₦airaland Forum

TripleOh7:
Reno is a fool. So are the other people who are rooting for a cold hearted psycho bitch.

What's your evidence that she herself took the ruffies?

She slipped it into the man's drink and was able to overpower him, stabbing him several times.

It's alarming that there are some people of low morals who want that girl set free.

Shame on y'all.

Hope your fathers meet the same fate...or do you think your fathers aren't cheating on your mothers?

Reno is more than a fool. I am ashamed we are from the same tribe. We wish to donate him to Biafra or Oduduwa.

A girl that book a guest house under false identity and false phone number using fake ID.

A girl that stabbed a full grown man in his neck and chest with such ferocity that the knife broke.

A girl that discretely left the murder scene with the murder weapon, ATM card and IPhone. She might have even tortured the guy to get his ATM PIN before killing him.

A girl that was talking confidently and coldly on camera how she murdered another human being.

This is the person reno and others are sympathetic to.

Unbelievable.

Zooposki:
You think evidence like your sperm, bodily fluids etc cannot be found on her person? Even if she gives consent and claim you rape her, you are in serious trouble. All she has to do is go to the hospital and ask for a rape kit. You better be on good terms with the person you are having sex with o.

You have this false notion of rape. Rape along with murder are some of the most difficult cases to prove. To be convicted of rape requires much more that word of mouth from the lady. She would have to prove the use of force and non consent. She has to show evidence of force with medical report. Circumstances leading to the sex would also be considered, like if there is an ongoing relationship, where the act took place, and so on.

Zooposki:
If she takes back the consent midway you have to stop. If the thing dey sweet you, just hand finish the job. Lol.

She has no legal right to take back her consent midway. Once she gave consent for penetration, I must finish before I withdraw the penetration.
It's like giving me eba to swallow and once it hits my throat asking be to vomit it back.

Zooposki:
Una no dey hear word. Rape is a type of sexual assault usually involving sexual intercourse or other forms of sexual penetration carried out against a person without that person's consent. The act may be carried out by physical force, coercion, abuse of authority, or against a person who is incapable of giving valid consent, such as one who is unconscious, incapacitated, has an intellectual disability, or is below the legal age of consent.

No dispute with the above definition of rape.

My disagreement was when you added that after consent and penetration achieved, the consent can then be withdrawn midway into the act and it would still be considered rape.

Zooposki:
It is what it is. Lamentations won’t change the meaning of rape. Even if she say yes and you don enter the heavenly place and she changes her mind and says no, you better remove it. If not, na rape.

False. Rape involves unconsented penetration. If she had consented penetration she cannot then unconsent and then allege rape.

Imagine fúcking and then about to reach point of release and then the lady says she no do again. If you then refuse to withdraw and the release, she cannot claim rape in any court of law.

Jman06:
I'm one of those who'll give that girl a second chance. Not justifying what she did but I believe she did that in self defense.

This should serve as a lesson to other married men to keep their prickks at home for their wives.

If it was your son, father or brother she murdered, would you be so sympathetic?

Self defense for where? Not 1 nor 2 but 3 strategically placed fatal stabs and you are shouting self defense. Where are the defense wounds on her body? Where are the assault wounds. Shelf defense shows in the arms and hands as that the the part of the body you use to defend yourself.

Even the man had no defensive wounds, which means he did not have the opportunity to defend himself.

I think this case has taken the usual tribal dimensions. Her tribesmen anf women are sympathetic to the girl, while his tribesmen and women are sympathetic to the murdered man.

tunapawizzy:
She will do her time....she will get a second chance in life. Will she be mentally ready to make the best of the second chance?

I doubt she will get a second chance at life. If she is convicted for 1st degree murder, she gets the death penalty. If 2nd or 3rd degree murder, she gets very lengthy jail time -between 25 to 50 years.

DIGIMARKETER:
She took the drug voluntarily but she didn't want to have sex voluntarily. I have spent 4 days in a hotel room with a girl and throughout she said we need to know each other better and she never allowed sex and I didn't push it even though money was not agreed upon. Decent girls are also allowed to date but men see it as as long as she is in the room with me na wetin carry her come.

The places she stabbed the guy suggest to me that he was awake and there must have been some sort of struggle between them and let's not forget he hid the keys to the flat so she couldn't have ran out

Note: I'm not saying she is innocent o o.

You know all these because you were in the room or you have seen the video clips? If you have seen the video of the murder please share with us.

There is no way the girl would have stabbed the man, a physically fit man in the neck twice while he is upright. And to stab him with such ferocity that the knife broke means the man was lying down.

You mean you spent 4 days in a hotel room alone with a girl and you guys did not have sex? Then Why were you at the hotel in the first place and who paid for the hotel and feeding? This your story get as e be.

VeeVeeMyLuv:
they were both under the influence of weed and hard drug so their ability to make sound judgement was obscured and compromised.

But she had sound judgement to change clothes and leave the lodge quietly without anyone noticing.
She had sound judgement to take the knife along with her and throw it in the dust bin.

She had sound judgement to steal his ATM and withdraw money from his account.

salem1996:
Christian Religion is personal. Beside, if you want the God of the Christian to save Nigeria, then everyone in Nigeria should first become a Christian. If not, why will he save a country where majority are those against him??

This your God must be very wicked o. He needs everybody to be saved before he can save the country. I don't think there is one country in this world that all its citizens are saved.

Besides Yahweh said in Genesis 18:26 - "And the LORD said, If I find in Sodom fifty righteous within the city, then I will spare all the place for their sakes". At the end of the day Yahweh said if they can find just 10 righteous men in Sodom, he will spare the city.

opribo:
Ok the guy died in the line of work and the client is saying she acted in self defense. Which is admissible but why withdraw his money continuously after his death.

Self defense don't hold any water. Self defense from what?
They had been there for a couple of nights before the murder.
She was the one that actually booked the lodge with fake name. She was never kidnapped or raped. This is definitely not the first time of them booking a lodge together for sex.

Sometimes I wonder the kind of heart some girls have these days. For a girl to murder a man and still have the mind to be stealing from a dead man's account. It really makes me shiver at what a presumed 21yr old girl looking innocent can do. You have the mind to stab a full grown man to death and you walked home to sleep like nothing happened, hmm, that means this man is not her first victim, she must have killed before.

Me too I was shocked by her demeanor during the interview. For someone that just killed another human being, she was calm. Her demeanor reminded me if Derrick Chauvin after he murdered George Floyd - cold with no emotions. For a 21 year old girl, that's scarry.

I know some men don't keep to the bargain especially after collecting, in those days they will embarrass the guy in public but now they want to kill you outright.

This is most likely not about the guy not keeping to their bargain, she said the man gave her his ATM to withdraw any amount she wants. I feel the girl wanted more, much more, and so planned the murder, probably with an accomplice.

How did kitchen knife come into the equation on since its a short time joint. Could it be she was carrying the knife with her all along, how did she walk away from the hotel without anyone seeing any blood stains or other evidence.

That's what a proper investigation will reveal. I hope the police were able to recover the knife as she has attempted to get rid of the murder weapon. She was sane enough to know that she had to get rid of the murder weapon, since she claimed she acted under intoxication.

The girl still leaves with her parents that shows some level of control, but then parents still need to do more to keep an eye on what their kids are doing and who they are with.

I suspect the parents are responsible for the narcissistic behaviour of the girl. She does not look normal. Her parents are separated and she lives with her father. I hope she was not abused by her father or other family members.

mrsage:
From the little information available. She has a good case of self defense.

So far it's difficult to establish a motive for murder

Self defense ko, mass attack ni.
She stabbed the man in the neck twice and once in the chest.
She did not raise any alarm after the stabbing or made any attempt to save his life. If the man had been taken to hospital in time, his life might have been saved. But she allowed him to bleed to death and start rotting. That's cold hearted.
She stole his ATM and IPhone and withdrew money from his account after she knew he was dead. That's cruel. It shows her only motivation was money.
She claimed self defense but had no defensive wounds. She only claimed she had a cut in her hand. No injury to her arm, body or even her face.
Pure premeditated murder.
Nigerians have a knack for supporting evil but claim to be godly.

hammer3x:
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SHE ACTED UNDER THE INFLUENCE OF INTOXICATION.

Intoxication does not make one to commit murder. Intoxication only reduces our inhibitions to do things we are normally too afraid to do. Besides with the intoxication she was able to steal the man's ATM card, IPhone and other items and able to find her way home without anyone noticing.

IT IS NOT A MURDER CASE DUE TO THE ABSENCE OF INTENT TO KILL.

Classic murder case. Intent can be inferred from her booking the lodge with a fake name and bringing a knife.

HAD THE 50 YEAR OLD DECEASED NOT INTRODUCED THE 21 YEAR OLD LADY TO DRUGS INDUCED SEX, THE STABBING WOULD NOT HAVE OCCURED.

And you know that the 50 year old was the person that introduced the girl to sex induced drug? And Why would the 50 year old need to introduce the 21 year old to sex induced drug? Is she not a runs girl or side chick for over 4 months? And they have been in the lodge together for 3 days prior.

CHIDINMA HAS NO CRIMINAL RECORD OR RECORD OF VIOLENCE.


SHE WAS DESCRIBED AS A QUIET GIRL.

All these irrelevant to this case. The evidence will speak for itself

EVIDENTLY, SHE COULD NOT PLAN TO STEAL HIS MONEY OR LEAVE THE COUNTRY.

But she did actually steal his money.

SHE SIMPLY WITHDREW HER SCHOOL FEES, WITH THE PIN NUMBER THE DECEASED HAD PROVIDED HER FOR THAT PURPOSE.

Ehen. Is she his daughter or his family? Why is he responsible for her school fees and why did she have to kill him before she can withdraw her school fees?

PLEASE, TRY TO BE OBJECTIVE.

Your post is the most bias post I have read.

Aksnoopy:
She is going to jail for at least 25 years. Meaning she will clock her menopausal age in prison and if you ain't careful you will be going to prison with her. I.diot.

That's if she does not face the death penalty. The case has all the elements of 1st degree murder. There is premeditation - she booked the guest house herself under a false name. There is motive - she stole the man's money and IPhone. There is the murder weapon - a kitchen knife (wonder how a kitchen knife got there).

This looks like a well planned murder to steal from the man. They checked in together on Sunday, so I don't understand how rape and date drug came into the picture on Tuesday evening. I am sure the Rohypnol tablets was used to sedate the guy. I have seen a lady sleep 24 complete hours after being drugged by the drug.

Here excuses were so incoherent and stupid.
More facts will come out during trial.

BRATISLAVA:
She's realized it's not what she wants, so she is free to end it. Whether 3 or 13 years. Relationships aren't by force or pity.

No one here is saying relationships should be by force or pity. She came looking for advice and people are giving their opinions. 3 years is a enough time to decide if you want to marry your boyfriend or not. You seem to forget that for a lady time is not on her side. If she spends another 3 years trying trying another relationship, when will she be ready for marriage? When will she start having and raising children?

Where is the insult to Catholics? Catholics on the thread have shown their oversensitivity, crass intolerance and extremism towards Pentecostals. Shameful display.

"during my service year I gave my life to Christ, got saved and left the Catholic Church. So I’ve been a Pentecostal Christian since then. He on the other hand is still catholic. I subtly try to nudge him to consider getting saved"
The above quote is an insult to the 1.2billion Catholics of the world. She is telling them that they are not saved. Maybe only her new found sect is saved.

Just look at the number of pages of anger as if Catholics are saints.

Catholics never claimed to be saints. In fact Catholics acknowledge and confess their sins every week or regularly and beg for forgiveness constantly. It's you Pentecostals ( some will say penterascals) that believes they are holy and every other sect or persons are sinners.

It's you guys that displays anger, hatred and intolerance towards every body else. I drank you guys in the same category as ISIS anx Boko Haram. It's just that you are not violent yet.

BRATISLAVA:
I thought I was the only person who noticed it.

27 pages and counting from people who aren't objective.

Once she mentioned he was Catholic, it was obvious they wouldn't stick to the facts but instead turn it into an anti Pentecostal thread.

We have people who have concluded she wants her pastor to choose a husband for her, just because she doesn't want to marry a lukewarm Christian, whether Catholic or not. So many people mistake being born again for other things.

Anyone can screen who they will marry by whatever criteria they please. Whether they get married young or late, it's not enough reason to settle for what one can't tolerate. If she knows they will have issues on it, then it means she knows the man better than we do. There is more she has not said about his religious stance, which is giving her doubts.

She does not want to marry a lukewarm Christian but she has been enjoying the benefits of a lukewarm christian for 3 years including knacking.

No one can dictate whoever she wants to marry for her, but she should not insult Catholics to justify her reasons.

miketayo:
You seem more like the problem here. When u were a Catholic, were u worshipping d devil or I don't understand. Not until u kabash in prayers before God will hear u. Quit d relationship let d poor man find a better half

Abeg help me ask am, was Jesus a Christian, was any of the disciples born again, did Jesus himself impose all these doctrines on his followers?
To me Jesus was not a religious fanatic, he eat with sinners, he entered the house of sinners, he never condemned anyone (except the Pharisees for their hypocrisy).

mugnmuffin:
First, I want to apologize for the statement insinuating that Catholic Christians are less Christian compared to Pentecostals. That was not meant to be a generalization. The reason why faith is my principal concern is because, as a Christian, there are certain ethics and codes of conduct a person adopts and practices that guide their actions and decisions. It is the crux of the matter for me.

Many of the comments are asking for elaboration especially with regards to other aspects besides spirituality. Some of the red flags in terms of his attitude and behavior that give me cause for concern are how he relates with ladies; I found that he cheated on me a couple of times. Some of my friends who are married assure me that it is nothing to worry about because “men will always be men”. However, I feel like overlooking that means ‘settling’. Also, he tends to act like we’re competing for career success. I’m a banker and he works with a company and is well paid. From comments he makes when I make attempts to pursue growth, like take courses or attend conferences to network, his response shows that he thinks it’s a waste of time and resources. I don’t always expect him to give me financial support, even if encouragement. But he feels I should be content with my current status. It scares me that he may staunch my progress after marriage.
I’m no saint myself, but I know marriage is a lifetime affair and just because I didn’t look before I leaped into the relationship doesn’t mean I shouldn’t at this point try to make amends.

This your update is at variance with your opening post. You yourself is not being truthful with yourself and with your fiancee.

How can you reconcile these two opposing statements? "he checks all the boxes on the checklist of physical attributes" and then "I found that he cheated on me a couple of times"?
Your initial post gave us the impression that your fiancee was a perfect man and that the only issue was one of religious or should I say doctrinal differences only for you to later insinuate that he is misogynistic cheater.

It's not about religion. Don't blame your doctrinal differences. What I have discovered is that religion does not change people, else Nigeria would be the most moral country in the world, with everyone claiming born again. it only hides their worst impulses. Marriages between born agains don't have a better success rate than the general population. The same problem of infidelity affect born again marriages like every other marriages.

The keyword to a successful marriage is love, respect and communication. You should be sharing your concerns with your prospective husband instead of on social media. You guys need to sit together and discuss what you both want from the marriage. You need to discuss kids - number and how they are to be raised, finances, career paths and how you both will deal with the in-laws. Marriage like any other human endeavour requires planning, hard work and dedication to make it work. It has little to do with religion.

PrincessGlow:
Opposites attract. You probably "envy" each other at some level - you, her faith; she, your "freedom"

Na no "envy" whatsoever. We just allow each other to express themselves spiritually, the way it makes you happy.

My mum is Catholic and she gets along very well with my wife. Some Sundays my mum takes the children to Catholic mass. Some Sundays my wife takes them to winners chapel. Me I go to work on Sundays after dropping them off in church.

bull67:
G.Os and pastors, Imams are the problem in nigeria. In the 50s,60,70, most nigerians marry from other religion and later if they like they cross over, some do not. The country was moving in a good direction. Then their where not so many places of worship because everybody had a job. There where many proffesionals, tectnicians e.t.c. the unemployment wasvery low. But now in the era of religion where people dont want to work but expecting manna from heaven it has turned so manny nigerians to be useless. And the useless ones take religion has a proffession to decieve people.

If you do a research you will discover that there is a correlation between the degrading moral fabric of the Nigerian society and rise of religiosity in Nigeria. In the 60s and 70s before the rise of Pentecostalism, we had good moral values. There was love between neighbours no matter the tribe or religion. Pentecostalism breeds greed, hatred and hypocrisy.

PrincessGlow:
Not only that, all these GO's credibly accused of rapes and all sorts of wayo miracles.
mugnmuffin focus on the person, not the church the person belongs to, or what the person says

Me I be atheist, my wife na Pentecostal. And we have been happily married for over 10 years with no problem.

Marriage and relationships in general should be based on love, respect and compromise. You don't need to force everyone to follow your beliefs and views to feel happy about yourself.

alexvic12:
I perfectly understand you. Please, take time to pray and seek God's face.

WE MARRY FOR KINGDOM ADVANCEMENT AND NOT FOR ONLY LOVE!

If he doesn't think being a Christian goes deeper than the 'normal Christian life' that most people lead, please pause or even call off the wedding.

Forget about age or pressure; focus on God.

He will send his choice to you. Remember, WE MARRY FOR KINGDOM ADVANCEMENT AND NOT FOR ONLY LOVE!!

And you did not have this advice for pastor Chris Oyakhilome, pastor Chris Okotie or numerous pastors or G.Os who divorced their wives few years after marriage.

Then what will you say about uncountable number of Muslim to Christian marriages.

Religion in Africa has became a vehicle for hatred instead of love.

JESHAL:
Dullard solve your single motherhood crisis,that the root, fatherlessness is an epidemic stop subsidizing single mothers with welfare packages

If they stop subsidizing single mothers what happens to their children?
Of course you don't care, you only care for children while in the womb, once they leave the womb you don't care for their lives anymore. You see them as reward of The problem sins of their mothers and so must suffer with with their mothers.

Strongbest:
Lols. How are we sure of that? Very unintelligent youth.

Just point out what you think is wrong in his write up if you think you are intelligent if not, stop quoting me because I hate wasting my time on slowpokes.

He is wrong on so many levels. Government might as well regulate free speech, social gatherings and even free thought. Government should not be in the business of regulating what people do with their time. Someone that spends 70% of his time on social media should face the consequences alone.
Social media just like any other invention can be used for positive or negative. Many youths that have used social media for positives have made and continue to make millions of naira from it. Do you know how many youths make their living from social media.

What we should be talking about is to enact laws or extending existing libel and sedition laws to cover social media, so that anyone that is hurt by fake news or lies can easily seek redress in court.

Rossiminku:
It is cursed with thoughtless people like you who don't understand how international commerce operates.

FYI, in today's world, nobody develops solely or even mostly through the export of raw materials. Not even diamonds.

Unless you are a tiny gulf state with huge oil reserves like Kuwait or UAE, you pretty much need to be into heavy manufacturing, to build a developed society today.

The income from raw materials export is NOT ENOUGH to develop.

The bottlenecks on African manufacturing, ie processing those raw materials into finished goods for export at higher prices than the raw materials, are the monstrous tariffs imposed by western, Asian and other nations on imports of African manufactured products.

This makes the African manufactured goods uncompetitive, discouraging manufacturing on the continent.

The USA has in recent years, implemented AGOA, to ease this discrimination against African manufactures, but they are only 20% of the world economy. The entire world needs to lift restrictions on the imports of African manufactured goods, to create a level playing field.

THAT is when Africa can finally take its rightful place in the comity of nations.

In the meantime, Africa will continue to improve on INTRA-African trade, and increasing the buying power of its citizenry, so as to eventually become self-sufficient in the production and sale of its manufactured products within the continent.

That's the most logical way to go. Africa has a large enough market, we don't really need to export to the rest of the world. With our over 1 billion population we can even meet half of the African market.

The problem of Africa in terms of production of manufactured goods are poor infrastructure, poor public health facilities, poor and useless educational policy, poor communication due to language barrier and most important of all undue influence by former colonial powers who profit from creating instability.

commodore007:
Africa her people walk on diamond yet they can hardly feed their stomachs, Africa The warehouse and store of the world raw materials for production of The commodities that sustain the world population, yet she has missed out on two major Industrial Revolution,
Africa is not in short supply of human resources.
We need leaders who are willing to lose their lives until then, her people would keep on walking on Gold with empty soles

African leaders who are ready to lose their lives to better their people and reject foreign exploitation will just do that. He would be killed in a coup sponsored by foreign powers or he will be disposed. Ask Kwame Nkrumah, ask Gaddafi, ask Sankara, ask Lulumba. Mandela was able to survive and celebrated because he did not disrupt the system.

IMAliyu:
I can't say for the rest of Africa.

But Nigeria had a chance with the 70s oil boom.
To use the inflow of capital to expand its manufacturing and other industry, but this is where the human factor came in.
Our leaders lacked vision, and the embezzling killed that opportunity.

And there is the conspiratorial possiblity, that Africa is intentionally being kept poor and prevented from manufacturing, because if it were to start manufacturing, that would mean that the cost goods for the developed world will substantially go up.

But a lot of previously poor Asian countries were able to get themselves out of a similar situation. As an aunt of mine would say "Did those people have two heads?"

Nigeria stood no chance to expand its manufacturing and industrial base in the 70s despite the oil boom. Why? Because the leaders we had that were incidentally British trained were not equipped with the knowledge and skills of building a self sustaining industrialized country. Take a look at the leadership then Gowon, Garba, Buhari, etc. These guys were all in their early 30s, some in their late 20s. Most had no experience or training whatsoever in administration or governance. With the oil boom, they could not build universities, power stations, railways, roads and bridges or even airports. Yet Gowon could declare then that our problems was not money but how to spend it.

You cannot compare us to Asian countries. Asian countries already had structured and advanced societies. Most Asian countries were not completely colonized and exploited the way it was done in Africa, because Europe did not need raw materials from Asia. Asians were not made to hate each other with the same divide and rule tactics the Europeans employed in Africa.

Ikwerelastborn:
Well the people said otherwise and as the saying goes ,the voice of the people is the voice of God.
Allow easterners to go, is very simple

And you are the voice of the people? Those that was voted to speak for the people have spoken, if you want to speak for igbo people, ask the people to allow you to represent them. If they elect you to speak for them, then you will be taken seriously. For now you are simply an aggrieved youth or individual speaking for himself.

IMAliyu:
Africa only supplies the world with raw materials. We don't produce, at least not at the scale of those countries mentioned.

The problem is a finished/end product will always be more valuable than, raw material.
It's the difference between the profit margins and labour of a farmer, and that of a fastfood joint.

And the only reason these mineral resources in Africa are valuable, is because of the demand from these manufacturing countries. Otherwise we don't seem to be seeking value in them.

Even the simple brown silica sand in our houses can be turned into something of value in the right hands.

Brown silica in your house will not turn to something of value by itself, it would need first and formost knowledge on how to turn it into something of value and then machinery and capital.
First our knowledge base is faulty as African to to school to learn to speak English and acquire administrative knowledge to serve the western demands and needs. Then we have not even started the road to industrialisation by building relevant infrastructures. Finally, the capital for developing the relevant manpower and building infrastructure is just not available. So we are confined to selling raw materials without adding any value.

NwaIgboBoy:
And the answer is yes! I think Africa is cursed especially Nigeria

If you say Africa is cursed, it also means you too is cursed because you are an African.

The countries you look up to today were cursed with disease, ignorance, superstition and bad leadership for thousands of years. The people finally came together and fought for a better life instead of throwing their hands up and scream "we are cursed".

omotola90:
lol....so are there no virgin sisters in their late 20s? Is there any theory that stipulates that ladies that kept their virginity till then have some form of hormonal problem or have hormonal imbalance? Why shielding away from the truth.... Pre-marital sex is bad and shouldn't be encouraged? If anyone is a victim, tell God to forgive you.... That's the sole reason of many failed relationship we have today.... Peace

I am not saying there are no virgin girls in their late 20s or even 30s. What I am saying is that it is an abnormality. I honestly don't pray for my daughter to be a virgin into her late 20s.

Yes premarital sex is bad, but as I said, in present world situation where ladies are not ready for marriage well into their 20s and with the degree of freedom they have, premarital sex is an a reality.

There is this friend of my wife's friend that got married while a virgin in their thirties. Her virgina had closed and the husband could not penetrate until she underwent an operation.

omotola90:
universal fact or your theory...

Universal fact.