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nextstep:
By the way, we're already producing an average of 30kWH of energy per day. This means we can keep the lights on, charge our phones and laptops, as well as run an efficient fridge indefinitely, without caring about PHCN or fuel scarcity. I personally designed and manufactured the highly-efficient (prototype) LED lights we're using, and I'm proud that they've run without issues for weeks now.

(I'll post pictures soon)

Manufactured Interesting

NOSPETCO here we come

brabus:
I'm talking about the same truth Ocholi refused to hear.

That you bought 2015 model Lexus does not exempt from road accident if you don't do the safety checks?

Check tires.
Check that the car is not overloaded
Put on safety belt
Maintain the speed limit
Shout on the Overspeeding Professional driver
If he no wan hear, stop the journey and take over your ride.

Of course, Ocholi has the right to sue Lexus for manslaughter because he paid in full.

Now I understand your way of thinking. I hope other builders are not like you. All the best.

gabbytabby:
I know some who went to tender for a contract with them and he came away to say the money on offer was not worth it.

Good way to go. However once the CONTRACTOR agree to do the job at an agreed price to the required specification, he cannot claim that he did a poor job because the money was small. He was not forced to agree to do the job.

brabus:
Oyb,

I built 2 units of detached duplex for a Nairaland in 2012 and the client insisted that they want independent consultants (structural, mechanical and electrical) to double check my work. Each of them had nothing less than 20 years of experience. This is outside the estate project managers and architect who come in at every critical stage of work to check conformity with standard.

Why did the do that? To be sure they bought piece of mind. Not to show off.

Now we are talking about mass production of multi-floor building projects in a reclaimed land. Then I'll fold my arms.

See me as your consultant in this case. Na so I go blame you.

The estate is Diamond Estate, Sangotedo which is not a reclaimed land. You can make further enquiries.

You are comparing apples with oranges. A client (Lekki Gardens) contracted you (A Contractor) to build 2 units of detached duplex for him (Lekki Gardens). The client (Lekki Gardens) now have Consultants to SUPERVISE the work that you are doing to ensure that the CONTRACTOR builds according to specification. If the client (Lekki Gardens) is selling the house to a subscriber, you can see that the subscriber is not involved. It is purely Client vs Contractor relationship. That also governs the roles, responsibilities and liabilities

The underlying principle has nothing to do with type, location or complexity of job. It is all about contractual relationships.

brabus:
Baba Beulah09, I'm not professional. Pls treat my case differently.
I'm just happy the project has not been handed over with live loads increased. Maybe you'll appreciate my way of reasoning much better.

As you lay your bed, so you'll lie on it.

For the records, the Atlantic City project started before The Horizon. You'll see the difference between projects in there. The subscribers of the Atlantic City can build 10 Lekki gardens at once but they choose to wait until all (including the Great Wall of Lagos) that the promoters promised are in place.


So talk to me about Pros using pro and not wisefool using supposed Pros.

Pls note, I'm not holding brief for Lekki Gardens. I'm just trying to advice buyers not to be hasty in making decisions. Not all that glitters are gold. Forget the Pro talk. In few days, we will see the names of those who are involved in the collapsed building project.
Even though I have a feeling, man know man, person know person approach will be adopted since most of the deaths recorded are foreigners.

The CONTRACTOR and the MD of Lekki Gardens are already in court. If anything, they will have case to answer with respect to gross negligence and professional misconduct.

allCopacetic:
Also available, Schneider and ABB accessories and distribution Boards.

When we do business, it's guaranteed to be "All Copacetic" , you can take that to the bank!

Kindly show the range of Schneider products that you stock. I am interested in the Neo Range if available.

TLAX:
Its not unusual to have this kinds of situations during construction even in built up areas. Nothing wring with that especially even the contractor restores to condition he met it or better as soon as possible. Lekki II is jot really a built up area so nobody is being inconvenienced for now. I will take Brabus to the gallows if after construction he fails to clear the drainage, build proper culverts and fixes that portion if the road his trucks have obviously damaged...of course this is expected to be taken care of by the landlord.

Nothing wrong with blocking drainage during construction work? Na wa ooooooooo.

Why BLOCK the drainage throughout the duration of the construction work only to clear it AFTER construction is completed? Why not build the RAMP NOW to create access to the plot? What is the effect of a blocked drainage?

YES, many people block drainages during construction work BUT it is WRONG. That Brabus does not know that it is WRONG says a lot about his professionalism!

Brabus, you have a penchant of JUSTIFYING and RATIONALISING ALL your actions!

It was pointed out that you blocked the drainage. Initially, you denied it. Now you are traying to rationalise why you are RIGHT to have blocked the drainage! How many more WRONG things will you do and still try to rationalise and justify?

No one is perfect. We all do make mistakes. We do make wrong choices. The difference is accepting and making ammends.

All the BEST.

brabus:
Haa! We can't block the communal drainage. The sand will be removed from gutter and proper drainage will be constructed.

There's plan to reconstruct the entire drainage. The current one is weak.

You have blocked the drainage. Quite unprofessional. There are other sensible ways of creating access without using sand to block the drainage system. Nothing to be proud off.

While indeed there was robbery at around 6.05 and 6.10am there was no gun shot and no one was killed or injured! It was more of hoodlums taking advantage of the traffic to rob innocent motorists.

Let us be FACTUAL in our reporting.

How much per sqm for AC3 12mm thick?

You did not include the prices.

Do you also stock Schneider switches and sockets especially the NEO series.

London Cool, 9" blocks at N220 is a No No. That to me is a RED FLAG.

It is obvious people do many things they are not professionally competent to do in Nigeria.

While client gives a brief, the correctness of the design lies with the professional that puts his seal on the design. Part of the problem in Nigeria is that peopke just regurgitate designs that they dont understand. Once asked for the structural calculations for a building and there was none. Calculations for sizings of ACs not provided. Calculations supporting the height of the water tank not available. So you ask, what is the basis of the decision? Foundation design done without a soil test! What calculations were done for the plumbing works? Was there any electrical load calculation?

Designs in Nigeria is copy and paste. No attention to detail. A colleague from UK did the mechanical design (just a sketch) for a building and peopke were amazed!

We need to be professional or else quacks with presentation skills will take over the industry!

Someone talked about the strength of a block and use throwing it from a 4m height as an example. That already shows that the person does not know the concept of STRENGTH. Do we even do random tests of the blocks? Do we test the concrete we use?

AC3 or AC4? How much per square metre?

KolaShangOne:
About the clay pots, @Abdulwastecx got it spot on, exactly like in the books.. I think he should be a lecturer..

I will like to add that they should be used in areas where there wont be too many live loads. That is, don't use on walkways etc..

Imagine you could reduce the cost of a decking from 1.5 million to about 900,000... That's mega cost saving in these hard times..

@Lastpage First of all, glad to know you and Hajj have become best of friends.. Secondly, don't be afraid your decking won't fall off at all

@HajjMufutau "Do not be afraid. Thus sayeth the Lord.." Let us use you as the clay pot lab rat.. .

The cost savings will come if the building has long span. Otherwise, there is hardly any cost savings.

I know a building that the deck was done in a similar way (used blocks instead of clay pots).

EgunMogaji:
It's sad to read from seemingly educated folks who have given up completely.

Nigeria is doomed if what I'm reading is a sectional of the real populace and not just online whimperings.

No wonder the foreign entities are coming in and making a killing financially.

Theory is different from practice. The legal framework is just not there. Difficult to get justice via the Nigeria legal system. Almost impossible to enforce contracts.

Do you know any other part of the world where workers go unpaid for 8months? Any part of the world were workers go on strike for 6months? Those are the reality on ground. In Nigeria, agreements are hardly worth the paper they are written on.

gabbytabby:
He had admitted to not having a formal sector specific paper qualification and I do not think that this is the issue it's more a question of integrity and moral compass or lack there of.

It is the issue. When hospital attendant become a consultant overnight, there is a problem. People are being asked to do job above their competencies. The outcome is what you see here. A professional will be guided by the ethics of his profession. A quack has nothing to fear. A professional can have his license revoke. A quack has nothing to lose.

Nexthome and others with passion for building should have competent and certified professionals in their team.

I don't think Johnny is the only one at fault here. The client also at fault and I hope that others will learn from this.

How many here will allow a nurse to carry out an operation on your child? Brabus, Johnny and most of the builders dont have the requisite training, competency and experience to do the kind of jobs given to them to do.

When you have failure of a structure, you look for the structural engineer. Was there a structural drawing for this building? Was the drawing followed by Johnny? Was there any structural engineer that confirmed that the work was done as per the design?

I know that Nigeria is a country where an hospital attendant will claim to know more than a consultant in a teaching hospital. The value of the consultant is known when things go wrong.

For the builders who may not have the necessary certification and competency, get the required professionals to work with you. Once the building is not a bungalow, get a structural engineer. Even for your electrical works, get a certified/registered electrical contractor. Someone that have the tools and instrument to detect faults!

For clients, stop patronising QUACKS all in the name of saving money. Not asking people to waste money BUTensure that works are propely designed and the design followed to the letter.

Johnny has built a bungalow before and that's where it should stop.

Brabus is an IT person so surprised at how he became a building professional overnight. He needs reall building professionals to work with him.

We all need to understand our limitations and not present ourselves for who we are not.

In civilised countries, many here will be behind bars for impersonation!

Titles/names are used loosely on Nairaland.

Johny is definitely not an engineer. Same with Brabus.

When I hear of collapse structures, I always wonder who the structural engineer is. That is enough to cause him ti lose his license.

As per diverting money etc, it is partly because people are not trustworthy and partly because some cannot resist temptation. When you pass like N15m through someone, dont be surprised when such people start to get ideas.

integrity and respect for contract is holding us down as a nation.

You did not include your prices.

topsy23:
Yes I know what you are talking about. I have talked to my guy that he should help me llok for it. But ttey ve nice brand like ultimate and S_series also

Thanks. Let me know what you find out.

topsy23:
The switch is schneider NEO series. The price of 1-gang 2 way is 1,300. It is the most expensive product of schneider. I can mail you the price list if you need it

This is what I was looking for.

Thanks. Saw that you used it in one of your projects.

Any idea of the cost of the Schneider Neo Series switches and sockets? Do you know where one can get them to buy?

Is this land still avaliable?

Where is the location? Which local goverment? CofO? Hmmmmm

Yes ooooo. Happy Married Life.

Ok. Sent to your email.

What's your budget? What of Samonda old airport?