₦airaland Forum

basilico:
Might as well kill off the undesirables in the society. The elites then choose who lives and dies and who remains a serf.
Sounds racist to me.

Man you like talking off point. What concern the elites with abortion debate. The elites will always be able to procure abortion whether banned or not. It's the poor masses that suffers the consequences of unwanted babies. They are the ones that born like rats.

Enugurangers:
School fees at good schools are insanely expensive.

Good schools ke? Any private school worth to be called a school has doubled its fees.
I have been having headache since my wife told me I much I must pay for my three children this term.

benalvino3:
that's rubbish. how do you know if a baby will be a doctor, a criminal or a lawyer? unwanted babies are bad to the society so lets kill it all the criminals who are bad for the society as well. Oh wait, you cant do that... you people sha.

Why do you always appeal to emotion. The type of arguments you sometimes put out is what I expect to hear from an illiterate okada driver or farmer. I don't expect someone as educated as you purport to be to use the excuse of "you don't know if the pikin would become president" to have children you just can't cater for.

I know okada riders with 5 children living in a "face me I face you, and the wife is pregnant with a sixth. When I asked him why, his argument is the same as yours, only God knows what the children will become.
Sickening!

Tomorrow you will see the children (sometimes as young as carrying plantain on their heads roaming the streets.

Cmanforall:
What?

Sorry to hear your ordeal. This is the situation we fund ourselves in the country. We are almost in a failed state. The government have no interest in protecting the general population, they are only interested in protecting themselves. The police would not even answer you.

The only way of saving your niece is to negotiate with the kidnappers. Keep talking to them and make them realize you are trying to raise the money. From other reports we have read in the media, they kill those that don't have anyone to pay their ransome and sell their body parts to recover some money off the kidnapped. They see it strictly as a business and will not want to lose their assert (your niece) without recovering some money.

God bless you buda for posing this article. People like benalvino3 don't care the negative impact of unwanted babies on women, families and society at large. They just want to satisfy their rabid thirst for revenge and punishment for sexual immorality.

A few months ago, I was late. You know what I mean: My usual period day came and went without a spot, and suddenly every wave of exhaustion, every twinge of anxious nausea, became a harbinger of a very unintended pregnancy, a sign that my NuvaRing had failed me. I’m married, happily at that. And I’m a mother, happily as well. But our family feels “complete,” as demographers put it, at one child. And so my husband and I had to make a choice—or so we thought, for a very tense week before my body made the choice for me. As we lay awake at night whispering pros and cons for continuing the pregnancy, stopping only when our daughter padded in to snuggle under our covers in the predawn hours, I wondered if our mere deliberating might call into question my soundness as a mother. If I, already happily immersed in parenting, chose to terminate, wouldn’t I be unusual for doing so, maybe even stigmatized as a sort of prenatal Medea?

I was wrong. Women who are already mothers have more abortions than anyone else, and by an increasingly wide margin. When Guttmacher Institute researchers last ran the numbers in 2008 they found that 61 percent of women who terminate a pregnancy in this country already have at least one child. That was before the recession, though—before the poverty rate rose to swallow 40.7 percent of women who head families, many of whom know they can’t afford another child.* So I asked the National Abortion Federation, a professional association of abortion providers, to run the numbers on the women visiting their clinics and calling their hotlines in the past few years. The resulting figures shocked NAF President Vicki Saporta, who called to tell me that every year since 2008, a whopping 72 percent of NAF clients looking to terminate a pregnancy were already mothers, up at least 10 percent from the years before the economy crashed.

But while the typical abortion patient is a mother, very few people seem to realize it. Lawrence Finer, Guttmacher’s director of domestic research, told me that this fact is “one of the most unknown and surprising statistics across the board.”* Guttmacher is trying to correct the public’s misperceptions with a YouTube PSA designed to show that women who have abortions aren’t necessarily who we think they are. But why are these misperceptions so skewed in the first place? Is the intersection of motherhood and abortion a minefield that activists choose not to navigate?

NAF’s Saporta told me she thinks anti-abortionists have successfully depicted women who choose to terminate a pregnancy as sexually indiscriminate. “It’s much harder to demonize the mother who is struggling to support the kid she already has,” she says. But then why doesn’t the group that she leads make this very point? “Good question—I think we should,” she replied. I also put the question to Gloria Feldt, the former longtime Planned Parenthood Federation of America president. “I believe the whole movement has made a terrible mistake,” she said, referring to the pro-choice movement’s decision to avoid talking about mothers’ motives for having abortions, and instead focus “on the less frequent reasons, which are rape and incest or teens who are simply not ready to be parents.”

For her part, Rachel Jones, a senior research associate at the Guttmacher Institute, thinks that public perceptions of who aborts and why are skewed mostly as a result of all the political heat around late-term abortions. and adolescent abortions (minors have only 7 percent of all abortions). In other words, she argues, mothers who abort are invisible not because anyone is conspiring to keep them that way, but because so much attention is focused on other women.

[b] But why do mothers have so many abortions in the first place? Jones co-authored a qualitative study titled “I Would Want To Give My Child, Like, Everything in the World: How Issues of Motherhood Influence Women Who Have Abortions,” which found that most mothers who abort say they are doing so to protect the kids they already have. As Jones points out, that rationale is tough to demonize politically, especially when you consider that most women making this choice are contending with some combination of low income, unemployment, and a lack of health insurance, or are struggling to raise kids on their own.

These are the kinds of stories Anne Baker hears daily across the little round table in her office at the St. Louis-area Hope Clinic for Women, where she has been counseling abortion seekers for 35 years. In 2008, the last year for which the clinic has available numbers, 62 percent of its patients were mothers. But Baker says the number of mothers coming in has swelled markedly since then, just as it did during the economic slowdown of the late ’70s, when she was first starting out at the clinic. She has compiled a list of 25 reasons mothers commonly give her for not having another child. By far the No. 1 reason is a desire to protect the families they already have. Most of the time, this calculus is an economic one, though Baker has also noted a growing number of women like me, women who are “less apologetic than they used to be about saying they’re a good mom and for them to continue to be a good mom, they choose to do it with one.”

Of course, when it comes to public opinion, it’s one thing for a mother to choose an abortion out of desperation, and another to do it out of preference. Feldt says the motivations behind a mother’s choice to terminate place her on a sliding scale of public opinion. Recalling her days polling voters at PPFA, she describes the American view of who gets to have an abortion like this: “The less in control of a woman’s life she is, the more the public supports her right to make that choice [to have an abortion]. The more she is in control of her life, saying this is the life I choose, the less people support it.” So if a mother who is destitute chooses to abort, we might accept her decision. But someone like me, who could support another child if only I moved to a less expensive ZIP code and got a job with a steadier paycheck? I’d be a moral pariah.

“It’s scandalous for white women like you and me,” Jennifer Baumgardner recently told me over coffee. When Baumgardner gathered women’s abortion testimonies for her book Abortion and Life, she had yet to terminate a pregnancy herself (on the book’s cover, she’s pictured pregnant with her second child). But when she subsequently found herself pregnant again, she chose to abort rather than have a third child. When we start talking about why the pro-choice movement hasn’t made mothers more of the story of abortion in America, Baumgardner rolls her eyes. “Women in the movement have this enormous disconnect between actual lives and what they believe in,” she says. “They’ll talk about other women but they think their own story can be used to undermine them.”

Is all this true, though? Is the stigma that attaches to abortion actually compounded if one makes this choice as a mother? Are we right to think that terminating a pregnancy after carrying another one successfully to term will undermine our standing not just as women but as good parents?

At the University of California-San Francisco, Kate Cockrill directs the Social and Emotional Aspects of Abortion Program, and is trying to measure sources of stigma. She has found that many mothers deliberately explain their choice to abort in the context of their motherhood, thinking that doing so will ward off judgment. “Motherhood is an assertion of their humanity,” Cockrill told me of women who fear condemnation, “and claiming their motherhood is part of managing the stigma of abortion.”

Still, Cockrill has found that once they have established social identities as mothers, many women will do everything they can to avoid tarnishing that identity. For example, she found women who had babies delivered by an OB-GYN refused to see that physician when they found themselves in an unwanted pregnancy. “They wanted to be seen as a mother,” she said, “not an abortion patient.”

Corrections, Oct. 18, 2011: This article originally stated that 42 percent of women live in poverty. This statistic refers only to women who head families, and the correct percentage is 40.7, not 42 percent. (Return to the corrected sentence.) The article also misidentified Lawrence Finer as Larry. (Return to the current sentence.)
https://slate.com/human-interest/2011/10/most-surprising-abortion-statistic-the-majority-of-women-who-terminate-pregnancies-are-already-mothers.html

The unspoken truth among gynocologists who perform abortion is that married women with children already perform more abortions than young single girls. Safe Abortion is so expensive in Nigeria that only the well to do can reasonable afford it. Most single girls can only afford quack back alley abortions which most of the time lead to complications or even death. Hypocritical religious nuts love to hide their head in the sand pretending the problem doesn't exist or just wish away the problem.

With the present economic realilities in Nigeria having a child must be well thought out and planned for. The religious mantra " God will take care of the pikin" is no longer tenable. School just started and most families are already stressed looking for school fees apart from New books, school bags, school sandals, etc.

Enugurangers:
I don't need anyone to tell me you are a very irresponsible man. I pity any LovePeddler that would open her legs, and let you inseminate her with your cursed seeds. In your warped mind, banning abortion at 6 weeks would stop women from aborting a foetus just as banning abortion would stop men and women from having Nightstand or prostituting. You are very daft as many posters have mentioned on this thread. You are a good reason why abortion should be legal so you don't pass on your stupidity.

Abortion is illegal in Nigeria, but there are countless quacks in back alleys still damaging women's womb all over the country because randy goats like you won't keep their dirty penis' in their pants.

He will never understand or pretend not to understand. The countries where abortion is banned usually has higher rate of abortion than countries it is legal. Criminalizing abortion had never discouraged or reduced abortion anywhere. It only drives it underground making it more expensive and less safe. New South Wales and Northern Ireland found out the hard way. After banning abortion for decades, they found out that outright ban is fools paradise and eventually legalized it.

budaatum:
Not, her body his choice, ben!

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-35551165

Don't mind him, always using strawman's argument.

benalvino3:
Lmao. No, you are getting cornered. Murder is murder, abortion should be abortion. A woman cannot say kill the baby in my womb and it's called abortion and at the same time it's murder when another person does it without her concent

Almost drowning as the straws you are clutching is getting smaller. Show me a murder conviction for killing an unborn baby. I not talking about press interpretations. I mean an actual murder conviction for a baby solely based on an aborted baby without the mother being the subject of the case.

benalvino3:
Tell me what he did? You people call it fetus and it does not have rights until its outside the womb but now it's a baby because the mother did not say remove it from my womb.

You are slowly getting it - woman's rights to her body.

benalvino3:
When the woman consent it's abortion when she does not it's murder? Flip flop

That's the law you and the serenios you are referring us to.

benalvino3:
Which excuse will you bring? Causing the death of unborn child is murder which is why he was charged for it. Make u and the media continue to show your inhumane behavior by playing with words just to kill a baby

Stop the emotional outburst and show us the murder charge.

benalvino3:
If a fetus is not a legal person and legal status starts when the baby leaves the mothers womb,

Why charge people for killing unborn child?

Still grasping straws. Where was murder stated in the charge? The man was sentenced to 16 years for assaults on the girlfriend which resulted in the death of her baby. He terminated the pregnancy violently without the consent of his girlfriend by kicking her stomach repeatedly.

Are you telling me, he would have been charged for murder if the girlfriend had an abortion willingly?

benalvino3:
Wirinet, tell me he committed abortion and not murder.

Mother of the unborn child survived but the unborn did not. You are here posting excuses and dehumanizing arguments or excuse to kill a baby.

The police can charge anything. It is left for them to prove it using relevant laws. Murder is one of 10 charges by the police. Let's see how many of the charges he is found guilty of.

A grand jury indicted Payne on a total of 10 counts including Murder, Involuntary Manslaughter, Attempted Murder, and Felonious Assault (all with 3-year Firearm Specifications and 5-year Drive-by Shooting Firearm Specifications), WUD, CCW, and Improperly Handling Firearms in a Motor Vehicle.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/abc6onyourside.com/amp/news/local/man-indicted-for-death-of-unborn-baby

When a woman wants to kill a baby in her womb it's abortion when another person does the same thing it's murder.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSDLmw2dhJ4

Refer back to my past post on consent of the woman.

budaatum:
It is, their body their choice, which is precisely why, one could say, they do not get arrested.

Or do people get arrested when they "take cocain or illegal drugs" ben?

E surprise me too o! People getting arrested for taking cocaine. Maybe he thinks other countries are Nigeria where you can be arrested for just strolling.

For you to me arrested for taking cocaine in other climes, you must also constitute a nuisance or danger to society.

benalvino3:
And the law has changed and you people are crying. This is the hypocrisy that you guys like to radiate. There is no nonsense from the left you guys don't support.

Why not give us the details of the law and it's punishments? I have not seen the law butI am certain it does not equate to murder

I asked you a question, if you are a parent, how many children do you have? 3, 4? Is that all the time you have had sex with your wife? If your answer is no, how many times have you guys done abortion? Also, do you take birth control measures to make sure you don't commit abortion at least 12 times a year?

It's none of your business how many children I have, how many times I have sex with my wife and the type of birth control measures we choose to employ. You are not my family or my doctor. You are what we call in these parts of the world a "poke nose".

If my wife and I decided to have an abortion due to an unplanned pregnancy, it's none of your fùcking business.

It is common sense o. There are a lot of ways to prevent unwanted pregnancy, why do you people choose the most dangerous pattern which involved killing another human? Why not just take the birth control provided for free. You can choose the one you prefer, enough options.

As I said, other people's sex lives is none of yours or my business. Yes there are a million ways to prevent an unwanted pregnancy, irrespective, unplanned pregnancy happens. The issue is what happens in a case of unplanned pregnancy that the woman (or couple) doesn't want. Should society force it on the woman as a punishment for sexual immorality?

Abortion is murder. Have you seen abortions where they then sell the head, legs and body of the mutilated baby? How is that not murder?

Why not show me a jurisdiction where abortion is murder.

No I have never seen seen abortions where they then sell the head, legs and body of the mutilated baby. I have never even seen an abortion in my life. While I was in school and my babe came to me with the news that she was pregnant, I simply gave her the money she demanded. She extorted me with pregnancy claims up to three times. I was not even bothered to find out where she did it or if it was even true. All these I am talking about missing period for just 1 week.

You conveniently talk about law, but law saying you cannot kill a baby in uterus that has heart beat is what you have been crying about for long now.

How do you determine when the fetus in the uterus has a heart beat? Some say 6 weeks others say 7 weeks. By 6 weeks some naive girls (Particularly teenage girls) are not even aware they are pregnant. I believe the window should be extended to the end of the first trimester or the beginning of the second. My problem with late term abortions is that it posses lots of complications to the health of the woman and that's when sentiments come in, as the baby is fully formed.

benalvino3:
What do you mean by my body my choice when the life of an baby will be taken?

Could you apply the same my body my choice when you have a baby and decided not to feed the baby or take care of the baby? You will be arrested for child abuse or murder. So why can you be allowed to allow someone assassinate your child in the womb? Because my body my choice?

Well when does it apply and when does it not apply?

As a man, will you be arrested if you don't pay child support? Where is my body my choice?

Does the baby have a right to life? If yes why pay a doctor to kill it in the womb?

I said yes the baby have a right to life because people has been thrown in jail for committing double murder after they kill a pregnant woman.

They have given women all the means to avoid this things they refused to use it because they can do abortion. It's wrong.

You go about shaming people who are against the vaxx. Where is my body my choice? All the vaxx passport and crap policy they put is many ways similar to what you are protesting. My body my choice. Your choice are to use various means of birth control, abort pregnancy before the heart beat of the child, you don't have the choice to kill a baby when the heart starts beating. At least they tried.

You keep conflating issues in order to employ emotional blackmail by equating abortion to murder. Even in Texas which has enacted the strictest laws on abortion, abortion was not put on the same pedestal with murder.

A baby (or a person) can be murdered, a fetus is aborted. A fetus is not a legal person, it acquires the status of a legal person the minutes it leaves its mothers womb and is capable of independent existence.

The choice of carrying a fetus in the womb is the mother's to make. Except there is a procedure to sustain the fetus outside the woman's body immediately after a sperm fertilize an egg, then you will have a point in insisting a fertilized egg must lead to a baby irrespective of the views of the woman.

The double murder example is a red herring. No woman or doctor had ever been charged for murdering a fetus. The double murder was because a woman carrying a baby (fetus) was murdered.

The law you are referring to is Unborn Victims of Violence Act. Here is the Wikipedia link for the law.

However, 38 states also recognize the fetus or "unborn child" as a crime victim, at least for purposes of homicide or feticide.[2]

The legislation was both hailed and vilified by various legal observers who interpreted the measure as a step toward granting legal personhood to human fetuses, even though the bill explicitly contained a provision excepting abortion, stating that the bill would not "be construed to permit the prosecution" "of any person for conduct relating to an abortion for which the consent of the pregnant woman, or a person authorized by law to act on her behalf", "of any person for any medical treatment of the pregnant woman or her unborn child" or "of any woman with respect to her unborn child."
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unborn_Victims_of_Violence_Act

The law specifically excludes abortion. The law even recognizes the rights of a woman to her body, which people like you fail to acknowledge.

byteem:
I smell a rat.. if this story was given by police then it might not be entirely true.. something doesn't add up.. but what do I know.. they tell so much lies even when the speak the truth it's not believed .. no trust.. that's how they paraded a movie guy placed guns on him and called him armed robber.. I

Believe Nigerian Police at your own peril.

The story sounds fabricated.

The armed robbery suspect, Alabi Timothy 'm' aged 23, resident of 9, Baale street, Majek, Ajah, was arrested at about 0030hrs of 4/9/2021 at General Paint, Garden area, Lekki during a routine stop and search by the police.

How do you arrest an armed robber during a routine search? Who did he rob and what evidence do the have that he robbed somebody? Even if guns were found on him (Which can be planted), that does still not equate to robbery. That's illegal possession of weapon.

About the bribery allegation, that is suspicious. Did the suspect bring bribe money without demand from the officer? How did they arrive at the sum of N400,000? I doubt the suspect will just carry N400,000 to the police station without prior discussion with the officer involved.

The police must stop parading suspects with said evidence. It looks staged and stupid ( the picture of the suspect holding a cartridge looks silly). I doubt the pictures or videos can be presented in court as evidence.

benalvino3:
What is sick in common sense? If you don't want babies use contraceptives and if you don't use contraceptives the consequence is pregnancy. It is common sense.

What's common sense in forcing a woman to carry a pregnancy she definitely does not want? What's common sense in forcing a woman to birth a baby she doesn't want? It's her body and she alone bears the consequences of an abortion. She and the baby bares consequences if she birth an unwanted baby. Are you not sick of headlines about babies being dumped in gutter, bush and lagoon that assaults our humanity on a daily basis.
It is sickening to use babies as punishment for the sexual sins of a woman.

Religious nuts as you say care about babies which is why they advocate people don't kill them. If you can't afford to take care of the babies there are places you can take them to and also if you cant take care of babies is why you have to get free contraceptive. Abortion is not birth control. If you don't want to get pregnant then take measures that won't get you pregnant.

Religious nuts care about babies? That's a fallacy. They only care about punishing women for sexual immorality. If the care about babies, they would reach out to women with unwanted pregnancies and adopt them immediately they leave the mother's womb.

Where are places women can take their newly born unwanted babies to? Most women have no idea that such places exist. Can you give us the location or address of such places.

basilico:
Yea. Majority support the right to choose what do with your body.
At least 100 baby lives have been saved because of the new law. This is terrible. The birthing genders are being forced to accept the consequences of not using contraceptives

You see babies as consequences of not using contraceptives? That's sick.

Religious nuts don't care about babies, women (I would rather day they hate women) or even lives, they only care about controlling women sexuality.

Nathan2016:
There is no sane way, you can expel people from your country who you have shared country for the past 50 years plus and expect them to leave their properties and investment. Unless the country is going toward another genocide. It can never happen.

A country can determine how it wants to relate with any other country or National. Uganda expel all Jews and the sky did not fall. Nigeria expelled Ghanaians and nothing happened. You think some of the Jews or Ghanaians expelled did not have any property?

As I said if the reason for agitation for separation is hatred of your neighbouring tribe and go about it with curses and insults, why do you think such tribe will allow you to continue to live on its soil after you achieve your own country?

Genocide how? Two countries say they don't want to have any relation and decided to expel each other's diplomats and citizens and you are screaming genocide? Who will start kill killing who?

No country have any right to do that. They legally acquired those in the country and they are still a citizen of that country.

A country has the sovereign right to determine its foreign policy. If they say they don't want a certain passport holder in their country, nothing anyone else can do. The ownership of properties are not in dispute, it is the right to live and work in a foreign country.

FakeUnity:
That mugu called wirinet doesn't know I've read all his anti-Igbo haterade littered posts even before IPOB became prominent. Hopeless mongols deceiving themselves with 'I don't hate Igbo just IPOB', go and read their 2010-2014 posts on NL and see the buffoons pouring expletives on Igbos.

The cretin think everyone suffer collective amnesia like the generality of dull nigerians who forgot how they suffered under buhari in the 1980s and still went ahead to vote the dumb dullard with zero idea of how to lead a multi-ethnic country.

Do us a favour and quote one explitive, just one explitive I poured on igbos.

You are projecting your negative emotions on others, and so you see everyone hating you when it's you hating everyone instead.

Nathan2016:
I have never supported biafra or am i a member of ipob. I think they are a bunch of vision-less people. In regards to your assertion, separating from a country doesn't mean the people will leave their current location or properties or business. It means they can control their resources and government.

It depends on the reason for separation. If it's because of cultural, economic or political disagreements, the various countries and people will continue to have good relations.

But if the reason is due to hatred of other tribes, cultures and religion, then cordial relationships after separation would be near impossible.

A country has the sovereign right to determine who can enter or live in its country. It can even expel other countries nationals from its territory if they have poor relations.

FakeUnity:
Whether you've visited Igboland or not is not in anyway a reason for anyone East of the Niger to give a flimsy care in the world. You are too sadistic to worth a nickel, so who actually cares?

Hardluck for the innocent Igbo girl who was too blind and had to marry a muslim sadistic pro-dumbohari anti-Biafran lackey. She must bitting her fingers by now. I just pray she doesn't end up sold in parts and pieces for your dirty trado-Islam mallam rituals.

Eyaa. So much hatred, so much cursing, so much darkness. You sound like someone in a depressed state of mind. I you are not suicidal.

FakeUnity:
Richmond500 and wirinet, how una see those kanda wey dey inside cooler

Make una come onitsha make we chop kanda, Abacha and hero beer. Una dey dia dey break palm kernel ontop empty belle.

First of all I don't eat Abacha and Kanda, I sometimes drink beer, but I am a wine person. I love wine especially red wine.

Secondly, Onitsha is not a place I would like to visit, just like I would never visit Borno. Me i no get liver to face terrorists. I prefer intellectual violence than physical violence. I will never go beyond Asaba for now.
I have a cousin working in the East he is based in Asaba, but operates from Enugu. I spoke to him about 1hr ago and he tells me people were afraid to go out yesterday and today because of IPOB's order. So he will be resuming work tomorrow at Enugu.

Thirdly, I love igbo people, and my wife is igbo. I know they have genuine grievances but I hate IPOB and they way they go about their agitations. You can't get any political capital by antagonizing and insulting everybody up and down. Without allies no body can will a political or physical battle. I had always advocated for southern unity to face our real enemy - the northern political oligarchy led by the Fulanis.

FakeUnity:
Did you understand 'peace' when you were killing our brothers and sisters for simply waving flags?

Does 'peace' to you mean- I wave flag, you kill me, my relatives clap for you? Is that your understanding of peace?

So because I were killing your brothers and sisters for simply waving flags, you too must kill your own brothers and sisters for simply defying you stay at home command?
I am trying to wrap my head around IPOB logic.

FakeUnity:
Come talk am for Upper Iweka, we wan check something my brother.

So the only language you guys understand is violence? What makes you different from Taliban?

Cyberterror:
IPOB is saying one thing in the public media but telling its footsoldiers ESN to do another thing in private. Be decieving yourselves. Biafra is a bottomless pit the devil created to keep sucking Igbo blood.

Biafra with IPOB in charge will be another Afghanistan.

We are on the same page save a slight different of perspective on the definition of life.

I was talking about Biological Life , but you made a distinction between biological life and conscious life. (Consciousness) I have no definition of conscious life. Consciousness is a very controversial subject. Some people tie consciousness with life, while others (lots of others) believe consciousness can exist outside biological life.

I don't know about conscious life, but biological life has a very narrow set of conditions to exist. And earth is about the only planet in our solar system with those exact set of conditions. Most likely these set of conditions are also present in other planets in other star systems, but we are yet to see the evidence.

gidado14:
which endsars? court ask to provide the families which thier reletive are kill yet no one came. abeg spear us that propaganda

If na you nko, you go come forward say government kill your pikin? Many families were already complaining of being harassed by security agencies. Some have japa from Nigeria.

Which court asked to provides families that were killed? State judicial tribunals are not courts, they have no powers over any federal officer.

So what has been the outcome of the State judicial tribunals? How many SARS officers have been brought to book or tried for their alleged crimes? Did the tribunal stop the gross human rights abuse of citizens by the Nigerian Police?

Soulsymbol99:
Are the military in the business of debt recovery/arrest nw?

Yes o, as people have completely lost confidence in the police. If they report the matter to the police, they will be asked to pay all sorts of fees before the police acts. At the end they will ask for a percentage of the total money recovered. Besides the sum of N65,000 is too small for the police to get interested in the case.
This should be a case of fraud and not debt recovery.

gidado14:
Na Nigerian police de work for Canada?

No. Canada does not want nigerian police officers, both retired or serving in Canada.

The endsars protests and abba Kyari's case has really dented the Nigerian Police internationally.

lexy2014:
Do understand what u typed?

I don't understand, please help me explain what I typed. Explain what our concerns is with Afghan terrorists and how it relates to the topic at hand.