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Logicboy03: I thank gawd that there are other christians that agree with me when I say that you're a self righteous hypo......


You and Frosbel should get married with all your "true body of christ", "sound teachings/doctrine", "true christianity"

Who told you or where did you get the authority to teach the true gospel? Hmm? Why is your preaching more real than the catholic or the mormon or the sevn day adventists?

You sound like a Judaizer..........



Trolololo.....sorry just had a bad day and I have gone into troll mode

frosbel: you are whistling that your catholic bishops are bowing before a rotten piece of flesh ?

Pagans !!

striktlymi: Lol!!! Definitely not! I have been making research about popular Atheists who lived lives of sacrifice but I have come out empty. Do you know any? I'd like to add them to the list too.

Soukiss: so this is one that we leads his shepherd to distraction . st malachy said it

Pastor AIO: This is the first in what I hope will be a number of threads under the title of Contra Bibliolatreia. In this first thread I would like us to discuss the Septuagint and the origins of our current OT.
The thing about Jerome though is that he had a lot of Jewish friends and he used to discuss with them a lot about the correct rendering of the OT. He was convinced that the Masoretic was superior to the Septuagint. So when he created the Vulgate he didn't use the Septuagint but rather used the hebrew Masoretic to make the OT.
Now fast forward a few more centuries to when the protestants were ready to start their own wahala. Quite unanimously all the bible translations of the protestant churches including the the KJV mostly used the masoretic to translate their OT from. The only churches that stick to the original scriptures of christianity, the Septuagint are the Eastern orthodox churches.
There are some other curiosities regarding the septuagint. In the NT when Jesus quotes the OT he quotes it from the septuagint (greek).

truthislight: I dont see why the apocriphal translation along with other books in the septuagint will become the bone now.

Lets say the mandate given to the "72" were generous to capture availabe circulating books.

I see it as being that they were translated as other books that were around to enable the greek readers to be able to read all availabe books in greek and not to give authority as to which sort of books are genuine or not.

So, using the inclusion of the apocriphal books in the translation of the septuagint may not give the veracity needed for those book(apocriphals) as being this or that.

The bone i think is in the quality of the translation and not in the books captured per se in the septuagint, in this thread, unless otherwise stated.
Peace.

Pastor AIO: Not only Jerome's Vulgate but every subsequent bible used in Western Europe. Apart from the Eastern orthodox churches everybody is using the 'more biased versions'. Including the KJV!! The septuagint contained Maccabees and other books that would make most protestants today shudder. It was actually the Masoretic Jews that first rejected these books from their canon, and through Jerome the christians did too eventually. The NT contains references to extra-canonical books as scriptures.

Pastor AIO: Not only Jerome's Vulgate but every subsequent bible used in Western Europe. Apart from the Eastern orthodox churches everybody is using the 'more biased versions'. Including the KJV!! The septuagint contained Maccabees and other books that would make most protestants today shudder. It was actually the Masoretic Jews that first rejected these books from their canon, and through Jerome the christians did too eventually. The NT contains references to extra-canonical books as scriptures.

991: what i don't get clearly is why people see him as a surprise choice when he obviously was the runner-up of the 2005 papal election! are people this dumb gullible? in my view, the whole event was prearranged.

anyways, Congrats to him and the catholic church! hope he restores people faith and trust in the church.

goldenval: I knew priest/nuns who smoke and drink. I used to be a choir and I "partied" with people like them. And nope, no one molested or raped me while I was serving in the church and the people. One of the best thing I've done in my life. They're human beings, too. It's only the narrow-minded people think that they can't do things that "normal" people do.

hahaha .. now I know where the smoke comes from

What do you think of this act?

Cyracks: Yes you are right. Some are worshipping the pope as if he is their god. That is idolatary and it's a sin. A new pope has been elected, and so what? What the celebration all about? Is he god?

CAMEROONPRIDE: Africans contribute the most in term of followers in the Catholic church.go to Western churches all them empty , but they keep electing white popes as if there are no valuable African cardinals. What kind of disrespect be this.
African Christians do you feel betrayed?
Did you want an African pope or the idea never crossed your mind?
After white Jesus/God let's celebrate our new white pope.
Slavery in disguise I tell you.
My 2cents.

musKeeto: But they believe in the Trinity, don't they? And you don't. That's why Father can mean anything to you, while it covers The Three Musketeers for them.

Just pulling your legs this morning.. off your thread..

dick hardener: hausa man and araba no send you guy. You are simply a 10th class citizen according to them. Okpetu. Even you local champion is already exhibiting intolerance and threats towards blasphemy.

vedaxcool: blame your christain brothers for the intimidation






lol this is what i wrote:




Now the op went furtherand made a case against Islam and I pointed the inherent hypocrisy: which is what did christians do when:

- Palestein Christians are being chased from their homes Answer they shut their mouths and closed their eyes

- When Christains murdered each other to the tune of 900, 000 Answer they shut their mouths and closed their eyes

- Congo rape capital of world christains are silent over what their own fellow christians are suffering Answer they shut their mouths and closed their eyes

and yes the catholic church instigated the pogroms against the jews for Killing Jesus, every Easter Christian ran mad and start screaming they killed our God they killed our God (wow what a weak god that is)

Burning people property is Islamic right? Yeah they homosexuality and child molestation is the gift of catholicsm to the world! what a joker you are!

truthislight: What exactly are you waiting for?

Are you waiting to hear Jesus words that is already written down in the bible or you are looking for justification for your belief from frosbel?

frosbel: There is nothing HOLY about the POPE and his False church system.

With all the S.ex scandals and financial sleaze , how can anyone in their right minds attribute HOLINESS to such a corrupt organisation that has nothing to do with Christ Jesus.

vedaxcool: While it remains condemnable and abhorent and underscores the weak state Pakistan is, militant are literally over running the country more disturbing though is seeing some brainless assertion here, christians are oppressed in Palestein what does the christian do, Nothing the same way they did nothing when christians murdered each other in Rwanda to the tune of 900, 000 people the same way they do nothing while Congo christian women suffer rape, children being murdered etc!

The same way the catholic church that frosbel calls the LovePeddler of babylon murdered and pillage the middle east killing, and funy enough its priest(many homosexuals) molest and destroy lives of the young, am I being unfair? We can sit here and say bad stuffs about each other! It isn't hard to do, islam is a bad religion to the extent that shameless christians have to forge their own word and try hard to pass as the Qur'an, seeing catholics make statements here makes the word mockery highly inadequate to describe their condition, the most disgraceful church and religious institution that have shamed religion remains urs truly the Catholic church and its unholy "see"!

Eileen111111: My response: It is true the same Holy Spirit came upon the apostles that overshadowed Mary. But the purpose was obviously different. It would be absurd to argue the purpose of Holy Spirit's descent on the apostles was to cause those men to conceive children! (I will discuss the Holy Spirit's purposes further below.)

Remember that the angel Gabriel told Mary, “The holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you. Therefore the child to be born will be called holy, the Son of God." (Luke 1:35) In saying this, the angel was declaring to Mary that God would enter into a marital relationship with her, causing her to conceive His Son in her womb, For "to lay one's power over a woman" was a euphemism for "to have a marital relationship with her." Likewise "to overshadow" (Lk 1:35) by spreading the "wing" or "cloak" over a woman was another euphemism for marital relations. Did not the Lord say to His bride Israel: "I am married to you" (Jr 3:14) and "your Maker is your husband"? (Is 54-5:5; Jr 31:32)? And what is more intimate than what the Lord said to His bride: "You developed, you grew, you came to full womanhood; your breasts became firm and your hair grew... you were naked... and I saw that you were now old enough for love so I spread my cloak over you... I gave you My oath, I entered into a covenant with you and you became Mine, says the Lord God" (Ezk 16:7, .

St. Joseph legally married Mary, but tradition witnessed by old works of art retain the belief that he was a very old man at the time of his marriage to her. The marriage was never consummated. A marriage is not fully a marriage unless it is consummated. Mary conceived by the power of the Holy Spirit. They had a mystical marriage, a mystical bond. Mary made it clear she was a virgin and had no intention of ever "knowing man." She revealed this when she said, “How can this be, since I have no relations with a man?” (Luke 1:34)

St. Joseph was the foster father of Jesus, not His biological father.

One reason the Holy Spirit came upon them was to give the apostles teaching authority. The apostles were Catholic bishops. They were the authors of the New Testament.

A 2nd reason for sending them the Holy Spirit was to give the apostles the Spirit of Truth so they could lead His Church. Jesus said, "When He, the Spirit of Truth comes, He will lead you into all truth." Jesus promised St. Peter, the first pope, to whom He gave the keys that unlock the gates of heaven: "And so I say to you, you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hell shall not prevail against it." (Matthew 16:18) So Catholics have God's promise that Satan and his demons will never prevail against the Catholic Church. GOD, THEREFORE PRESERVES HIS POPE FROM ERROR WHEN HE SPEAKS ON MATTERS OF FAITH AND MORALS ONLY. Not science, engineering, mathematics, architecture, etc.

Jesus said to Peter and the Twelve, especially in the words recorded in Matthew 16:19:to Peter alone: "Whatever you shall bind on earth, shall be bound also in heaven, and whatever you shall loose on earth, shall be loosed also in Heaven. For those words, binding and loosing, were well known in the teaching of the rabbis of the time. Their usual meaning was to impose or
remove an obligation by an authoritative decision or teaching. These words of Mt 16:19 were repeated to all what seems to be the twelve in Matthew 18:18. That they were not meant for all disciples but just for the Apostles is confirmed by Mt 28:16-29, explicitly to the Twelve. Earlier, at the Last Supper, in John 13:20 Jesus said to the Twelve: "Amen, amen I say to you, he who receives the one I send, receives me; he who receives me, receives the One who sent me."


A third purpose was to give His apostles authority to forgive sins. "[Jesus] said to them again, 'Peace be with you. As the Father has sent me, so I send you.' And when he had said this, he breathed on them and said to them, 'Receive the holy Spirit. Whose sins you forgive are forgiven them, and whose sins you retain are retained.'” (John 20:22-23)

Boomark: God. Yes! God is responsible for Marys pregnancy. He chose to use mary and buy his Power(the holy spirit, the spirit of creation) mary got pregnant. Spouse means husband/wife. the holy spirit is not marys husband, JOSEPH is. Joseph is the person mary married to. Gods power acted in mary.

This is why an still saying that catholics are deciding for God what should be or what He has done. if i ask you for proof that the holy spirit is marys husband, you will start counting nairaland ceiling for me. the same holy spirit came upon the apostles. he was never their husband and wife.

Boomark: they will come and tell that the meat is alive in god. Our Almighty God does not receive worship linked with dead meat. In truth and in spirit all the way. that is the message Christ brought to us from Him.

Can any rcc priest them here before we pass our verdict and convict this people as idol worshipers in the guise as Christians.

truthislight: What is that ^

Are you ok mr man?

Do you drink rat poison like one drinks alcohol?

Is rat poison ment for human consumption?

Rat poison and alcohol, are they the same?

Is alcoholic drink classified as "poison"?

Are you normal?

So, Yahwe that once ask the Israelite to take alcoholic drink was asking them to take qpoison"? (Deut.14:26)

"And thou shalt bestow that money for whatsoever thy soul lusteth after, for oxen, or for sheep, or for wine, or for strong drink, or for whatsoever thy soul desireth: and thou shalt eat there before the LORD thy God, and thou shalt rejoice, thou, and thine household," (Deuteronomy 14:26).
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Who are you by the way? Are you sick?

Imagine this self righteouse hypocrite!

Do you think this place is your business centre(your church) where you spoo rubbish and lies to the sheeple?

You are a disgrace to the bible.

Rat poison = alcoholic drink

You are really a west of time.

I dont think you know what you are doing.
*sigh*

OLAADEGBU: It is commandment not admonition to totally abstain from alcohol. You can't get drunk if you don't drink.
(Ephesians 5:18).

If intoxication is the benchmark here, how do you know when to stop drinking before you get intoxicated?

Is this your own advise or have you got scriptural backing?