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Well, WEMA is on Technical suspension so except you are in it for the long time, expect a long wait. Now, if you are not a technical trader, be careful with the 'bull' run. Some people will 'manipulate' the market to get some gains beased on the fall in the insurance stocks. So be at alert. Don't follow the herd mentality. The release of the funds should lead to more funds being available in the market not necessarily to buy insurance stocks. It may fuel appreciation in other sectors of the markets. Union Bank, well, I will be careful. This is an interim result which may not reflect what the audited result will be. Same for fidelity that released its Q1 result just after extending the closure of the offer. Why extend the closure of the offer? Is it out of fear that it may not be as successful as expected? Was the result released to stimulate interest? As per Nigerian German, bought at 12.00 not too ,long ago. If it reaches 25.00 will sell ONLY to Shigidi!!!! He was looking like lucozade when everyone was buying. Seriously, other options are out there.I love UNIC and it will be on my top list of insurance companies. Crusader looks good but I am wary of their new offer that they are planning. NEM, don't have the full figures but I am impressed by the turn around. No panic buying now. Stick to your strategy. Don't go on a buying spree or else you will have your fingers burnt. On Globe Re, Globe Re merged with Niggerian Re with Nigerian Re supposedly the surviving entity. However, there is a lot of power play involved. Formerd MD of Globe Re that begged Jimoh Ibrahim to acquire Globe Re via Nigeria Re is now the NAICOM commissioner!!!!!! So expect more court cases. Jimoh will not go down without a fight and that will affect the insurance sector |
aquita:I always tell people that DOING is the best book. You need to get involved. Many things you will not learn/understand until your money is involved. Read the various actions taken by people on WEMA. It is a function of who they are not necessarily any 'book' recommnedations. www.cobeco.net www.investorpedia.com are very good sites to use to understand the jargon. Now the NIGERIAN market is however different OOOOOOOOOO. No text book go teach you about the NSE. As you start, you will gather experience. |
aktopgun:The problem is not whether it can be done but how you would react if things go in the opposite direction. I have friends who collected loans to buy WAPCo etc. Once it is a 'loan' people just react differently. That to me is teh problem. Except you are able to keep your emotions under check, then don't venture near it. Just like forex trading, you need discipline. Unfortunately, most people lose that once borrowed funds is involved. Not for or againt. But be sure your 'nature' can accommodate it or else you get your fingers burnt big time. BTW, with the continual fall of the US$, that may be the money to borrow. |
RoughCut:One major issue with investment is managing your emotions. It becomes more difficult when you have borrowed money involved. Most often your emotions take over the decision making process. You will be surprised at the kind of decisions people make once borrowed money is involved. Panic becomes the key word! |
Chellarams still holding forth. waiting for Nigerian German to start another rally. Facing resistance at the 19.00 mark. RoughCut:Yes interest rates are much lower. But when you use a loan/margin, your emotions tend to get more into your reasoning. have many around me now passing through 'counselling' for using short term loans (one year) for long term investment (capital market) For you to do that successfully, you must be a technical trader. I'm sure you know that technical traders tend to take on much more risks. |
MyPeace:Red Star Express is the company that is listed and not FEDEX. So the revenue/profit of FEDEX does not impact on Red Star Express at all. I think Red Star is planning for an IPO. No date yet but it was mentioned not too long ago. |
AS at the tme of the private placement of Red Star Express, it was a STRONG BUY. Unfortunately, IBTC rationed the thing! Can't lay my hand on the prospectus right now. |
Red Star will be listed tomorrow. Place order and hope you get to buy. ![]() Wema seems to have lost steam. No 5% gain today. Chellarams is still on the move. AP result not that impressive |
alliednetw:Dwindling performance!!!! |
jehosaphat:2008 is still far so softle softly. Many things can still happen. Based on what I know now, Dunlop will be a good candidate especially at a price of about 2.50. Flour Mills is also solid. Depending on actions in the petroleum marketing sector, I am looking seriously at OandO. Next year may just be their year. May and Baker is also on my list. Same for Nigerian German which is a very good stock by my reckoning. However, lets wait and see 2008 first. Our time are in HIS hands. |
jehosaphat:Nothing yet on Obajana. They will have to file an application first with SEC before you even start to talk of timing. So, let's wait for that. |
Geees:Well, he adviced them to sell their shares to STANBIC. If they don't na there own be that. He siad he was selling and expect others to sell. If he was not selling, no way the merger/acquisition would have succeeded. As per PRESCO, that a deal that went awry! IBTC was the underwritter for an offer that was undersusbcribed. Same thing they did with First Aluminium. They ahd to pay up for the shares that were not atken up. It was so much that they got seats on the board of the two poorly performing companies!!!!! |
Geees:Peterside never believed in the consolidation exercise. He tried to halt it but like a moving train, Soludo pressed on. He still want to practice only investment banking. Not interested in retail banking at all. Rather unfortunately for Chartered, the ECO-Chartered planned merger did not hold. Hence they could only go the way of IBTC. Peterside simply cashed out by selling to Standard Bank. He is tired of the Nigerian Banking environment. He was basically left behind. He is no longer the MD but now chairman of the new bank. Same wat TM Mbu was the chairman of Stanbic! Figurehead!!! tonyjon:Manufacturing can always raise money. With the rule of underwritting all offers, who will underwrite most of the manufacturing companies? With bad infrastructures they are not attractive to investors. Check the NSE and see where the trades are. Even if the banks are not out, investors will rather buy the banks on the NSE rather than the so called Onwuka Biz type of manufacturing companies. The good ones still have takers. But it is no longer an allcomers affair. Ask Transcorp. At a time when Dangote Sugar and Dunlop were seriously OVER subscribed, Transcorp was a paltry 26%. It is not the banks preventing the manufacturing from coming out. Dunlop, may and Baker, Dangote, Ja Paul just showed that. For those that cannot, they can go for loans at least the interest rate is coming down! |
[quote author=no_shaking link=topic=31554.msg1666136#msg1666136 date=1194628089]Food for thought!!! According to NSE DG on TV today, about 5 banks recently submitted application re. public offers and were told to hold fire for now till NSE seeks further clarification with the CBN re. the likely adverse effects of this avalanche of banks' POs on the economy etc Besides, she opined that the banks are beginning to muscle-out the mfging companies etc from successful outing of their respective IPOs and that this has to be swiftly mitigated. More importantly, the govt is beginning to seriously moan , ! And everyone seems to have serious reservation against banks coming back to the market the second/third time all within 3 years. Question is - what happenned to the 3 year biz plan they submitted in their then prospectus during their initial IPOs/POs (, coming back to the market wasn't part of the plan?? I tire o!!). Anyway, let's see how the whole situation would unfold itself , This is Nigeria! We've heard all these before!!![/quote]Manufacturing firms don't need to raise equity, they can use debt especially with the stability of the exchange rate and fall of interest rate. With well capitalised banks, the environment has changed. While I understand the concerns of the manufacturing companies, if they are good enough, let them come. Dangote came, BAGCO is coming even Ja Paul did teh same thing. May and Baker came last year. Eterna Oil did the same this year. So no point complaining. They should compete for the funds. We don't want another Onwuke Intertek type of IPO's again. As per the banks business plans, you fine tune based on current realities. The banks can now see the opportunity in being big so they don't want to waste time. You you do, you will get swallowed like IBTC. Don't forget that CBN also modified the rule by talking about the $1bn shareholders fund to manage the reserves. Who will not want to manage the reserves. $500m is not a joke. Expect the banks to get bigger. Plan of CBN is to have Nigerian banks in the top 50-100. He said this some two years ago. So we better prepare for more of the offers, GDR, debt etc. With FG saying that JV funds for the oil industry will now be sourced through banks, you will soon see the banks going for $10b shareholders funds. If FBN took all its subscription, they will be close to the $5bn mark by now! Mind you First Bank last came to the market 2003 and that was even a rights issue. |
Chellarams still holding steady. Good one. Capital Oil also still advancing. Transexpress no surface for market. |
pumping777:Thought they did an IPO. I just hope the figures are right. The owners of Ikeja Hotels and Tourist Company are the same and I don't think they are well managed neither are they reaping huge profits. Just be sure that the figures are right and thread with care! |
ferugio:Interest ? That na awoof money for the issuing house/registrars. Now you know why some offers take a long time. First Bank will just be getting the money now.easimoni:Ikeja hotels ke ? Softly softly OOO. What is the difference between Ikeja hotels and Tourism company of Nigeria? |
RoughCut:CBN will not give any of the BIG bank the approval to raise convertible debt that will make them target of a takeover!!!!! It is not a matter of Soludo fooling anyone. His point is simple, let them come and establish in Nigeria. They can come and establish the BIGGEST bank here and compete. But to just come and acquire one of our own BIG banks, that's what he said CBN will not allow. Hope you know that your Access, FCMB and co are not aprt of the BIG banks ![]() |
MyPeace: |
RoughCut:That na old news! Foreign investors will not be allowed to take over our 'BIG' banks. However they can come and establish there own BIG bank in Nigeria. Equity is not the only way of raising capital. You can use debt to also raise capital. Soludo will put a cap so as to prevent a take over. If they need money, banks can use debt to raise the needed capital. |
MyPeace:well when you get, you go allocate am to me OOOO. BTW, if I am the architect of my life who is the builder ?? |
RoughCut:Don't know whether you should keep Access. But do your calculation and you will see that Access has delivered superior shareholder returns. That is a fact. You are angry with the reconstruction that reduces your number of units but it increased your VALUE which is the important thing! Never got Trans Express. My Peace to no get. She don tire for my harrassment also. Na small remain make she report me give her husband. So make we just forget about am dey look at something else. No be all meat man must chop! |
RoughCut:First Bank will always be a core holding for me. Never liked Access Bank but since the take over by AIG and co, they've DELIVERED to shareholders. If you remove sentiments and calculate your return, you will be surprised that it is one of the BEST performing stocks in your portfolio. Same way I don't like Union Bank (at least ot again), but they sure deliver superior shareholder return. Even better than First Bank. So cut Access some slack!!!! |
dollarmani:Agree with all you said apart from the bolded part. UNIC plan was to divest from non life business. UNIC is not involved in oil/gas portfolios. UNIC is concentrating on Life and Health insurance, building a recreation centre in VGC. I love the business model. I have strong faith in them even though the profit right now is way below my expectation. UNIC could not meet the requirement fro operating Life and Non Life business. The last PO was undersubscribed. |
Geees:Gees like one of my friends will say, na website we go chop!!!!! Flour Mills, Ashaka do not even have a website!!!!!! Check the Dangote group website and you will see nothing. Chellarams is making money! They are a conglomerate. And if you know anything about Indians, they are specialist in trading. Import and Export business is their core competence. All what I know about Chellarams is in the public domain. They are a very profitable company. They always realese their results about 8 months after the finnacial year end. They've talked about raisng capital but I am still waiting for it. By teh way, Nigeria German was to raise capital (not PO) also by Q3/Q4 this year. No news yet about that. |
RoughCut:Your bad belle for Access serious OOOO. Do your calculations well and you will see that you have made a LOT of money from ACCESS. (never really likes Access). As to it not going anywhere, what do you expect? Where has First Bank gone since its PO? Let's wait and see where Fidelity and co will co. The liquidity that drove the market in the first half of the year is no longer there. PFA funds are also not available. That's why you are seeing a slow down. Times like this presents opportunity to go for fairly/undervalued stocks. |
nazzyon:Perfect explanation ? Okay share prices always go up and down in the short term!!!!!!!But trully, Oceanic has tried. It will be <30.00 until the result is out. Not epxecting it to go past 33.00. |
RoughCut:Bank BHP did a share reconstruction. As at 26th April, the price was 5.43. On the 27th of April it was 17.10. It was the same thing that ACCESS did. After the private placement and merger with Habib, the issued share was so huge that without share reconstruction, no way the share price will move up! |
shigidi:PO comes after the people don chop clean mouth! You mean I should scramble after a PO whose share price was 1.59 at the beginning of the year but now @ 6.99. Don't forget the year end was in March so any PO now will not benefit from the BONUS that they may give us next year! I only buy PO's of companies that I plan to own for life if there is anything like that. |
pumping777:My brother the thing tire me OOOO. Wanted to BUY more this year @ 1.83 but no show!!!! Had some small unit that was bought at <N1.00 some 2/3 years ago. Collected 15k dividend many times plus a bonus of 1 for 1. They will definitely come out for their long over due PO but I will allow that to PASS! |
RoughCut:Waiting for dividend sets you back by 10% tax that you pay on the dividend!!!! Also, most often whe time spent waiting for th bonus certificate is not worth. Definitely not for a non performing company like Union Bank!!!! |
Anybody watching CHELLARAMS ?? Na only me dey look am ?? EPS of 0.94. At N6.99, PE is 7.40. Using a PE of 10.00, you are talking about N9.00 minimum! Gained 4.95% today with only one deal and total trade of 15,000 units!Any CHELLARAMS shareholder here ![]() ? |
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when everyone was buying. Seriously, other options are out there.
? That na awoof money for the issuing house/registrars. Now you know why some offers take a long time. First Bank will just be getting the money now.