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spyder880:Take a trip to Ikwo, around the new federal university, Ndufu Alike (FUNAI) in Ebonyi state. You'll be awestruck at how people are erecting 3 and 4 storey hostels all over the place, as if the buildings cost a few thousand naira only ![]() |
2019elections:Stupid, silly post. Head filled with fermented akamu. |
horsepower101:We were not raised to hate them. I got emotional when I read this statement. It is the absolute truth. The typical Igbo has no time to hate or be antagonistic to any tribe in Nigeria or elsewhere. This is largely due to the fact that our parents haven't the luxury or time to afford this. That is both a strength and weakness. After the devastation of the war, the paramount instinct is survival. Igbo land was decimated, and our people had to bury their resentments and pains and forge ahead. Igbos became more Nigerian than any other ethnic group in the country. We spread out and we assimilate. Growing up in a heterogeneous society in Lagos, I never heard my parents talk ill of any tribe. I spoke Yoruba more fluently than my native tongue. It got embarrassing when I realized I stutter when trying to speak Igbo in public. This reason made me decide to go to university in the SE and reconnect with my root. Its a decision I cherish till this day, as it opened up a lot of opportunities for me. Also made me realize the situation a typical Igbo has to deal with within the context of a Nigerian I don't hate. Its just that I know enough now to be wary. Sometimes, I wonder how things would have turned out if we were raised with the milk of hate towards other groups. I just mentioned that I wouldn't invest in Rivers state for any reason. I became aware of the "abandoned properties" saga in PH after the war when I read it in a book. I asked my father about it, and he just laughed over it. He made a snide comment about people who couldn't build a decent house to save their own lives pouncing on the properties of war victims in their absence, and how his brother was affected. Isn't it ironic that Igbos lost their properties and investment to people not from the north or southwest, but to those who shared historical kinship with them? Yet, till this day, such people still feel resentment towards igbos. I don't wish to understand their reason anymore. I've tried to before, but didn't yield much answers. Your haters themselves are not sure why they hate you. It is mostly because their parents brought them up that way. I think its mostly a good thing Igbos aren't raised to hate. Hate is a handicap. That handicap has seen Igbos dominate businesses in such areas.....because Igbos don't give a fvck, as someone just said. |
vanbonattel:Congratulations. To each his medicine. |
pazienza: ![]() The only reason I would accept a gift of a land or immovable investment in PH or anywhere else in Rivers state is just so I could sell it and get the cash. It's not a decision based on hate or other sentiment. Factual evidences based on historical records informed this decision. I would rather consider investment in the north where at least, I know what my status is. |
spyder880:Gun wielding?? In Enugu too? I do understand that in some villages, the "youths" will come out and demand for certain payments (aka development levies, or cultural duties- omenani) But I'm yet to see or hear them wielding guns for this purpose. At most, they are armed with sticks and (in some cases) machetes. Since when did guns become a part of their mission? |
Arrow144:Asking for the mileage of a tokunbo vehicle in Nigeria is a waste of time. The odometer of most tokunbo cars imported for sale have been tampered with. I am not talking about this particular car been advertised here, pls. If you're interested in any vehicle, go for its physical inspection, and get its VIN to search online if its a salvaged vehicle or not. Afterwards, you can make an informed decision. |
Biglittlelois:As Reno said, and as has been said centuries ago, long before your father was a mere itch in the scrotum of your grandfather, "the easiest way to hide something from a black man is to hide it in a book" With all the rabid rants you posted here, you didn't (and couldn't) support your position with any documented evidence. Reno quoted copiously from the most read book in the world, yet you come to criticize his efforts by merely pulling out rancid air from your ass. Not saying Reno is right or wrong, but what facts are you supporting your rants with? You sabi book at all? |
![]() Oh, finally they admit there was at least one territory under BH's command, which they just retrieved? The story before now has been outright denial: that no community or area is under BH's rule. Be rest assured the terrorists still controls large swathes of areas in different LGAs. This administration has made lying and half truths part of its official policies. Nothing to applaud here, except the sacrifices the men of the NA are making with their lives. They are just pawn pieces in a bloody game of chess between government and politicians. |
pinkguy:My thoughts exactly!! Flattino, please what part of the country is this? Do tell the state and town. I instantly fell in love with the landscape! Looked like something from a story book. |
horsepower101:Exactly what I'm saying. Let us build ourselves first. Not just halfhearted attempts. Personally, I've made it a point to put my investments in the SE. Other concerns I have outside the SE is a means to generate income, which will still gets channelled to the SE when the need arises. It is a patience game. Keep building, keep improving and never get your eyes off the goal. A point will come when the country has no other direction to go but to gradually implode, given its extremely flawed political and constitutional setup. Nobody is talking warfare. Brains, not brawn wins in such long term projections and goals. Have a clear idea of what you are aiming for in the future. Once this aspiration becomes the goal of the majority of its denizens, then we are halfway there. |
Handsomegod:Ahhh.....you do read Baron Roy's commentaries too? ![]() Cool. Guy got his head screwed on the right way. His depth of insight is far reaching. |
Handsomegod:I read all that he had posted after that flawed analysis he made, and I decided his views do not merit anymore response. Yeah, its an open discussion in which everyone presents his ideas, suggestions etc. However, his views show that his mind is bogged down in a dark, empty and timid shell. He largely believes we are advocating for a full on, frontal confrontation with the central government as the means of liberation and realizing an Igbo nation. I hope he gradually gets to unshackle himself. This isn't about discussing what we can't do. Its about what is workable and realistic...and they are largely medium to long term goals. His comments in the previous page concerning the war showed he knows very little about that event. I admonished him to go read up on its history, but he prefers to shoot blanks here. |
Bede2u:Your analysis is as flawed as they are ludicrous. Will post a rejoinder to this. I do not share or accept most of what you posted here. I do recognize they are mostly your own opinion, though. My take: 1. Agreed, the north is not willing to let any part of the country go without a fight. What I do not understand is you suggesting an alliance with the SS and SW if the SE hopes to defeat the rest of the north. Please, learn from history. During warfare, allegiances are fluid. They change a lot, depending on prevailing situations and interests. If I were to launch into narrating how the SW reneged on a pact with Ojukwu to also declare their own republic, which would be openly supported by Biafra, it would take a whole page here. As for the role played by the SS during that horrible period, still read your history. Its all in print. You still seem to think that modern warfare is a game of numbers: he with the largest army wins. Well, that was in the past. Superior weaponry and technology wins war now, not the number of your foot soldiers. Banking on an alliance with SW or elements of the SS is suicide at best, especially with people who betrayed you in the past, and presently still abhorr you for whatever reason. 2. (We will realize how little we are, and we get surrounded on all sides by the rest of Nigeria) Wrong. This is simply because, in the event Igbos break away from Nigeria, be rest assured that other regions, especially the middle belt and SW will follow suit. These regions, especially the middle belt are as fed up with an unworkable contraption called Nigeria. Only thing is, they aren't as resolute as Igbos. So, the scenario of being surrounded by Nigeria would be a theory at best. This isn't 1967 anymore. The regions that were described by Ahmadu Bello as willing tools have long realized what they were once useful for, and nothing more. They have also been victims of the fanatic north, and still are. 3. (A potential Igbo country lacks the number and resources to thrive) Seriously? I didn't mention diversity because this is not a big factor. How far has Nigeria gone with its diversity? Listen man, homogeneity is a proven factor for growth. Most of European countries are homogeneous. Nigeria did not get advanced because they subdued their best out of fear. America realizes it could attract the best brains from around the world. Nigeria went the opposite route by promoting its worst. As for numerical strength, how many countries have populations of up to 20 million? The SE is above that figure. I know lots of countries whose population is below 10 million, and they are pulling their weight. I happen to presently reside in one of them. Igbo land lacks resources? Are you talking human or material resources? I believe you meant the latter. Man, on both counts, the SE lacks nada. You should know that Africa is poor because it depended on material resources, while advanced countries developed their human capital. You are not ready for the evolving times with the way you cogitate. In fact, your number 3 point is the most erroneous. Your number 4 point shows the fear and uncertainty that is preying on your mind. Nothing good comes to the timid. If the SE works on itself, then no power on earth can withhold our brethren in Delta state from joining us. As it is now, we need to work on ourself, and the future will rapidly take shape. Finally, I have seen that Handsomegod gave a more detailed response below to your fears. You are not forward thinking by any stretch of the imagination. |
horsepower101:I feel you on this. However, you need to see this from my point of view. People who grew up around Onitsha back then were used to such sights. I was born in Lagos. Grew up there. We mostly travel to my village during Christmas or other occasions. Means, we largely stick to the expressway when travelling. Nothing like exploring the SE states. But, we were forced to abandon the expressway due to traffic gridlock. Seeing those tall buildings everywhere inside residential neighborhoods was overwhelming. As a kid, I had that notion that such tall buildings were only built by government! Seeing them all over a place I would have thought as villages shattered every preconceived notion I had before that time. It was an amazing experience. |
I was a kid during the 1993 chaos that erupted following the annulment of the presidential election. We lived in Lagos. As more tension rose, my father decided we should temporarily relocate to the SE until the situation becomes calm. Lots of Igbos in the SW also made that decision to at least take their families back home. My father drove us to the village that period. Since my mother had travelled earlier, I had the luxury of occupying the front passenger seat. So, little me was the assistant driver/co-pilot on that trip ![]() Those who remembered that period will also recollect that there was fuel scarcity. Now, it was during this trip that I got to navigate the backstreets of Onitsha due to the heavy traffic that ensued from the mass exodus, referred to as "ösö Abiola", beginning from Umunede till after Obosi or so. The Onitsha bridge was the choke point/bottleneck. Now, why I'm writing this is because of the eye opening experience I had when we had to abandon the Owerri-Onitsha expressway because of the gridlock and navigated some backstreets in Onitsha, as we were heading to Imo state. Wow! I was overwhelmed by the sheer concentration of 5 storey buildings in those back streets. Never knew that such residential buildings in those numbers existed inside Onitsha. I had seen taller buildings in Lagos, but never in such concentration. I mean, every single building in those streets are all 4 or 5 storeys. I kept asking my father where are we? ![]() He replied that we are still in Onitsha. Yes, but I never knew that such tall buildings existed in these "backyard" streets! It looked surreal. I kept gaping. When were all those buildings erected? They were owned by different individuals. I doubt that till this day, there is a more concentrated settlement with 5 storey residential buildings in Nigeria. The downside was, those areas were never planned. They looked haphazard. The streets were in ruins, but all the buildings were fully occupied. I don't knw in what condition those buildings and those areas are presently in. Just narrating what I witnessed in 1993. I don't even remember exactly what part of Onitsha it is. Should be around Iweka. I may be wrong though. Most of those buildings were erected in the 80s. This goes to show the undying spirit of the Igbos. Till this day, such building prowess has never been matched by any part or people of the country. We can surely do better if the right leaders are in place. |
AnambraDota:Good observation. Though I think you mixed up horizontal with vertical. SE builds more vertical (upwards) in urban/semi urban areas on small plots (100x50 feet) |
iammo:Means it would be cheaper for them to shell out 5k per vote, than to pay salaries. Now, that's a very horrible state of affair, if you think about it. Governors can just dump their state's allocation into a fixed deposit for a couple of years while pocketing the accrued interests, and just weeks/days to an election, they can start giving voters money to buy them off. Owed civil servants may get double portion when they show their identification.... The country is headed for doom with this precedent. |
All this hush money they are sharing....Jesu! What sort of heartless, uncaring politicians whose generations were the pioneers of their respective nations did Nigeria get cursed with ![]() An almost octogenarian who is presiding over such massive looting, not even giving a bleep that his days on earth are numbered.... I just can't wrap my head over black people's insatiable greed for money and power, especially money that isn't rightfully theirs. Although I am taking this report with a pinch of salt, because I don't trust most of these blogs, there is no denying the fact that this administration is no better than the previous ones when it comes to looting and sharing. |
Hmmm |
Bede2u:See that comment of yours I put in bold? It is absolutely unneeded. You guys keep on mentioning a group whose stance will do little or nothing to contribute to the bulk of Igboland's development. Don't you guys get tired of this? Let them be! Build your own immediate neighbourhood first, then all else will fall in line. It makes no difference whoever owns Port Harcourt. Fulanis can own it for all I care. If Igbos bring in half the output they expend in other parts of Nigeria where they have been residing say, since the past 10 years...even you wouldn't give a bleep if any Igboid group outside the 5 SE state exists or not. Look inwards. Those people you keep half an eye on have their own interests which could be totally divergent from your views. |
Dremca:Bro, that comment of his didn't deserve an answer. We got retards in here who still think this thread is a dïck measuring contest. |
Purehuman:Well said |
sarrki:In all the posts you have been making on NL, you still haven't learned the difference between know and no. I guess your paymaster can only afford to cultivate half baked apologists such as you. Any discerning individual with little moral would have questioned the rationale behind supporting this administration with its gang of morons. |
ckenneths:I've heard so much noise about this place. What is your impression about it? I don't know anything about the company floating the estate, except the little I read online. |
spyder880:All right. The unscreeded portions were not obvious from the pics, which is the reason I didn't notice. Good job. |
spyder880:If brick tiles are to be used, then walls shouldn't have been screeded, right? Probably something that wasn't planned from the onset? |
Bede2u:You still don't get it, do you? In the event that access to the sea coast becomes an issue, this is going to be handled as purely a business transaction, in which both sides benefits. Igbos do not have to beg Ikwerres or any other group for this. In such business, you state your terms, and both sides benefit financially from it. If it doesn't work out with them, there are other options such as Akwa Ibom. It is business, not bullshit based on ethnic sentiments. Meanwhile, if a seaport of international standard gets operational in Rivers, who do you think would drive the bulk of the business that will happen there? Igbos, of course. Once you realize they need us more than we need them, all you need to do is set your house in order, and watch them come running. Enough with these advocacy for people who don't have any need of you at the moment. All this impotent wailing you guys are making here is a waste of time. Bring something to the table, and all these renegade groups will fall over themselves to court your attention. @ horsepower101 I have been enjoying your objective contributions to this thread. However, you are letting your emotions over this Igbo or non Igbo issue cloud your thoughts. That suggestion about letting everyone state publicly their ethnic affiliation is a waste of time. You said that the SE has been sweeping the issue under the rug, hoping it would go away. Well, the reason why the issue seem to linger is because there has been no cogent economic or political reason that would make such groups publicly identify themselves as Igbos. What would they gain at this time from it? You're putting the cart before the horse. Make yourself a beautiful bride and several suitors would give an arm and a leg to get married to you....and that's what the SE needs to become: a beautiful bride. That's what this thread is meant to discuss: how the SE can become a regional power house. After that, everything else will fall into place. Your emotions over this issue, no matter how visceral it is, will not make even that close neighbor of yours want to call himself a proud Igbo. |
Purehuman:Sorry man, but I dare say you belong to a fast diminishing minority. You worrying about certain people's non-igbo stance changes nothing. Its not, and will never be a problem. C'mon, develop a broader sense of view. If for instance, many Mbaise or Ngwa or any undeniable Igbo element decide today that they do not wish to be known or addressed as Igbos, would you lose sleep over it? No fvcking way would I lose a moment's appetite. My life and future aspirations will remain unaffected. Now, why would I bother about the state of confusion in the hearts and minds of a group of people who already felt they are "appendages" to Igbo land? ![]() See, for them to use that term, it means they considered themselves as such. Nobody pushed them away or ill treated them. Will the political and economic problems the Igbo nation is faced with suddenly vanish if historically Igbo people in Rivers, Delta, Benue, Cross Rivers and other states decide they are after all, real Igbos? Stop treating a small itch like a terminal illness. This situation doesn't deserve more than a cursory glance. If the bulk of the 5 SE states would form an alliance that produces the sort of growth and economic development it should, you'd see even Nupe people clamoring for Igbo citizenship. What you and some other people are debating here isn't the purpose for this thread. Keep your eyes on the ball, please. |
arinzeejikonye:Bro, what is NEFGIK? |
Dremca: filcast:Let's just say Buhari's wind of change is modifying everything, including spending powers ![]() But those who have deep or semi deep pockets are making serious moves. The wise know this periods are the time to acquire properties in the SE. Every time is the right time, but particularly for the SE, next year and beyond will mark periods of skyrocketing prices for lands. Those with discernment understand what I'm talking about. |
justy15:Hi. I observed that you began making this post over two months ago on various threads. I think it would be expedient for you to create a thread to advertise specific properties on your portfolio. Haven't you noticed that almost no one is doing that for Ebonyi state properties on nairaland? If you have genuine properties in Abakaliki, especially those in the immediate outskirts of the capital, then do that ASAP. I took note of the area opposite to the Nigerian Army base/cantonment when driving into Abakaliki from Ikwo. I am (we are) waiting. |
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