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Mekybliss:
First when I saw this, thought it was just a joke. But after reading this I felt really bad. Seriously what is the world turning into?? http://realnewsrightnow.com/2015/07/06/pope-francis-god-has-instructed-me-to-revise-the-ten-commandments/

It is a joke and you should feel bad that someone in his right mind will consciously decide to publish fake news about someone else, lie about him and decieve others.

Lying against others is a sin and I pray God forgives those who originated and are propagating this falsehood.

MarvellousGod:
Hmmmmmm, society has finally taken its toll on Pope Francis, too bad... He needs our prayers, he's human afterall...



Meanyl, nothing like praying by yourself shaaa.. person no know wch man of God to trust with the way the world has become. ...

It's well. .

pray for the pope, he really needs more of it but not certainly because someone lied about him.

Add more prayer for the person who published a lying news and add a little for yourself so God prevents you from quick judgement without verification.

Peace

Abimbolaile:
Oh please! such gibberish, if God had spoken to him...then all the men of God should have gotten the memo...nonsense!

calm down dear, there is no reason to get hot without good reason.

Calmly make research before you breath fire, this is not the first time someone is making news out of falsehood. Go and check reliable news sources and see if this falsehood is there.

The pope did not, can not and will not say that.

In the catholic church divine law is unchangeable except by the divine. No later "revelation" can change scriptures. The ten commandments is settled and the pope does not have the power to change it.

Lastly, public revelation ended with the apostles, a catholic pope or priest cannot present his "dream or vision or revelation" and ask you to believe them.

You'll know this if you made an effort to verify before commenting.

urheme:
Quite a lot.

Sir pleatton taught me how unrealistic religion is,
Macof and pagan9ja made me know that even the pagans are enlighten and well soffisticated.

The being called rationalmind is a wonderful being, something he or she imbibe in me is to have strong reasons for doing or enguaging in a thing, i will never forget that post.

Olaadegbe don't know if i spelt the name correct, made me believe the Bible is a trick book, this man knows where every word is in the bible, believe me he can make voluminous claims for his faith.

Beneditamus and italo taught me that no matter what i must stand firmly on my ground.

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More comming

mr urheme,

i dey vex, hope that is not my username you just murdered in cold blood?

italo:
No 1: there are many forms of prayer. Offering incense or offerings or fasting or sacrifice or another person's prayer or anything else to God...is prayer in itself.

No 2: you agree that elders carry our prayers to God. You must also agree that those in heaven pray to God to avenge their death on those who killed them. So you believe people in heaven can carry our prayers to God and can pray for you to be punished if you deserve it...

But they cannot pray for you to be blessed if you deserve it?

For the first time in your life, THINK!

hehehe,

this is serious.

All the saints can pray infact they even have access to our prayers and offer them to God(intercession) but they can't pray, if you see protestant reason and you are not suprised then you'll never be suprised again in your life.

DeOrleans:
Dis Nation n it leaders aint goin any way....! Dis APC n PDP war in d senate will some day grow into a full grown civil war....! I havnt cin were a legislator will stand @ d floor of d Senate 2 say dat d Interest of a Political Party surpasses d interest of d legislature... N Buhari is busy Travellin even with d signs of War being Agravated @ NASS.

Buhari can't interfer in this issue. A group of senators has alledged that some senate procedures were forged and used to illegally elect senators into principal offices.

Now it is the work of the police to investigate the issue and see if there is any truth to it. If the procedures were forged then those reposible will be jailed, if not life continues.

This issue has nothing to do with buhari and it will be stupid, irresponsible and tantamont to political suicide if he attempts to interfer.

angieberry:
That's why we have the Holy Spirit as an intercessor

And as regards to your queen mother argument, many of my catholic friends have towed this same line of reasoning, saying that Mary is a sort of link to God but remember Jesus says that the ONLY way to the Father is through HIM. No other way. So that argument is invalid!

hehehe,

when the bible say we are "in Christ" what do you understabd by that?

Please correct the topic "episcopal bishop says..." not retired priest.
Catholics and orthodox have priests, episcopals have pastors.

johnydon22:

This bolded is called Unitarianism meaning Jesus = yahweh and yahweh = jesus.
trinitarian doctrine is Jesus is not the father and the father is not jesus but both are God. . . check your doctrine well because the upper part of your post connotes trinitarian doctrine while the bolded part shows Unitarianism

no he isn't teaching unitarianism, Jesus is equal to his father than is trinitarian doctrine.


And lastly, Yahweh is the name for the one God not for the father alone.

wiegraf:
as for the legal issues, you might have a case in certain situations. but I also know there are ways to continue living like it were 4 millennia ago (as the op reminds us, ie assuming his fairy tale were true) if you want to. I know of reputable clubs that didn't allow black people in till the 90s. and that wasn't because the law required it of them, they simply realised they had to keep up with the times, and finally.

that said, I do know most jurisdictions have anti discriminatory laws that apply to institutions that meet certain criteria. heres a summary of some of californias history in that area

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Membership_discrimination_in_California_social_clubs

i'll add; tell me exactly how you'd feel if you showed up to collect your marriage certificate and were denied because you were...black? jewish?

this falls flat on its face when we remember that marriage isn't defined with regards colour or nation but certainly with regards sex.

a government institution? one run on public taxes? or even just aided by tax breaks on the assumption that they take on meritable public causes?

I needn't say more, I hope

anyways, as for private institutions, that's another story, yes, but the public general supports your right to be a bigot. recent fiascos like the chikenzila incident from last year or so demonstrate this.

these cases aren't even the norm. there must be afair amount of similar incidents daily in which the couple just shrugs and moves on. these particular couples are aggrieved for whatever reason. dunno, we'll just let the courts handle that. were laws broken? maybe, but claiming you are somehow being persecuted is a tad silly, no? let's not even get into the hypocrisy. you really might need some perspective.

for instance, 'advertising' in public school? are hetero unions also 'advertised' in those books? what of interracial marriages? are such abominations advertised in those books?

public (emphases on this word please) school books fa!

oga, if you live there, find yourself a private school suited to your (frankly bigoted) needs abeg. follow your own suggestions; just as you feel these people should find another venue/whatever for their weddings, you find a school which feeds your needs. don't expect publicly funded schools to cater to your narrow views

and you're the one being discriminated against?!

hmm

I'll pretend I didn't see that bestiality comment, for now.

now I feel offended by your tags and lastly read up of the supreme court judgement and see the definition given and see the wide door opened.

wiegraf:
oh nos. those damned are gays coming into my house and eating sausages

lol,
what concerns me and "sausage eating"? What concern damned Or gay or sausage eating?

Oh, i Guess that was a failed attempt to make an arguement from sympathy by describing gays as sausage eating people, well everyone eats sausages including heteros, pedos, e.t.c, it has nothing to do with this topic. Nor have I described anyone sofar as damned.

Now go eat some sausages

I'm confused as to what the problem is with calling a bigot a bigot. bemused. I mean, if you want to use xtianity as an excuse, why I don't see you treating those who wear different fabrics, eat shellfish or work on sabbath in the same way? one can only surmise the problem lies elsewhere

lol,

I am aware it is pretty difficult to prove a negative, infact most people prefer not to waste time on such things.

First my dear, a bigot is someone who is intolerant to other people because they hold ideas, thought or characteristics which differ.

If i prevented a jew from eating with other nations in my resturant simple 'cos he is a jew, then i'll be a bigot. If i start avoiding d muslims in my area for no reason other than religion then the name may apply. The same will apply if i was pursueing homosexuals away from my area or even my church, trying to avoid them.., simply because of their orientation.

And for the record, I actually know people who are not heteros and I don't avoid them, I actually have pretty good relationship with them, we actually are close enough to share tables. So sorry I am not intolerant or discriminatory to homosexuals.

So my dear I am no bigot.

The point I have expressed so far is that "marriage" properly speaking is an ancient institution that unite of man and woman for the procreation and upbringing of offsprings and companionship.

By definition a "gay marriage" is a impossibility. If the government is allowing unions of gay people, that is their business but it certainly is not marriage, it is a misnomer to describe it as such, or to equate it with marriage. Marriage unites man and woman and by that very fact a "gay marriage is a misnomer unless the couple are man and woman. And any redefinition of that term as the supreme court just did is not marriage at best a joke, as I said earlier d new definition simply say it is a way to prevent loneliness.


Oh and before I forget, It seems you are hopelessly confusing Christianity with Judaism! Shell fish and fabrics are not forbidden in Christianity I thought you should know that, it is judaism that forbids such.

On the otherhand, we do forbid stuff like stealing, murder, masturbation, addiction, adultery, fornication, bearing false witness and homosexual sexual relation and all those are considered sinful and discouraged.

And yes, I treat all who commit such sins the same way including myself, I remind them that such is immoral, I do not encourage it and I hope for repentance. That is exactly how I treat myself when I sin.

honourhim:
You still dont get it. The question is- who gave Mary such powers and where is it in the scripture? U are just dancing around this issue dear.

actually there is no question there, the person said he was wondering! He didn't really ask a question

Atlantian:
This planet, this Earth, has come to a stage, in which the inhabitant should worry about the most important things and not sexual orientation of fellow humans. It has come to that point we must accept the imperfection of the human species. If we all assume that what is not right in our eyes should be barred, then what is the essence of the imperfectionism of the planet and nature. We all know that nature is not perfect, and civilization seeks to find that missing link. To put it openly, for many men, it is okay to fucck the anus of females and also the vagina. What is the difference between the anus of a female and that of a male. I guess no difference. And for many women, it is okay to use a vib.rator and dil.do; and also its okay if a man uses the d.ildo and vi.brator on them, but what is the difference between a fellow woman using it on them and may be even touching them as men usually do ? No difference. For me I think its the question of mental readjustment. Soddomy has come to stay, it is a matter of time before we all realize that polygamy, polyandry and soddomy are just as natural as monogamy et al.

lol,

i'll reply this later.

The next is bestiality.

johnydon22:
This is a very literal violation of human right because i have the right to reject your money and refuse to give my services, i am not a slave. am a free citizen.

Everyone has the right to reject to plan wedding for both homo and heterosexuals, it is my right because it is my service not yours.

When it comes to this extreme premise, then i have a serious problem with imposing such laws.

story story!

You can read up on the bakery that was fined heavily for refusing o bake for a homosexual couple.

If you are a judge then you must be ready to wed a homo couple, if not kiss your job goodbye.

People were saying this is just about two people in their bedroom, but that is nonesense. It is a societal issue that involves the total redefination of marriage and what it entails.

The judge who legalised it said that marriage is the institution made so that humans will not be lonely in old age. That spurious redefinition leaves the door open for bestiality. Because the aim of marriage has been redefined to mean just not be lonely.

Feel free to add the following
www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-17320932
m.huffpost.com/us/entry/2344870

This is what pope Benedict had to say about gay marriage for those who care to know the truth.


There is also a need to acknowledge and promote the natural structure of marriage as the union of a man and a woman in the face of attempts to make it juridically equivalent to radically different types of union; such attempts actually harm and help to destabilize marriage, obscuring its specific nature and its indispensable role in society.

These principles are not truths of faith, nor are they simply a corollary of the right to religious freedom. They are inscribed in human nature itself, accessible to reason and thus common to all humanity. The Church’s efforts to promote them are not therefore confessional in character, but addressed to all people, whatever their religious affiliation. Efforts of this kind are all the more necessary the more these principles are denied or misunderstood, since this constitutes an offence against
the truth of the human person, with serious harm to justice and peace.

www.ibtimes.com/pope-gay-marriage-pope-benedict-xvi-says-same-sex-marriage-unnatural-threat-justice-peace-942132

Anas09:
Idol worshippers. Babylon the great.

what concerns babylon and "faith is to touch Jesus"?

Atlantian:
No one imposes a same-sex partner on anyone. If a man wants to marry a man, is that supposed to another man's problem ? What ever happens in another person's bedroom should not be an issue. Same sex or opposite sex marriage makes no difference to us as individuals. We just have to focus our energies on something else instead of worrying about how people fucck or get fuccked.

actually this is a load of crap we were told to enable us accept the bitter pie.

In America today, if you own a bakery and refuse to bake for an Homosexual couples marriage, you'll be sued for discrimination, if you are a wedding planner and refuse to plan a wedding for homosexuals you could be sued and you'll pay huge fines!

That is the simple truth so what those guys decide to do actually affect others.

The question is not about what happens in another mans bedroom, heck i do not give a cent about what happens in another man's bedroom, the problem is that the law forces the average man on the street to accept what he rejects. The law says now everybody is expected to consider d homo couple as ok as the hetero couple and if you do no you'll land you sorry as.s in court for discrimination.

So yes! This new law makes what happens in another man's bedroom the business of the public. Gay marriage is an attemp to thrust these interesting issues into the public eye and make sure you accept, if you do noy you will be classed a bigot.

Oh...lastly and now the phenomeno is advertised in public school curiculum.

Have a nice day.

kokoA:
To many sabi sabi in the house.. Smh @ Nigerian protestants.. Must you people always find fault in other people's beliefs? If you think it is only you and your church members that will be in heaven then you're mistaking. God did not create the world for you and people of your faith alone. He created the world for you, catholics, muslims, atheist, buddist, hindu, etc and he said we are ALL his children.. Allow other people worship God the way the know, do not Judge! The old man gave a very beautiful sermon that all christians can benefit from and just because he mentioned "Mary" somewhere, some people be came uncomfortable.. Smh.. Why don't you pick what is of benefit to you from the sermon and leave the rest?

thank you, there is a sermon of over 10 paragraph discussed there and the topic is faith, yet some people prefer to discuss the concluding prayer.

starlingslimnet:
Not worth quibbling over.... Just watch things unfold.

there is nothing to quibble about, you have made a silly assumption that is contrary to the facts on ground, assumptions that are so suprious that you can't even be bothered to prove.

That is how people begin rumours.

Xano:
In order words, Federal(State inclusive) primary and secondary schools tuition fees will increase to pay staffs in each of the schools. Interesting.

please read the story again. Federal primary and secondary school will continue to be paid by federal government. State primary and secondary school will continue to be funded from the state allocation!

The news is about the primary and secondary schools owned by federal universities for university staff. Federal government is saying universities should pay for university staff secondary school.

starlingslimnet:
I laugh anticlockwisely. You can never understand things.

even a mad man believes the sane ones just don't understand. It all in your mind.

Pope Benedisct had no deal supporting homosexual unions, he was very much against it.

deracathy:
May the Almighty God strengthen you and your
Family with faith, hope, grace and love. May you continue to trust in his word and ever rejoice in his goodness.
Happy New Month E-family

same to you

starlingslimnet:
Pope Benedict is the author of gay marriage. He made Obama president of America in exchange for Homosexualism.

try to make research before you start talking trash, Benedict had no deal with Obama relating to homosexuality. The pope doesn't install the president of America, he is not the electorate.

And for the record, pope benedict, was and is against homosexual union.



On the topic, they should try the same with muslims and see the reaction.

Freedom of expression doesn't mean you go about provoking others.

I am proud to be a catholic. In that one ecclesia founded by Christ himself on the apostles.

Glory to God.

Anas09:
Idol worshippers. Babylon the great.

how does this concern the post?

johnw74:
Christians don't need to ask the Lord through the intercession of the Virgin Mary
We talk directly to the Lord.

please do not derail the thread! The thread is on faith, if you want to discuss intercession and communion of saints, open another thread.

CaptaiinG:
Mr sada is a farmer, he lives in sapele, he has a big farm, he grows corn, cassava. Mehn I don forget that line gone are those days

Ralia the sugar girl

Agbo lives in ibadan

Edet lives in calabar

Ali is a boy, simbi is a girl

no, agbo lives in the own of lagoon which is not far from ibadan

hurricaneChris:
Lol, I swear my brother, you don't understand.

Someone called me last week and said he saw my drawing somewhere.

He asked me to see him at their office.
I went their on tuesday before traveling to owerri, this man just took me inside his office and gave me appointment letter! He's an Architect.

No interview, no stress.

I have a new job!!!!

i just remembered a portion of the book of psalms that says God pours his choicest blessings on his beloved while they slumber!

Thank God!

Come to think of it, i think you just dropped a previous testimony about your relative...

God just dey too much.

italo:
Oh! In the case of Dahomey, Togo and Ghana, the areas were coastlines without inhabitants...

...but in Lagos, the coastline was inhabited by Yorubas.

sacasm is never far from you.

Lol