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InvestmentRe: Stock Market Tips For Nigerians by wanaj0: 5:38pm On Aug 17, 2007
yodiyokun:
Easimoni,
can you imagine First bank is at 49.50 , there is indeed weeping and gnashing of teeth ooo, when some predicted it will cross 80.
Just wait till September when the amrket normally takes a slump and see what will happen!

Someone just used N8m loan to buy First Bank because of the 1 for 6!!!!

A fool and his money are soon parted!
InvestmentRe: Stocks That Can Make You Rich In 2007 by wanaj0: 5:32pm On Aug 17, 2007
easimoni:
I know Wanaj0 loves WAPIC but I've been doing some research. They will end up with a total of 4.23B shares (so says the MD, I googled them). If they double last yr's performance, they come up with N1400M which is EPS = 33k. for a stock already ~N7? Maybe the do more than 100% incr in PAT, but I found a few gems in the course of my research; Niger Ins, Sovereign trust, Lasaco and Prestige. Also found a fewquestion marks; UNIC, N.E.M., Royal Exchange.

I need to gather liver to sell my WEMA and hit the insurance sector. The PEGs are ridiculous!
I don't even own a single WAPIC.

Well just do your research well or else you will be left dry by the insuarnce companies. Are you aware that NEM did a rights issue? Are you aware that on top of that they merged/acquired Vigilante insurance. Hope you've factored that in.

Are you aware that UNIC is 'selling' the non life bit of their business henc eyou need to discount the income from that going forward?

Well as a starting point you need to get FULL audited account of those companies before you put your moeny there if you are not a gambler like most people.
InvestmentRe: Stock Market Tips For Nigerians by wanaj0: 4:42pm On Aug 17, 2007
shigidi:
@ wanajo, but surely ,fundamentals will still hold sway even in the bearest of markets shouldnt it undecided undecided
Yes but there will be a shift in PE. Up till 2005, Average PE's on the NSE was less than 10. Now companies with PE's of 30 are looking attractive especially with the bloated outstanding shares. Right now, the 'fundamentals' does not support the prices of most stocks. Most have returned over 100% while the earnings did not grow that much. Well, it is the bullish run. Let's take advantage of it while not forgetting the fact that when the bears come also you must be ready to ride the tide. I mean some peoples holdings are in stocks that are lot liquid!!!! In a beraish environment, you will hawk those shares around there will be no buyer! Same way they gained 5% everyday they will be losing 5% everyday and you can't do anything apart from screaming down your brokers neck!
InvestmentRe: Stock Market Tips For Nigerians by wanaj0: 1:50pm On Aug 17, 2007
koksieboy:
@shigidi
I'm aslo open to 3 months returns too grin grin

I noticed with First Bank that many people bought after the technical suspension was lifted and sold with a month or two with handsome profit. Do you think it's wise to do that for Access bank and Japaul? One could always buy the stock back when the price is stable.
Shine your eye well well!!!

How many people got first bank to buy when the Technical suspension was lifted?

Try it with first bank and see your broker tell you not available!

Truth is you need to understand what is going on in the market or else you will get suckered in!

For me, Flour Mills is a stock to bank on for the long term. Good fundamentals and growth. That the stock did not get a beating after declaring only 90k dividend shows that it will hold good. It is 75.00.

Hope that helps.

Just to sound a note of warning, all those that started investing some 12months ago and have only witnessed the bullish run, don't be fooled! There are bears in the market. With the bullish run, every one is a stock guru. At least if you bought Wire and Cable that is not producing anything you still have capital appreciation! Soon there will be a shaking then everyone will find its level. Then there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth. Be warned!!!
InvestmentRe: Stock Market Tips For Nigerians by wanaj0: 12:18pm On Aug 17, 2007
koksieboy:
@Shigidi,

thanks for your response. I'm looking at short term investment for now. What do you recommend? I also intend to have more funds to invest later in the year. Please reply
ASAP. Do you know anything about Amyn Investment (Stockbroker)?

@Wanajo, frankiriri, easimoni
Still waiting for your wise opinions
Stockmarket is good for longterm investment. I don't invest in the capital market for taht your timeframe.
InvestmentRe: Stock Market Tips For Nigerians by wanaj0: 11:04am On Aug 17, 2007
valhalla:
@ Shigidi

they are asking for 19.5 percent p.a interest and 3.5% management fee per quatre. I am trying to get them to 17% interest p.a and 3% one time.

I'm expected to provide 30% of the N1 million. I intend to use all the money to invest in stocks on the secondary market. I have some shares that i have bought over time but i need this kind of facility to really go into stocks fully.

I have a similar offer from Oceanic bank, with the conditions above. which really is better?

Thanks Shigidi. Please would other gurus please respondhuh??
Well, it depend on your kind of person.

To start with, who is managing the portfolio? Are you sure of returning of 26%? Because the 19% and 3% plus transaction fees (4%) takes you to about 26% before you even start to make money. Thread carefully and be sure that you know what you are doing.

Secondly you need to be sure of the small prints as touching the other conditions.

I also hope that you are VERY KNOWLEDGEABLE about the market. Don't expect the bullish run to continue. If there is a correction, you may likely lose your 30% contribution. All that glitters is not gold!
InvestmentRe: Stock Market Tips For Nigerians by wanaj0: 10:58am On Aug 17, 2007
shigidi:
oga wanajo, when our beloved wema go release resulthuh its getting frustrating.
Wetin you need the result for?

Hope you know that WEMA is yet to release the AUDITED March 2006 result so don't expect March 2007 soon!

I bought at N3.50  so I don't need their result to sell.

On a serious note, WEMA is damn risky but under the current bullish market should do fine!
InvestmentRe: Stock Market Tips For Nigerians by wanaj0: 10:34am On Aug 17, 2007
easimoni:
NBA, the quote you have is an excerpt from the report that Omoba has posted.

All, read the report. Interesting accusation. CSL (I think an FCMB subsidiary) has since fired the analyst who wrote the report.
The analyst wrote the report in bad state.

I don't like Access Bank but there is no sense in what the guy wrote.

On Audit committee, no executive director is on Access banks audit committee. I have the report here. Only two non executive directors are in that commitee (Otubu and Maduka). What the ignorant analyst was referring to was the boards internal audit committee which is made up of board members. That is chaired by Otubu.

He talked about the audited account beiang qualified. Yes that is true. It was because of the goodwill. Can't lay my hands on the interview by Atedo Peterside now why he mentioned treatment of goodwill as part of why he is against consolidation. Access does not want to amortise its goodwill so as to pay dividend. The treatment Access gave to teh goodwill is not supported by Companies and Allied Matters Act 1990 and Access Bank's accounting policy. However at an AGM of 31 August 2006, the shareholders approved the directors resolution on the proposed treatment of the goodwill. Based on this they got a Federal High Court sanction for the treatment. There is also a CBN circular BSD/24/2006 of 17 October 2006 to ALL banks allowing such treatment! All these info are available to this analyst.

He talked about 'manipulation' of hsre price. Well tell me what happened to Zenith, Intercontinental, UBA, Oceanic etc before their last offers?

It just shows how stupid some of this analysts are.

I don't like Access but it is for things totally different from the hogwash written by this analyst!
InvestmentRe: Stocks That Can Make You Rich In 2007 by wanaj0: 8:20am On Aug 17, 2007
shigidi:
@ wanajo, i know your a big nigerian-german chemicals fan, u said it would be a good buy after the pull back. what does that meanhuhhuh from my calcs, its projected eps is 1.2 by year end so it should hit at least 20 naira, but its price is already above 16, so do u think theres any point in still jumping in.
I invest for the long term so our situation may be different.

Two weeks ago Nigerian German was as low as 12.00. I bought then. Now it is 17.00. I see it getting to 25.00 next year. Some are looking at 28.00. It will oscillate between 15.00 and 18.00 for a while.

So make your choice.
InvestmentRe: Stock Market Tips For Nigerians by wanaj0: 8:13am On Aug 17, 2007
polonet:
hello all,

I am new, i sent my M&B certificate for verification in May this year and till date my stockbroker says cscs is yet to finish verification and listing, is this normal and what can i do.

thanks
Not normal. Try and find out the cause of the delay. Mine already credited into my CSCS.

BTW, Danjuma don buy that company finish. Out of about 365m units the man bought almost 130m!!!!
InvestmentRe: Stocks That Can Make You Rich In 2007 by wanaj0: 6:15pm On Aug 16, 2007
Temmie10:
quite rightly NEM's rights were at 55k. Without boring you with details, many insurance firms were well subsrcibed and not as glomy as u claim: the ff info is from sec:

unic-89%, prestige-153%, lasaco-81%,law union-135%, Mbenefits-94.7%, crusader=93%, wapic-105%, cont re-100%

I am not saying NEM is the worst, rather i am saying categorically, it is no way the best.
If we just invested solely based on cbn releasing money to insurance firms, we might as well close our eyes and throw the dice on any of the 25 insurance firms listed.
Not all the companies met the consolidation target by raising capital. Some merged, while some scaled down their operation by focusing on either on Life or Non Life.

As per the bolded portion, release of money raised by the company is critical to tehir performance. It is like borrowing money that is not released for your use!!! Once that is done hopefully by the end of the month or early next month, you will see change.

To analyse NEM or any insuarnce company well, you need to know scheme of arrangement for their merger, the subsription level etc. One thing is however clear, those GROWING their profits at high rates are worth looking at.
InvestmentRe: Stocks That Can Make You Rich In 2007 by wanaj0: 5:12pm On Aug 16, 2007
Temmie10:
@ wanajo

For the sake of all who will buy this stock at the current price, i hope you are right.

Facts do not lie o. Even if the offer was only 50% subscribed which is unlikely, it is still not attractive.
Temmie, I did not pick up my own rights so I know like almost all the insurance offers were undersubscribed.

Globe Re was still hawking its private placement document around last week for an offer that closed Sept 2006.

For the insurance companies, PEG tells you more than the PE. What people are paying for now is the future earnings/growth. See how much they all are growing their profit. What do you think will happen when NAICOM/CBN release the money made from the consolidation but kept in the escrow account.

NEM's righst was done at 56k or thereabout!!!!

While not canvassing for anyone to buy NEM one thing is clear, the insurance companies that gets their acts right will be a gold mine. Yes, all the information needed are not available. I will however take a risk with them.
InvestmentRe: Stocks That Can Make You Rich In 2007 by wanaj0: 4:39pm On Aug 16, 2007
Temmie10:
On NEM insurance

This company had a rights issue last year where 3.5 billion new shares were offered.
NEM, also released a half year result last week where 2nd quarter PAT was 213m.

Lets jus say i will not be buying NEM insurance anytime soon.
No problem. You don't have to buy.

While I appreciate your fears, you need to understand that your analysis is incomplete.

Like I said, most of those offers were undersubsribed so not all the rights were taken up.

secondly, NEM merged with Vigilant insurance so there is a bit of grey area as touching the outstanding shares. Same thing for ALL the insurance companies that merged.

What I can confidently say is that the merger of NEM with Vigilante insurance has done the company a lot of good.
InvestmentRe: Stocks That Can Make You Rich In 2007 by wanaj0: 9:38am On Aug 16, 2007
easimoni:
@ All,
I think we've done a good job of ignoring the 500 Ib elephant in the room; Insurance Stocks. I can't find enough data (frankly, I wasn't keeping track, too busy with banks) to enable me make an informed decision. Too many have done Public and Private offers and I fear buying a company with a forward PE of say 8 only to find that they'll list X many shares and the forward PE will now be 25. The picture is fuzzy to say the least.

But can we ignore the following recent results?

Company Period PAT% Incr.
Lasaco 6 mos 1200
Crusader 6 mos 308
Int Energy 6 mos 1300
Equity Assur 6 mos 3100
NEM 6 mos 350
Cornerstone 6 mos 310

True, a few like GNI have not done well, but look at those numbers. Are we not missing another banking boom? Insurance stocks are clearly the stocks to make us rich in 2007.

Personally, I need the prospectus of each company that did a PO to judge how many additional shares were to be listed, if they haven't been listed already.

The results for Mutual Benefit have not been released. If they follow the trend above, the PE could drop dramatically from the current 31. NSE says they have 5.91B shares. Does this include the proceeds of last year's PO or are there additional shares about to drop?

Pity no one website has all this info readily available. Any help out there?
well, you are joining tha party late. The insurance PO's were cheap and seriously undersubscribed. UNIC wnet for 1.10 and still undersubscribed that's why you cannot use the prospectus for making analysis now!

Secondly, most of them will meet their profit forecast. The funds raised during the PO are still with CBN/NAICOM so are not able to use for the purpose they wanted to use it for.

Some of them have also merged or acquire some otehr companies. So you need to consider that also.

Generally, the insurance sector is the hotcake now. With pension reform, health insurance, compulsory life assurance local content policy, compulsory building insurance, the opportunities are just massive!

Very few data on them are reliable but it is a sector worth positioning for.
InvestmentRe: Stocks That Can Make You Rich In 2007 by wanaj0: 9:31am On Aug 16, 2007
Kenjo:
Hi Guys,

Just to say I am new to this forum and I think its great. Weldone to all the gurus in the house. I have learnt a lot in the few weeks I have been reading through the different threads on stocks.

I am also very keen on the insurance sector, but I am still very new to investing in shares. I would like to invest about 2M. I have read a bit and understand about fundamentals and all that. But I watched in the sidelines while share price of stocks I am interested went up. So I want to invest now while still learning.

So what do the gurus think about?

1. Access Bank (secondary market) I know its very scarce but I might be lucky and get some
2. Japaul Oil -PO
3.AIICO and Mutual Benefits
4. Continental Re
5. FCMB- In view of their proposed public offer
6. May and Baker

My aim is capital appreciation.

Many thanks for your response. Easimoni I know you are on, any response is much appreciated.
Will not bank on May and Baker for the short term. For the Long term, solid company! Danjuma bought almost 30% of the last PO that they made. Now he wons over 22% of the company.

Not too positive about AIICO also. Last result was good but there is a lot of ABRACADABRA in their results.
InvestmentRe: Stock Market Tips For Nigerians by wanaj0: 9:17am On Aug 16, 2007
crazyT:
@ Temmie, Easimoni and wanajo



If I understand you guys right, Insurance stocks are good to buy? I am having lots of Lasaco stocks and I am contemplating to drop the stocks because it's like YO-YO going up and down everyday but i just saw their year ended result and i am like, Maybe i should just hold on,

What do you guys thinkhuh


LASACO ASSURANCE PLC: Audited account for the year ended Dec 31 2006. Turnover stood at N1.6 Billion as against N0.95 Billion in the comparable period of 2005. Profit Before Tax (PBT) is N225.3M for 2006 compared with N177.5M in 2005, Profit after Tax for 2006 stood at N171.5M, compared with N141.3M in the comparable period of 2005
A lot depend on your personality. Lassaco comes highly recommended by most brokers but sorry, I will not buy. Simply because they are not a major player in that industry. I personally go for stocks that are LEADERS in their area of operation or aspiring leaders. Alternatively, if they have a niche market in the sector then I will take a look. Lassaco to me has none of that.

Personally, I love UNIC. They are market leader in health insurance. Also, the've cleaned up their books based on 2005 result. Yet to see the 2006 result. Bought the IPO (1.10) which was grossly undersubscribed like most of the insurance offers.

NEM also is very good but knowing that I rejected the rights at 56k, will not feel emotionally good buying it now.

WAPIC and Crusader are going to  be major players. WAPIC has the advantage of having a bank behind it.

AIICo appears cheap based on current valuation but I need to see their annual report. So many abracadabra of recent.

if onle LEADWAY is quoted. That would have been the ONLY insurance stock for me!
InvestmentRe: Stock Market Tips For Nigerians by wanaj0: 4:36pm On Aug 15, 2007
easimoni:
@ Wanaj0,
where have u been? Just sold my BETA Glass grin. Should have sold when u said so.

Thanks for the gist on Oando. Will give it some thought. Didn't know about the EI (you don't see that on a one-line summary).

Flour Mills. it shocked me that the FY result didn't get any response from the market. I agree it's cheap.

C&I; it seems no one can get it now. I'll try when the demand subsides.
Brother I dey. Soemtimes is good to let others share their views.

Flour Mills result was solid even though the 90k dividend was a disgrace. That the share still held its own shows that all is well!!! Though I don't like the Chairman of the board, Flour Mills is up to BIG things. Growth and profitability are excellent. May wait till October to buy them though.

On OandO, though the PE is low, there are many other things holding the price down. One of them is corporate governance. See how Ocean and Oil increase their holdings through teh so called merger scheme arrangement. To amke matters worse, they talked about almost doubling EPS just like that. That is creative accounting as far as I am concerned.

Another thing is the high turnover of its management staff. That is making investors uncomfortable.

Last is the fact that the margin in that industry generally is reducing. If not for the EI, OandO's profit would have dropped. OandO was forced to pay almost all its earnings out as dividend just to keep the price up! This is sinspite of the huge debt overhang and the need to fund expansion projects. That sector for me is not the way to go irrespective of the PE.

C & I will be scarce. It is also not a very liquid stock anyway.

Don't worry about Beta Glass. It should rebound. But for the long term I will be careful. Turnover is not growing. With NAFDAC's plan to stop bottling companies from having their product in bottles as from 2008/2009, things will be hard for them.

AIICO looks good but I don't trust them. They do some abracadbra sometimes.
InvestmentRe: Stock Market Tips For Nigerians by wanaj0: 4:15pm On Aug 15, 2007
easimoni:
@ All,

IBTC's latest Stock Select is out. Note; only 6 banks are short-term "BUYs". Temmie10, Oando is also a "BUY", long and short-term.
For IBTC, there are other rules that drives there stock selection. Diversification is one of them. Another is the capitalisation of the stock and liquidity. That's why Conoil with reducing profit in a sector that has minimal growth made the list!!!!!

OandO has been on that list since the beginning of the year and the return is almost nil in a market that has returned 50% on the average.

No way I will buy any stock in the petroleum marketing sector until there is deregulation!!! The margins are just too small. Competition so stiff. Growth minimal and capital requirement HUGE.
InvestmentRe: Stock Market Tips For Nigerians by wanaj0: 4:04pm On Aug 15, 2007
easimoni:
@ Temmie10,

Oando has 572 M shares as you stated. However, as part of the restructuring, they'll list an additional 200 M shares later this year. Multiply the current PE (12.3) by 1.35 to get the full picture (16.5). Still not bad for a 50% growth rate. Def better than my beloved GTB.
You and this your OandO fascination. Hope you've factored in the fact that the turnover drop hence if the margin remains the same that there will be a drop in profit? I expect margins to even drop due to the refusal of government to deregulate teh sector.

Though the six months result shows an increase in profit, note that this is due to an Exceptional Item.

Personally, the petroleum marketing sector is not a place to be. Margins are thin and will continue to reduce until government decide to deregulate the sector.

Focus on Insurance, healthcare, Chemicals and the banking sector. That's where the growth will come from. C & I and Japaul (based on offer price and profit forecast) are good ones also. They are set to benefit from the local content policy .

If there is a stock that is cheap now, it is Flour Mills especially for the long term. Nigerian German will be a good one after the current pull back.
InvestmentRe: What Happens When You Misplace Your Share Certificate? by wanaj0: 8:26am On Aug 06, 2007
oluwatosyn:
i also lost a wema bank share certificate. i have just received a bonus on that share n i've been issued a cert for the bonus unit. please can that new one one be used to re-issue a new one to me?
Just go to the registrar. They will give you an indemnity form to fill and issue another certificate to cover the lost one. The big deal is having to go to teh registrar. If you have a broker, that should help. Note however that it may take sometime.
InvestmentRe: Stock Market Tips For Nigerians by wanaj0: 3:55pm On Aug 05, 2007
ty_ademolu:
Hello. During the time of the mad rush for penny stocks and insurance stocks. I made a silly mistake and sold some of my blue chip stocks to buy stocks like.

Crusader, NEM, Mbenefit, Dangote Sugar, Lasaco, UACN, NAHCO, RTBRISCOE. Even though I only bought small amounts in each of this stocks. the collective loss is bombarding me and I have not gained anything off them so far.

Right now, I'm frustrated and would like to get your honest opinion on which stocks I could hold and which I could sell. I have lost up to 30% on Crusader, NEM and Dangote (bought at N55 (some stockbrokers are wicked)).

Please help before all this stocks enter N0 each. Thanks
Atam-Man:
Wicked eh? Some stockbrokers are outright personification of evil. I wanted NAHCO after the mark-down, a stockbroker bought for me @ N40. How do you explain that? I feel what you are saying man, I am still holding it. Why? Because I am not sure of what to do, I suppose the two of us are in the same boat right now.
I can't blame the brokers here. You placed an order which was executed for you.

Lesson, never accept the advice of a broker without you checking yourself. Note that whether you make a profit or not, the broker will make his money from commissions. 1.e he benefits from your joy or sorrow.

Also, never place an order without putting a price limit!!! You should not give a broker a blanket chewue to buy at whatever price!

So what made you to buy those stocks at those prices? Hype most likely.

I feel for you. However, I expect many more people to get their fingers burnt. Some only remember the bullish run on the NSE forgetting that first half of 2005 was very bearish!

The insurance sector is correcting the share prices. NAHCO is doing the same though still over priced!!!!!
InvestmentRe: Stock Market Tips For Nigerians by wanaj0: 4:48pm On Aug 02, 2007
egoldman:
I have a question here , i have a friend and his broker has given him an account to deposit money , however the account is the personal account of the broker and not of the brokerage firm , i asked him if the broker is the owner of the firm and he said no , he said the broker works under the firm , so i thought of asking about it here , because my broker from cashcraft doesn't give me her personal account , she gives me the account of cashcraft with cashcraft name , plz them gurus should give good advice here .
Well you are doing business with the broker (individual) and not the company!!!!!!! Be wary of that!!!!!!!!

I prefer to deal with 'reputable' company who have their name to protect. With that, if they try to play funny I can make a lot of noise. But with an individual with little or nothing to lose, I will be careful!
InvestmentRe: Stock Market Tips For Nigerians by wanaj0: 9:02am On Aug 02, 2007
windywendy:
I'm sure you trust your friend, but this deal sounds fake. FBN offer closed on July 5. To my knowledge, most brokers have until 2 weeks after the closing date of the PO to make returns to the registrars. That date should have been July 19 or thereabout. By now the registrars ought to be sorting out the forms and handling the allotment, etc. I'm also aware that the NSE has ordered that companies allot shares and issue certificates within 1 month of the closure of an offer. So your broker's deal does not sound credible -- unless of course he's the registrar and can allot you shares at this point prior to the certificates being sent out.
Yes you do have two weeks after closure of a public offer for filing of returns. That normally takes a week. Anything after that you are on your own!!!

No way that statement in bold can be true!!!!

For starters, NSE has no control over other capital market operators hence cannot issue an order to any of them. It is only SEC that can do that. Knowing the proceedure for concluding an offer, no way certificates will be issued after one month. What NSE has said was that they will lift Technical suspension about two weeks after the conclusion of an offer.

For certificates, expect nothing less than 4 months for bank offers.

E-allotment will hopefully solve the problem.
InvestmentRe: Stock Market Tips For Nigerians by wanaj0: 11:58am On Aug 01, 2007
Temmie10:
@ Jehosaphat

We are all learning here o. Thats the purpose of this forum afterall.

i think the choices you are making will definitely make you richer.

Fidelity is not clear cut. For one thing, it is more expensive than Access. It will only be justified if they can expand faster which is very possible. i saw the investment ratios for fidelity yestada and it is not looking too eye catching in comparison to its peers. NOnetheless i have a few holdings i bought at 6 naira and i am HOLDING (jus might buy a few units of the offer too).


Ashaka still has a lot of value. The question now is price. i am carefully watching it too. You can enter now but it is a value stock so you must have at least 1 15-24 months time span i.e. its not the favourite presently.

My best stocks: Try this--Bought prestige insurance a few years ago at 20k, this year its been ranging around N7.5. There is no substitute for long term. This was a pure fluke tho. NO analysis.
we are in a bull run so people can ride the tide and throw fundamentals to the wind. If not, fidelity will not be on my buy list.

On Ashaka, Ashaka is doing like a badly managed company. Huge cash reserves but no expansion plan. They are really a small cement company producing less than 1m tonnes. They've grown turnover based on increase in price. With Obajana and BCC entering Ashaka's catchment area then things will become a lot more difficult! WAPCO currently has more value. For risk takers, go for Ashaka.

On Dangote flour, sorry Flour Mills is the leader in that sector. Competition in the flour business is huge. So I don't expect it to be a success like DSR. Even then, DSR has only returned about 120% since November. If you bought Oceanic then on the floor, you will be talking about a better return. There is a lot of hype around teh Dangote business

BCC and NAHCO are stocks that have done extrordinarily well in recent times. Both have returned over 1,000% in the past 24 months!

Until you see the prospectus, you cannot say whether any PO is a good buy or not. One major advantage of a PO is the opportunity to BUY large units in good companies. Also, you don't pay the transaction charges.
InvestmentRe: Stocks That Can Make You Rich In 2007 by wanaj0: 4:37pm On Jul 31, 2007
shigidi:
@ all, does anyone know when wema s full year result will be outhuh?
Wema result for which year? Result for YE March 2006 is yet to be released. That should tell you the likely time for the release of the 2007 result. Maybe by November 2007. cheesy
InvestmentRe: Stocks That Can Make You Rich In 2007 by wanaj0: 6:00pm On Jul 30, 2007
Boboayuze:
@Wanajo
I agree that Sterling bank is a good deal, since any acquisition makes it a win win situation, unless you are in a hurry to recoup your money
Temmie10:
@ Wanajo

The fact that Sterling is an acquisition target should make one consider holding its shares,
It will be sold at a premium if it does get acquired according to you
Depending on the terms of the acquisition. The major shareholder (player) can shortchanged you. There are so many things that comes to play in mergers and acquisitions.

Personally, going forward, I believe the Sterling and other fringe players will soon disappear
InvestmentRe: Stocks That Can Make You Rich In 2007 by wanaj0: 3:01pm On Jul 30, 2007
Starchuks, I will not buy Sterling or Livestock feeds. Don't think the two are the BEST in tehir sectors. For the long term, I don't see Sterling being in existence. It is a good candidate for acquisition.

As per Livestocks feed, there is nothing fantastic about them!
InvestmentRe: Stock Market Tips For Nigerians by wanaj0: 10:12am On Jul 27, 2007
egoldman:
Ibeto Cement will join them in about 40 days time as Presido have reopened their comp0any closed by OBJ .Wondering what effect it would have on that sector considering that Ibeto Cement got into OBJ bad books as it flooded the market with cheaper cement , in fact he has said it that cement price would crash in about 40 days time , let see how that plays out with cement stocks .
Ibeto's entry is no effect. All that crashing of price is propaganda. He will only import 1.5m tonnes which is not much in the scheme of things.

Secondly, he will be importing via PH. Main competition will be with Bulkem.
InvestmentRe: Stocks That Can Make You Rich In 2007 by wanaj0: 7:24am On Jul 27, 2007
frankiriri:
That would not give you the fair value. It would only give the value relative to other stocks .
The market may or may not price that stock at the PE of the industry.
As I stated before the forecast EPS is the one to go with as It would have taken into consideration future activities of the company.
There is no alternative to doing your homework
For me there is really nothing like fair value!!!! This is because you can use different models to calculate what you think the price of a share should be. PE is just one. Dividend yield is another, net asset value, price to book value etc.

Howver, PE is easy and stright forward.
InvestmentRe: Stock Market Tips For Nigerians by wanaj0: 7:17am On Jul 27, 2007
BabaOlu:
@ Wanajao,
Could you please supply info on number of volume traded and as well as number of deals on Grief Nig. PLC in the last 3 trading days. I have tried to no avail. Thx.
No trade in GREIF since the beginning of this week. It is not a liquid stock

SavvyLanre:
My people, i have been away for a while - Abeg what is Ashaka Cement's story - what happened to them, is having a toll on other bells in the same sector, or so i perceive,
Ashaka is having one basic problem Not able to grow profit due to drop in production volumes. This was being compensated for by increase in price. The only 'good' thing is the huge cash reserve that they have. Was surprised that Ashaka did not go for any expansion.

Going forward, Ashaka will face competition from BCC and Obajana since they basically target the same market.
InvestmentRe: Stocks That Can Make You Rich In 2007 by wanaj0: 8:10am On Jul 26, 2007
enurayce:
@Wanaja
are u saying that we should stay off the insurance sector.i will really need your opinion and advise before i make a fatal mistake.im imploring you to please help with some recommedation on this and other low priced stocks that u feel have prospects.
secondly if i buy stock during IPO,how do i ensure that its credited into my acct directly instead of issuing me a cert.
thirdly,if u think the insurance firm asking 2 pay 95k is worth investing in in the long term,im interested n if u don't minf u cud furnish me details.enurayce@yahoo.com is my email.waiting for your response
Don't stay off the insurance sector but open your eyes wide! There is a lot of 'financial engineering' going on there. The sector is not as well regulated as the banking sector.

If you have a long term view then go for the insurance sector. The opportunities are there. Government policies are favourable. The sector is set for a boom. However, shine your eye.

As per the company going for 95k, it is a private placement. It came out last year and I ignored it. Officially, it closed Sept 2006. Just the same way the international energy closed in 2006 but they still collected from people till two weeks before listing.

I tend to invest for the LONG TERM though I can take advantage of short term opportunities. If I will place an order today, I will buy Nigerian German and May and Baker.

As per buying IPO's, First Bank will likely be the first to do e-allotment. let's see how that goes. At least we've had E-bonus already. However, note that it takes a while to complete a PO. The one for banks even take longer due to CBN verification. Hence, you need to have a LONG TERM view for PO's
InvestmentRe: Stock Market Tips For Nigerians by wanaj0: 7:21am On Jul 26, 2007
windywendy:
What is the catalyst for growth with NGC -- (in other words, what's going to fuel NGC's growth)?
Chemicals, Pharmaceuticals and their new oil services subsidiary. They are supplying chemicals to the oil companies and with the local content policy, they are game!!!!!

Compare with CAP PLC, it is undervalued. They only need to declare bonus for YE 2007 and you will see the price hit the roof. Price comeing down now based on the 45k dividend which is beileved as unattractive.

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