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Interesting. Not sure why people make such outlandish claim. Fraudster? Drugs? Is that all to do in Malaysia? So you dont know of NI\igerians working in Petronas or Schlumberger for example? Unlike you, I know Nigerians with work permit in Malaysia working in KL, Miri etc. Not everyone thinks and acts like you. Not everyone came to Malaysia to hustle or become a fraudster.

Check my profile and my posts very well. I am not cut out for such nonsense. If that's what you do dont expect everyone to be in league with you.

Hoodrat:
Wanaj I think u need to stop talking so loud infront the people who know so much about the wonders of malaysia
Stop the forming cuz there is no good job been given to nigerians I know malaysia like the back of my hand and raintree is asking u to shut up cuz you are most likely to be one of the fraud sters in malaysia
Under seen as a broda abeg no dey talk too loud cuz nobody belive what you claiming on here,malaysia sweet when it comes to fraud and drugs and been a 9ja hustler u will love to remain there cuz u really need the cash. So fem.

raintree:
See the bragging mouth talking again!
Did they put a gun on your head to kidnap you to come?

The shamelessness of an intelligent man like Wanaj0 is too much!

Shamelessness? Guess I touched a raw nerve Hopefully you will learn to be respectful and courteous.

They dont put a gun on someones neck when begging them to make their skills available.

Talking about kidnap, are you referring to this? I know they try not to talk about such things

Trio arrested shortly after they collected RM35,000 in ransom
http://www.thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2010/12/5/nation/7563001&sec=nation

I am here because I have a SKILL that is lacking but in high demand in Malaysia. I am here to help Malaysia in the sector that I am in. I never begged to apply to be here. I was head hunted and begged to come!

I see!!!

raintree:
You tell me!

Go back and lobby for import duties of 500% to be imposed on all exported goods to Nigeria. If you are successful, then come back and I will kowtow in front of you.

I'm not complaining, I can afford to pay the duties for my Vios and I'm enjoying it now. My brother bought a fully imported car, he paid for it and he ain't complaining too! So why the fuss? To each his own, I don't envy other people.

Oh please, stop the nonsense! White men are nothing to me. I prefer to work with them cos of their work culture, benefits and their generosity.

I'm no BN fan but I must give credit where it's due. Under their leadership, Malaysia is where it's today which is way ahead of your beloved country. That's the fact.

Go do a thesis on tribalism and politics in Nigeria and then compare which one is worse. Let me know your findings ok!

You and I are so different in our mindset. No wonder you are African and I'm Asian, we can't all be the same can we!

Lie That is rude and insulting!!! Why should I lie?

Why did I say that people should not import? Yes they should BUT Nigeria should not be turned to a dumping ground. How much duty/tax is paid on imported cars in Malaysia? Importation basically sustains other peoples economy. So you import what is necessary and that you are not able to produce. The rich that would like imported goods can do so paying 500% import duty! That way they can even buy imported tooth pick, toothpaste etc.

Stock market? Nothing to fear. Research has shown that over the long term, equity returns beats every other form of investment so I am not worried. I also have enough skill and expertise to have a well diversified portfolio that hand handle shocks.

White man? Yes quite a number of Malaysians still hold Caucasians in awe! Just short of worshipping them. Hope you are not like that.

Still trying to understand the political system here with parties established along racial lines! Seems crazy!!!

Need to get ma Batik ready. Need to make a presentation and attend a dinner in Sabah. Hopefully will get the MISC people to employ some Nigerians lol

How much to clear a 2009 VW Touareg?

Many is a relative world. But know a number of Malaysians working in Nigeria. There is a particular one in PH who has refused to come back to Malaysia. Met another one who was in Warri but back in Malaysia now. He speaks pidgin English like a Nigerian that the first time I met him it was his pidgin English that got me to notice him.

Smoking is not in clubs alone but even in office areas. It was a huge culture shock for me. I am a teetotaller so you can imagine my surprised when I see people puffing in your eyes at the lobby etc. People even take smoke breaks during meetings.

Difficult for anyone to start business in Malaysia. It is controlled by the Chinese. Even the Along business is controlled by the Chinese. It is 'illegal' but it exists. Difficult to beat the CHinese in business.

I dont subscribe to trading and turning Nigeria into a dumping ground. Contrary to what you may think, there are multinational companies producing those items you mentioned in Nigeria. I'm sure you are not aware that Procter and Gamble, Unilever and the likes are in Nigeria

Returns? Anything less than 30% per annum is BAD business for a Nigerian. We believe in 'doubling' our money within a short time.

RM1m capital? Hope you will match that amount also.

Yes Regular Jane that gets preferential treatment because of the Chinese heritage

Ha ha ha. Nothing beat stock business. Small effort with potential good returns. Easy way to have other streams of income.

Not read your archived posts. Anything interesting to read?

Ha ha ha ha.

Learnt that Sibu used to be a flourishing town and that many Malaysian millionaires were from there. However, seems things have gone down a bit now.

Yes I do go to East Malaysia (Sabah and Sarawak). Being to Miri, KK, Labuan, Bintulu etc. If you like Scuba diving or snorkelling KK is the place to go. Dont think there is any part of the world with such clean waters.

Yes leaving in Nigeria is quite challenging because of poor infrastructures although things are getting better. Would likely settle in the Western part of the country or the Niger Delta area. The opportunities in Nigeria are massive. Chinese are trooping to Nigeria in droves. Also the returns on investment is one of the highest. Most people that go to Nigeria dont want to come back. The bad things about Nigeria are always exaggerated while the good things are hardly talked about. However, I know that things are getting better. While Nigeria is not really a tourist destination, you however have a lot of expatriates working in Nigeria. So not as bad as you may think. We dont live on trees

No doubt about it, BLACK IS BEAUTIFUL. However, God made us all so I tend to appreciate people for who they are and not for their looks. The things that we see are temporal. One thing I like about Malaysians generally is that they tend to live a healthy life (apart from the smoking bit) and keep fit also.

Apart from the 'ALONG' business, not sure of any business with 'good' returns in Malaysia. Do you have any suggestions?

Chinese people hardly work for someone. Others work for them. So dont 'disgrace' your race! Be an employer of labour and employ many Nigerians lah

On Sunday, would be at the Chinese Village to savour steamed fish. A friend will be joining from Port Dickson. You will like some Nigerian food at least TOMATO rice (joloff rice we call it).

Well, Nigerians and Chinese have many things in common. I think Chinese are even worse when it comes to emphasis placed on a male child. Knew a family where almost everything was willed to the son leaving the girls with nothing. Is that the same with your side?

Tell your Chinese people to employ Nigerians

What is white controlled company? All companies are controlled by the Chinese. I love the Foochow. They own the whole of Sibu!

I have traces of all the tribes in Nigeria so I am a detribalise Nigerian.

Yes you can be my PA provided you will pay me.

Ha ha ha. Chinko So funny. Chinkos already control the wealth and economy so dont need any encouragement or preferential treatment. Being Chinese you should be able to EMPLOY us in any of your businesses

So which Chinese are you? Foochow?

Amanah Saham Bumi (ASB) is another nice one. Was counselling someone to go for the RM200,000 loan yesterday. Good investment.

Bought only two shares and 3 mutual funds here. Kencana and Supermax. I see growth in the glove sector.

Never being to Cape Town. Being only to Pretoria and J'oburg. Coldest for me I think was Aberdeen!

So who is the BEST employer in Malaysia? MMHE, MISC, MAXIS, PCSB? I definitely know that it is not PROTON lol

You can play very safe with mutual funds. Your EPF is a mutual fund but tend to invest in 'BAD' companies for political reasons. Thought Amanah Saham is meant only for BUMI's. Love your BUMI status lol. So you buy properties at discounts. Lucky you.

Yet to start the MBA. Planning to start with a UK university in Jan 2011. They have a campus in Singapore and hope to take some lectures at Sunway.

Yes I am an Engineer by TRAINING but something else by CALLING and another as HOBBY. My commonwealth or citizenship is in heaven. I am not Ijaw so you can score yourself.

No I am not looking for job. I have a work permit till 2012 BUT thinking of leaving for somewhere else before then. Iraq (operating from Dubai) or Naija is looking as likely destination.

Canada and Australia is out of it. Cant survive the cold. Nigeria is HOME and there I will be.

Up north where? Penang?

Where did wanaj0 claim to be among the who is who? Mind you, there is NOTHING that we have that we have not received from God. I am just your average JOE

raintree:
My friend, I play very safe. Right now, SUKUK, Amanah Saham & FD are my only source of little investments to carry me through the rough sea when it comes. Since I'm not rich like you and have limited fund, I don't wanna waste time in stocks and all that lah! Speculation causes me to have anxiety and sleepless night, I don't need the jittery. BTW, I peeped into your archive post and had a briefing on what you do. Out of 36 pages, 35 are into Stock Market Tips for Nigerians. I tired o! Anyway, it's too long winded for me to read.

Have you finished your MBA at the Aussie U yet? No wonder you want to retire in the Kangaroo land. I find the Aussies quite racists. I was in the tour group with them in Europe years ago and they did't want to mingle with this brown-skinned Regular Jane. If I were you, I'll pick Canada.

Let me guess again, you are an engineer by profession and tribe wise, an Ijaw same as your President Goodluck. What's my score this time?

Big property investor ke? Your score: 0% (You'll be shocked if I tell you. I never once claimed to be a who's who like Wanaj0.)

The lower the inflation the better for all the regular Joe and Jane in Malaysia. Don't you dare coming to my beloved country to speculate like George Soros who almost killed our economy as claimed by Dr. Mahathir in the late 90s. Don't touch my EPF, too.

Actually, I came to NL to learn about Nigeria in order to communicate with my Naija cyber friend. He's in Abuja. We've not met, not even in Sykpe or YM. We do emailing. I saw his pix in his blog but he has not seen mine. He was the one who taught me the slangs lah!

Originally from up north but now a permanent KL Regular Jane. Celebrating CNY with my family here lah, where else? Sorry, I'm in no capacity to help any Nigerian with employment cos I'm not an employer. Are you hinting to me you are actually looking for job in KL?

I am not Edo neither am I a banker or stockbroker! So you score 0% So poor.

You must be a BIG property investor.

She earns much less than RM10k BUT she is from East Malaysia on temporary transfer to West Malaysia so getting some allowance which boosted her pay a bit.

Not sure of your age, BUT if you are less than 40yrs, then you need to invest in mutual funds or stocks. Some stocks have returned 100% in the past 18months. Check out the glove companies (Super Max, Top Gloves etc). The Bursa has retuned back to the highs of 2008. If you've invested in 2008 you will be retiring now YOUNG AND RICH Only problem for me is that the returns in Malaysia is SMALL compared with Nigeria or other emerging markets. It's also partly due to the fact that inflation is low.

Actually, because of the 'politics' surrounding management of EPF the returns is poor. So what people do is to remove some funds from their EPF and invest in mutual funds. You also can do the same thing.

You must have Naija friends to know the slangs and to be 'hooked' to Nairaland lol.

Now is the time to be buying the USD or even AUD. The strenthening of the Ringgit is to your advantage. So quickly go on your holiday.

So where are you celebrating the Chinese new year? Hope you can help your Nigerian friends with employment. Thats what this thread is all about

raintree:
A Joint Management Body (JMB) is a committee consisting of the developer and purchasers of strata-titled property which have been elected in the AGM to run their common property. Basically we are duty bound with powers to maintain, enforce house rules, collect funds & charges, pay bills and etc. all of which fall under the Building & Common Property Act of Malaysia. I’m one of the 10 JMB members. It’s a voluntary work, we don’t get paid except for a small allowance for attendance. My committee is active and doing a real FINE job taking care of our apartment.

You must be a banker or some sort of a stock broker if my guess is right. Tribe wise an Edo. What’s my score?

All this while I opted to continue contributing 11% instead of 9% for my EPF. The employer’s statutory contribution remains unchanged at 12%. I don’t trust insurance company, so EPF is my only source of retirement savings for old age.

Why you say I have a number of Najia friends? Who are they, how come I don't them? No, I don’t. I only have a Naija cyber friend.

Malay is quite a simple language to learn for beginners. My friend, you must be thick skinned to learn language fast lah! Don’t mind una laugh out loud, you open mouth speak Malay like Naija pidgin. In no time you dey da’alu me for helping you go break record speed in mastering the Malay language. You know, every time I read a pidgin sentence that ends with a "am", I just crack up laughing. So funny! Have you noticed Chinese are multilingual in Malaysia? This gift is our invaluable asset when it comes to securing jobs.

RM800K ke? Gosh, not in my life time I have that kind of $$$. Seriously, how many % of Malaysians do you think are earning RM10K and above?
Talk about the strengthening of Ringgit, I bought USD2K early last year @3.59 thinking it was a damn good deal (Regular Jane here was planning to go for holiday that time lah. Didn’t get to go cos of the flu virus scare). See the exchange today! Sigh………………

Thumbs up to you You are not defeated though. You likely are not seeing what I am seeing or rather the circle you interact with do not face such challenges. So hold your head high.

How do I know? Well I interact with the people across all sectors. I get reports on the economy etc. I am interested in knowing about the people and culture of where I live. Only thing is that I am poor with languages.

What's JMB? The tightening of mortgages is to prevent a bubble. Many are buying properties for speculation just because of easy money (debt)! A junior friend bought a property under development worth RM800k. She earns less than RM10K! The rising of the Ringgit is affecting export and hurting the economy.

That said, the government is managing the economy quite well. The 2008/2009 recession was well handled. Did you notice that the EPF contribution has gone up again to 12% I think. It was reduced during the 2009 meltdown.

Malaysia Boleh!!!

Yes RCCG is a Nigeria Church. They have a number of branches around.

You seem to have a number of Nigerian friends

raintree:
Pardon me for my ignorance, which RCCG are you talking about? My googled info tells me it's a Nigerian church situated in Puchong.

I just got back from a JMB meeting not long ago. My president is a senior banker and he was telling us something similar to the effect of what you were saying about the pay, debts, cost of living, property investment, tighthening of mortgages, election next year, and etc. Guess what, he is on your side. I was just listening and didn't say anything about what I heard from you. Damn, I lose this time. Mr. Wanaj0, I owe you an apology.

Seriously, I didn't know we are in such bad shape and are standing on shaky ground. He actually advised us to live debt free and be prepared for the economic tsunami next year. Wow, that's scary!

What is it that you know that I don't know. How can a Naija man be my advisor on Malaysian economy, ain't right! Never mind, let this humbled regular Jane accepts defeat just for this time. One time only o!

raintree:
Wanajo0
I only go defensive when I hear false or half-baked statement.  You like to magnify issues and make them bigger when they are not.  

What do you mean by "Most are trustworthy but always careful when dealing with Chinese?"  Clearly you are stressing to him that Chinese are sneaky and not to be trusted.  Haba, why you dey make shakara now?  Wetin we Chinese do you?   Wan fight eh, nonsense!  

My dear, you dont have to be defensive. Never said that Chinese should not be trusted. However, when dealing with them, the rule is that they are out to maximise profit so you have to be on your guard. It is mainly in China Town that people haggle and bargain on prices. Thats why I said he should be careful. It's more of culture/style than any inherent bad thing. They are business savvy so one need to have that at the back of their life.

All the races in Malaysia have their weak and strong points. I have learnt to accept people for who they are. Also in every race you have the good and the bad. So I LOVE all because thats what God asked us to do.

RCCG here was established with the help of a Chinese brother that died last years December. May be going for the memorial service next month

Mind you I love Chinese food.

excoba101:
They are all the same. I even find the Chinese male more friendly than Malays. The Indian are nothing to write home about. Sorry

All can be friendly but when it comes to business, that is the difference.

excoba101:
I am 100% clean and can buy my ticket. I am just frustrated with the life style here.
There is no actual freedom here for us. I had to lie that i was Muslim to slip true police hands one night going to club at sunway.

Which freedom are you talking about? What did you do? Stopped ONCE by police while driving late in the night and there was no big deal. Showed them my papers and drivers license and off I go.

Only problem for me is language barrier.

Never said ALL Chinese were bad. Or maybe you can show me where I said so. I said I am always careful when dealing with them. And that is for VARIOUS reasons.

You always seem to be on the defensive. Haba!!!

excoba101:
If anybody will just book me a flight out of here i will grab it. I pay almost $1000 per month for house rent without job. Because i drive a foreign car, part most be inflated, in fact i am in debt. Always cheated by locals, can not communicate in English. Next year is bye bye to Malaysia for me.

Cheated by locals Why Most are trustworthy but always careful when dealing with Chinese.

All my transactions are handled by a local on my behalf. Being fortunate to meet the friendly and nice ones.

Rain Tree, no I am not Igbo BUT yes I am a Christian. I am not a business man. My ambition in life is not to make money. There is more to life than making money.

Golf is a relatively cheap sport in Malaysia. Being forced actually to take up golf.

Hmmm. While there are less developed areas in East Malaysia they do also have nice areas. I love KK. Love the islands there. Labuan is also not bad but it is a small place. They are laid backed because of their culture. They are not aggressive and most suffer culture shock when they come to West Malaysia. Most dont even want to work in West Malaysia. Then the issue of West Malaysians requiring work permit to work in East Malaysia is another issue entirely.

Mixed with all the races and they are all quite interesting. Never being badly treated in all my time here. Most people I've met are quite friendly.

Regular Jane? Most Chinese are not your regular Joe They may be simple but one should never take that for granted. They control the business.

How does someone earning RM1,500 (some are graduates) going to afford the basic needs in Malaysia without being in debt. I have a CV of a woman on my table who graduated 12yrs ago from an International University and her pay is RM3,700 a month. For such qualification and experience with the cost of living that is small. Total household income is less than RM10k. Not easy for them lah! To get the basic needs they have to depend on credit card lol. Funny bit is that even BIG and RICH companies cannot pay higher because of government/Petronas regulation. BTW, the lady I am talking about is working with Scomi Rail. Used to work with Maybank, Measet and Astro. Still her pay is that low.

One other thing is that Chinese workers are better paid than other races even if they work in the same company

MM2H is not attractive because nothing fantastic about the terms. It use to be RM250k before but I think it is now RM350k.  Australia/Canada offer better terms. For my profession Malaysia does not offer enough challenges for me to decide to retire here.

Good that you dont smoke, drink or gamble. You must be the insignificant few. One of the culture shock I had was the rate of smoking and drinking here. Used to have a junior colleague that I was shocked at her smoking rate! She is Chinese Malay to start with! Except those smoking and drinking are getting their supplies from Labuan or any of the tax free zone, they will be in serious debt definitely 

Doing just fine is relative term. A lot also depends on people you interact with. I have being opportuned to interact with people of various social status thats how I got to know of the low pay and even high debt. Good thing is that Malaysians are generally contented and in a way laid back especially people from Sabah and Sarawak. The Chinese are a bit different. They are more aggressive and daring. You must be Chinese to think everyone is coping fine lol. A friend just told me that the wife's uncle is Robert Kuok. No wonder he goes to gamble at Ghenting regularly. Maybe you are like that too

As per Alongs, MANY people patronise them. You will be SHOCKED.

MM2H Not attractive for me.

Yes many Koreans coming. An area around Ampang is full already. Also in KK many flights from Korea.

I dont naturally like food but found out that Malaysians like and celebrate food lol.

Malaysia is a good country. However like all countries, you have the good, the bad and the ugly. You need to go to East Malaysia more often.

Do you play golf? Everybody in Malaysia play golf. So taking training now lol.

raintree:
Oga Wanaj0

Now I see your problem! You as an expat is bringing home $$$ in either USD or EURO, how can you possibly compare MYR pay with those big currencies? Not fair at all. Our $$$ signs are different hence we see things in a different level too. You are a patron in an air-con restaurant while this regular Jane here is quite happy slurping her bowl of curry mee in an open-air kopitiam. That's how we stretch our monthly budget, no wahala see!

My friend, you don't give up do you, I think you have emphasised enough that pay is low in Malaysia? Give us a break, at least we don't blame the British for our woes. Once again Sir, THE MAJORITY OF US ARE DOING JUST FINE! The percentage of people going to Alongs to pay their bills is not a national concern as far as I know, we don't need debt restructuring like Ireland.

Let's remain anonymous. It's more fun, this way. Aiyah, I don't like fish lah (except ikan bilis), they are too pungent for my liking. I got fish bone stuck in my throat when I was little so now I avoid fish like the plague.

Hey, many Naija peeps in this forum are talking about returning home for retirement, what say you? I think you should consider taking the "Malaysia My Second Home" option lah. Our belacan is just too delicious for you to leave behind. Then again, expats don't normally stay permanently in one place. Do you know Koreans are flooding Malaysia like they have found hidden gold which Malaysians have no clue of? Now that AirAsia is flying there, you will see more Korean restaurants sprouting around KL soon.

The post was flagged as a spam.

You need to meet the 'Alongs' to appreciate the debt problem. Like I said, not trying to put Malaysia down! Just telling you the reality. Pay is low and debt is getting high.

There are squatters all over the world, you may be oblivious of it.

Good that you have a good lifestyle that is keeping you debt free. It is not the same for a lot of Malaysians. The pay even for those working in the oil industry is 'poor'. Partly because PETRONAS regulates the pay.

Yes the economy is well diversified. The population is small and more importantly Malaysia has VERY GOOD infrastructures.

Yes I thank GOD for the opportunity and the grace. Dont compare yourself with me lah! You need to know my age to appreciate that I have paid my dues. As an expat, I have a better deal.

If you are in KL, we can makan together. Steamed fish with nice gravvy at Cina Village around Jalan Delima lol

raintree:
Saw your post in the thread once and then it got disappeared. So I went and searched for it in your profile. Smart, kan!

I was in Sabah two months ago for the very first time and heard from the locals that pays there are minimal but the cost of living is much higher than in Peninsular Malaysia. Rents are high and food are expensive. This I don't deny it.

Abeg, I was comparing cities like Bangkok, Manila and Jakarta with KL. Squarters are littered around those cities, KL is by far still the best which is why you are here, admit it! The fact that you are staying in Mont Kiara tells me you are doing way better than me, good for you. Keep it up! Naija Boleh!

Indeed household expenses have gone up quite a bit over the years and those in the lower income group are finding it hard to make ends meet. I personally have not experienced much impact cos I don't need much to live. Your lifestyles and mine are different, I'm VERY contented and yet not a Malay.

Your staff must have tryna save some money and insured her car less than the market value. Now she's paying for it. Another possibility is that her car was repossessed by the bank because of her inability to service her loan up to date and she's too ashamed to tell the truth.

Didn't any of your colleagues here tell you that it's common for Malaysians to take loans for long-term payables; which is why our banks are doing fantastic job of netting profits which go up, up to the sky! But most loan-takers can still pay back, no problem lah! Our NPL is manageable, don't be so negative (biku), have more confident in our Malaysian economy.

How did you see my missing post? lol

My friend Malaysia is not only KL. That you dont have 'squatters' does not remove the fact that the pay is poor and that the household debt is rising. I did not make up that story so was surprised when you posted that what I said is UNTRUE. You know the truth so abide by it. I can post stories from THE STAR or STRAIT TIMES or even BORNEO POST.

Now go to Sarawak and Sabah to see real squatters area.

Mind you, I never said Malaysia is a bad place. That I stay in Mont Kiara does not mean that I dont know what goes on around me.

People are not defaulting because they are paying the minimum 5% on their credit card loans but the debt is growing so much that they cant pay back. Many our speculating in the property market which was why government came up with new policy on mortgage loans recently to prevent the type of America sub prime mortgage.

Major thing about Malaysians (Malays and Bumis), is that they are VERY contented.

One of my staff bought a car on loan, car was stolen, thought car was insured but coverage not enough to replace the car (dont ask me why). Now she is making loan repayment on a car she does not have and she cant afford to buy another car.

I know people that are helping their children to pay their loans! So I know what I am talking about

raintree:
This is in reply to Wanaj0's missing post.

I’m not being defensive. I live in KL, I mingle with people around me and all of them are doing just fine even with their mortgages. Yes, we often criticise our government this and that but deep within us, we are grateful that we are fairing much better than our neighbouring countries like Thailand, Philippines and Indonesia. Tell me, how many squatter areas have you seen in KL?

If we are indeed living in debts like you so claimed, at least many of us have a roof over our heads and a car to drive around and are responsible enough to pay our bank instalments.

There’s no doubt we have the poor and over-spent people among us. I agree with you the pay for factory workers/labourers sucks. Part-timers are being paid peanuts like RM5 per hour. For desk jobs, you gotta find your niche and work your way to get the best deal preferably from a multinational company.

Now back to your question, economically speaking, PAY and DEBT are very much related to one’s standard of living (SOL), abi no be so?
My simplified explanation: Got $, SOL >; No $, SOL <. So don’t worry about us, right now we can still afford to pay our "Wanaj0" debts.

raintree:
^^^
You're not being truthful here. Who says most Malaysians are living in debts? Yes, cars are rather expensive here but most average earners can still afford to own at least a Malaysian made car. I won't consider taking a hire purchase financing as living in debts cos so long as we are working, there is no problem for us paying off our bank instalment within the agreed duration. Time flies when you work, so before you know it 5 years is behind you like a blink of an eye.

I don't think you want to be a factory worker, do you? Surely you can do better than that.

Last, I can assure you quite a few of us are doing better than the so-called banker that you often quote to justify the low-paying jobs in Malaysia. We may not be rich but we live quite comfortably here.

What is not true in what I said? What is the average pay? What is the average monthly expenditure? How much mortgage do people pay? How many are debt free? That you make your payment when due does not mean you are not in debt. Dont even talk of credit card debt with people making ONLY the minimum payment. Did you read about the average household debt in Malaysia?

Pay in Malaysia is POOR which is why most Malaysians (especially Chinese) would rather work outside. Even those working with Shell are leaving for Qatar etc. The doctors are going to Australia.

promise2:
@ Wanajo, thanks for your contribution here, are you saying that buying stuffs in Dubai is better than buying in Malaysia? or is because Malaysia is very far and ticket fare expensive.

Please explain further this will be appreciated, like comparing Malaysia and Dubai in terms of shopping cheap and quality stuffs

It depends on what you want to buy. PERSONALLY, I am more comfortable buying things in UK. I find it cheaper than Malaysia. Also current strength of the Malaysian currency has made things relatively expensive - I am talking in terms of clothings, shoes etc. Had to buy shoes for people in Malaysia! My experience also shows that the devaluation of the $ against major currencies has made things in the US relatively cheaper.

Anyway, it all depends on the market that you have.

You can check at PARKSON or METROJAYA for price comparison. Those are two of their 'local' stores.

Its a function of interest and the market you have in Nigeria.

Electronics are fairly priced BUT cheaper in the US.

You can get clothes also BUT cheaper in the US/UK also.

Laptops is one where you can get some good deals. However, the strengthening of the Malaysian currency is making their goods expensive.

Lest I forget, building items/fittings are relatively cheap. Furniture also is cheap but it is prohibited products in Nigeria.

suxes2005:
i spoke with a friend in malaysia, all nhe told
me was that unles you want to do factory job,

according to his own level dia, he can get one
such type of job, i neva asked about the pay cos
i cant do it,

SHALOM

Pay in Malaysia is not fantastic especially when you consider the cost of living! Most are living on debt. And cars in Malaysia are the most expensive in the whole world!

Pay for entry level banker is about RM2.5k per month and after all allowances maybe RM2.8k

Factory workers will be paid less than RM1k.

Malaysia is not the place to come to hustle. However, if you get a good job, it is a good place to live as an Expat!

suxes2005:
Sure you are right, I think Abuja should be easier
but here in Lagos, dem dey craze like mad, bunch of thieves

SHALOM

Yes because they know that people are desperate and dont know their rights. Thats why they target first timers. Key is to be cool, composed and dont be nervous.

Freedom of movement is part of your fundamental human right and no one has the right to stop you from travelling out. People can ONLY deny you entry to their country.

My advice to people is to travel with the same documents they used to apply for the visa.

You dont need to bribe anyone at immigration. When you panic and dont know your right thats when the problem start. Immigration does not have the right to stop you from travelling when you are not a security risk!

Always arrive early so that you will not be under stress.

Someone just went on the Christian pilgrimage and did not have to 'settle' anyone. Left from Abuja though.

suxes2005:
@Poster, I was at the airport yesterday
cos of my friend was about to leave for
Malaysia

Thesame story guy, you must settle immigration
so far u r a 1st time traveller or u r holdin a social
visit visa. Even if u hold $3k for bta it might not work
cos dos pple r crazy.

All you need do is talk to people dat knows pple and let
them connect u wit an immigratio officer who will help
u wit clearance, A guy used $1k to bail his 'P' yday

SHALOM

There are Nigerians working in Malaysia. If you have 'special' skills, you get the job and the company sort out the work permit for you.

People come to study in Malaysia for various reasons. Most actually come to get UK degrees in Malaysia.

Also Malaysia provides exposure for a lot of people.

Now, if you dont have money, please dont come.

Yes there are Nigerians working in Malaysia. Few in Petronas and about 6 in Shell. Some are also with Schlumberger. Most are however FAKE students. You also have a few lecturers also.

Malaysia is not 'tolerant' to immigrants. They only want 'maids' from Indonesia (those are not willing to come again), Vietnam and maybe Philippines.

Dont expect to work in Malaysia though. It's possible BUT very difficult!

The only thing cheap in Malaysia is probably hotel and to some extent food. However, over the past one year, the Malaysian currency has gone up so much that has made things expensive.

There is no 'genuine' laptop for RM1k in Malaysia. You can get genuine NETBOOK for like RM1.2k

RM300 for food for how many weeks? How many times do you eat in a day? Depending on where you eat, you can have a meal for like RM10 or if you go to Nandos, it can be like RM25.

For shopping, UK is far better and easier though I found Canada as the cheapest.

Bukit Bintang is the tourist area but not the best place to shop. MidValley Mega Mall is better for shopping. Malaysians hardly shop at Bukit Bintang.

Not sure the reason for Egypt Air. Emirates or Qatar airways seems better and good price also depending on when you book. 200k should do for a return flight.

Dont Come to Malaysia in first week of February. Chinese New year around that time and every one will be on holiday.

Malaysia is particular about race. The Indians are the worst treated with the Malays (not the same as Malaysians) as the special breed. Chinese controls the economy while Malays have political power.

For those into business, household fittings are quite cheap here. Tiles, doors, Bath tubs etc. The varieties are also many.

Visa fee is about N1k! Yes you need vaccination card. First time travellers also require NDLEA certificate.

Instead of travelling to far away Malaysia, why dont you travel to Dubai?