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Starships4u:
House rent is biannually,
Feeding and other necessities can be sorted from there(training center)...
My dear, think of bettering yhur own future.
Yhu can make a willing man able, yhu can't make an able man willing....

If yhu can have multiple streams of income, it'd help both yhu and yhur extended house....

where would Op get money or multiple stream of income? A 2.1 graduate earning 25k with more than 4 dependant. Op cannot learn that skill. His family will suffer bro. Some family are really poor o bro. Buhari government added to their poverty. You think Op don't know if he can learn the skills.

clinician2x:
Kill that guy and ease yourself the burden jare instead of feeding him.

God will forgive you bro. I know the elder brother has been a burden to Op but i don't think killing him will solve anything. All these things can be ressolved amicably. Op have a good result. If he can get a good job and fix his elder brother up in whatever he wants. I believe everything will be fine

It's wrong to kill someone biko

athorello:
Leave family, they won't die... Go and hustle.

The one wey die no wan survive before.

Dem no dey solve family problem finish. You need get mind not to look uche face and focus on yourself for now.

It's only when you've saved yourself that you can save others.

So my advice is, MOVE OUT... And be supporting them once once. Maybe just rent or part of it for now. Don't concern so much with their day to day survival. You need some bits of selfishness. Peace!

You don't know Op family more than him. How do you expect Op to abandoned his family and runaway? That's wickedness. It's even fair to tell him to abandoned that his elder brother but abandoning his younger siblings and poor mother is wrong

chimpad:
Your brother may just be fine and right thinking like anyone else. He just lacks a good opportunity. What kind of employer pays someone 20k for a whole month in 2023? That's more than ridiculous and meagre! Was any contract signed as to when the pay will change and when his training will end? He as an employer assigned him to a client as soon as he resumed, meaning that isn't much of training. His schedule for work is 6 days a week, and probably 12hrs shift a day, for #20,000 ? Why do we think this is right? You did well trying to help your brother, but this opportunity might not be anything near good as it sounds. I'd expect to see the conversation you had with him, and his reasons for leaving . He doesn't like that offer, and he seems coerced to accept it in the first place.

Go and read Op message again. His brother is there to learn a skill, plumbing precisely. And he will be paid 30k monthly as stipend. That's not bad to me

Deeprooted:
The federal government knows this and that's why they often send federal military to kill people who are only defending the senseless killings by the herdsmen. I'm not an Igbo but I love them. Only their selfish politicians keep sabotaging their quest for freedom

every region and tribes has selfish politicians. I think they don't know how to play politics

Ovieemmanuel:
no just pray you dont get situation that needs walking about. Then you see different sacrifices and all. Op sha you get patience if not ingor arrange boys beat am any how what nonsense. Better still make him sell him kidneys for the family.

Lol

When some people were busy saying Op should not disrespect him. They were even saying he should apologise to him


Weird people indeed

Job

I need job; either federal, state or private firm

Ovieemmanuel:
there is the problem. Waka waka . Them don carry am go where dem no know.

you will waka waka if you have a child in such situations. If she no waka waka that guy probably will not be alive today. She played her role as a mother. Go to general hospital in Nigeria and watch how people die daily like chicken. If you've been sick for long, you will eat faeces to get freedom.

DownTime44:
He do ask me for money at times and i give him whenever i have. I guess he uses the money to buy card. This guy has shown me eh. I've spent money that i can't spend on myself. There was a time he told me that he can't continue sitting at home doing nothing. Then i asked him what does he want. He said if i could raise small money for him let him go and stay with a friend of his (conductor) probably he could help him look for bus to work with or anything else entirely. I discussed with my mum and we reason with him. Initially, I'm not happy seeing him sitting idle doing nothing as a man. I had to look around to borrow money. I met with my supervisor and begged him to borrow me any amount and i will pay back when i collect salary. He loan me #10,000 and i gave it to my brother and he left the following day. My monthly take home was left with #15,000 having given out the #10,000 to my supervisor. You won't believe this my brother came back home after four days. I didn't even ask him anything because i was angry. I don't want anything that will make me raise my hands on him or call our neighbours attention. It was my mum that was asking him why did he returned home after four days. He claimed his so called friend doesn't have a bus working with also. He has been idle as well. I think the friend is married but his wife had left him probably because he couldn't provide for the family

What a useless country. A 2.1 graduate earning less than the mumu minimum wage. I think your country failed you Op and millions of unemployed graduates out there.

bummyla:
My Brother! it takes one person to lift his family out of poverty! Maybe the Op is the chosen one in his family!

Op did not tell us that the elder brother is troublesome!

He just told us that the young man lack drive and ambition!

There is nothing prayers cant do!

Why will his elder brother be a conductor for some many years and did not think of graduating to be a driver, or own a bus one day!

Is that not strange to you!?

I have been in Op shoes before! I know how it hurts!

Thank God! GOD made a way for the rest of us!

Op elder brother is a good man that has been psychological programmed to believe that nothing good can come out of his life!

That metal slavery needs to be broken!

I did not say Op elder brother is troublesome either. I'm only calling your attention to what you said about respect. Respect is earned irrespective of age. You don't demand for respect you earn it. If the elder brother is troublesome or does not stay on his lane, it is normal to be disrespected big time.

Interesting

bummyla:
Secondly, if your brother is not a threat to your mother, you people can simply ignore him, like we did to my elder brother. He eats food when offered to him at home, when not offered he respects his self and not go near the kitchen.

He keeps to his lane! Which is sometime good!

Now some of us are doing better, we send him money from time to time, to help him keep body and soul together.

If he minds his business! Just let him be concentrate on your self and your other siblings, but please dont disrespect him!

We do not disrespect him!

We still respects him as the first born

Respect is earn, not demanded for. I'm glad your brother respected himself and stay on his lane which made you guys to respect him. It is natural to disrespect a liability at that age who wouldn't respect himself

You think it's easy for someone to be crying over his elder brother? Even the mother dey cry with his old age. Op is going through a lot in that family. Op is not responsible for the family problem but look at how he carried the family problem on his head, when himself never find him bearing. Will you respect such an elder brother who doesn't respect himself? Ofcourse if he respect himself, Op should respect him. But if otherwise, you know the rest

DownTime44:
https://www.nairaland.com/7686172/been-restless-having-chat-elder


All thanks to everyone for their immense contributions towards my elder brother predicament. This place is truly home away from home. For those getting to know or who just come across this thread, you can read through the link posted above to get a grasp of where I'm coming from.


Someone sent me a mail having gone through my post and we both shared contact. He works on the island and he was willing to absorb my elder brother into his organisation. It's an organisation where one learn a skills and get paid monthly. Then after being certified in your skills, you can be employed as a full staff into the organisation. He would be given #20,000 monthly as stipend while learning as an apprentice but the man promised to be adding #10,000 to it making a total of #30,000 monthly. This person didn't know me from Adam but was touched by my brother's condition and he developed interest in helping him in his own little way. He asked me to inform my elder brother and get back to him.


I discussed everything to my brother verbally. Infact, i relate everything to him in my mother's tongue for ease of communication. I asked him if he has any interest in the offer and he said yes. He has interest. He's very much interested. He said he'd specialised in plumbing. I reached out to the man and we both finalise everything. He asked my brother when would he love to resume and he said month end. After the call, i asked him why month end and he said he doesn't have anything. He needs to get some few clothes, toiletries and some money for upkeep. I asked him where would he get money from less than 2 weeks to month end. He claimed if he can see any bus to work with. I told him you've been out of job going to a year, you didn't get any bus. Why do you think you'd get a bus within a short space of time? I asked him what if i rally round for him, is he willing to resume before the month end, he said yes with happy face. I borrowed #10,000 from a friend, i had #5,000 left with me, making a total of #15,000. I gave him 2 pairs of trousers and shirt i had. He bought a small school bag of #3,000 to put his clothes and he left in two days time. That was last week Wednesday. Oh! God, i was the happiest man on earth that very day.. I was so happy for him believing that he would become somebody from there. I called him to know if he has gotten there and how the work was. He said everything was fine.


I was surprised to see my brother at home on Friday, two days after he left. I asked him hope all is well? He said yes. I asked him why did he came back home so soon considering the cost of transportation to island. He was given a room he'd put up with. I expected him to stay there and focus on his job, whenever i have any money i would send to him. The man that helped him with the job called me later in the day. He narrated the gross misconduct of my brother. My brother left the job on Friday during working hours. The work is Monday to Saturday. Though Saturday is half day. He explained every details of the job to my brother before he resumed work. My brother was assigned to someone else to work with, not directly the man that helped him. The man only came to check up on him daily to know how he's fairing. The man was there when my brother took his bag, headed outside with the claim that he was going home. The man told him he can't go home now till after work, which is on Saturday. My brother didn't listen to the boss he was assigned with nor the man that helped him. He left right in their presence.


They do give daily report, and the man he was assigned with reported that he doesn't have anyone to work with, particularly on Saturday. The management asked him about my brother assigned to him and he said he has left on Friday. My brother was dismissed for his attitude. I pleaded to give him a second chance, but the man said it was beyond his power. The management has decided. I asked him to report there today and apologise for his gross misconduct. He went but apology wasn't accepted. If i was the man that helped my brother with this job or if i was among the management. I would do the same thing. I'd gladly lay him off without thinking twice.


My mother had been crying having heard the outcome of everything. I myself had cry my eyes out, all because of this my elder brother. I am fed up. The burden is too much. I might be tempted to harm him living under the same roof with him. I had been trying to console my mum but she wouldn't listen. Landlord came to harass her last week, the very day my elder brother left, because of house rent. I had 3 younger siblings to look after. Here comes my elder brother problem again. I am responsible for all of these with my meagre pay. I don't know what else to do for this guy. I don't think i can put up with him anymore. I am tired. Why is this life full of problems? I am losing my mind completely.

omo this life no just balance. This your brother need deliverance. I don't even know if you should ignore him or not. God will see you through.

Mantilla:
My friend got a job and once there was a slight opportunity he called me in sharp sharp..
Pray for your friends too there success might be your luncpad

call me too to any opportunity

CharlesJok3r:
He should drop out. There are better things he can do and excel at in life apart from school.

what are those things? Mind sharing

Davido
Wiskid
Tiwa
Asake

Acesexcell:
hello! I am a civil engineer in a government establishment and I want a change of career. How do I go about it

hello
Can you help me with a job in your establishment? Have been out of job after service.

Wagwanbrethren:
Someone should konk this one in the head. Face your trash God and leave that lady alone.
No be everybody go follow your useless religion, or practice wetin you believe na! 🤷‍♂️

This Kain one for don masturbate with her picture tire, but go start dey yarn trash once he gets to the pulpit so as to deceive em zombies for church! 🤮

Stop supporting nonesense. Dressing half naked doesn't make any sense. No sensible guy will take such a lady serious.

JungleJustice01:
Both parents have passed no will was left. I basically leave the rents collected from the house rent to my only younger brother.

Now the house is deteriorating and I want to fix it, like give it a major facelift but the funds will be coming from me entirely. I don't have a personal house of mine but I believe an overhaul of this place can give leverage to increase the rent as it is in a good part of town.

My fear is after this investment, will I be able to recoup any funds? If I am to pass away, will my kids have any access to the property?

I love my brother but I've heard and read stories of human behavior especially in situations where there is no documentation.

What do I do?

please you have two options

1. Don't bother renovate the house, sell it and share the proceeds

2. Leave the property for your brother and don't bother spending on it for renovation. Go and build your own house. Your brother should look for means to renovate the building himself from the proceeds he get

Brownshoe:
Ah! Ah! Why are this people like this , impossible, I collect my passport on Friday, I went there 7:45am, I collected it 6:35pm, the stress no be here, people plenty sha.

you can imagine. Was it the collection date given to you after capturing?

malaria:
Oga abeg I no sabi to much talk jare. Life is deep

please how is life deep?

MT:
If we are to follow your twisted logic and intelligence, everyone that tells people about their trips abroad would be deported back. Use your brain na.

One day, you will be privileged to travel to one of these oversea countries that you feel is next to paradise.

Why reaching a conclusion without the fact ? Think, mickey mouse.

why do Nigerians feel anyone travelling overseas has made it?

malaria:
No woman no cry
No friends, no enemies

please what does this mean?

Do you mean those who had women cry? Do you mean those who had friends had enemies?

OkoAmarashy:
Cho Cho Cho, posting everything online, talking like electronic parrots. Them swear for una? Must you inform your enemies that you have made it?

You are going to the UK and you put it on Facebook. Abeg, na foolishness kill this one.

please does it mean travelling to UK for study translates to making it or prosperity?

LeoDeKing:
Yet you were informed of chibok girls kidnap by bokoharam terrorists and you refused to take action after one month.

Money for the purchase of arms to fight bokoharam terrorists was shared Dasuki under your watch.

One good thing about you is that you accepted defeat in good faith and continued with your life leaving some headless mobs to continue killing themselves.

his administration is miles ahead and better than Buhari administration

albert2512:
Did mine in Jos boss.

now you're talking

You can't get driver's liscence for 12k in Lagos. I doubt if the brother can afford getting a driver's license in Lagos.

EKONGKING:
Buhari is the worst president in the world.

Tinubu would do well if he arrest the finance minister,CBN governor and that humanitarian minister aka buhari girl friend.

I swear

Those 3 people do us something

Mrfixiit:
Don't go against a man with grace because you will be disgraced. Peter Obi is God sent

you're obsessed with Obi nothing more. People carry Buhari for head for 2015 pass Obi. We see the outcome today

albert2512:
I don't get your point. Do u have any help you can render? If you don't, shutup!
I did my licence in a state for 12k. What are you now saying?

I don't think Op brother can get a liscence for 12k in this country o. He lives in Lagos. I doubt he can get a driver's license for 12k

onegig:
Yeah I believe there's a lot that the Government could have done to stem the tides of a lot things. Especially security. That's the last thing you want to be lax with . The kidnapping and armed bandits issues should have been nipped in the bud immediately it reared its head.

You can recover a lot of things but you can't bring back innocent lives cut short due to banditry, insurgency, armed none state actors etc. Most of these precipitated some inflation we experienced in the food industry. There were a ton of other government failures in terms of prompt action and response to absolute stupidity in handling most issues.

But we can't discount the impact of Covid etc in some aspects of inflation and the debt profile that we are currently facing. Also we set ourselves for failure. Anyone with a right thinking brain knew that if we continued the trajectory we were on in 2014 we would end up here but both leaders and followers love to hide behind the curtain and not face reality. Best time to have removed Subsidy was 2012, next best time was 2015. We wasted those years not removing such and we should face the consequences.

absolutely

During obasanjo, Yaradua and subsequently Jonathan regime was the best period to remove subsidy. The economy was still firm and crude oil has much more value in the international markets, unlike today

Yes, covid and Russia/ukreine crisis was another factor that affected us though

Yes, i was disappointed more under Buhari government in the aspects of insecurity. Honestly speaking he tried in infrastructure but what's the point of infrastructure with insecurity, unemployment, hyperinflation? These tree economy factors affects an average Nigerians much more than infrastructure. Corruption under Buhari administration was another problem.

I believe Nigerians didn't naturally hate Buhari, his poor performance in governance pave way for that.

I sincerely wonder how Tinubu will performmiracle with this present economy, insecurity, dept, unemployment, hyperinflation. Tinubu would inherit Buhari failure in almost all strata.

Removing subsidy now would obviously pose a threat to an average Nigerians. God should help us in this country. I don't want war seriously

lexy2014:
how does that answer these questions?

What's the relationship between your question and the comment you responded to? Does your question negate the comment?

what has Tinubu winning on the same party platform as Buhari got to do with the comment I made?

Tell us Buhari achievements if he has any

Mummyimbecile:
this is wise advice. I have said it here countless times, digital skill is the way to go.

I wish young Nigerians know what bringing out a month or two to learn a digital skill will earn you on Fiveer or Upwork.

When I was in Nigeria, I learned one and it helped me alot. I learnt web design and development.

I freelance, use geepay to convert my dollar and push it to my naira account.

Working on upwork will make you live what I call a baby boy lifestyle.

Imagine earning 3000 dollars a month. It's not easy if you start, but with time, you will reap the fruits.

A friend of mine just got a job. In the US, he will be coming to Connecticut next month. He is a data analyst.

can one learn digital skills without a laptop? I'm willing to learn but don't have a laptop