₦airaland Forum

benalvino2:
Who are those misbehaving?
By your own standards did he mention Igbos?

Look, I don't like the guy. I hate the tweet even but tweeter claiming it violated their terms is a lie. If it does tell me where in his statement it violated their terms.

"Those of us in the fields for 30 months, who went through the war, will treat them in the language they understand" This is a direct threat to a segment of the Nigerian society. These people felt threatened and reported the tweet to Twitter.

This tweet is also insensitive, as the slogan after the war was "No victor, no vanquished" Buhari is telling us that he is a victor and they are the vanquished.

benalvino2:
We have holocaust memorials, we have ww2 and other memorials. Are they calls for genocide?

We also have Nigerian National War Museum in Umuahia, so I don't understand the point you are making.

He said those causing problems. So he is not reminding the Igbos but those causing problems. Killings and burning down of buildings. Those who are dragging the country to a civil war

He never mentioned those causing problems or killing and burning down buildings. He said those that misbehave would be reminded on how they on the field dealt with their fathers during the civil war.

There is a legal process of dealing with people killing and burning down buildings and genocide is not one of them.

infohenry:
Yes but most be technical courses, they are majorly used as middle man power in oil gas and industry. Many today in Shell, Total, Agios and Mobile as operators are OND holders in electrical, mechanical and instrumentation. Tailor your search towards the oil and gas industry. Wish all the best.

Oil and Gas industry kwa? How many people can the oil industry employ? What's the total number of people out of the millions of unemployed degree holders are employed by Shell, Total, Agip and Mobil. Maybe you are talking about tanker drivers and petrol station attendants.
The oil industry is one of the least labour intensive industries in the world. It requires more specialized equipment than physical human labour. Solar energy employs far more labour than the oil industry.

Where is the job? There are thousands of Master degree holders searching for job and you are talking about OND holder.

The new maxim is to create job for yourself and others. If with your OND, HND, BSC or MSC certificate you cannot create job for yourself, then the certificate is not worth the paper it is written in.

benalvino2:
Buhari use Twitter to get to become the president does not mean Twitter will start undermining and intruding in our politics without consequences.

Twitter helps people reach out to customer and promote their business... But all this things come with a strangle hold especially when we have a monopoly. There are other platforms and people should diversify their reach.

Buhari's speech was not hate speech. Please show me in the photo below where the hate speech is.

Don't get me wrong. I don't want the platform to be banned. People can use VPN like me. It will not really affect anyone but I am saying Twitter should be checked.

You mean reminding the igbos of the Genocide carried out during the civil war and promising to repeat same is no hate speech?

Why not substitute the Nigerian civil war with WW2, and a German councillor reminding Jews of the Genocide the suffered and threatening to repeat it. See whether it would be termed love speech.

budaatum:
Israel's drumptf dusts off the drumptf playbook!
https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2021/jun/06/netanyahu-says-israeli-coalition-is-result-of-election-fraud

Believe me, in the years to come many other incumbents would use the Trump playbook to remain in power after losing elections. They would claim that the elections were rigged even though the election Commissions, legislature and courts have verified the elections. They would simply refuse to leave.

Igboid:
So how did NIGERIA finally return to civilian rule?
Didn't OBJ willingly return power to civilians? What happened to your made up rule of military not handing over power to civilians or you just make these things up as you go?
Even Abacha was planning to transition himself into a civilian ruler before his death.

OBJ willingly or should I say ran from power simply because he was not part of the coup that brought the government in power. The people that toppled Gowon were Murtala, Danjuma, Yaradua, Dimka, Bisalla. Murtala, Bisalla and Dimka had been eliminated. There was no way OBJ would have remained in office beyond 1978. Remember Gowon was removed because he kept postponing handing over. Dimka and Bisalla were implicated in the attempted coup that killed Murtala.
It was so unusual for military to willingly leave power that OBJ was celebrated for that feat. Till today he remained the only military Head of state to willingly relinquish power.

But the same OBJ reluctantly relinquish power when he had actual power during his civilian administration. If not of serious opposition from both home and abroad, OBJ would probably be doing a 7th term by now.

It's the wish of every miliary ruler to Transit to civilian ruler at a point because they are always scared of the endless circle of military coups that could topple or even take their lives.

Either way, the world powers frown at military dictatorship and would at a point forced them to hand over to civilians.

Most military leaders transmute to civilian leaders for reasons you already stated. Most Arab leaders take that route. The worse is that they impose their sons after they die.

There is little world leaders can do outside sanctions and probably support another coup or insurrection. They would not send their soldiers to remove a military dictator.

What do you mean by saying that Aburi would not work because the military big boys would fight each other? Didn't they fight each other even in the dysfunctional 12 state structure? How many coups did NIGERIA have before 1999? How did Murtala Mohammed die?

Exactly my point. The Aburi accord that imposes military leaders would still result in coups and power play among senior military officers. So Aburi would not have changed anything.

Igboid:
Every miliary ruler knows civilian rule would return one day. Many even try to Transit from military to civilian rulers.
What we know for certain is that for regionalism to work, you need the regions intact. Everything else would follow.

Aburi Accord would have ensured the regions remained intact until the return of civilian rule, no matter how long it took.

That's the point.

This is just a manta you keep repeating to yourself everyday to make yourself feel good. Aburi would never have worked. The military big boys would have still fought each other to a stand still bringing the while county down with it. Gowon, Ojukwu, Murtala and Danjuma would never have agreed to take orders from any other officer.

Where have you ever seen military rulers relinquish power willingly to civilians? Once military gets to power they never leave except through coup, assassination, Revolution or civil war.

gidgiddy:
Look, nobody is arguing that military rule suspended the 1963 constitution, there is no way military rule can operate on a constitution designed for democratic rule. The arguement is if Ironsi abolished the 4 Regions he met when he came in? He did not. All 4 Regions existed throughout Ironsi's rule and several months after he died. It was Gowon that used Decree 14 to abolish the 4 Regions, and replace them with 12 states.

Aburi came about a year after military rule was in place, it did not impose military leaders. However, Aburi gave the 4 Regions confederation status by allowing them to have their own Regional military. Do you know what sort power that is? To have your own military as a Region? I doubt if you even begin to understand that sort of autonomy.

Oba Akenzua and the other 3 Regions rejected Aburi, and what did they get?

The 4 Regions were abolished by Gowon, 12 states were created, resource control was abolished transferred to the centre and the revenue sharing formular agreed at independence was scrapped

In other words, the centre became too strong, the Regions were cut up into 12 weak unitary states. How could Oba Akenzua have preferred this over Aburi? What sort of person chooses a system that makes him weaker, over one that makes him stronger?

The stupidity of Akenzua and others who allowed Gowon and his fellow Northerners to turn them into slaves deserves a medal of honour

Sorry to say your argument is now getting ridiculous. Aburi did not impose military leaders abi? it imposed civilian leaders?
Who appoints the military governors? Who will be the head of state of Nigeria under Aburi? or are you saying Nigeria would have had 4 different heads of states?

How can you have resource control under a unified civil service being controlled by a military head of state that rules by decrees.

The Aburi accord to me was simply power play and power sharing by competing military officers trying to consolidate their hold on power. And Akenzua saw through it.

Igboid:
Lies.
Aburi would have maintained the regions intact and allowed the smooth transition to regionalism once Civilian rule returned in 1979.

You are making assumptions or should I say excuses that was not in the Aburi accord. The Aburi accord never said anything about returning to civilian rule.
How would the regions be maintained in a military unitary system without elected executives and legislature?

gidgiddy:
It would have turned Nigeris into a military oligarchy in the guise of a confederation?

That would have been much better because Nigeria became a military oligarchy under an unguised full blown unitary system

Exactly. That would still have been the fate of Nigeria under the Aburi accord. Confederation could never have worked under a military government. The military operates a unitary command structure. The military heads of the regions would still take their authority and orders from the head of state.

The Aburi accord would have had a chance to work only under a democratic environment, where the people are free to choose their leaders.

One more thing you failed to consider is that the two most powerful military officers at that time - Murtala and Danjuma did not attend the Aburi accord, meaning they disagreed with the whole negotiations. So even if Gowon decided to implement the accord against the wishes of the other regions, what stops Murtala and Danjuma of planing a coup to remove Gowon, and then issue another decree cancelling the whole accord. Thereby plunging us into the war.

It seemed that once the January 1966 coup took place, war was almost inevitable.

gidgiddy:
Thats really funny, for 2 reasons.

1) If the Resgions rejected Aburi, then which Regions did Ironsi abolish?

I am talking about the elected regional representatives before they were overthrown by General Ironsi.

General Ironsi's decree 34 suspended the federal republican constitution of 1963 abolished the regions 3 months earlier. After Godin took over in July 1966, the situation was one of confusion. People though Gowon would return the country back to constitutional democracy, no he instead build on General Ironsi's legacy.

2) Aburi gave the 4 Regions a lot more powers than they had before the first coup. Infact, Aburi more or less made the 4 Regions a confederation because it gave them Regional Military.

How did Aburi give the 4 Regions / provinces more powers when it imposed military leaders on them? How did Aburi give the 4 Regions more powers when the federal government civil service that is responsible to the military head of state controls everything? Is it possible for the regions to have control of their own affairs without their own executives, legislature and civil service?

So it is mindboggling that an agreement that gave all 4 Regions so much autonomy is what Akenzua was against

But Akenzua had no problems with Gowon changing the Midwest Region to Bendel State, siezing their resources and abrogating the revenue sharing formular agreed at independence

Oba Akenzua must have been a strange man because I dont know what type of person will be angry at something that gives him greater freedom, but happy at something that makes him a slave

I will never understand that one

And You think you are wiser than the former Oba of Benin and all representatives of the other 3 regions that rejected the Aburi accord?

gwafaeziokwu:
You sound like an efulefu who doesn't know the basic Igbo cultural norms. Defence has been and will continue to be a man's thing. No Igbo man with correct sense will allow his sister to fight for him.

No mind am. If igbo women carry gun and help liberate their lands, what will be their rewards. Does he not know that accordung to igbo culture, women cannot inherit their fathers land? Why do you want women to sacrifice their lives for a land they cannot inherit?

Also ask am what is the fate of Kurdistan today? With women carrying gun and fighting on the field and after more than 100 years of fighting, is Kurdistan a country?

Icumsa45:
Do you have references to this? Because it was unanimously agreed. The civil war would have been averted if all kept to the accord.

Who unanimously agreed? We're the regions represented at Aburi?
What what happened here;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJLE8GGmY-I

To me the Aburi accord was a selfish power grab by the military. It would have turned Nigeria into a military oligarchy in the guise of confederation.
What happened to democracy and civilian rule that was truncated by the same power hungry military?

Tolexandre:
You mean onky 10 fully complied with the association dues

God bless you. You seem to be the only one that read beyond the headlines. The title is different from the article. The article said " It’s frightening that Nigeria has only 10 standard and accredited laboratories across the country" , but the heading spun it to "Only 10 Medical Labs In Nigeria Produce Reliable Results" .

This simply means that many Medical Laboratories don't bother to register and go through the accreditation process because of high processing fees, high dues, frustrating administrative bottlenecks and of course "egunje". I am sure the only ones that gets accredited are government laboratories. I am sure states and federal government laboratories are more than 10. So it means that some government laboratories are not even accredited.

Icumsa45:
Why did Gowon turn his back on the Aburi accord?

Because the other regions rejected the Aburi accord after it had been signed, especially the Midwest region. In a letter to general Gowon Prince Akenzua of Benin Kingdom rejected the Aburi Accord.

basilico:
How much hatred you have for someone you will never meet.
Generally Africans in diaspora work harder than some entitled SoBs minority residents .
Why wont you take a job. His mean tweets?
A job has contractual arrangements and as long as you agree with the terms,your mooney is safe.

Because ALL the people that had work for Trump always end up worse than before they started working for him. All his previous lawyers are either in jail or about to be prosecuted for crimes. His accountants and close aids are about to be prosecuted for crimes. Even his children that works for him are facing criminal charges. Most that that escape criminal charges can only get work at Foxnews after working for him.

Is that the person you want me to work for? Not for all the dollars in the world

Sipsum:
Werey la fi nwo werey, twitter got everything mixed up, why is twitter just seeing that Kanu's statement is a violation of twitter rules?.
So if the Nigerian government had not treat their Bleep up, na so the rubbish for continue?.
Shame on twitter, I didn't know that outfit could be this shallow.

Because Twitter cannot possible read hundreds of millions of tweets everyday. They depend on people reporting violations before they can look at it. Same with nairaland, a moniker has to be reported before it can be banned. That's how social media world. If the government had reported Kanu's tweets and it was not acted upon, then you can blame Twitter for double standards.

Aaronsrod:
That is not a rabbit. It is a giant rat!!

Also, I'm sorry to say, but your food looks like oily faeces.

Enjoy.

Where is the giant?
While I was staying at Orile Iganmu, rats that come to visit the house every night is bigger than that rational there.

Omeizadean:
Forrk all these talk about early sex breeding cancers. The Philippines age of sexual maturity is 13 and we don't hear them dying of cervical cancer. Our my grandma lives to 97 before she passed away, with all her vital organs healthy. She was married at early of 15. Our older generations, even in all their supposed ignorance were even healthier. If stand against early sex because of religious reason not because of scientific reason. All sex outside of marriage rent space in hell for us. God forgive me pls.

Exactly. Most of our grand mothers or great grandmothers were given out in marriage before they were 16. There were never cases of cervical cancer. Even in Europe, during the Middle Ages and before the age of enlightenment, girls were given out in marriage once they start seeing their period. We did not hear of cervical cancer. Even till today, girls are given out in marriage before the age of 15 in predominantly Islamic countries like Pakistan, Indonesia, Afghanistan, etc. They don't record cases of cervical cancer.

Where is the medical report and data linking cervical cancer with early sex in girls less than 16 years. Where is the research paper?

I am not condoning teen sex, as it presents other physical and psychological risks. But giving wrong and unverified information should not be used to discourage it.

basilico:
Because you assert that there was no widespread fraud, And that's you by the way, should states like Arizona , Georgia Pennsylvania conduct a forensic audit. An audit checks whether protocols, rules and laws were followed, A forensic audit checks whether votes were counted OK, whether valid votes were correctly tabulated, whether votes were incorrectly credited to others, whether voters who were not in the rolls voted etc.

What your brains find difficult to process is that you cannot accuse anyone based on assumptions. You require hard evidence. That you are unable to present evidence of something is not proof of fraud or crime. Even if you are caught m in a room with a dead person, you cannot be guilty of murder without the murder weapon, motif and opportunity.
How come even before the result of the audit report comes out, you are already 100% sure of widespread fraud. From where did you get your evidence? Then if you guys are really concerned about election integrity in the future, should you guys not request forensic audit of the whole elections? Why only large counties in swing states that Trump lost? If there were fraud in all those counties as alleged, don't you then think the same fraud would have happened in all counties in the US?

basilico:
Agreed People died and instead of investigating why they died , they are looking at Trumps returns.
And to be vulgar Prideofbullshit is ejaculating over Trump indictment to come.
Millions died

How can the root cause of people dying be investigated when the Republicans resist any form of investigation. They have been looking at Trump's tax returns since he was sworn in in 2016, since he has been hiding his tax returns. It did not start on January 6th.

A lot of us has been ejaculating over Trump's indictment to come. We have been saying it for years, that he cannot escape the southern district of New York once he losses immunity.
We all knew for decades that he ran a criminal organization in the guise of a property development company from New York.

basilico:
For posterity's sake kindly assert here one and for all that there was no widespread fraud and that. Joe Biden won clear, fair and square with 81m votes

F o r posterity's sake I am asserting once and for all that, there was no evidence of widespread fraud in the 2020 US elections. The only evidence of miniscule fraud that had been proven was perpetuated by Republican voters. Joe Biden won clear, fair and square with 81m votes.
Now if you have any evidence of fraud by Joe Biden or democrats in general, instead of assumptions, innuendos and conspiracy theories, present them for all to see.

To douse probable legal tension, it is important for the proclamation instrument of the statement of emergency to expressly provide for the suspension of Chapter IV of the 1999 Constitution and its attendant enforcement rules,

In effect Mr Malami is asking Buhari to execute a coup against the Government and people of Nigeria.

Obrigardo:
trump is Bankrupt. The criminal wants to sell the trump hotel in DC but no one wants to buy. And he shut his awful blog site coz no one visits it. Indictments and arrests coming soon. Happy New Month of June in 1st year of Biden's 8 year presidency everyone.

Trump's power lies with Twitter and to some extent facebook. These platform gives him the opportunity to reach out to large groups of far right organizations and members like QAnon, Proud boys, oath keepers, etc. Without Twitter Trump is a lame duck. His so called "latest technological innovation' - a simple blog, is a huge failure.

The cloud of indictments is slowly gathering and a storm of charges will follow, with high possibility of jail time for Trump. I eagerly await the reaction of his cult worshippers.

LegendHero:
FG have the right to defend themselves just like the citizens themselves reserve the right to report FG.

If I am the president, I won’t also sit back and do nothing when people start killing my policemen, burn federal institutions, and kill soldiers. No president, even in the USA will sit by and watch but since we are in Nigeria, anything goes for clout.

However, Buhari Tweet too is not that needed using that kind of language especially when the atmosphere is still tense for Biafra remembrance day.

So Twitter is Justified for deleting Buhari Tweet but that shouldn’t stop Buhari from defending his security forces and restoring normalcy. He should just extend the same to the bandits and herdsmen wreaking havoc.

OBJ ordered shoot at sight on OPC then even when they were his fellow Yorubas. So Buhari should do same on Fulani herdsmen, bandits, and Unknown gunmen too.

OBJ issued a shoot at sight order on OPC which is a pressure group of his own tribe. Can Buhari issue a shoot at sight order on Boko Haram or Fulani Herdsmen? Buhari is soft on Fulani Herdsmen because they are his brothers and sons, but issues shoot at sight order on IPOB. Is that not clanish or rather tribalistic.
If I am president, I won’t also sit back and do nothing when herdsmen start killing my fellow Nigerians, burning crops, villages and raping women.
No president in the world would remain in office with the degree of murders and insecurity being experienced in Nigeria. Such president would have since resigned, because the primary duty of government is protection of lives and property.

GalaticHorde:
or maybe more people were eligible so more people voted, and also given trumpy's 4 years of misrule many who previously couldn't be bothered to vote previously were motivated to kick him out. Simple answers without any need for complications. Yes many liked trump but many more disliked him

What he does not understand is that voter turnout is highest when people are dissatisfied with the current administration, and lowest when people are not bothered enough to come out and vote out the administration.

The unusual high turn out in the last elections was due to the democrats being fired up by their hatred of Trump and an equally riled up Republican base of Trump. Even within the Republican base you had riled up groups like the Lincoln Project that energized Republicans against Trump.

basilico:
Read this article. Debunk the gist of the story by not dismissing it as a conspiracy theory from a right wing publication.
Try and do justice and earn my respect.

https://townhall.com/columnists/rachelalexander/2021/05/31/az-secretary-of-state-katie-hobbs-is-out-of-control-on-ballot-audit-n2590243

It's not me dismissing the article as conspiracy theory from a right wing publication, the writer did it by himself in the last two paragraphs.

basilico:
Yea a lot of GOPe did not like him.
There is a little matter of Zuckerberg cash, that noone knows how it was used
You have a breakdown?
Ill be glad to know how the Zucker cash was used
As they say always follow the money

A lot of GOP did not like him.
The press did not like him.
The majority of Americans did not like him.
The CIA, FBI and Civil servants did not like him.
But you guys insisted had won the elections. Does that sound reasonable.

It's now zuckerberg cash. Before it was George Soros cash, then it was Bloomberg cash and later Jeff Bezos cash.

No one knows how zuckerberg cash was used, but then somehow you know it was used to bribe Maricopa County Board officials to rig Biden in.

Honestly you have serious issues.

basilico:
The same board that has a lot to hide really?

A largely Republican board has something to hide? What exactly?

Romanoff:
That looks more like a cut sha.

Those familiar with bullet wounds should please, analyse.

Looks more like a bite wound. He better quickly go for a rabbis shot