranmiyan is where the ancestry of Oba of Bini lays.. stop embarrassing yourself.
yoruba kingship is bini, oduduwa is bini like bini own Europe abi
or you guys have changed that one now? you don't claim to own Europe anymore?

now i can hear d hate in ur voice clearly, the sacasm does nthing to hide it. When discourse turn dis sour i say gudbye.

Tony5555:
imagine, after all he will said that PDP controversy is God's work. Unable to pay workers' salaries is it God's work?

He has paid workers under d state government.

UnknownT:
Imagine State Government owing Local Government workers. One day the Federal Government should also "swallow" State governments the way they have swallowed local governments

the state govt isnt owing LG worker, the LG governt is owing LG workers, in edo lg funds are paid in d lg accounts.

Branzy:
Saying they are paying salary in Edo state is a big lie, it's only state workers that are been paid not local government workers, which is directly under the control of the state government

pls don't speak on issue u knw little about, edo has local government chairmen and it is one of d few states in nigeria where local govt receive their allocation when it gets to d state account. the state govt hands over LG funds to the LG accounts.
if they have not been paid they know where to go, i.e the local government chairman residence. he is d person holding their money not osho.

iaamxavier:
This is a disgrace to Catholic priest hood y is he involving himself in politics?

y couldn't he see vision about the dwindling economy?

y did he keep mute all this while now he has the gut to open his fuckery mouth to spill all this tramp?

MBAKA uree truly a disgrace to the entire catholics

imagine him saying he met with angel Michael Uriah and the rest! Gosh I'm so angry ryt now

He actualy prophesied about d economy long b4 d electIon, he titled it, oil doom.

martin123:
History will not repeat itself. Obaseki's great great grand father was a traitor to Oba Ovoramwen. Now, we're trying to Enthrone a New Oba, another Obaseki want to be governor. Edo people will not allow him. It is very obvious now that APC is loosing to PDP in Edo State. the Binis will not forget Invasion 1898 in a hurry.

and yet oba eweka decleared that oba erediawa was a reincarnation of cheif obaseki!

stobery:
Nigerians can be funny shaa.. I don laf die
Ordained by which God?

The country at the center is a christian country

isreal is not a christain country.

hardbody:
Freedom of conscience and association are all fundamental human rights enshrined in the constitution. Although those rights must be exercised having due regards to other people's rights, but since religious organisations are dressing in line with their uniforms, traditional religion is also a recognised faith, which is why they swear oaths in court with either a gun or the machete.

As things are, they will be within their rights to come in with their regalia

I suggest white chalk around the left eye
Cowries as beads on a red cloth like bandana
Red cloth tied around the chest and flowing to the ground
Rattle
Half broken calabash with funny looking things inside
Any other charms and amulets that they can think of.

At common law, you counter illegality with illegality, let us see who will remain in class.

hehehe

macof:
will you keep quiet! oranmiyan descendant of Owodo? you can lie


oranmiyan was the last son of Oduduwa.
and oduduwa before becoming Ooni was a local yoruba man living with his clan on the hill called Oke-Ora at the outskirts of Ile-Ife towards Ijesa.

your ignorance in Yoruba history coupled with the fact that many yoruba due to not being brought up the traditional way don't know core historical details, makes you cook up all sorts of fantasies and call them yoruba history.

you should be making research on where your prince elekaderan died

Lol, oduduwa is nolonger from mecca or sudan or egypt, or kenya or from d sky, now he is from oke ora according to macof personal oral history. next u will tell us he was ur village person. keep shifting his origin

The pastor dey wash una head.

When David saw the ark he rejoiced and said,
"How can the ark of the Lord come to me?"
Elizabeth uses almost the same words: "Why isthis granted me, that the mother of my Lord
should come to me?" Luke is telling us
something—drawing our minds back to the Old Testament, showing us a parallel. When David approached the ark he shouted
out and danced and leapt in front of the ark.
He was wearing an ephod, the clothing of a
priest. When Mary, the Ark of the New
Covenant, approached Elizabeth, John the
Baptist leapt in his mother’s womb—and John was from the priestly line of Aaron. Both leapt and danced in the presence of the ark. The Ark of the Old Covenant remained in the
house of Obed-edom for three months, and
Mary remained in the house of Elizabeth for
three months. The place that housed the ark for three months was blessed, and in the
short paragraph in Luke, Elizabeth uses the
word blessed three times. Her home was
certainly blessed by the presence of the ark
and the Lord within. When the Old Testament ark arrived—as when Mary arrived—they were both greeted with shouts of joy. The word for the cry of Elizabeth’s greeting is a rare Greek word used in connection with Old Testament liturgical ceremonies that were centered around the ark and worship (cf. Word Biblical Commentary, 67). This word would flip on the light switch for any knowledgeable Jew. The ark returns to its home and ends up in Jerusalem, where God’s presence and glory is revealed in the temple (2 Sm 6:12; 1 Kgs 8:9-11). Mary returns home and eventually ends up in Jerusalem, where she presents God incarnate in the temple (Lk 1:56; 2:21-22).

JMAN05:
You see people run into problem in trying to establish antitype. The bible never identified mary as the ark of God. You said he carried the law giver, while the ark carried the law. Even if you say she carried the law and law giver, the ark only carried the tablet containing the ten commandment alone NOT the law giver. Joseph had access to mary, while the ark has to be approached by a high priest who undergo a ceremonial cleansing. Joseph should not have been qualified to marry her.

If you have no scripture where she is called ark of God or where she was identified as a prophetic antitype, the discussion should be over cos I wont be discussing what does not exist.

Unlike Mary, Sarah was identified as the Jerusalem above, which is the wife of God. We read:

Gal. 4:26 "But the Jerusalem above is free, and she is our mother". In other words, Sarah is even the one identified by the bible as the anti-typical wife of God. read verse 22 also. verse 31 says "So, brothers, we are children, not of a servant girl, but of the free woman".

That is what the scripture says. Mary was never shown as an antitype of the Ark. Even if she was the ark (tho she is not), Joseph did no wrong by sleeping with her, after all, Abraham slept with antitypical wife of God.



I asked, since he was already existing in heaven as the son of God, what sense is there to emphasize what mary did. As if mary brought him to life. Remember that Joseph is his fleshly father as mary is his fleshly mother. Joseph should also be the father of God, and also the husband of ur God's mother. Joseph is even in a better position to call her my baby mama. He has already been God's son in heaven. Dont you think so?



Dont you think you are making emphasis on something God himself did not emphasize? Is it not better to know God's view thru His word? Israelites were God's dedicated holy nation. make no mistake about it. But God allowed them to marry. meaning that what is dedicated to God does not mean that marriage or sex defiles them. That is God's view. It is good not be over righteous than God. God sets standard of what is right and wrong, not we. God had not stated that when any who is dedicated to him sleeps with a man, she condemned. Jesus still calls his bride virgin even though they do get married. Dont establish your own standard.

Like I said, both Joseph and Mary were all in a dedicated nation of Israel, mary alone was not the dedicated one. (and am yet to see where the scripture said she was specially dedicated to God. Show me if there is or is it another of ur standard?)

2. You are now emphasizing the theory that she gave birth to a God, that that is the main thing. However, your op is holding on to the belief that Mary is the wife of God. And that having relation with her is a big error (no bible proof). You even went further to draw an analogy with David and his wife. That any who went to take his wife and sleep with her, is as if he wants to usurp the authority of the king (I want to add that David would never even give his wife to another man for marriage). That is the point under discussion. So dont shift it.

In that vein, is it taking his sovereignty when ur God's wife was married by another person, Joseph? The marriage itself is a big factor cos king david would not allow someone else to even marry his wife, because he knows that marriage will afford them sex. Never! In fact God himself by His standard will view it as adultery. But did He view that of Joseph as such? Isnt God's standard better than our's? (ie assuming Mary was called God's wife).

And I have shown that according to God's standard (as oppose to urs), those He marries are not exonerated from marriage and sex. Thats God's view.

In summary:

- God never ban his 'wives' from being married and having sex. eg the Israelites and the bride of Christ married and had relations. Although Mary is never identified as God's wife.

- That one is the temple of God does not mean he cant get married and have relations eg True Christian saints are bride of Christ but they marry. compare Matt 23:16-21

- That one is an antitype of something dear to God does not mean she cannot marry. eg Sarah was an antitype of God's woman, but she married and had relations. Although the bible never identified Mary as an antitype of the Ark.

did sarah also give birth to god? Antitypes are prey across infact the old testamentt iss simply a shadow of the new, it is full of types and antityypes. If u study wwell they are easy to draw.

Sarassin:
Quite simply I don’t agree with any of this. Matthew 13:55 amongst others, demonstrates clearly that Mary was not a perpetual virgin because Jesus had brothers. What is more, there is not a shred of evidence to prove that these were merely Joseph's children from a prior or later marriage.

I do not accept your claim that the Greek word for “brother” is not specific enough and could mean “cousin.” or other relatives, in these instances the Greek word adelphos can only mean brother. Your claim is predicated on the fact that in Aramaic, there is no word for “cousin,” so the word for “brother” was used instead.

But Greek does indeed have a word for "cousin," anepsios, which is used in Colossians 4:10 to describe the relationship between Barnabas and Mark. Paul, who wrote Colossians, and evidently knew the word for "cousin", did not apply it to James, the Lord's "brother", in Galatians 1:19. Matthew and Luke also wrote their gospels in Greek, and they definitely had a word for "cousin" at their disposal. They didn't use it because it would have been inaccurate, these were Jesus' real brothers.

But let’s assume that the word “cousin” had not been available to them, would they have used the word “brother” instead? not likely. OT writers did not fail to differentiate between brothers and relatives who were not brothers. For instance, Ezekiel 11:15 starts off with, "Son of man, your brothers, your relatives, your fellow exiles and the whole house of Israel..." In this verse a "relative" is distinguished from a "brother.”

since u are so sure the greek never uses brother to describe relatives then why does the septuagist use adelphos to describe lot and abramham?

The fact that Mary indulged in sex with her husband after Jesus was born does not in any way diminish from who she was, similarly the rush to deny Jesus any form of earthly comfort i.e familial sibling relationships is simply not right, he was afterall a first century Palestinian Jew!

now u can assert and speculate, but the idea of marys kids is a invention hardly found in the earlier centuries. The early christians clearly sttate mary had one kid and the bible doesnt disagree.

otipoju:
No one is contesting that Mary was a virgin when she was betrothed to Joseph. The idea that you are trying to postulate is that throughout her lifetime, she never slept with any man. Sadly your evidences are not solid nor convincing enough to back your claim. If God did not want Joseph to sleep with mary at all, he would clearly have said so. And the bible records that he did not until after she had gave birth.

sorry dear that is pure speculation, if God wanted us to blive mary perpetual virginity he wwould have told us, if God wanted us to believe in the trinity he would have said it plain in the bible, if God wanted us to believe bible the catholic church wouldnt compile it, the apostles and Jesus would do it etc, pure speculation.

It was never contested in the bible that lot was Abraham's relative and not brother.

but yet the word used to describe them is the one for brothers, the same word used to describe the sso called brothers of Jesus. that should tell u the scope and range of the word.

It was clearly stated that Joseph brothers were half brothers.

It was clearly stated that John was Jesus's cousin and so if Jesus's brothers were half brothers, it would not be hidden.

Jesus's siblings were not part of his disciples and its thrrefore understandable that they were not present at the cross even when all the disciples had deserted him except John.

The answer comes from a close reading of the Gospels. Matthew and Mark name the following as “brothers” of Jesus: James, Joseph (or “Joses,” depending on the manuscript), Simon, and Judas (i.e., “Jude”). But Matthew 27:56 says that at the cross were Mary Magdalene and “Mary the mother of James and Joseph,” whom he significantly calls “the other Mary” (Mt 27:61) (i.e., the Mary who was not Mary the Mother of Jesus). John concurs with this, telling us that “standing by the cross of Jesus were his mother, and his mother’s sister, Mary the
wife of Clopas, and Mary Magdalene” (Jn 19:25, emphasis added). In short, James, Jude, and their brothers are the children of “the other Mary,” the wife of Clopas, not Mary, the Mother of Jesus.
Interestingly, this “other Mary” is described as the mary “sister.” Is it really possible that
two siblings were both named Mary? Probably not.
Rather it’s far more likely they were “sisters” in the same sense Jesus and the other Mary’s son, James, were “brothers.” That is, they were cousins or some other extended relation.

The same bible that talks about the brothers of Jesus tells us their mothers andd even fathers, they werent marys children.

PastorAIO:
It says, I think, he was resolved to do wrong but had a change of heart.

did he resolve to do wwrong? Am not sure, did he change his mind yes. If he had resolved to disobey his parents wwithout good reason do i think he sinned? Yeah..

dolphinheart:
dnt jump the gun sir, neither did I say so . But the scriptures told us jesus had brothers, these brothers of jesus where mostimes it's mentioned, with Mary!, these are facts, abi no be so

the bible does mention adelphos of jesuss and even mentions them with mary, but never sons of mary those are facts.

yes you are right , it does not address the topic, but it surely helps one to understand why you hold on to the veneration of Mary and put her in a position that does not have any divine organizational surpport. you gave her a crown God does not like or approve of, and you had to alter God's organizational arrangement to achieve this!

again the rant continues.

did I say it was sin? no
but did Mary remain unclean for 40 days after jesus birth ? yes

you asked if we consider such the case today, the answer is no, but Mary is not from today, and she did not give birth to jesus today, she gave birth to jesus when the law of Moses was still active!

I also Do not think the birth of christ was an unclean event, but according to the law, Mary was unclean when she gave birth to jesus, was she not? and she remaimed unclean for 40 days, was she not?

according to the law Jesus was also unclean when he was saving us becos he bled, and he was accursed by the law for dying on a tree. So Jesus was also unclean and even accursed by the law, as his mother wwas unclean at childbirth according to the law.


Sorry dear but what does that prove?

OlaoChi:
but there's no record or evidence that Oranmiyan is descended from any ogiso

just as there is no record of oduduwwa jumping down from the sky, no is there record of shongo, osun, etc, all anybody has are oral traditions passed on from generation to generation. the bini tradition says oranmiya descended from oduduwa d son of owwodo, the yoruba tradition says oduduwwa fell from the ssky. I know the one which is more probable and the one that sounds false.

greggng:
Common what re you driving at? Beaten to death is not same as beheaded. I think beheading is a more cruel way of killing someone. On the last day when jesus wanna raise the dead she might be raised without head. I think is better one dies with all parts complete

Actually beaten to death is worst, beheading is quick and within a minute it is over, beaten to death is a long painful process where u suffer from pain, internal injuries, organ collaspe, broken bone etc until u die.

there is ntin gud about been beaten to death.

elampiro:
Exactly. So Pope Francis will need many years to study it all over.

Yeah everything happens slowly

JMAN05:
We read:

But he did not have sexual relations with her until she gave birth to a son, and he named him Jesus matt 1:25

Ubeni why do you think that this scripture didnt mean that Joseph later had relations with Mary?

that is becos u are reading the bible with a modern twist instead of reading it according to it ancient text. In the Bible, the word 'untill' means only that some action did not happen up to a certain point; it does not imply that the action did happen later, which is the modern sense of the term. In fact, if the
modern sense is forced on the Bible, some ridiculous meanings result.
Consider this line: "Michal the daughter of Saul had no children till the day of her death" (2 Sam. 6:23). Are we to assume she had children after her death? d use of until doesnt prove anything.
Recent translations give a better sense of the verse: "He had no relations with her at any time before she bore a son" (New American Bible) and knox

blueAgent:
The ministration of death is the law. becos the bible says the wages of sin is death.Romans 6:23
and what is sin? sin is the transgression of the law.James2:9-12
When you break God's moral law the consquences is death. the bible says where there is no law there is no Sin.Romans5:13

example in a society were adultery is legal and accepted.if someone commits that offence.what will you charge him on? since it is legal.


If you read translated bible version.you see that what was done away with ,was the glory covering moses face.not the law written on stone.

ARE WE STILL UNDER D MINISTRATION OF DEATH OR HAS IT BEEN SURPASSED?

blueAgent:
The law was engraved on stone. we both agree that. then show me were the bible says in that verse that the law was done away with. pls use other clearer bible translations.

SO U AGREE THAT THE MINISTRY OF DEATH IS D LAW?

OlaoChi:
thank you for your comment.

Pls take notice of the emboldened, it shows that Oranmiyan had no regard for the ogiso, but was all high heavens for Obaship
with this one Cannot return to link ogiso dynasty with oba dynasty.

I still wonder why Edo like to link two unrelated dynasties... oh I get it, it's all in a bid to play supremacy games

Becos the bini believe blood is a powerful.
Oramiyan may not have appreciated d complex bini government, culture, or social stuff and title, infact the last ogiso was unpopular, but all that not withstanding he is a desendant of the ogiso and so links both dynasties.

Blood is a powerful link for d binis.

PastorAIO:
What exactly do you mean when you say 'subjected to weakness'. Do you mean that Jesus experienced what I experienced at the first flush of puberty, when I looked at our neighbours daughter and spontaneously had a glorious awakening. I rose to the occasion like I never knew I could.

hehehe

Nely77:
I am not good at comparing pictures of people I do not know very well especially when they look alike. Please compare these pictures of Cardinal Arinze and that on the post. Then draw your conclusion.

u have not seen a recent pic of the card, he is now very old and wwrinkled the pics you gave are some years ago. And even at that it still isnt card arinze

GhaliNaaba:
Now I see reason why he was not found worthy to be first black pope. Shameless man.

that is not card arinze, dont be deceived

Olu20090:
The Unthinkable Has Happened



http://www.thebiafratimes.co/2016/05/breaking-cardinal-arinze-joins-heroes.html?utm_source=&utm_medium=facebook&m=1

that is not cardinal arinze, it seems you are spreading lies