@Maki

e be like say you get money well well

From your mouth to Gods ears oh

How does having a univerity degree translate to speaking proper english?

If by the end of primary school english still eludes you, then you have a big problem

9Ja's
We will never change. FOC is our middle name.

Common guys, it is simple, if you want to use the service you gat to pay for it.

I think it is a generation thing,but frankly those old folks are usually right. You can't control who you love, but like you've already experienced, love is not always enough. we nigerians are unique with our wierd sense of being, it takes one to know one. so yes, i'm sitting on the fence on this one :-)

Why do you need a reason, your mind is obviously made up. i have better naija babes seeking good naija men so you are one less competitor. Be who you are and stop seeking validation for your choices

The Mo Fo is trying to love-vendor you oh. You better run for your life. A guy that can ask you to obtain for him no really send you

I thought the whole point of relationships was getting to know your partner and then eventually deciding to marry or not.

My thoughts on this matter ... and i am not refering to the scantily dressed girl who just wants to jump form one rich guy to another, with no intention of getting married.

The average intelligent woman has evolved. In past decades woman were not in the financial positions most of them are now. Most women married, straight out of secondary school or even university, to young hardworking men and it meant nothing to suffer and toil with said man.
Now women are furthering their education, getting powerful jobs and leaving marriage for later in life. i guess it is hard for a women, who by her own standards is made, to seek an up and coming young man...without being his sugar mummy that is.

At a certain age, your priorities are clearer and you have a short list of requirements (for some that is sadly money, but damn that the womans choice ok) and there is no need wasting anybodys time in a relationship when you know they don't meet your minimum spec.

Sad but true

I read this thread and i am amused and saddened.

Someone asked earlier, who is Nigeria? and no one responded.

Nigeria is made up of you and me and only we can affect change.
Complaining from across the ocean is not adding value and i can talk ... i have been back in Nigeria for about 1year now after 10years in London.
For a country like ours change cannot be overnight and will probably not be evident in our generation, but you and i, the citizens, have to effect the change, in our personal lives and in our relationship with others.
if you behave in a certain way, people will begin to know you for that. Not every body accepts bribe and if more and more Nigerians, who have no tolerance for bribary and corruption, return home, then less and less people will take bribe, making those who do the minority...i see a big change coming on

- Everybody wants to be paid for doing their job, right? Fair enough, if i receive good service i'll give tip (which i understand is a requirement in the US), but if the service is bad i don't; hell if the service was that bad i wouldn't go back anyway.
- when most people are cheated, it is usually as a result of their own greed.
- You can't expect things that have been imported to cost the same as in the US or UK, just doesn't make sense. If you don't want to pay naija price, do what i do...shop when you go on vacation, until that time when we begin to produce goods of comparable quality.
- No security, of course tell me exactly where is secure. When i was at Uni in london, a girl was raped at the same busstop i used everyday to school. i promptly got myself a tokumbo car
- No electricity then get a good generator. So instead of paying British gas, you use your money to run your gen
- No where to start from, then that is an entirely personal issue. If you're unemployed where you are then tough luck getting a job here and i think that applies in every country

For now so many things have to be endured, but if everybody pulls together to fight against corruption, poverty, bad government etc changes will occur; but we don't do that do we? We don't fight for any cause and expect change to occur spontaneously...puulleesse!!
Prayer is one thing, but we all know that God helps those who help themselves. Action speaks louder than words people.

We all know the problems, so i'm not going to list them, but i can categorically say that nothing has happened to me, yet, to make me regret my move. Granted, it was a very difficult decision to make and a lot of planning went into it (just like Oasis friend), but i'm happy and so is my family.
And i'd like to think that my being here is contributing to making Nigeria a better place for my children

Thank God we have you to set them straight

Mr Sabi sabi, by definition 'Faith' is Irrational

Again.....BITE ME!

As your way is obviously the only way

I believe in God, so BITE ME.

I don't need evidence, i don't need proof...i choose (how novel a concept) to believe.
Even the english dictionary gives the same definition of Faith - Belief that does not rest on logical proof or material evidence/The theological virtue defined as secure belief in God and a trusting acceptance of God's will.

MY CHOICE, i don't owe nobody an explanation

Here you go.

It is a .mid file and may not work on all phones

I don't think i have ever felt more shame at being Nigerian than in the last week.

First the Alams crossdressing drama and then Tafa Balogun sentenced to only 6months after all the noise.


I continue to sob for my country.

FYI a snapshot of the Alams loot

• That he holds a personal bank account with Barclays Bank Plc, which was opened on 5th January 2004 and the balance stood at £203,753.34 as at 15th February 2005.

• He holds a personal bank account with HSBC, London, but the account was closed sometimes in March 2003, while all the money in the account was transferred to Santolina Investment Corporation’s account with National Westminister Bank, London.

• It was confirmed that he is the sole Director of Santolina Investment Corporation and sole signatory to the company’s account with the National Westminster Bank with A/C No. 10182819 Sort Code 15-00-25 in London.

• He also holds personal account with Bond Bank in Lagos which was opened sometimes in January 2004 and the balance stood at N105,314,942.61 as at 16th September 2005 and another personal account in Oceanic Bank Plc.

• The sum of $2.5million has been discovered in an account which Alamieyeseigha personally held with UBS Warburg AG, 1 Curzon Street, London, WIJ 5HB.

• It is also believed that a substantial amount of money has been transferred to a company called FALCON INC, with an account in the same UBS Warburg AG, 1 Curzon Street, London, WIJ 5HB.

A letter of instruction written by Alamieyeseigha showed how he instructed the bank to transfer a sum of $1.5million from his personal account to the account of the company.

• Alamieyeseigha holds bank accounts in Cyprus with Barclays Bank Plc at International Banking Unit, 88 Dighemis Akritas Avenue, 1644, Nicosia. The account numbers are 7341553/7341596 for US Dollars, 7341454 and 7341588 for GB Pounds Sterling and 7341561 and 7341618 for EURO. An equivalent of more than GBP 3million is believed to be deposited in these accounts.

• Alamieyeseigha holds a bank account in Denmark with JYSKE Bank at Besterbrogate, 9, DK-1780, Copenhagen V. The client number is 959878-8275 and the account number is 5005220454-7. A sum of $500,000 had already been frozen in the account.

It is also believed that he holds substantial bonds within the bank reference number 959899-5203. The account and the bonds appeared to be in the name of Santolina Investment and Diepreye Alamieyeseigha.

• He holds two (2) JYSKE Visa Cards numbers 4809 0225 9878 and 4809 0215 9878 8272.

• He established a trust with UBS Trustees (Bahamas) Ltd., P.O. Box N-7757, East Bay Street, Nassau, Bahamas. Details of the Trust are as follows:- The SALO TRUST in the names of Enitonbrapa Alamieyeseigha, Embelakpo Alamieyeseigha, Ebipadei Alamieyeseigha, Oyamuyefa Alamieyeseigha, Saleaka Alamieyeseigha and Margaret Alamieyeseigha.

• He holds an account with the Bank of America in the name of Peter Alamieyeseigha with account number 0054 8256 2491 which balance stood at $160,000.00 as at August 2003.

• The sum of GBP 1,350,000.00 being the annual premium for Insurance Policy No. 1E1/0405/0012/AR/HQ in respect of the Kolo Creek Power Station Yenagoa, has been traced in an account at Barclays Bank, Knightsbridge, London, SWIX 7NT, A/C No. 80041262, Sort Code 20-47-35, IBN:GB 87 BARC 2047 3580 0412 62 SWIFT BICGB22 held by a certain First Investment & Finance Corporation. The premium is for an All Risks Cover for the Gas Turbine for a period between 22/6/2005 and 21/6/2006.

The EFCC further gave a breakdown of the properties owned by the governor.

Alamieyeseigha was a Director of an offshore company named Solomon & Peters Ltd (two middle names) and there are four (4) London properties he bought and registered in the company’s name. These properties are:

• 247, Water Gardens, London, W2 2DG, which is the registered address of Solomon & Peters Ltd. This property was purchased for £1.75million on 20/8/2003.

• 14, Mapesbury Road, London, NW2 4JB. This property was purchased for £1.4million on 6/7/2001.

• A multi-million US Dollar oil refinery in Ecuador said to be owned by Chief D.S.P. Alamieyeseigha is also being investigated.

It has also been established that he owns the following properties in Nigeria:

Lagos

• Two blocks of luxury flats at Plot 26 Bashir Dalhatu Close, Abacha Estate, Ikoyi, Lagos worth N450million.

• A mansion at 4A, Ilu Drive, Ikoyi, Lagos worth N250million.

• An estate of six luxury duplexes at No. 1, Community Road, Off Allen Avenue, Ikeja, Lagos worth N200million.

• 12, Adeyemi Lawson Street, Ikoyi, Lagos.

Abuja

• No. 7, Mississippi Street, Maitama, Abuja.

• Chelsea Hotels Abuja worth N2billion. The sum of N1.5billion has so far been paid by Chief D.S.P. Alamieyeseigha from the State government accounts held in Intercontinental Bank and International Trust Bank. A company by name Herbage Global Services Limited scheduled to have taken over the management of the hotel after the purchase is being investigated.

• A property at John Kadiya Street, Off Jose Marti Crescent, Asokoro, Abuja worth N350million.

• Bayelsa State Governor’s lodge located at Iro Dan Musa Street, off T.Y. Danjuma Street, Asokoro Area, Abuja, was also established to be owned by him.

• Plot 916 & 917, Wuse II district, Abuja.

• Plot 7, Cadastral Zone A6, Maitama Abuja.

• Plot 1267, Amazon Road, Abuja.

• Plot 3375, Cadastral Zone A6, Abuja.

• Plot 1372-1374, Cadastral Zone A7, Wuse II, Abuja.

• Plot 1281, Cadastral Zone A4, Asokoro, Abuja.

Port Harcourt

• Continental Bank Building, Boro Park, Port Harcourt.

• 3, William Jumbo Street, Old GRA, Port Harcourt was discovered to have been purchased in 2001 for N35million.

• Plot 42 (No. 20) Obagi Street, GRA Phase 1, Diobu, PH.

To be clear, i recommend she leaves the fool. Leave him, leave him, leave him.
Pack his bags and throw him the f&*k out, i'm sure Moni has enough cupboard space to accomodate cassanova

@lullaby and Toying have already expanciated on my points.
The sheer disrespect of maintaining the affair even after his wife found out is what is killing me.
This is not a one time thing, so girlfriend has to take drastic action

@prettyh
Divorce is the final course of action. Leave him and if he wants you back, he should fight for you. If he doesn't come after you, then you know it is done and dusted.
But be warned most cheaters re-offend

Habba! Which kind fight for your man that doesn't want you?

BTW who said divorcees have to be alone for the rest of their lives?

@uchesco
Don't you think it is Lanre that should be fighting for his wife and not the other way round?

After reading some of these post, i have concluded that women are the reason men cheat...especially Nigerian women.
We perpetuate this bullcrap from generation to generation.

I cannot comprehend most of the stuff i am hearing here.
So in the sake of having a husband, a woman should loose her sanity?
Pray, forgive, stop nagging, thank Moni, be like Moni...what d f&%k

Forget that Lanre wants to keep his wife AND Moni, he cannot possibly be in the wrong abi?
Forget that Lanre also took the wedding vows that he had no trouble breaking?
Is it better for children to grow up in a troubled home, than have two separate but happy parents?

The more women tolorate it, men will continue to do it.

Once bitten?

I see so many posts with people riding their high horses again.

How do you know the love you feel is the real deal?
I remember being in love in primary school, secondary school ,university etc and each time i felt more in love.
The truth is you never really know, but you trust your instincts and pray you made the right choice.
Which is why i think marriage is not a step to be taken lightly.

It is the person that wears the shoe, that knows where it pinches so no one can dictate divorce to you except you.

I don't think anyone should live in bondage for the sake of being married or for the children or whatever.
Don't get me wong, you should try to make it work, but if it doesn't well
and i am a married catholic; imagine that

I am with Seun on this one oh.

It is a vicious cycle.
A man beats his wife, his wife continues to take it, so the son assumes he has a right to beat his wife.
The son then beats his wife, who again continues to take it and their son learns to do it even better.

Nobody can make you feel inferior without your permission.
-Eleanor Roosevelt-

You think the first time your husband beats you and you hold a knife to his d*&k that night, he will try it again?

You are obviously a babe and i am sure he is not the first guy to toast you since you got married.

Normally, i wouldn't bother as it is not an issue, but him being your boss, makes it a little more serious.
It could escalate and begin to affect your work, so tell your man.

I agree, you shouldn't keep anything from your husband, but the truth is a lot of men 'especially Nigeria husbands' are fundamentally insecure.
Telling him everybody that chases your may create more problems that not...again that depends on the kind of husband you have.

I said that in jest, but the truth is most people that speak in tongues FAKE IT.

I refuse to believe that the evangelist who uses his church as a 'money making' business, is annointed by the holy spirit to speak in tongues.

BTW, why is that the first thing people do when they are 'publicly' saved?

@nferyn

Maybe your right, but this world is so damn complex, but i try

And what about the woman who has a higher sex drive than her husband?

Does that make her entitled to more than one husband?

I think i'm a pretty tolerant person

I have/know gay friends/people who are wonderful

...but when i think about this i get goose bumps.

No fact, no data, no logic....just me

I have some for the ladies...i don't have power to post one by one


Inside every older lady is a younger lady -- wondering what the hell happened.
-CoraHarvey Armstrong-

Inside me lives a skinny woman crying to get out. But I can usually shut her up with cookies.

The hardest years in life are those between ten and seventy.
-Helen Hayes (at 73)-

I refuse to think of them as chin hairs. I think of them as stray eyebrows.
-Janette Barber-

Things are going to get a lot worse before they get worse.
-Lily Tomlin-

A male gynaecologist is like an auto mechanic who never owned a car.
-Carrie Snow-

Laugh and the world laughs with you. Cry and you cry with your girlfriends.
-Laurie Kuslansky-

My second favourite household chore is ironing. My first being, hitting my head on the top bunk bed until I faint.
-Erma Bombeck-

Old age ain't no place for sissies.
-Bette Davis-

A man's got to do what a man's got to do. A woman must do what he can't.
-Rhonda Hansome-

The phrase "working mother" is redundant.
-Jane Sellman-

Every time I close the door on reality, it comes in through the windows.
-Jennifer Unlimited-

Whatever women must do they must do twice as well as men to be thought half as good. Luckily, this is not difficult.
-Charlotte Whitton-

Thirty-five is when you finally get your head together and your body starts falling apart.
-Caryn Leschen-

I try to take one day at a time -- but sometimes several days attack me at once.
-Jennifer Unlimited-

If you can't be a good example -- then you'll just have to be a horrible warning.
-Catherine-

When I was young, I was put in a school for retarded kids for two years before they realized I actually had a hearing loss. And they called ME slow!
-Kathy Buckley-

I'm not offended by all the dumb blonde jokes because I know I'm not dumb -- and I'm also not blonde.
-Dolly Parton-

If high heels were so wonderful, men would still be wearing them.
-Sue Grafton-

I'm not going to vacuum 'til Sears makes one you can ride on.
-Roseanne Barr-

When women are depressed they either eat or go shopping. Men invade another country..
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Behind every successful man is a surprised woman.
-Maryon Pearson-

In politics, if you want anything said, ask a man. If you want anything done, ask a woman.
-Margaret Thatcher-

I have yet to hear a man ask for advice on how to combine marriage and a career.
-Gloria Steinem-

I am a marvellous housekeeper. Every time I leave a man, I keep his house.
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Nobody can make you feel inferior without your permission.
-Eleanor Roosevelt-

@Lioness

I am not a bible guru, but i'm sure there is a bible passage that says the gift of the holy spirit is different for different people...speaking in tongues, healing etc

You see this brings me back to my statement about people reading/interpreting the bible literally

You can turn the bible upside down and side to side. I believe one reads the bible and the spirit (yes, GOD the holy spirit) interpretes it to you as applicable.
So, your understanding of a certain scripture in the context of your life, would be totally different from mine.

I am sure if you read the bible you will find references for and against alcohol.
What about the people that binge on food? Are their body's not temples?
We tend to pick on things that are defined by society as good or bad and put a religious spin on it...such as smoking and alcohol...what about gluttony, greed, anger and the other deadly sins?

My philosophy is simple, everything in moderation. Aside from that, it is common sense...abi?

Lanre is alive, because he no longer loves his wife and has chosen to be with Moni...He would be dead otherwise

Baby girl, you need to see the writing on the wall.
You cannot have a husband for husband sake
A man needs to love, honour and respect his wife and Lanre obviously doesn't

@nferyn
I commend you for showing a true spirit of openness, understanding and compassion. You are looking for truth and though our paths may differ your method is commendable
Respect

Thank you...kind sir

I did not say all churches are bad and yes, i am referring to All churches (catholic et al)

I acknowledge we have problems in the institution that is the catholic church, but that does not take away from my catholic faith.
The same way, open minded people accept that there are bogus as well as original penticostal churches. that doesn't mean a true believer who worships in a 'bogus' penticostal church is less of a christian.

You can turn the bible upside down and side to side. I believe one reads the bible and the spirit (yes, GOD the holy spirit) interpretes it to you as applicable.
So, your understanding of a certain scripture in the context of your life, would be totally different from mine.

@Eddy tells

@whocares ............. jiberisturumburu rabababab turatatramama dayu tu ratus kumito ribertanika  interpretation:  what do u think about that Sucker!

Is that your language? or you speaking in tongues.......oops, i meant to say jibberish
If you care to read my earlier post and stop being emotional, you would realise i am as far from judging as it gets.

I dare to talk about perpertuating evil, because i have free will. The fact that a priest molested a child does not mean that his congregation are equally evil. The 'pastors' driving 5series on the back of a hungry and trusting congregation, what does that make his congregation?
There are gay bishops and pastors, some even use black magic. None of this is unique to any one church.

The catholic institution failed to act, to dismiss the said priests the instant the act was discovered and prosecute them accordingly and for that i am trully saddened.
It still does not make me less of a catholic.

I worship God, not the priest and i choose to use the catholic faith as my method of worship....deal with it

We need to get off our high horses accept that there is good and evil everywhere, in every religion and faith. we have people who exploit others be it sexually, financially or dare i say 'brainwashingly'.
We have fanatics and we have 'just plain crazy' folks.

Who the hell determines who is right or wrong about how one decides to worship GOD...but that is the beauty of it   'you believe without seeing'

I am so touched by this thread.
From page 1 to 5, i have smiled , cried and laughed sooo hard .

Thanks all for sharing your stories, it is great to hear real life encounters of love blossoming