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Boomark: Deluded agreement.

I see why you guys sheepishly follow your priest on both true and false doctrine.

She is not even a priest. So you now agree that Jesus did not create Mary but just her son. Have you forgotten how you are busy quoting that Jesus created all things to support the defeated trinity doctrine.

SMH!!

u see why i dont even take pleasure discussing with you where did she say Jesus didnt create mary?? u have started twisting

shdemidemi: Faith has an energy to receive

Mathew mark and Luke are books in the New Testament but they are not New Testament messages
The faith Jesus talked about before the his death (under the law) is different from the faith we have in God's faithfulness in Paul's epistles
Faith as an energy to obtain things from God is no more
So God dont need your faith to do what He would do (works)
All you need now is the faith/believe in the death of Christ on the cross for our sins
So under grace all u need do is trust God's faithfulness n allow him to run your life
In other words The gospel/faith only started after the death of Christ
So when u read -know the dispensation and the periods before u argue
And please ask questions politely so we can encourage n learn from each other

and JESUS WEPT

Logicboy03: how is the slavery in the bible not primitive and barbaric?

mtchew.

and d best way to study it is by discussing slavery in ancient rome abi and tomorow u'll call yourself logicboy

Logicboy03: Dumbazz, Rome was brought as a case study for primitve slavery not Judaism.

and i quickly corrected mr kay dat d topic isnt primitive slavery but slavery according to d bible, instead of reading my post u jump in throwing trantrum

[quote author=i.chuka]Dude
Water baptism is merely a declaration that a Christain is dead to the world and live his/her life to the dictects of the Holy Spirit.
Baptism or no Baptism as long as a Christain has receive Christ as His Lord and Savior,by so doing confesses his/her sins.his sins have been cleanses automatically.
Baptism have no part whatsoever in forgiveness or the cleanses of sin.[/quote]and where does d bible say this

samnuhubaba: B-)The threat of islam,colonialism and catholicism.
Over the yrs,the advent of islam,colonialism and catholicism hv pollutd the main stream of humanity and the peaceful tolerance of religion and its teachngs.Islam,for example hv succeedd in reducing the tolerance of a peaceful human race.Though,its haddith are packd with lot of spiritual blessings and teachngs,bt the irony is the case.Colonialism s bt a disease to a traditional believa.Catholicism s menace in its perspectives and loose members who blv in the teachngs of wine.WHAT DO U THNK?

heheh i tink u deserve all d response u've gat so far

Logicboy03: There were Jews in Roman vicinities and under Roman rule.


Get some sense. Only a liar with a christian bias will say that slavery in 2000 BC - 60Ad was more humane than the 16-19th century.


You imagine barbarians in the 2000BC were kinder masters than masters in the 16th century?

Do you know the amount of blocks or farm work that needed to be done in 2000BC with no machinery available?

d usual, logicboy writes b4 he thinks. there were few jews in ancient rome, one cant bring d records of rome as a case study for judaism

Logicboy03: Rome didnt exist in biblical times abi?

did rome practice judaism??

[quote author=PAGAN 9JA]ok Ubenedictus. I have reopened this thread. I just saw it. let us do the research you wanted. Throw me the questions. Throw me facts. I am hungry.[/quote]tanks for reopening da thread,if u check d thread u'll see i'm interested in d ifa philosophy wha'd ya know abt it?

Boomark: I am waiting....

Let me see where Mary and Peter died and went to heaven when Paul was writing Hebrew.

u don't need d sacasm. when i have time i'll write about the just made perfect as dead old t saints and d exposition in heb

striktlymi: Good evening Pagan,








I don't know the particular 'brand' of pagan religion (May be you can help out here). All I know is that we had this river 'goddess' called 'Ise' who we go to worship at specific periods.




Yes, I was born into it and practiced it too. Actually, my grand dad (Fathers side) was a high chief in our village and a respected 'traditionalist' and 'seer' while my grand dad (mothers side) was the Okumagbe (King) of Weppa and Uwanno who also was a 'strong man'. You can say, paganism ran in the family.

really

striktlymi: Really?? Wow!!! Small world! She is still worshipped to this very day.

i'm aware. i still know people who did and "children born of ise".

Enigma: [Digression] The bolded takes me back some 20 odd years!!!! Litigation involving parties including the Okpegbulagbe (sp?) of Okpella and the Okumagbe of Wepa-Wano![/Digression]

u knlw all d storiez

[quote author=PAGAN 9JA]I am sorry brother. I probably didnt notice your thread. Also I am a follower of Hausa religion. My knowledge of Ifa Orisha, though vast, is not in-depth. Howeever if you need me to draw parallels with Universal Pagan Religions, certian explanations,etc., I can do.

THis was why our brother stryktlymi here immediately refused to help you in this matter. He too follows( followed/eternally confused (?) ) a different Pagan religion and probably doesnt have much indepth knowledge of Ifa Orisha as me. We dont even speak that language. You must catch a Yoruba speaking Pagan worshipper for that.[/quote]i figured, ise is actualy around my place of origin

[quote author=PAGAN 9JA]Good day,

ok wait, i Remember. you follow Afemai Religion.
Ok so you used to worship River spirits. does that mean you never went to church? that you were purely Pagan?



ok great. so what prompted you to accept man-worship and leave traditional Spirituality?[/quote]wow! i know d tradition too. ise is indigenous to d agenebode people. some people in my extended family knew d godess lady and served her according to history.

Thanks, d only problem is dat ur history start in 4th century, station of d cross dates far back.

martinseme: as a former catholic i am really appalled by the absolute flagrant disobedient of catholics to the conmmandment of God not to bow,honour ,worship or pay homage to any thing living or dead . The dangerous act been perpetated by catholics on the excuse they only venerate and honour but not worship is one which will lead to their costly eternal damnation.

u have added to d word of God! Neither the old testament didnt prohibit honor, bow or homage paid to d living and faithful jews will also argue it didnt prohibit honor 4 d dead.
Where did u get d above from?

Oga ola don enter oh!! I pity for anybody wey dey against this merryband.

italo: First of all, have you noticed that all your fans who cheered you on have suddenly backed off?

My dear, you are grossly misinformed about the gospel. You were wrong about 'confession' and you are wrong about miracles.

Mark 11:23: “Truly I tell you, if ANYONE says to this mountain, ‘Go, throw yourself into the sea,’ and does not doubt in their heart but believes that what they say will happen, it will be done for them.

John 14:12: "I tell you the truth, ANYONE who has faith in me will do what I have been doing. He will do even greater things than these, because I am going to the Father."

Did you see that?! "ANYONE!!!" "ANYONE!!!"

You just keep contradicting Jesus.

amen!! Those graces didnt die with the apostles!

shdemidemi: @italo

Jesus was talking to his Disciples/Apostles and his disciples alone here...not u nor me nor the pope or any pastor.

interesting!! And ridiculous!! Did grace end with d apostles/disciple? If it was given at all, then it was given till d church fully reassembles in heaven. Since when did grace start hooking? If d apostle laid hands on people to continue d ministry then the gift has been passed on!

shdemidemi: A popular scene in the secular World is the Worship of creatures like Snake, the Sun, The moon,carved objects etc. We as Christians don't do this. A better God has made himself known to us by our inner consciousness through His eternal power and divinity-- The God that created heaven and earth and all the creatures within it.

But, there is an opposition (devil) camp that knows fully well that we would not bow before these things. He would then come in a subtle manner as if He is part of the church with all sort of trickery to deviate the church from God's will.

Many of the new generation believers have inherited the effects (false doctrine) of the work of the devil. Most Christians are Christians because they find themselves there by birth. They remain loyal to the tradition which has been laid down by their immediate environment without going back to the source. Unfortunately, most acclaimed churches operate under the dogma of the evil one.

How did I come to this conclusion? The gospel has shifted/moved from what it was thought by the Apostles of Christ who pioneered it. Even after strict warnings from Apostle Paul that we should stand firm on the foundation and the traditions which has been laid.

Men have concocted all sorts of doctrine to satisfy the flesh. God has now been relegated to the back while our needs and desires matters more to us. WE DEVIATED.

Prosperity doctrines pull believers than any other. Miracles, Signs and Wonders Ministry coupled with Spiritual warfare with the devil and enemies are now the most appealing to Christians. Gospel music with melody that moves us and not God takes more time in our gathering (Some Christians choose their churches based on the quality of the music). WE DEVIATED

The supposed men of God sit on the holy of holy seats like God-- The Pope forgive sinners who make confessions to him, some other collect tithes and offerings for Gods blessings in exchange, some talk as if God speaks to them in person and not through the Book (Bible), Some boast about their riches: many come to them, not to know God but for the deceit of riches--they are told to pray/fast for their own riches to be delivered (They come for the wrong reasons). WE DEVIATED

They pervert the word of God to suit their lust of the flesh, lust of the eyes and the pride of life. They moved the church from its root- They put us back in the bondage of the law, They put a vail upon our hearts. WE DEVIATED

Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. 2 Corinthians 3:17.
I beseech us (Christians) as a part of a body of Christ to be
.Be objective
.ask questions
.divide the word of God rightly(know what is written to you as a child of the light)
.renew your mind/perspective
.Listen to the real gospel- A true teacher is invaluable.(not necessarily where its most convenient or the closest to your house)

correction d pope doesnt hear confessions or forgive sins. Mayb u shuld replace d word pope with bishops and priest.

U guys shuld remind me, what does sharia say says as regard blasphemy?
I guess the muslims have overdone it. The extremism of these pakistani muslims even beats the extreme sharia law.

striktlymi: LWKMD!!!

I can just imagine! Where are the 'wise guys' when you need them?

just as the magician disappear when you need them. I was like wow! It is hard to check a whole topic without finding a pagan telling us about our beautiful religion and slavery to western God, now time to talk about d african concept and wise ones and magicians disappears together.

striktlymi:
Lol!!!
Pagan 9ja is your sure bet! He is vast in the 'art' I must say.

i opened a thread last year on ifa and ifa philosophy and even went as far as telling atheist and d fire and brimestone xtians to back off, imagine my suprise when the trado worshippers who go about xtian threads just didn't show up! I had to milk out Pastor aio but i think d time factor was a problem. He didnt have d time to respond. And somehow all the pagans were absent!

bilms: And what is the conspiracy theory here.

d "plot" to end human existence.

Kay 17: You obviously don't understand Slavery in Roman times.

Check this:http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_ancient_Rome

no one is discussing slavery in ancient rome, we are discussing slavery according to d bible, in other words d biblical perspective on slavery particularly d old t perspective. I'm suprised u are talking about ancient rome.

striktlymi: I guess I beat you to it!

and i miss an opportunity to burn ur a$s a little. Good explanation, never knew u praticed traditional religion, maybe you can help me with my study of ifa. Wha'd ya say?

striktlymi: C'mon man, everyone has the right to choose how to respond to someone's personal ish.



The questions are not about my religious beliefs...they are more about why I chose the belief and why I am still part of that belief system...if he had asked a question about my beliefs, Ubenedictus, Chukwudi44 and any other 'enlightened' catholic would have been able to answer without my input.



I don't care much about whether or not my identity is revealed. I have not attempted to even hide it. I can reveal my identity without breaking a sweat.



My beliefs are obvious in all my posts! Not everyone agrees with them but they are obvious. The OP's questions were inspired by the beliefs inherent in my posts.



There is no biggy! Watch out for part 2...Lol!!!

i'll burn u a little, i really dont see d reason why you chose not to let us know ur private ish. At least d bible says u shuld have an ansa for those which to know the reason for ur hope. Abi no be so?

They all seem unhuried.

[quote author=i.chuka]So in essence the baptism of our Lord Jesus Christ @Jordan washes away His Sins abi? Or the thief @the cross came down went to a river and cleanses himself before going back to the cross to die shei?[/quote]jesus recieved baptism to set an example, and it is not an absolute necessity so d theif could still b safe. This doesnt negate d fact dat d bible says, b baptised 4 d 4givenes of sins and d reception of d H spirit.

Alfamann: You call this level head?

hehehe, e b like u and d guy get issues! I better keep off oh!