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lomprico:
Forged

The onus now lies on you to prove the certificates and statement of result are forged? I

lomprico:
Lol, the dulard did not finish primary schoo!

But he presented a statement of result from Government College Katsina, Results from Cambridge University UK and O/Level Certificate from WAEC.

Once again what is your evidence that Buhari did not finish primary school?

shoprite:
Not a big deal if you ask me . . .even some unknown / obscure individuals have one time or the other misplaced their certificates, so it happens!
The good thing here is that all the schools mentioned still exist both home and abroad, organizations where he worked both home and abroad also still exist and I doubt they would have engaged someone without the required qualification for the positions he occupied, so why not reach out and get confirmation if anyone is in doubt?

Why can't he just go to the schools and demand officially his testimonials and statement of result?

At least Buhari did the same when his WAEC certificate became a political issue. Even though he had a certificate from US War College and his name is actually in their school roster.

chukwuibuipob:
u have WAEC office in Lagos,male una write them.Simple

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You are just unreasonably bigoted. I have no legal right to write WAEC to demand for anyone's certificate. Gani Fawehinmi could not get Tinubu's cartificates. Its only Tinubu that can write WAEC to demand his certificate.


This is the outcome of someone else who tried to get Tinubu's certificate

Alleged certificate forgery: Court dismisses suit against Tinubu

Lagos – A Federal High Court sitting in Lagos on Tuesday dismissed an application seeking to compel the Inspector-General of Police (IGP) to investigate former Lagos State Gov., Chief Bola Tinubu, for alleged certificate forgery.

Justice Saliu Saidu dismissed the application, filed by one Dr Dominic Adegbola, seeking to reopen the suit initially instituted by late Chief Gani Fawehinmi in 1999.

Adegbola had sought for an order compelling the IGP to commence investigation into the alleged certificate forgery case.

Dismissing the application, the judge held that by Order 34, Rule 4 of the Federal High Court Civil Procedure Rules, the applicant failed to satisfy the mandatory requirements of the law.


He also held that such an application must be filed before the court, within three months when the alleged fraudulent act was detected.

https://www.vanguardngr.com/2013/06/alleged-certificate-forgery-court-dismisses-suit-against-tinubu/amp/

The cases are always thrown out with stupid technicalities.

2elliot:
Can I use this your line to get a job at your company if you had one?

What they are saying is that companies should not ask for primary and secondary school history from prospective employees once they present B.Sc, M.Sc, P.Hd certificates.

lomprico:
Abi? At least buhari did something to his even though we know it's fake

What proof do you have to know Buhari's certificates/ statement of results are fake?

obailala:
INEC's requirement for the presidency is for candidates to provide at least a WAEC result; Tinubu already has a university degree but someone thinks he went to the Uni without primary and secondary education and thinks the man is uneducated because he didnt provide primary 6 result?

If I were Tinubu, I personally wouldnt state the name of the schools too, since it's giving my political opponents mass hysteria. I'd gladly leave them to exhaust their time and resources chasing after nonsense till it's too late; same nonsense that was fone with Buhari
One day one day, Nigerians go eventually get sense.

I am shocked at your mindset. Are you not concerned about the historical background of the person who is likely to lead you and your children for the next 4 possibly 8 years? Don't you want to know if the person has a criminal or questionable history? Don't you want to know how he was able to gain admission into a university without an o/level certificate? Did he impersonate someone else? Did he use "Oluwole" certificates? Was he admitted without O/level certificate?

At least the electorate he expects to vote for him deserves to know his academic history. Except you feel their opinions and votes don't matter.

Remember Gani Fawehinmi took this certificate issue all the way to the supreme court while Tinubu was governor. The issue remained unresolved as the supreme court threw out the case based on technicalities.

chukwuibuipob:
forward ur enquiries to Chicago state University/go to his doormat and ask him.Do u gain admission to university without ur WAEC/GCE?

Chicago state University does not give WAEC certificates.

Before the information technology age, lots of People gain admission to universities with fake results or other people's certificates. I know someone (someone very close to me) who is still working with a multinational company with the result of his brother.

All Nigerians are asking for is the WAEC result of Ashiwaju Bola Tinubu. Is that too much to ask?

tfelicityk:
Senator Asiwaju Bola Ahmed Is among the man on Earth who didn't attend primary, secondary and tertiary education but was able to READ and WRITE, become an ACCOUNTANT, worked in world known companies including MOBIL Nigeria.

He's indeed a GENIUS!

We are not asking for conjectures and speculations, we are asking for proof that a person named Bola Tinubu attended primary and secondary school anywhere in the world. Just one proof. Is that too difficult to provide?

MrBlock:
Let's see how many of you here would still have your primary and secondary school certificates 40 years from now.

You mean you cannot go to your school and request a certified true copy of your certificate or statement of result?

chukwuibuipob:
he might be saying the truth about his cert.Even Chicago University confam his studentship...

Where is proof he has a secondary school or WAEC certificate? Which certificate did ne use to gain admission into Chicago State University?

shigishege:
It never made any difference. He didn't denied that he didn't attend primary school, he said his certificates were stolen. So what's up?

If he lost his certificates, what stops him from applying for certified true copies or statements of result from his alma maters?

ono:
Logical reasonings fade into oblivion when we talk of things about the rulership of this world, wirinet. The things of the spirit and that of the flesh (the world we live in) run contrary to one another.

For once, we agree - religion is also an evil scheme foisted on gullible people by no one else than the master of lies himself - the Devil. So you are right in that "religious" people (you said theists - same to me) and their religion are also a huge part of the problem. Non theist rulers "appear" to be doing well. That is a lie from the pit of hell. Do not be deceived.

And that's the reason you should not be a part of these evil machinations, my friend. Stay clear or you'd be a part of those that will be partakers of the wrath of God that's to be poured (in full measure) on the children of disobedience!

Laws that attempt to regulate things of the spirit don't work. They create more problems than they purport to solve. Examples are abound in history, eg., laws that banned alcohol, prostitution, fornication, adultery, marijuana, etc the dont stand the test of time.

ono:
How a human being in this world will be living and have a view about babies like this mortal has stated here is the reason the whole world lies in darkness and governed by foul beings in high places. But we thank God, He's not going to allow their type to be in the majority. They will always and perpetually be in the minority and will be eliminated from the earth!

May the good Lord have mercy on your soul and free you from the demons of Hell!

You are just high on the opium of religion which has affected the areas of the cerebrum responsible logical reasoning.

Over 95% of the world is being governed by theists and they have made a mess of it. The few non theist governments are the actual ones doing well in terms of human development, peace and morality.

Forcing women to birth children they don't want is Evil. It's like punishing children along with their mothers for the sexual sins of the mother. This is resulting in loveless children that further projects hate onto the world.

basilico:
Describing a baby as a foreign body likens the baby to a virus for instance, A baby is an extension of her body carrying her genes .
When you a call a baby a foreign thing You are setting the stage that she can dispose the baby off like a virus any time she feels like.

It's all a matter of perspective. If a woman only wants to enjoy the pleasures of sex but not the consequence of a baby. If a baby enters her body, she will view it no better than a virus and attempt to get rid of it.

basilico:
A household with a father and mother I would term it stable if they are not at loggerheads.
Good school. The essence of education is to bring up kids holistically and monitor their development. There are very many good state and public schools.
Birth control. I wont describe how I am sure I will not get another but its a matter that we have discussed.
A baby is not a foreign body in a woman . It is a baby, you never know what that baby will turn out to be in life so dont kill it unless there is a maternal risk

A baby is a foreign body in a woman. The woman's body has special mechanism to protect the woman's immune system from attacking the fetus right from the zygote stage. Sometimes this mechanism does not work and the woman's immune system attacks the fetus causing perennial miscarriage.

I don't expect that kind of argument from an educated person like you. I expect that from illiterates who use the "you never know what that baby will turn out to be" or "babies are blessings from God" to create children they cannot take care of, thereby creating millions of almajiris and street children that go on to constitute menace to the society.

itchie:
Lol, we are not the ones crying, we are celebrating the victory, it's your side that are wailing everywhere. AOC, Waters, green and co were at the supreme court with their bullhorns and speakers wailing as if the world was coming to an end. One liberal lunatic even climbed the frederick douglass memorial bridge and was wailing his eyes out because people haven't filled the streets to protest the judgement . Tell your people to get a grip on themselves

This is what is called a pyrrhic victory. It will not discourage or reduce abortion. It will only make it more expensive and unsafe. Other countries tried banning abortion. It did not work, only for them to realize their mistakes decades later and unban it.

basilico:
A stable family advices the kids on what to do and to be open . A good school monitors students for signs of being sexually active or having personal problems eg parents not being there . I always go to school meetings at least once a term where the teacher will outline his/her observations then I can go talk to the child if something is amiss. I am not the perfect parent but at least my kids wont do anything without letting us know, Its all about communication with the children .And the kids know that their parents love them, that's enough for the kids d for they know parents have their back.

I highlighted the key points in your argument.
You talk about stable family. How many families in Nigeria (and even the US) are stable? Lots of children grow up in disjointed families. Might be a a consequence of polygamy, separation, divorce or even work related stress and pressures. There are families in which the children are subjected to all kinds of emotional, physical or sexual abuse among other types of child abuse.

Good school? How many good schools have you identified particularly among boarding schools. Schools of nowadays suffer from the same incompetence, corruption/immorality and greed that afflict the general society. It will be a grave error for parents to abdicate the raising and monitoring of children to schoools. My wife and I monitor my children like hawks and believe in the Bible injunction of "spare the rod and spoil the child" when necessary.

Women have myriad of ways of avoiding pregnancy. I know of some couples where the woman gets depo provera while the husband wants kids .

True. But the myriad of ways does not always work or available when needed.
Family dynamics must be discussed and agreed upon before marriage. In my own case I only wanted 2 children, but after 2 boys my wife was begging for another child because she felt lonely being the only female in the house. I agreed and tried again. When she got pregnant, she practically spent the early period in her church in prayers. I made it clear that if its also a boy, that is, because I don't have the energy and resources to raise 4 children. So when it came out a girl, she was over the moon. Since then she had been on birth control. It failed once and she had to go to her chemist friend for an abortion pill. Which took care of it effortlessly. My daughter was 8 yesterday and it was a big celebration both at her school and at home.
What I am getting at is that the decision to have a child should rest solely on the couples or woman or bears responsibility for birthing, caring and raising the child.

If you hear the cost of CS nowadays fear go catch you to get pregnant. We never even talk of pampers yet.

Ectopic pregnancy. The life of the mother and kid are in danger so terminate. But the screaming liberals want to be sent abortion pills via mail any time they feel like they want to get rid of the baby inside them.

But many red states says want to prohibit abortion under all and any circumstances.
Yes abortion pills should be made readily available just like contraceptive pills. Afterall they work in similar ways to achieve the same goal.

If a woman does not want a foreign body inside her, you cannot force her to. If you force her to birth a baby she doesn't want, then what happens to the baby once it leaves her body. Are you also going to prosecute her for abandoning the baby and refusing to breatfeed it?

Elnuk34:
My God feeling tells me that the guy planned all these from the beginning. Obviously, he is older than 15. The next thing is for him to seek for asylum.

You guys are still avoiding the main mystery question. How did a poor boy pushing wheel barrow in Ikotun meet a whole senator (a former deputy senate president at that? What is the relationship between the senator and the boy?

itchie:
A woman that doesn't want to have babies at any stage of her life has so many other safe sex options available to her. Abortion is not a contraceptive.

If all safe sex options available fails nko? Or if she is too young (12 -14), was raped or involved incest nko?

What of ectopic pregnancy? How will you guys deal with ectopic pregnancy?

otipoju:
Typical human being. Laying heavy allegations without knowledge of any facts.

Ekweremadu clearly stated in the supporting doc to the embassy that the man was an organ donor for his child. How is something trafficking when you have clearly told the government your intention for applying for visa .

Applying for a visa for the boy does not exonerate Ekweremadu from human trafficking. What will exonerate him is how he came about the boy, his relationship with the boy. People buy slaves in Nigeria and applies for visa to take them abroad.

obailala:
Yeah this is exactly the reason I said it's very unlikely that the boy wasnt made aware of the reason for his travel. Ekweremmadu may have been desperate but definitely not foolish. He definitely would have known that the doctors would question the boy before the procedure; so there's no way the boy wouldn't have been told why they were taking him to the UK.

If they wanted to truly 'harvest' his organs without his consent, they would have opted for other shady locations, definitely not the Royal Free Hospital London.

Leave the harvest his organs without his consent part. That's to add spice and salt to the story. Most likely there was some financial inducements and the boy is aware that One Ekwerenmadu dare not raise the issue of money in court, else he will land in jail.

Halo22:
With the passport and the letter Ekweremadu wrote to the British embassy, he is already vindicated. Shikena!

Implicated or vindicated? Did the boy truly agree to donate one of his kidney to a complete stranger ? And why?

jaxxy:
why would a 21yr old follow a stranger to the uk? whatever agreement they had as long as Ekweremadu didn't say he way buying his kidney knowing its against the law he has no issues. A 21 year old is an adult.

You dey ask that one again? Is there any 21 year old guy from a poor family that would miss the opportunity to japa?

Any gentleman's or under the radar agreement is the boys business to prove if he likes and if he can. Everybody will play smart.

The agreement gentleman's or otherwise is null and void abinitio (according to my learned friends).

why not say NO than causing trouble for people who didn't force u into anything.

He saw a once in a life time opportunity and took it.

obailala:
Your allegation that Ekweremmadu may have arranged an all expense paid trip for the boy to the UK without letting him know the reason for travel totally holds no water in my opinion. There's absolutely no way the boy wouldn't have known the reason he was picked up, cleaned up and taken on a full expense paid trip to London.

Ekweremmadu may have been desperate, but he's definitely not a fool. If he wanted to deceive the boy to a foreign land to dubiously harvest his organs without consent as alleged, he wouldn't be so foolish to choose a hospital in central London for such an operation. There are many other countries he could have opted for if he wanted to do it illegally.

Ekwerenmadu was not very smart at all. UK
(and US) is not the place you should carry out such not so legal activity. The doctors and authorities would interrogate the boy and pass through some rigorous administrative process before carrying out such operation. They would want to find out why the boy agreed to donate his kidney.

Ekwerenmadu should have done the operation in India or even UAE where they would not ask much questions.

Judolisco:
Where d parents of dis boy arbi him no get parents?

I am sure the patents were not aware of the arrangement. Which parent will agree for his son to donate a kidney to a total stranger even with money involved?
I am curious to know the relationship between the Ekwerenmadus and the boy.

jaxxy:
U just open ur mouth and say anything like. And who told u the 21 year old doesn't know what he's doing and agreed to donate?

He has already showed himself as an active liar with his age claims. Anything else is left for other legal documents to determine.

U don't lie on people to achieve ur selfish agenda.

Answer this question, why will a 21 year old agree to donate a kidney to a stranger? What are the incentives?

Even though I think the boy is playing smart, you can not exonerate Ekwerenmadu for being shady and liable for engaging in illegality.
What is his relationships with the boy? Is there monetary inducement involved? If the boy was a relation, I am certain there would not be any issue. Paying (buying) for an organ is clearly illegal. There are legal processes for getting donated organs.

benalvino3:
One is in the constitution, the other is not

Sorry but I have elect not to respond to you.

It's not reasonable arguing with someone who is so obsessed with trump and all his election fraud conspiracies, that they become delusional. Its like arguing with a flat earth believer. No matter the evidence presented, even if you put them in a rocket and send them to the moon, they will still find a conspiracy to continue his delusions.
No matter the evidence. Even if Ivanka, Jared, Steve bannon and Trump himself confess that the Biden actually won the elections. A few maniacs will still find a conspiracy to dispute their statements.

budaatum:
By civilly being disobedient. They can fill their already overfilled jails with abortees.

And good one America Supreme Court for letting each state decide, though I'm amused they won't let New York decide its own gun laws.

Imagine states are free to determine their abortion laws but are not free to determine their gun laws. And conservatives claim to concerned about human life. Hypocrisy of the highest order.

BenzEne1:
Yes I am a slave of Allah, I humbly accept that. You are also free to wear whatever you want of your traditional regalia to wherever place. No Muslim SLAVE will bother you. We don't care about your clothing. It's your actions against us we will always resist.

So a woman can wear bum shorts and spaghetti top to a public school or space if she can prove that it's part if her believe, culture or fashion sense?

JARUSHUB:
This particular job in Ikoyi has those advantages.

Generally speaking, working in Ikoyi is marginally better than Ikeja in terms of networking opportunities just by location.

In this post Covid era of Internet and work at home? My friend that works for a indigenous oil company has not gone to his physical office since covid. He goes to their physical office maybe once a month.

Greenscientist:
Nigeria is not even a secular country, sir. We're a religious Nation.

So how would you then interpret Section 10 chapter 1 Part II of the Nigerian Constitution Section 10 that Prohibition establishment of State Religion.
"The Government of the Federation or of a State shall not adopt any religion as State Religion."