₦airaland Forum

Ojiofor:
And you think Zik didn't have what it takes to know whether Sarduana was lying or not?
You think the decision with whom to form a coalition government was made in a day?
Awo was also angling to become VP to Sarduana and only sent delegates to the East to deceive Zik and Zik didn't fall to it according to this report.

Why advertise your ignorance openly on nairaland? A V.P in a parliamentary system of government?
First of all Sardauna was not vying for any elective post. He was simply the head of the party. Then the party that won the elections or that was the majority in a coalition government was to produce the prime minister, and other posts in the cabinet (ministers) would be shared according to negotiations. In the negotiation between Zik and Sardauna, NPC produced the prime minister and NCNC produced the president (ceremonial ) and finance Minister.

Ovamboland:
What if Sardauna was second guessing Zik who naively fell for the trap. Is this worth throwing away executive powers away for a ceremonial post?

Check am now.

Who will throw away opportunity to be president in Nigeria today to settle for VP or Senate president?

It seems the system was heavily rigged in favour of the North. The NPC with less than one forth of total votes got more than one third of the seats. While the NCNC that almost got 40% of total votes got less than one forth the total seats. If this system had continued the north will always have the upper hand in elections.

I wonder why Awolowo and Zik agreed to such a skewed type of democracy that greatly favoured the north.

Ojiofor:
The event did not happen in 2019 or did it?

When then did it happen and who reported it?

Ojiofor:
Did Awolowo deny it?
If he did I will like to read about it.

I honestly think more highly of Igbos than you guys are displaying here. Most Igbos I interact with in person are usually very intelligent and cerebral but these online ones are display such low deductive capacity.

Awo deny what? Maybe you need to go to Ikenne and wake up Awo to ask him, then he might deny or confirm it.

A sourceless story written by one fictitious Babalola Akinnuoye writes from Ibadan, Western Nigeria, written on a blog in Jul 17, 2019, and you want Awo to deny it.

OK, Awo Backstabbed Zik making all Yorubas backstabbers. Infact everyone that had ever interacted with igbos have one way or the other backstabbed them. Igbos are the only frontstabbers in the whole of Nigeria and the whole of Africa.. Are you happy now?

basilico:
I have posted link quoting the mrna inventor who would know better than Faucci about long term effects . We don't know what will happen, neither has Ben said with certainty what will happen in 2-5 years.

So what did the mrna inventor conclude about the coronavirus vaccine? I did not read where he specifically said the virus will kill people in 2 - 5 years. If you don't know what will happen, how then did you reach your conclusion of 2 - 5 years?

IThe vaccines injects the virus in your body znd your body produces antibodies . Quantity of antibodies produced , I think might be the ones causing deaths.

That has been the very definition of vaccination since its discovery over a century ago. We have been taking vaccines for rabies, smallpox, chickenpox, measles, polio and a host of other viral diseases for a century employing the same mechanism, and we have not be falling down and dying.

https://greatreject.org/corona-vaccine-deaths-overview/

Did you look at the dates on your link? It seems you just rush to Google and post links without even bothering to read it. The link itself is dated 18/01/2021 and all the articles are dated from October last year to February this year. Meanwhile the vaccine was approved by most countries late last year and was deployed to the general populsation starting this year.

basilico:
As of today more people have died during trials than all other vaccines combined.



https://news.yahoo.com/single-most-qualified-mrna-expert-173600060.html

So this is the Google link that proves that the vaccines kills people in 2 - 5 years?

This is the so called proof that claims the vaccine kills people;

"A Norwegian study conducted of 100 nursing home residents who died after receiving Pfizer's corona shots. They found that at least 10 of those deaths were likely caused by the vaccine. 10%," Carlson said.

The claim is senseless and does not even concluded anything. It says out of 100 nursing home deaths, 10 were likely caused by the vaccine. And your conclusion is that vaccines caused their deaths. Is that how medical trials are conducted?

The whole article is just rants without really saying anything.

Please explain how the article lead to your conclusion that as of today more people have died during trials than all other vaccines combined. I don't even understand what you mean.

benalvino3:
You simply have no clue of what we are talking about.

Please explain what you are talking about. Because what I understand from your claims is that coronavirus vaccines is certain to kill all who took it in 2 to 5 years.

For you information, I have taken the first dose of the Astrazeneca vaccine and will take the second dose in about 4 weeks. So I should start counting my days left on this earth.

basilico:
The vaccine is an Emergency Use Authorization.
The inventor of mRNA vax..
use Google to find out what his thoughts are.

And the vaccine has been proven to kill people in 2 to 5 years?

Why is it difficult to give us the link as you are more proficient in the use of Google than I

benalvino3:
You take the vaccine and died 2 to 5 years later or you don't take the vac and risk catching covid. You can't blame either side.

You take the vaccine and died 2 to 5 years later when the Vaccine is only out for about 6 months? Which data proved that people died 2 to 5 years after taking the Vaccine?

You mean to tell me that billions of people that had taken the Vaccine or will take the Vaccine will be dead in 2 to 5 years time? That means in about 5 years less than 20 percent of the world population who refused or are unable to take the Vaccine would be alive.

Since Trump, Ivanka and Family along with Joe Biden and Family all took the vaccine, they will all be dead in less than 5 years.

Man you really need psychological evaluation.

Ojiofor:
We have Read from Lagos/Ibadan express way propaganda media,now let us read from an unbiased account from the other side.


The second account reflects the inability of Dr. Azikiwe and Chief Awolowo to reach a common ground at the critical moment so that one of them would become Prime Minister instead of Alhaji Balewa. Azikiwe had been blamed particularly by loyalists of Awolowo for preferring to align with NPC rather than with the AG. In my opinion, that is partially correct, which is probably an unfortunate outcome of the disappointment felt by NCNC leaders as a result of the carpet crossing episode of 1952. However, Chief Mbazulike Amaechi, a diehard supporter of Dr. Azikiwe, presented a different perspective on the issue about eight years ago.
According to Chief Amaechi, after the 1959 election when it became obvious that a coalition government must be formed to take over from the departing British colonialists, a delegation from the AG went to discuss the matter with NCNC leaders in Azikiwe’s Onitsha residence. It proposed that both parties should form an alliance such that Azikiwe would become Prime Minister while Awolowo would serve as the finance minister. While the discussion was on, Azikiwe went upstairs to answer a telephone call. Upon his return, Azikiwe told the AG delegation that the NCNC would consider AG’s proposal and send a delegation back to Chief Awolowo.

When the AG delegation left, Dr. Azikiwe informed the NCNC leaders present that the telephone call he went to answer was from the Sardauna of Sokoto and that the Sardauna had informed him of a delegation from Chief Awolowo which visited him offering NPC precisely what the other delegation that just left them offered their own party, the NCNC. Probably concluding that AG is a double-headed snake, Dr. Azikiwe decided to negotiate with the Sardauna.

During the negotiation, Ahmadu Bello insisted that the north should produce the Prime Minister, otherwise they were not ready for independence. In the agreement to end British colonial rule signed at Lancaster House, it was agreed that if any region said it was not ready for independence, the process will be postponed until all regions were willing to go ahead. According to Chief Amaechi, northern leaders took advantage of that agreement. Dr. Azikiwe and top leaders of the NCNC reasoned that having fought and sacrificed so much for political freedom, it was preferable to allow the north produce the first Prime Minister so that independence would be attained as soon as possible.
Read more at: https://www.vanguardngr.com/2018/08/the-problem-of-retrogressive-politics-in-nigeria-4/
cc:Iampatriotic

Zik and NCNC leadership was dealing with a double headed snake and a chameleon.

Let's assume that the quote in red is true. How do we know that the Sardauna did not outfox Zik? What other third party confirmed that Awo actually sent a delegation to Sokoto at the same time he sent a delegation to Onitsha? Remember a trip to Sokoto then would have taken many days is not up to a week. Why didn't Zik confirm the story told by Sarduana before abandoning Awo and dashing NPC (a party that came a distant third in the elections) the prime minister and then accepting to be a ceremonial head?

Another mystery is that if Awo actually offered to give the north prime minister position and accept finance minister, why did the Sarduana not accept but accepted Ziks offer instead?

Why did Zik refuse Awo's offer of prime Minister and accepted Sardauna's offer of ceremonial president instead?

So this story is the basis of the distrust of Igbos of Yorubas in general. It seems the north are master's of political strategy.

LebenNG:
whats the difference between six and half a dozen... if you truly love aomeone you stick to them no matter what, igboho would not have been seen, heard and cheered... stop sugar coating.

I honestly don't understand what you wrote up there. Igboho never went on a hate spree on Igbos the way Kanu did to Yorubas and all other tribes. Kanu and his IPOB members even went after igbos who have a different opinion.

I have never seen anywhere where the reason for secession agitation is hatred of your neighbours.

In the security circle, a person whose name is on the stop-list is denied all constitutional rights and privileges a citizen is entitled to.

This is scary. You mean that in Nigeria a person can be denied all constitutional rights and privileges as a citizen?

LebenNG:
Actually its not hate because yorubas too are canvassing for secession can you now say its hate for igbos and hausas... besides what the heck are you scared about?

Yoruba secessionists never based their reasons for wanting to leave Nigeria on hatred for igbos or even Hausa - Fulanis. Their main reason is on the lack of will or ability of Nigeria to protect Yoruba land from marauding Fulani herdsmen and bandits, and the northernization of the Nigerian civil service, security architecture and Political offices.

LebenNG:
Biafra materialising should be igbo concerns irrespective of whatever... i don't see how its headache to you non-stakeholders.

Biafra materialising should be igbo concerns irrespective of whatever, but you cannot mention Biafra without mentioning Yoruba, Hausa, Fulani, NigerDelta, etc. Your biafra agitation is predicated on hate - hatred of Yorubas, Fulanis, Buhari, Islam, etc and not out of love of fellow igbos or love for the land.

Sureguy4life:
Bet9ja disabled my account without any reason.

I recently opened bet9ja account.

Funded the account consecutively but have not gotten a sure game to play so I withdrew the money to my bank account.

This happened 3 times.

And on the fourth one when I withdrew the money I received a message that my withdrawal has been placed successfully. This time the money is 12k

But after, that day I didn't receive the money so I tried logging in again and I saw that my account has been disabled.

I contacted their support team and they request for my identity and means of deposit.
I sent everything then they said it'll be up to 3 days before they can resolve everything.

On the third day I messaged them and they replied that the account has been disabled permanently.

Then I asked about my last withdrawal and they kept mute and no longer reply my messages.

I just need my 12k if they are disabling the account they can carry on, though I planed to play game but not when I have urgent need I'll go and play games with my money.


Also I have read their terms of service and couldn't see anyhow I violated it. Even if I violate my capital should not be forfeited to them.


Please if you can assist me on what to do to let bet9ja pay me my money I'll be glad.

If they are worried because I have not been playing games then, but they never gave me any warning messages.

You opened a betting account, funded it and withdraw the money without staking, 4 times. And you are expecting your account not to be closed permanently?

To get that money you will need to explain both to the regulators and EFCC why you keep funding a betting account and withdrawing the money. That particular violation is stated in their terms and conditions.

EmmanuelScott1:
Just STFU, nah only igbos dey do juju?

Where did I claim that nah only igbos dey do juju? I am only refuting the claim that igbos don't kill other igbos.

Lifestone:
You guys better face reality and solve this problem. Igbo killing Igbo is no gain to the Igbos

Tell that to igbo kidnappers killing fellow igbos for ransom

Tell that to igbos using other igbos for money ritual.

Tell that to Kanu and Nwazurike who are at each other's throat, then add Asari Dokubo to the mix.

Tell that to IPOB or unknown gunmen who kill igbos and non igbos alike.

BlueSprint:
Igbos killing igbos.What a shame

Low level civil war has already started even without biafra being realized. I wonder what then would happen when or if Biafra actually becomes an independent (igbo only) state.

hammerDK:
EVEN IF IGBO ARE NOT JEWS, WE WILL ALL HAPPILY STILL CONVERT TO JEWS.



AFONJA AND ABOKI, GO AND DIE.

Are you the one that will convert ALL igbos to Judaism? Is that the agenda of IPOB?

I am sure there are more mosques in igboland than synagogues.

Thomist:
The question is "What crime did they commit?" because they associated with the Igbos who seek a better nation. Some may think the arrest is because of IPOB, it's simply a fight against the Jews. Jewish present in Nigeria is a blow to the Islamic North. They hate the idea of recognising Igbo as Jews.

If they were arrested wrongly, they should take the government to court for wrongful arrest. The government also is required to charge the arrested Jews to court to present their accusations and evidence. That's how it's supposed to work.

Hyperchi:
why not advice DSS to kill them. so u can be treated like ur fellow Arabs. them go give u bomb like birthday gift.
be4 UN go resolved the issue dem done damage ur Ass. pls make the mistake

UN resolve with issue. It seems you guys have no idea why UN was set up in the first place. It was definitely not to resolve issues between arrested individuals and states.

aikyg:
This is a misleading assumption. It is not in the statement issued by the said families. It is just the news writers opinion.

Can you then link us to the statement issued by the families, so we can know who is making assumptions.

limeta:
People making comments about what they know nothing of .
Some people here think this Jewish thing started yesterday, some thing that ve always been there .
Coming to think of it can't you see how igbos are so different from you .

How are igbos different from the regular Niger-Congo family group? If the Jewish thing did not start today, when did it start?

The Jews have confirmed that igbos have no genetic, cultural or linguistic relationship with the them, yet you guys will not let off your forced association with them. You think adopting the Jewish religion makes to an real Jew? It's just like saying adopting Islam gives you right to claim Arab descent.

Chibuking1402:
Whatever you said...one thing is certain...gayism and lesbianism is a sin against God... that's a sin that destroyed Sodom and gomorrah.. you can relocate to where this is permissible instead of calling me names here please...bye

gayism and lesbianism is a sin against your God. It might not be a sin against my God. I might not even have a God, so why should you force others to follow your God. There have been thousands of Gods since the beginning of human history and all adherents claim their own God is the Supreme and most powerful God.
The God your conqueror bequeathed to you (jesus/YHWH if you are a Christian or Allah if you are a muslim) is only one of thousands of others that reigned at various times throughout human history.

Chibuking1402:
Oga Google up the definition of sex...sex doesn't just mean only perniteration, kissing, handling are actions of sex so since they ingaged in it, they are complicit, the law will take it's effect,the evidence is undeniable

Since you are expert in Google, why not help us Google the definition of sex that means something else other than penetration, kissing and fondlíng.

Since this issue happened over 2 years ago, has the law taken its effect yet? Since the law of criminalization of gays was passed over 6 years ago, how many people have actually been found guilty and sent to 14 years imprisonment, unless you want to tell us that there are no more gays or lesbians in Nigeria.

Very primitive and backwards mentality. We have serious problems of corruption, insurgency, very poor infrastructure, poor education, hyper inflation, poverty and so on, but what is taking the mental and physical energy of some people is sex. I wonder if you guys think of anythink else.
Oya, why not criminalize adultery, fornication, masturbatiøn, prostitution, anal sex, Mouth Action and all other forms of sex except missionary sex by married couples?
Holier than thou hypocrites.

benalvino2:
Lmao. All this because I said a kid look like his dad

Are you done?

I am trying to understand your thought process. Are you saying Barron looks like his dad but Hunter does not? Are you also saying that the kid looks like his dad at that age or now.

If you understand the way DNA works, kids change appearance all the time. They may look more like the father at one age and start looking like the mother or other family members at another age.

Then what's the essence of the Hunter Biden's photo smoking a cigarette in a bathroom? Does that connote some sort of moral sin? Is that the response to Ibime posting a nude picture of Melania?

benalvino2:
Noo. The president does not have to do that. What if the governor is unlawfully oppressing its citizens?

In a true Federation, the president should inform and and in fact seek permission from the governor as the chief security officer of his state, before deploying the country's armed forces, except in extreme circumstances.
If the governor is unlawfully oppressing his people, there are other branches of government to deal with the situation - the state's legislature and the judiciary. The president can also be oppressing the people.

Ahh, na wao. So the president needs permission from governors to declear insurrection act?

No. But was the insurrection act declared?

benalvino2:
Tundra and F150 corresponds with Jill and Melania respectively the F150 even with smaller engine is better than the tundra. It's better in every way compared to the tundra.

That you prefer the F150 to the Tundra is your personal opinion. Someone like Scotty practically worships Toyota cars and thinks they are the best cars in the world.

I guess you are insinuating that Melania (which you compare to an F150) is better in every way In comparism to Jill ( a Tundra). Can you please expanciate with details ie, natural beauty, academic success, career success, intelligence, etc.

Well, you guys make stupid comparison for the fun of it. Not you in particular but I don't see you cry when the folks on your side do it. You like and share.

But you are the one that made the comparism of F150 and Tundra.

I hardly mention trump here so me stating the facts triggers you then my post did its job. Barron is 50% trump 50% Melania, You can see his dad's face, height etc. In the kid.

And so? You are only stating the obvious. My wife looks almost like her dad, while I am almost a carbon copy of my mum save the difference in sex. I don't see your point except Idolising Trump.

Hunter is the last son and barron is also the last son so let's leave it like this.

And so? What's the point of comparing two people of different generations? Is there supposed to be some special genetic properties of last sons?

I did not insinuate anything. I had to pick one to compare and I did just that.

But you are insinuating that Melania (F150) is better in every way than Jill (a Tundra).

benalvino2:
When you compare Jill to melania, it's like you are comparing Toyota Tundra to the Ford f150. The Tundra may be more expensive and running on a V8 engine compared to the F150 running on a V6 but the F150 performance is something the tundra can only wish for.

Trump's 50% contribution of his DNA in barron trump is showing. Compare this kid to hunter you see a spoilt old man who exchange disturbing stuff with his niece and the other a young kid who may be the president of the United States just so haters will cry

I never believed a fully grown man can revere another mortal so much. Someone who doesn't ever like his race or country. This goes beyond sanity.

Why compare Hunter with Barron, why not with Eric or Don junior? Or are you saying other Trump children did not inherit the divine genes from Trump? Maybe you are insinuating that the other Trump wives played away matches and Trump is not the father of his other children.

Then what is it about Barron's genes that is perfect and better than Hunter's? Drug addiction is not genetic but acquired? So is it looks, intelligence, physical health - What exactly? Remember Trump's eldest brother was an alcoholic and commited suicide.
I really don't get your Tundra and Ford F150 analogy. Who is Tundra and who is Ford F150?

Omanze:
I have liked your comments here.

What I like is the fact you don't sound gay yourself, you are more a human rights activist. So am I.

I am not necessarily a human rights activist, I am more of a believer of live and let live. I hate it when others forcefully impose their moral, religious or political views on others.

But, you should agree that we Africans needs to be free from too much copying from the white people who already have lost morality and cultural background.

We have no choice. We have already been subsumed by European culture. We speak European languages, we wear European clothes, we bear European names, we worship European Gods. So we cannot escape European culture. Having said that homosexualism is not necessarily European culture. For most of recorded history, homosexualism was a taboo in Europe and they were persecuted, just like we are doing now. It only became accepted or tolerated within the last few decades. It might take a few more decades or even centuries before we learn that gayism is a fact of life.

Our cultural heritage (devoid of fetishness and diabolism) needs your activism more. That is whom you are.

Now, if you consider the African cultural heritage activism with the gayish position you defend, both will not stand compatible.

Studies show that homosexualism was a part of Africa's past. Though hidden it was always there.

That is the essence of my insistence that we should be Natural and live as same.

As I said, you are not in a position to insist on how others should live their life.

Let me end by telling you that human culture is dynamic and ever evolving. At one time human sacrifices to please the gods were the norm, now that is hardly practice except in some backward African societies. Same with marriage of minor girls and marriage between close family members.