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benalvino3:
And the law has changed and you people are crying. This is the hypocrisy that you guys like to radiate. There is no nonsense from the left you guys don't support.

Why not give us the details of the law and it's punishments? I have not seen the law butI am certain it does not equate to murder

I asked you a question, if you are a parent, how many children do you have? 3, 4? Is that all the time you have had sex with your wife? If your answer is no, how many times have you guys done abortion? Also, do you take birth control measures to make sure you don't commit abortion at least 12 times a year?

It's none of your business how many children I have, how many times I have sex with my wife and the type of birth control measures we choose to employ. You are not my family or my doctor. You are what we call in these parts of the world a "poke nose".

If my wife and I decided to have an abortion due to an unplanned pregnancy, it's none of your fùcking business.

It is common sense o. There are a lot of ways to prevent unwanted pregnancy, why do you people choose the most dangerous pattern which involved killing another human? Why not just take the birth control provided for free. You can choose the one you prefer, enough options.

As I said, other people's sex lives is none of yours or my business. Yes there are a million ways to prevent an unwanted pregnancy, irrespective, unplanned pregnancy happens. The issue is what happens in a case of unplanned pregnancy that the woman (or couple) doesn't want. Should society force it on the woman as a punishment for sexual immorality?

Abortion is murder. Have you seen abortions where they then sell the head, legs and body of the mutilated baby? How is that not murder?

Why not show me a jurisdiction where abortion is murder.

No I have never seen seen abortions where they then sell the head, legs and body of the mutilated baby. I have never even seen an abortion in my life. While I was in school and my babe came to me with the news that she was pregnant, I simply gave her the money she demanded. She extorted me with pregnancy claims up to three times. I was not even bothered to find out where she did it or if it was even true. All these I am talking about missing period for just 1 week.

You conveniently talk about law, but law saying you cannot kill a baby in uterus that has heart beat is what you have been crying about for long now.

How do you determine when the fetus in the uterus has a heart beat? Some say 6 weeks others say 7 weeks. By 6 weeks some naive girls (Particularly teenage girls) are not even aware they are pregnant. I believe the window should be extended to the end of the first trimester or the beginning of the second. My problem with late term abortions is that it posses lots of complications to the health of the woman and that's when sentiments come in, as the baby is fully formed.

benalvino3:
What do you mean by my body my choice when the life of an baby will be taken?

Could you apply the same my body my choice when you have a baby and decided not to feed the baby or take care of the baby? You will be arrested for child abuse or murder. So why can you be allowed to allow someone assassinate your child in the womb? Because my body my choice?

Well when does it apply and when does it not apply?

As a man, will you be arrested if you don't pay child support? Where is my body my choice?

Does the baby have a right to life? If yes why pay a doctor to kill it in the womb?

I said yes the baby have a right to life because people has been thrown in jail for committing double murder after they kill a pregnant woman.

They have given women all the means to avoid this things they refused to use it because they can do abortion. It's wrong.

You go about shaming people who are against the vaxx. Where is my body my choice? All the vaxx passport and crap policy they put is many ways similar to what you are protesting. My body my choice. Your choice are to use various means of birth control, abort pregnancy before the heart beat of the child, you don't have the choice to kill a baby when the heart starts beating. At least they tried.

You keep conflating issues in order to employ emotional blackmail by equating abortion to murder. Even in Texas which has enacted the strictest laws on abortion, abortion was not put on the same pedestal with murder.

A baby (or a person) can be murdered, a fetus is aborted. A fetus is not a legal person, it acquires the status of a legal person the minutes it leaves its mothers womb and is capable of independent existence.

The choice of carrying a fetus in the womb is the mother's to make. Except there is a procedure to sustain the fetus outside the woman's body immediately after a sperm fertilize an egg, then you will have a point in insisting a fertilized egg must lead to a baby irrespective of the views of the woman.

The double murder example is a red herring. No woman or doctor had ever been charged for murdering a fetus. The double murder was because a woman carrying a baby (fetus) was murdered.

The law you are referring to is Unborn Victims of Violence Act. Here is the Wikipedia link for the law.

However, 38 states also recognize the fetus or "unborn child" as a crime victim, at least for purposes of homicide or feticide.[2]

The legislation was both hailed and vilified by various legal observers who interpreted the measure as a step toward granting legal personhood to human fetuses, even though the bill explicitly contained a provision excepting abortion, stating that the bill would not "be construed to permit the prosecution" "of any person for conduct relating to an abortion for which the consent of the pregnant woman, or a person authorized by law to act on her behalf", "of any person for any medical treatment of the pregnant woman or her unborn child" or "of any woman with respect to her unborn child."
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unborn_Victims_of_Violence_Act

The law specifically excludes abortion. The law even recognizes the rights of a woman to her body, which people like you fail to acknowledge.

byteem:
I smell a rat.. if this story was given by police then it might not be entirely true.. something doesn't add up.. but what do I know.. they tell so much lies even when the speak the truth it's not believed .. no trust.. that's how they paraded a movie guy placed guns on him and called him armed robber.. I

Believe Nigerian Police at your own peril.

The story sounds fabricated.

The armed robbery suspect, Alabi Timothy 'm' aged 23, resident of 9, Baale street, Majek, Ajah, was arrested at about 0030hrs of 4/9/2021 at General Paint, Garden area, Lekki during a routine stop and search by the police.

How do you arrest an armed robber during a routine search? Who did he rob and what evidence do the have that he robbed somebody? Even if guns were found on him (Which can be planted), that does still not equate to robbery. That's illegal possession of weapon.

About the bribery allegation, that is suspicious. Did the suspect bring bribe money without demand from the officer? How did they arrive at the sum of N400,000? I doubt the suspect will just carry N400,000 to the police station without prior discussion with the officer involved.

The police must stop parading suspects with said evidence. It looks staged and stupid ( the picture of the suspect holding a cartridge looks silly). I doubt the pictures or videos can be presented in court as evidence.

benalvino3:
What is sick in common sense? If you don't want babies use contraceptives and if you don't use contraceptives the consequence is pregnancy. It is common sense.

What's common sense in forcing a woman to carry a pregnancy she definitely does not want? What's common sense in forcing a woman to birth a baby she doesn't want? It's her body and she alone bears the consequences of an abortion. She and the baby bares consequences if she birth an unwanted baby. Are you not sick of headlines about babies being dumped in gutter, bush and lagoon that assaults our humanity on a daily basis.
It is sickening to use babies as punishment for the sexual sins of a woman.

Religious nuts as you say care about babies which is why they advocate people don't kill them. If you can't afford to take care of the babies there are places you can take them to and also if you cant take care of babies is why you have to get free contraceptive. Abortion is not birth control. If you don't want to get pregnant then take measures that won't get you pregnant.

Religious nuts care about babies? That's a fallacy. They only care about punishing women for sexual immorality. If the care about babies, they would reach out to women with unwanted pregnancies and adopt them immediately they leave the mother's womb.

Where are places women can take their newly born unwanted babies to? Most women have no idea that such places exist. Can you give us the location or address of such places.

basilico:
Yea. Majority support the right to choose what do with your body.
At least 100 baby lives have been saved because of the new law. This is terrible. The birthing genders are being forced to accept the consequences of not using contraceptives

You see babies as consequences of not using contraceptives? That's sick.

Religious nuts don't care about babies, women (I would rather day they hate women) or even lives, they only care about controlling women sexuality.

Nathan2016:
There is no sane way, you can expel people from your country who you have shared country for the past 50 years plus and expect them to leave their properties and investment. Unless the country is going toward another genocide. It can never happen.

A country can determine how it wants to relate with any other country or National. Uganda expel all Jews and the sky did not fall. Nigeria expelled Ghanaians and nothing happened. You think some of the Jews or Ghanaians expelled did not have any property?

As I said if the reason for agitation for separation is hatred of your neighbouring tribe and go about it with curses and insults, why do you think such tribe will allow you to continue to live on its soil after you achieve your own country?

Genocide how? Two countries say they don't want to have any relation and decided to expel each other's diplomats and citizens and you are screaming genocide? Who will start kill killing who?

No country have any right to do that. They legally acquired those in the country and they are still a citizen of that country.

A country has the sovereign right to determine its foreign policy. If they say they don't want a certain passport holder in their country, nothing anyone else can do. The ownership of properties are not in dispute, it is the right to live and work in a foreign country.

FakeUnity:
That mugu called wirinet doesn't know I've read all his anti-Igbo haterade littered posts even before IPOB became prominent. Hopeless mongols deceiving themselves with 'I don't hate Igbo just IPOB', go and read their 2010-2014 posts on NL and see the buffoons pouring expletives on Igbos.

The cretin think everyone suffer collective amnesia like the generality of dull nigerians who forgot how they suffered under buhari in the 1980s and still went ahead to vote the dumb dullard with zero idea of how to lead a multi-ethnic country.

Do us a favour and quote one explitive, just one explitive I poured on igbos.

You are projecting your negative emotions on others, and so you see everyone hating you when it's you hating everyone instead.

Nathan2016:
I have never supported biafra or am i a member of ipob. I think they are a bunch of vision-less people. In regards to your assertion, separating from a country doesn't mean the people will leave their current location or properties or business. It means they can control their resources and government.

It depends on the reason for separation. If it's because of cultural, economic or political disagreements, the various countries and people will continue to have good relations.

But if the reason is due to hatred of other tribes, cultures and religion, then cordial relationships after separation would be near impossible.

A country has the sovereign right to determine who can enter or live in its country. It can even expel other countries nationals from its territory if they have poor relations.

FakeUnity:
Whether you've visited Igboland or not is not in anyway a reason for anyone East of the Niger to give a flimsy care in the world. You are too sadistic to worth a nickel, so who actually cares?

Hardluck for the innocent Igbo girl who was too blind and had to marry a muslim sadistic pro-dumbohari anti-Biafran lackey. She must bitting her fingers by now. I just pray she doesn't end up sold in parts and pieces for your dirty trado-Islam mallam rituals.

Eyaa. So much hatred, so much cursing, so much darkness. You sound like someone in a depressed state of mind. I you are not suicidal.

FakeUnity:
Richmond500 and wirinet, how una see those kanda wey dey inside cooler

Make una come onitsha make we chop kanda, Abacha and hero beer. Una dey dia dey break palm kernel ontop empty belle.

First of all I don't eat Abacha and Kanda, I sometimes drink beer, but I am a wine person. I love wine especially red wine.

Secondly, Onitsha is not a place I would like to visit, just like I would never visit Borno. Me i no get liver to face terrorists. I prefer intellectual violence than physical violence. I will never go beyond Asaba for now.
I have a cousin working in the East he is based in Asaba, but operates from Enugu. I spoke to him about 1hr ago and he tells me people were afraid to go out yesterday and today because of IPOB's order. So he will be resuming work tomorrow at Enugu.

Thirdly, I love igbo people, and my wife is igbo. I know they have genuine grievances but I hate IPOB and they way they go about their agitations. You can't get any political capital by antagonizing and insulting everybody up and down. Without allies no body can will a political or physical battle. I had always advocated for southern unity to face our real enemy - the northern political oligarchy led by the Fulanis.

FakeUnity:
Did you understand 'peace' when you were killing our brothers and sisters for simply waving flags?

Does 'peace' to you mean- I wave flag, you kill me, my relatives clap for you? Is that your understanding of peace?

So because I were killing your brothers and sisters for simply waving flags, you too must kill your own brothers and sisters for simply defying you stay at home command?
I am trying to wrap my head around IPOB logic.

FakeUnity:
Come talk am for Upper Iweka, we wan check something my brother.

So the only language you guys understand is violence? What makes you different from Taliban?

Cyberterror:
IPOB is saying one thing in the public media but telling its footsoldiers ESN to do another thing in private. Be decieving yourselves. Biafra is a bottomless pit the devil created to keep sucking Igbo blood.

Biafra with IPOB in charge will be another Afghanistan.

We are on the same page save a slight different of perspective on the definition of life.

I was talking about Biological Life , but you made a distinction between biological life and conscious life. (Consciousness) I have no definition of conscious life. Consciousness is a very controversial subject. Some people tie consciousness with life, while others (lots of others) believe consciousness can exist outside biological life.

I don't know about conscious life, but biological life has a very narrow set of conditions to exist. And earth is about the only planet in our solar system with those exact set of conditions. Most likely these set of conditions are also present in other planets in other star systems, but we are yet to see the evidence.

gidado14:
which endsars? court ask to provide the families which thier reletive are kill yet no one came. abeg spear us that propaganda

If na you nko, you go come forward say government kill your pikin? Many families were already complaining of being harassed by security agencies. Some have japa from Nigeria.

Which court asked to provides families that were killed? State judicial tribunals are not courts, they have no powers over any federal officer.

So what has been the outcome of the State judicial tribunals? How many SARS officers have been brought to book or tried for their alleged crimes? Did the tribunal stop the gross human rights abuse of citizens by the Nigerian Police?

Soulsymbol99:
Are the military in the business of debt recovery/arrest nw?

Yes o, as people have completely lost confidence in the police. If they report the matter to the police, they will be asked to pay all sorts of fees before the police acts. At the end they will ask for a percentage of the total money recovered. Besides the sum of N65,000 is too small for the police to get interested in the case.
This should be a case of fraud and not debt recovery.

gidado14:
Na Nigerian police de work for Canada?

No. Canada does not want nigerian police officers, both retired or serving in Canada.

The endsars protests and abba Kyari's case has really dented the Nigerian Police internationally.

lexy2014:
Do understand what u typed?

I don't understand, please help me explain what I typed. Explain what our concerns is with Afghan terrorists and how it relates to the topic at hand.

basilico:
Ok thank you. Thou shalt be vindicated When the cheating avenues are laid bare, it shall be an uphill battle to cheat. Everyone wants most secure elections I presume.

When will that be and by whom? Who will lay the cheating avenues bare and who can act on it? It certainly has to be an organ of government and not a private partisan organization. When all organs of government asserts that it was a free and fair election including the justice department. Who else can take action in election matters?

You need to get Trump to hire you as his lawyer, as all the other lawyers have not been able to lay cheating avenues bare and they are all facing professional misconduct charges. Maybe you can do a better job.

lexy2014:
Inasmuch as I totally agree and rejoice at this ruling, I hope they can apply d same ruling with regards afghans who are terrorists by reason of their citizenship

Watin concern us with Afghans? Dem even know day a country like Nigeria dey exist for this world?

chukwuibuipob:
u can still find good/nice ones among the remaining 20%

I had a recent brush with the Nigerian Police ( okada driving one-way hit and damaged my car). The polics used the incident to extort me endlessly until I contacted a lawyer and went to court to enforce my rights. Its was a traumatic and expensive experience. I contacted all the police officers I knew - both senior and junior, and they told me that is how the police functions.

musty2245:
Some people go just sit down dae dig out bad bad news about Nigeria, na God go punish una one by one

When there is no good news nko? Or should the press manufacture good news?

contigiency:
Still, they have worse uniform men than Nigeria. Is it because we keep thinking that these white folks are better in everything that's why they keep seeing themselves as angels even the areas they depict devil and his incarnates.

False whataboutism. Canadian policemen are far far better than Nigerian Police. A distress call to the Canadian police will elicit a response within 15 minutes. A distress call to Nigerian Police will lead to extortion if they will respond at all.

chukwuibuipob:
Very correct.80%of them are worthless pipu/blood sucker

80%? Where with you find worthful officers in the Nigerian Police Force?
It's being run like a criminal organization that is not responsible to the citizens but only to politicians.

SarkinYarki:
But they allow ISIS fighters

Are ISIS fighters seeking asylum in Canada?

Goodvibes007:
Imagine creating a website to claim fraud even before the recall votes and counts. That's the modern day GQP.

That's the new normal with the Republicans. Any election they lose from now on must be rigged. Only elections won by Republicans will be legitimate.

basilico:
I understand you to mean that if you believe Joe Biden was rigged in, you must be in a cult.

Conversely if you believe Joe Biden won, you must also be in a cult.

There is no if you believe Joe Biden won. It is a fact and not a belief that Biden won the elections. He was ratified by all relevant executive, legislative and judicial organs of the United States.
The ones that need to believe in a fairy tale or fantasy that Trump won the elections are Trump cult worshippers.

joyousever:
Loooool As in eh .. I just tire for this unnecessary defence mechanism cun damage control oooo. .. And I just weak for the company that endorsed her! This is a pointer to the fact that some Nigerians relegate morality to the background!!! F

Imagine the stupid excuse. She must think Nigerians are stupid.
Sinus my foot. She wants us to believe that big brother admitted someone with sinusitis into the big brother house during a covid pandemic. It means big brother was unable to detect the infection during the rigorous medical examinations they put the housemates through before admitting them into the big brother house. That's putting the health of 25 other housemates at risk.
And to think Boma French kissed at least 3 other girls in the house.

joyousever:
Tega leave damage control!! I watched the video and I saw Boma's hand busy in your midsection and you were also busy moaning hard!! He looked up at your face to check your facial expression and he beamed a wide smile!!! You both claimed you didn't smash, you were acting a script,then what was Boma cleaning with the tissue by his bedside And why did you tell him at the dining table that he could then behave normal (because of the sex) and he responded by saying that he could go five more times Abeg, shift one side!!

Their lies keeps changing per second per second.

I am sure her publicity team sat with her and watched the videos released by big brother and then fashion out the best lie for each scene. This is called extreme Gaslighting. Boma has sinus not on his nasal cavity but on his scrotum, because he used the tissue down under and not any where near his head. Besides, not once during the big brother show did we see Boma blow his nose. He has sinus and catarrh and you were always French kissing him. He has sinus and no other girl Boma kissed and slept with in the house noticed.

You and Boma did not have sex, he did not finger you, you were only acting out a script (I don't know who wrote the script), but you two have been apologising up and down. So what exactly are you two apologising for?

Tega and his media team need to go back to the drawing board and come up with a better lie.

Tiiitoo:
Hahahaha...I find this comment quite hilarious, that's not the point though, the point is true fiscal federalism. If the North had acceded to earlier calls to produce a workable country, I think these problems will be sorted bits by bits.

Enuf of the grandstanding and let's produce a workable union.

Don't mind the religious fundamentalist. He wants to come to Sapele and tell me not to drink Sapele water because his God in Kano will be angry with him. Meanwhile I need Sapele water to appease my God.

mu2sa2:
Why are you guys obsessed with alcohol. God didnt didn't command you guys to be drinking alcohol, something y'all know is detrimental to health.

What is your business with what God command me to drink or not drink? If your God commands you not to drink alcohol but to drink codeine, that's your business and not mine. You have no right to tell me what to drink or not drink. It's my health and not your health.

Bacteriologist:
"Life as we know it" refers to Carbon based life. Life based on other elements might theoretically exist but we haven't found them, or know how to look for them.

So when we say we cannot find Life on a planet, we refer to carbon-based life, which is the one we know and can test for.

It's called basic science, rather than "shifting of goal posts."

And how really sensible of you to conclude that scientists sit on their bed and make conclusions about other planets. It not only sounds like something someone who has zero knowledge about how science works would say, it's also very rich coming from someone who believes what goat herders wrote in a middle aged adulterated book about the earth and the universe at a time where space exploration was practically impossible.

Maybe you should take your own advice, and stop believing in things that came from the least qualified people.

You get time to dey answer him. He as zero knowledge of science or what science means.
He first talked about neighbouring planets when we tried to educate him that life in any of our neighbouring planets is almost impossible, he then sifted goal post to planets in the entire universe..

On referring to carbon based life, it almost certain that life cannot be based on any other element outside carbon. Why? Because carbon is the only element capable of forming infinite covalent bonds with other elements. It has the maximum covalency of 4. The only other element that comes close is silicon. And if life could be based on silicon, we would have seen evidence here on earth as silicon is far more abundant on earth than carbon.

Remember biological life is a system of self duplicating molecules.