₦airaland Forum

Litmus:
Indeed. But you seem to indicate that it does not happen in "saner climates" and not that it shouldn't happen in sane clims. I get that you're suggesting, by his suspension, that it isn't Fijian Police policy.

Besides I've been on a bus in the UK in which police boarded and detained the driver. You might argue that, obviously, in exceptional instances, police reserved the right to board the relevant bus and detain the driver. However this leaves the question what type of circumstances and how would police perspective versus the public perspective determine the right circumstances.

Key word - bus. Public space. Now have seen a policeman enter a private car in the UK without authorisation? Not even to arrest a driver suspected to have committed a crime, but to ask for particulars or to enforce a traffic offence.

AntiChristian:
So did those who burnt the lady ascribed their actions to Islam?

This is the reason why I say most Christians are of the devil. They claim to be lead by the Holy spirit yet they demonise without proper judgement!

Yes they brutally murdered her to protect Islam (in their warped reasoning)

And a Muslim that can behead people or burn people alive for silly reasons is not worse than the devil?

TenQ:
Ask questions when you are confused!

And you think you are knowledgeable about religious matters?

Eriggs:
In saner climes, the driver will serve prison time for this act

In saner climes, would a police man or woman jump into your car uninvited and without your permission?

In saner climes the driver will accused the police woman of stealing a gold necklace he kept beside the passenger seat.

anthonyuncle:
she's 19, your daughter is 3, that means she got pregnant at around 16 or 17.

even if age is nothing but a number, she wasn't matured for what you got her into.

carry your child, take that child to a distant relative that can take good care of her(cause your so called wife will definitely come for her), then focus on your life

Your maths is off.

She is 19 year now, and they have a 3 year old daughter. That means she was 16 when she gave birth. It then means she was 15 when she got pregnant. So the question is, at what age did he start having sex with her?

In some jurisdictions he Will be in jail. The irony is that he said he is educated. I hope his education is not in Islamic studies.

I honestly don't know if we are progressing or retrogressing. Nigeria seem to be going back to the middle ages. People are being burnt alive for blasphemy, organs are being harvested for money rituals, and innocent couples are being brutally murdered for no just cause.
We are descending lower than even savage animals.

helinues:
The UGM are simply saying they do not want any graduates or learned person from SE. They just want others to be illiterates like them.

The learned people from SE should cover their face in shame as Illiterates Ipob are rulling over them

In other words Boko Haram, meaning Book is Haram.

IPOB having a common goal with Boko Haram.

Okwyjesus:
CAN should hire able lawyers immediately for the case. Am ready to donate for the legal fees. Am not joking

Christians only knows how to make noise on social media. Muslims take action without making noise. If Muslims can assembly 34 lawyers to defend their brothers who blatantly commited murdered a Christian, how many lawyers have the Christians been able to assemble? Are there no lawyers in CAN? What has CAN done to support the family of Deborah and make sure the murders are brought to book?

UtuokeAlcoholic:
Muslims are the most tolerant of other religious adherents. You will never see Muslim blaspheme against other people religion. Muslims only disagree with your religion believe just as you disagree with their own. As you can see the girl was not killed because she didn't believe in the prophethood or message of Muhammad but because she insulted him. Don't tell me the fedility bank CEO blasphemed against Jesus, he only disagree with the hoax that Jesus was killed and rose. Which is the believe of every Muslim that Jesus was never killed nor rose.

Muslims blaspheme the Christian religion all the time.
Calling the crucifixion, death and rise of Jesus a hoax is the greatest blasphemy in Christianity. It is similar to saying "Allah is not the great and Muhammed is not his messenger".

You guys are very sick, mentally sick. Burning a helpless girl just because she voice her opinion is the height of barbarism. You guys are worse than animals.
I now understand why China treat people who believe in Islam as mentally sick and needs to be isolated from normal society.

DrFunmisticGlow:
Legalisation of abortion could have prevented this

That's the quagmire religious extremists put every sexually active young girl. They want to women who mistakingly gets pregnant to carry the baby to term as punishment for having sex outside their religious doctrine.

Abortion pills are the safest means of abortion. It's very effective for pregnancies less than 8 weeks and relatively cheap. But criminalization of abortion has made it unavailable and when available beyond the reach of most people.

mickyeddi:
Well said! In life, you don't demand respect from others, you earn it. It's time for Africans to fix the motherland.

Nigerians still possess that slave and colonial mentality. We all desired to be shipped across the oceans to use our skills and energy to work and develop foreign lands.

We destroy our own motherland and then crave for acceptance in foreign lands.

cococandy:
They are not ready for that conversation yet.

This war has made me respect the Ukrainians more. In the middle of a devastating war, most Ukrainians are staying in their country to fight. It is mainly women, children and the aged that are migrating to European neighbouring countries. The president, his wife and children are still in Ukraine as we speak. Most government officials are staying put in Ukraine despite all the bombings by Russia.

If it was in Nigeria, most Nigerians with passport would have left the country. The political elites would have sent their families abroad and have a private plane on standby to evacuate himself if the situation escalates. During ordinary SARS riots, most of the political elites ran to Europe.

Nigerians seem to have little attachments to our lands and abandon it at the slightest discomfort.

Religion (the imported ones) were imposed on us as a prison. A prison to enslave us for eternity. A prison which you cannot escape.
Religion is an effective tool to divide the nation, community and family. This is one of the main reasons African countries can never be at peace, the reason we can never develop or make any serious progress.

seguno2:
And why should they send us?
Did we send them when they were suffering
We better get our own act together and face front.

Abeg helep me ask dem, watin dem dey find for Ukraine? How many Ukrainians dey for Africa? When you make your house uncomfortable and always run to another person's house, they will treat you like shit.

Ukrainians hate africans, especially blacks.

The is the aftermath of religious indoctrination. This is what you get when you indoctrinate a child from birth. The murderers did not think they did anything wrong as they gladly posted their deeds online. These people had been indoctrinated with violence and intolerance in Islamic schools or madrasa from childhood. Islam as propagated to poor people is all about submission, fanatism and violence.

Merseycider:
They will not blame christianity now oooo but if na muslims ,na islam cause it.

Christianity and buring people alive na 5&6 mostly under the church building

She did not kill in the name of Christianity, unlike you guys that kill, behead, rape and burn people while shouting Allahu akbar.

Where have you ever seen Christians burn people alive in the name of God? Or is lying another trait of Islam apart from violence?

GreenOaksGift:
Why give birth to the child if you know you will end up killing the child? Heartless girl.

Because abortion was not readily avialable. It's both illegal and expensive.

victooman:
go and sit down abeg,, so getting a master degree means she is more intelligent and focus but expanding her business is not,, go and get that masters let me continue with this business in 3yrs let us meet and compare,, this is how you people keep deceiving young people and after school they are mostly tied down with 50k jobs and can't think for themselves,, education is not only aquired on the four wall of the universities ,, when you get your own girl teach her to read and get her phd, she can come back and become a liability to you, my own woman after her first degree must learn how to make money, get basic skills and grow a business,it is my choice and you can't do anything about it, besides we have settled and she have seen reasons to put that school on hold for now.

Same philosophy here. After my wife finished her first degree, I sent her to a culinary school to study baking. Today she makes nothing less than 50k profit every week running a snack shop. We are thing of establishing more branches and a baking school in the near future.

While doing business, you can encourage your wife to acquire a skill according to her passion or interests.

backnbeta:
They chaperoned the children for a purpose...they were not in Dubai to teach them academics, they were there to keep them safe during their stay

And were they not kept safe during their stay?

So because they chaperoned the children for a purpose, teachers should not sleep again. They should be awake throughout the whole night watching over sleeping children?

adabaraabdul:
quite true...but this thing should have never happened. no excuse whatsoever. The teachers don't have to mann the places or areas where the children are but serious logistics arrangements should have been put in place to avoid this kind of fiasco from happenning. my own opinion, there is no excuse from the side of the teachers put in charge of the students.

What logistics arrangements can you put in place to avoid 13 year old sneaking off to have sex? Even in very tightly secured schools, teens jump fences to sneak off to attend parties and do all sorts of things.

Nigerians love blaming or attacking vulnerable groups or people. Our laws are made to punish only the powerless. In this case, the teachers have no faults whatsoever. They monitored the children until they were all settled safely in their rooms. They cannot stand guard of all the rooms the children were lodged in. They too have their own lives to live. They also need to sleep and rest after monitoring children for the whole day. The Nigerian students were not the only one for the sporting event in Dubai. These 4 or 5 students were not the only students from Nigeria. All other schools did not do anything differently from how Chrisland handled their logistics. The teachers can do little about Students that are already rotten from home.

sisisioge:
I think they should have allowed teachers to sleep in the same rooms with the students. But too much money wont let them. They should have specially made the arrangement with the hotel for several beds in a room. I just dislike wahala

Are you serious? Teachers sleep in the same room as students? You really think teachers as slaves who don't deserve a life of their own. Maybe the teachers should follow the students home to monitor them in their bedrooms.

victooman:
so going for masters and coming back home to remain jobless is better,, l made 5k a day so l will continue making 5k till eternity, l wont invest and l wont do other businesses? l am been realistic here you are here yabbing what l dont know, did u even read were l emphasize on her expanding her business and source of income before going back to school,, how many people with masters are actually making that chicken 5k a day as u tag, this is my woman someone l want to spend the rest of my life with, l dont want her to live in this illusion of pilling up certificate without an iota knowledge on how to make money,,,

Gbam. I feel you my nigga. Nigerians are so obsessed with piling up useless certificates just to earn titles like Dr. or Prof. As you said, if she was interested in acquiring in-demand skills you would have been happy, but spending hundreds of thousands acquiring masters or phd in business administration or public administration is a luxury that would not add anything to your value.

They are facing charges of alleged conspiracy and conduct likely to cause a breach of public peace preferred against them by the Police.

Conspiracy kwa?
conduct likely to cause a breach of public peace, in Dubai.

You go fear charge.

This is simply a waste of judicial time.

backnbeta:
It's actually their responsibility to watch them even if it's not 247

It's not a teachers responsibility to watch students 24/7. They are responsible for the learning of the children in their respective classroom during class hours. They are not trained to be bodyguards to protect students 24/7

PrinceMajestic:
Yes he is correct, but it's only in the event of war or serious security threat. The Constitution made it clear and it can't be extended more than once 6 months. That's how I've been feeling that it could happen because of the security problems Nigeria is facing currently

So what about all other elections? You are suggesting that Nigeria is put into a political coma whereby all elections are suspended for 6 months. Meaning governors, senators, house members and state house members will remain in office. What then happens if after 6 months the situation does not change?

This is a recipe for a military coup and a disaster.

Jsaviour:
Well, this isn't about blackmail. Nobody will force him to marry the woman. The point is that cohabitation doesn't give you marriage right. If their custom says that a child born by their unmarried daughter belongs to them, then the child is theirs.

No one is arguing that cohabitation gives you marriage rights. What we are talking here is parental rights and not marriage rights. Except in igbo and some Eastern culture, marriage rights do not give parental rights.

If their custom says that a child born by their unmarried daughter belongs to them and my cultureans the English common law says that a child born by an unmarried man belongs to him, which law do you think is superior in a court of iaw? Igbo laws and culture is not superior to those of other tribes.

However, like you said, he can go to court.

Yes it can the settled in the magistrates court of where the couple lived.

I heard davido went to chioma's parents to pay something like bride price (I am not sure though) so he can be seen as the rightful owner of ifeanyi their son. He knows why he did that of he did actually

You heard wrong. Davido never paid the bride price of chioma or any of his other baby mamas.

What is something like bride price? Do igbos now have something like pride price now? What is it?

You are very funny. You speculated wrongly that Davido paid something like bride price and then affirmed that he is the rightful owner of their son.
Let Chioma's parents go to Davido's Banana Island home and kidnap Ifeanyi and see if their culture will save them from going to jail. The best chioma herself can get in a Lagos court is joint custody.

It's not about strong head, it's either you follow their way which you heard before you still went ahead to do away match or go to court like you said.

You can't force others to adhere to igbo culture, that's extremism.

I heard the guy later agreed to go ahead with the marriage which I never supported from my initial comment. I don't support marriage with the dead. He wanted to enjoy free woman and child, now he has seen the consequences of trying to outsmart the system.

If he did, then he succumbed to threats and blackmail. The girls shameless family will continue to threaten and blackmail him for a long time.

He saw all the Yoruba girls but left them to go to south south/south East (whichever one the lady is from) even when he knew that was their custom.

What of the shameless girl that left igbo or south Eastern men and packed her load to live with a western man for over 5 years without marriage. What of her family that allowed such her 5 years without raising eye brows when they all knew that other tribes have their own different culture. Why do igbos use threats and blackmail to impose their culture in other people's lands?

Sheh me and you dey here while hisbah destroy drinks? Why didn't the owners go to court? When people tell you about their culture abi whatever in Nigeria, simply avoid them. Court may not be able to help you when it comes to some useless Nigerian culture

Hisbah impose their religion in their own lands. Husbah will not come to Umuahia to impose sharia on igbos.

Jsaviour:
In life, you can't eat you cake and have it back. We are too emotional when it comes to real issues. He either marries the lady to claim the child or leave the child for the parents of a lady who gave birth outside wedlock. It's simple maths

You can not blackmail a man to marry a woman. It just does not happen with many tribes in the South. You cannot use pregnancy or baby to tie a man.

The courts will settle paternity if in doubt.

The biggest lesson from this war is that the days of tanks being a decisive weapon in a real war is over. Tanks which were the main weapon of the German Blitzkrieg tactics of WW2 is now useless. Thanks to the javelin

This is her quote that got me curious;

I'll release a comprehensive video of everything that happened and the answers to questions."

Meaning she has more damaging photos or videos.

Sagefromtheeast:
She needs mental examination.
She's disturbed.
And she will soon commit suicide.

Then what does Apostle Suleiman need? Mental and spiritual commendation?

Omoluabi16:
well she's done her worst. Dented his image, released his nudes. So I don't think she has any trumpcard left.Shes shameless, crazy. The Apostle fumbled Sha, but who am I to judge him?

So you cannot judge Apostle, but you can judge Stephanie Otobo. She is alleging blackmail intimidation and threats to her life - she is crazy. Apostle that is accused of adultery, threatening and intimidation - do not judge him.

You guys are super misogynistic. I wonder if you guys have mothers and sisters.

Subsaharan:
You'll have to come to the continent. You're choosing a life partner, not a boyfriend.

There are a lot of good men and bad men as it is everywhere in the world.

The cultures are very different of course. There are a lot of things AAs do that would shock an average African and vice versa.

But you have to come to the continent to make that choice when you're ready, this are things of the heart it is imperative you do it with absolute caution and an open mind.
I wish you all the best.

PS: There is also a large African community in America, the easiest place to meet African men is the churches.
So you can explore your options there.

That's the only chance of marrying an African that is predicated on genuine love. If you just get a partner online or through recommendations from friends or colleagues, then you are in for a huge heart break and scam. You are viewed as one big human green card. So you will receive thousands of offers of love. But once they get the green card, you will be dumped faster that a potato sack.

If you can physically come to Africa through one programme, ether education or work related. You will be able to mingle and understand the African culture or mentality. The chances of finding someone who won't just marry you for a green card is higher.

As a caveat, don't start relationship with someone without a genuine and verifiable source of income. Make sure the person is educated, has a regular job or veritable business.

Buckeyemedia1:
Bravery without common sense is stupidity that leads to genocide, Mumu I am not a senseless ipobian, make Russia bomb me the way Federal Government bombard Biafra 1967-70, wey make Odumegwu Ojukwu flee, abandon your Ancestors for Eastern Nigeria?

But IPOBians say igbos are the bravest people in the world. They claim they can take a bullet with their chest. Their motto is "biafra or death" even if the death means shooting themselves in the chest.

Believe me if Ukraine can just allow 100 IPOBian mercenaries into Mariupol, Russians would take to their heels.