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ThatFairGuy1:
WARP.
Because they liked it made them potential criminals? Did he make is dealings OBVIOUS?

Is it not OBVIOUS from the way he spends money without any history of viable business or inheritance? His lifestyle on Instagram alone makes his dealing OBVIOUS.

Rebuke:
And yhu just have to bring gospel into this. I do not understand what yhu guys have against the church......is hushpuppy now a preacher?

Resist the urge to always spew rubbish and face the issue at hand.

As an adult, if yhu commit crime because yhu were pressurised to do so by the extravagant life style of scammers then yhu need to have yhur head examined. It's either yhu are sick in the head or yhu a scammer waiting for an opportunity to manifest.

I never brought the gospels into it. Men of God is not the gospel.

We guys have grouse against the church (prosperity churches), because they have become exactly what Jesus preached against in Matthew 21:12-17. Nigerian Men of God has converted the temple into a den of robbers.

Husspuppi is not a preacher, but many preachers preach in support of Husspuppi lifestyle.

As an adult you can easily be influenced by people you hold in high esteem like parentd. pastors, imams, sports heros, etc. When your spiritual leader promotes acquisition of questionable wealth in the guise of blessings, it kills your consicience and makes you proud of your criminal activities.

Authority1o1:
Okay...


God really did a wonderful work using Hushpupp-y. Who among you has been privileged to be an instrument of fulfillment for a prophecy?

My Bible tells me that God cannot be mocked. See a crook who lived off people's money, who could do anything to attain fame and the status of a wealthy man, blatantly brought God into the picture.

God simply took his prayers, retouched it and answered it in reverse.

That's the result of the prosperity gospel promoted by new generation churches. It's all about fast acquisition of money without regard for the source and then showing off as a testimony of God's blessings.

Imagine this instagram post having over 300,000 likes. That's 300000 potential criminals.

FBI has a very weak case against ACP Anna Kyari. Except they have other evidence outside what was released to the public so far, a crime against the US or US citizen cannot be proven in a court of law.

Here’s what we learnt.

American prosecutors, in their complaint, established a relationship between Mr Kyari and Hushpuppi. They also established that there was a relationship between Hushpuppi and two female co-conspirators in the U.S.

Yes there is a relationship between Mr Kyari and Hushpuppi. Relations between. Citizens and police officers is normal all over the world. It's not a crime to have a relationship with police officers.

I could not find any evidence in the report that Kyari has any relationship with the two female co-conspirators living in the U.S.

Mr Kyari arrested and detained Chibuzo Vincent for five weeks to block him from further dissuading the Qatari businessperson not to send money to the U.S. bank accounts run by the two women for Hushpuppi.

There is no evidence in the report that Mr Kyari detained Chibuzo with the intent of blocking him from dissuading the Qatari businessperson from sending money to the U.S. bank accounts. What I read was that Husspuppi paid Kyari to lock up Vincent in order to punish him for squealing. He might has well have ordered Kyari to execute chibuzor, it will only cost Huss much more. In Nigeria people pay police officers to lock up opponents and adversaries for all sorts of things. How many times have landlord paid police to lock up stubborn tenants?

Since it was clear in the indictment that Mr Kyari knew that holding Chibuzo was only to allow Hushpuppi to defraud the Qatari businessperson of an additional $575,000 as Hushpuppi specifically mentioned to Mr Kyari, this made Mr Kyari an accomplice in the fraud that passed through American banks .

Where was it stated in the indictment that Kyari was aware of any Qatari businessman or about a $575,000 sum? There is no evidence that Mr Kyari was involved or privy to the said scam.

In the document, prosecutors said Mr Kyari received his share through proxies from Hushpuppi after the Qatari businessperson transferred the money to American banks for Hushpuppi’s female co-conspirators. This made American banks victim of a scheme in which Mr Kyari was a key player, thus the country’s interest.

You are telling me that in a deal worth $575,000, Kyari being aware that he was a major factor to the success of the deal agreed to collect $20k as his share of the deal. Now did Kyari collect his money before playing his part in the deal or after the deal had succeeded and the parties were sharing the loot? You can only prove he is a co-conspirator if the latter is the case.

FoolishBoy419:
If rape cases cannot be reported, why do we get many of them every year? And stigma doesn't only occur in the north, many southerners do settle rape cases out of court and the victims do get looked down upon.

I don't understand what you wrote up there? Are you saying many rape cases are reported in the north every year?

How many rape cases make it to court in the south? Most rape cases we hear about are allegations made on the pages of newspapers. Only few high profile cases make it to court.

Secondly, the average 15 year old in the north IS NOT a married woman. I don't know how these kinds of stereotypes get spread in the north. The only possible explanation is that you don't know what 'average' means.

If the average northern 15 year old girl in the north (and I mean core north) is not married, what then are the millions of girls doing? They are not doing almajiri, they are not leaning work, they are not farming and they are certainly not in school.

Southern youths don't marry 16 year olds. They just rape them instead

http://www.punchng.com/metro-plus/pastor-rapes-16-year-old-during-three-day-deliverance-prayer/

And northern youths don't rape teens and pre teens.
https://www.thenigerianvoice.com/amp/news/262965/13-year-old-girl-allegedly-raped-by-imam-7-others-says-th.html

Pierocash:
do you understand English? Read my comment again

Abeg helep me translate this for broken, as I be proper warri boy, na broken be our lingua franca.

I have fought a lot of spiritual battles which I won but not without a scratch

Blakpot:
Bad timing.
Since the wild card revelation, Maria has been stressed, emotionally unstable, its clear to see. Its a bit insensitive to just pull her aside and say i like you.
Very immature.
Na teenager she be?
He deserves that response he got. Mumu.

Besides she values her friendship with Whitemoney more than she lets on. And ever since it collapsed, she never been the same.

Maybe she thinks Pere trying to take advantage of the collapse, thats why she put him out cold.

Gbam.
I don't havd time to watch the show, but from the clip I watched here, Pere was behaving live an immature teenager. A matured man don't just "toast" a girl that way. You have not connected to her and you just pull her aside and belch "I like you and want a relationship with you". What did he expect her to say.

To woo a girl to must exhibit emotional intelligence, and not just rely on fine boyism. You must study her emotional needs and then fulfill them (either by pretense or real). Once you are able to connect emotionally, promise land is your destination.

Pierocash:
I can't count you how many times I had such encounters. Witchcraft is real.

I have fought a lot of spiritual battles which I won but not without a scratch. Anybody still fooling himself that this world is a natural existence is nothing but a dumb ass. Because even Aristotle,and Einstein knows that the world is controlled by spiritual forces.

All those forming intellectuals are nothing but dumbasses

You fought witches and demons spiritually and won without a stretch? That one no be witch anymore but whinsh.

Pierocash:
Yet you see some ignorant mofos in Nigeria calling Africa backward and believe in superstition. If you try to educate them about the existence of demons and witchcraft,they call you ignorant,yet they are the ignorant.

I tell people,there are witchcrafts and demons in the Western Countries same as it is in Africa

If all that demons and witches can do is just a few scratches on the thigh and pinning someone on a bed for a few minutes, then demons and witches are indeed very weak and powerless entities. A human is much more powerful. If it's a human that wants to deal with you while you are asleep, the injuries would be more than a few scratches or rashes, that is if you survived the attack.

Maybe there were more powerful demons and witches like Morgana in Merlin's era, but these modern ones are sissies.

FoolishBoy419:
I also stand by my claim that while child marriage is more common in the north, rape is more rampant in the south. I also have many relatives in the south and I've spent some years in Lagos and Rivers. That an "Adah Ogbe" wrote some paper doesn't change anything

I tend to disagree with you that rape is more rampant in the south. Why? Because the north is a very closed conservative society.
Rape cases are not and cannot be reported. It will impose a stigma on the girl and her family family for life. As a result there are no statistics whatsoever on rape cases in the north.

On second thought you might be right to some extent, because by the time a girl is 15, she most likely would have been married off. Meanwhile sex with a 15 year old in the south is regarded as statutory rape.

Why a full grown adult would want to marry a small girl less than 16 is beyond me. Outside tight pùssy ( sex),What else can she offer? I feel it's some kind of fetish.

benalvino3:
since no one is taking their words for it[color=#990000][/color] the best thing they could have done is to work hand in hand with CyberKunfu or whatever they call themselves. this behaviour we see from them is unprofessional.

That's why I suggest you guys should advocate for cyberKunfu to take over the running of elections in Arizona, at least in Maricopa County, since you guys take their word for it. They look and sound more professional.

benalvino3:
They keep saying all this as they resist state subpoena.

I think the Arizona State Senate should appoint Cyberninja as the election organizers for Arizona, since you guys don't trust the Maricopa County election officials. Not only that, you guys distrust the whole US electoral system, from the county officials to the state legislative and executive officials and up to the Supreme Court.

I think that until everything to do with elections in swing counties and states that Republicans lost is handled by officials appointed by Republican led Senate, it can never be accepted by Trump Republicans.

sweetjohn:
USA is extradicting someone from another country in his own country but Nigeria is Kidnapping her citizen from another person country. Stupid country! Why will other country respect you.

Nigeria govt = kidnappers

Key difference - Her citizen. Is Kyari a US citizen? I don't understand your comparism at all. You guys like to compare snake to eel. You think Nigerian government would have been able to kidnap Kanu the way it did if Kanu was a Kenyan citizen.

So you are advocating for the US to kidnap Kyari too and ship him to US for collecting bribe from another Nigerian citizen? The way you guys reason is incredible.

gstream:
FBI picked sepp blatter, Michael platini and others for crimes not committed on American soil. Can you how dense you and your ozekhome are?

And the US sent FBI to Switzerland, France and other countries to extradite Sapp Blatter and Michael platini?

limeta:
you remember Osama
you do anyhow you see any how

What about Osama? Osama was US number one enemy. Osama organized an attack on US soil that killed over 5000 Americans. The US invaded Afghanistan and the Taliban solely because they harboured Osama. The US were searching the whole world for Osama. Are you now equating Abba kyari with Osama?

limeta:
Nah nothing good comes out of the zoo
he is wanted in us
why is that hard for you to take in
omo crackhead

Because Nigeria is a sovereign country and Nigerians are not answerable to the US for crimes committed in the zoo. If the US really wants to help Nigerians fight corruption, it should furnish the Nigerian authorities with proof of the allegations against Kyari and pressure the Nigerian government to prosecute him in a Nigerian court.

The US would never allow other countries prosecute it's citizens for crimes committed in the US.

limeta:
what is this
let him go clear his name
giving us good people a bad name

Yes he needs to clear his name. In Nigeria and not in the US. If it was Qatar demanding his extradition, it might make sense.

IPIGSRDOTARDS:
Yes oh, like Nigeria picked up Namdiot coward Cownu the IPIG terrorist from Kenya.
Those are special cases, dealing with National security.
ABBA's case just like Allen Oyenma ate just fraud criminal cases, nothing extraordinary about them to warrant that kind of clandestine operations.
Some Nigerians are blowing up the Abba case much bigger than what it is. Allen Oyenma' s is much much worse but they are quite about that. Allen was personally indicted with bank and wire fraud.
Abba is only accused of facilitating and assisting in a fraud case which will be very hard to prove.

There is no proof in the indictment that Kyari facilitated anything. There is no evidence Kyari was even aware that there is a particular fraud case. He was only paid by Hushpuppi to deal with rival by locking him up. If you have your money, you can pay Police to do anything for you. It's standard practice.

guy222:
what is good for elzazaky should also be good for nnamdiot cownu and sunday igbohotolotolo, can nigeria ask the U.S to extradict their own citizen to Nigeria in order to answer for a crime? Can nigeria declear a U.S police or military who has never set foot in nigeria wanted? The answer is in your heart, you cant try this with Abacha, ghadafi, mugabe, idi amin, when u.s wanted to involve in ethopia tigray crisis, the president of ethopia told u.s and u.n that they would be serious repercussion if they involve themselves in ethopia internal affairs. Uptil now u.s and u.n could not do shit. Kyari is a Nigerian, he did not commit any crime in u.s soil. Extradicting kyari to u.s is going to be a serious slap on our entity and sovignity. Nigeria police or the psc should deal with kyari with their own set out rules and law. To hell with u.s

My Guy, ebi like say me and you dey see am the same way. I still never see the crime Kyari committed against America wey reach to extradite am go America without visa.

Walahi, me I no understand law o. Watin concern Abba Kyari with America? Him commit crime for America, or him dupe American?


From Watin I read from FBI, dem say him take bribe to from Hushpuppi to lock one Chibuzor because the guy wan spoil job for Hush. Dat one na news for Nigeria? Which Police officer no dey collect bribe from criminals in Nigeria? Even the IG self get those wey him dey collect bribe from.

Abeg make FBI free Kyari jor. How much you think say go enter Kyari pocket from the money sef. You think say na only him go chop Hush money? From the monI him go settle him boys and him go settle him superiors also. That the way things work in naija.

Whitecoal711:
They say an idle mind is the the devil workshop,
If you into something or working,you hardly think evil,but when you jobless hungry and idle their is high tendency for you going into crimes,but when you are employed busy and satisfy,low chance for you to indulge into anything crime,when one go into crime and get easy money,it lead into lavishly life easy come easy goes and hardly the invest the money and result into more and more crime,like the case of hush puppy

Now tell me is it joblessness and hunger that made most Nigerian politicians and civil servants corrupt?
Is it joblessness and hunger that made most nigerian workers and businessmen to cheat others?

Nigerians are naturally greedy and dishonest due to the get rich quickly culture being promoted by all facets of the society including our churches (and mosques), out traditional institutions and civil society as a whole.

Most companies are now getting the memo and are now hiring Indians, Chinese and Pakistanis to run their companies instead of Nigerians. If you like give a Nigerian N1 million a month as salary, he will still steal you blind and run your company down.

Corruption has little to do with poverty. In fact the poorest people in Nigeria are the most honest. I have heard many very poor people who found lost money and return it to their rightful owners.

DOTian:
In every students hostel anywhere in the world, there are rules..
This is blatantly obvious. You guys are just arguing for the sake of it..

No one is saying that every students hostel anywhere in the world has no rules. What I am saying is that such rules do not infringe the free movement of adults citizens just because they chose to be students,( by prohibiting them from leaving their hostels or campus grounds or prohibiting them from receiving visitors on campus grounds.), except in theocratic dictatorship regimes.

DOTian:
It's a university environment! It's not shariah..
There are led down rules and these banned already for undergraduates. We're talking of enforcement here..

Undergraduates are legal adults. You cannot restrict the movement of students in and out of campus. You cannot restricts adults from receiving guests in their hostels within campus or living quarters outside campus. There is freedom of movement, association and religion in the Nigerian constitution. Unless you want to convert Nigeria into a theocratic dictatorship, you cannot ban the movement or regulate the moral behaviour of citizens.

Monogamy:
There are so many flops in the documents released.

The many flops are only in your head. The FBI is not like the Nigerian Police that arrests suspects first and then go fishing for evidence. The FBI has gone to court and presented it's evidence and the US courts have issued an arrest warrant for Kyari having been convinced that he has some questions to answer.

To start with, if Hush puppy is accused of being a fraudster, that means he must have been lying to the people he has been collecting money from fraudulently.. Can't Hush lied in the statement he made to FBI?

Proper Police like the FBI don't just relying only on "confessions " like their Nigeria counterparts, the rely on evidence from thorough investigation. They have obtained phone records from Hushpuppi's phone, text and voice records from WhatsApp's server and other incriminating evidence before issuing a warrant of arrest.

Secondly, Which street guy/guy man would keep the records of such deal involving a policeman on his phone?

Whether the street guy keeps the records on his phone or not is irrelevant. The records are kept in with the phone company and on WhatsApp's server.

If the case that Kyari is being indicted involved $1.1m deal which Kyari was claimed to have received N8m equivalent to $20k, would Kyari have had prior knowledge about the money involved, and still collect $20k to be his share if he and Hush are working together, infact the amount was sent like 4 times to different account.

Is Hush being accused of only $1.1m deal or there are still more deals that involved others, cos the one Kyari was involved according to the statement which made him to detain/arrest hush old friend is $500k, that's one transaction..

I never said Kyari didn't have any deal with Hush, I never said Kyari never received money from Hush (Proofs only to argue on that)..

If Kyari received $20k out of $1.1m, how logical is it for him to be person of interest to FBI, oh he collaborate/facilitate with Hush, is Just being charged for only $1.1m deal?

Shun tantrums, quote only if you have answers to the questions

I think Kyari should hire you as his lawyer. You will be able to prove his innocent in court. I think you should advice Kyari to answer FBI and the US courts on why he detained a Hushpuppi's Co conspirator for a full month until the Qatari had been swindled of $1.1 million. Remember, the co-conspirator is still alive and will face Kyari in court.

Whitecoal711:
From your write up you knowledge enough for me to tutor you that the reason MOST PEOPLE indulges into crimes is as a result of hunger,some country don't have prison,some don't have soldier,why? Things are working fine in the country,

False. MOST PEOPLE do not indulge in crime because of hunger, but because of GREED. Are you telling me Hushpuppi engaged in crime because of hunger? Could he eat his expensive watches, cars and designer clothes he displays on instagram? Are you insinuating our politicians engage in stealing because of crime? Tinubu must be starving then.

DOTian:
Bia,
Every topic shouldn't be zombified!
It's the government's job to stop cultism in schools. Governments job to provide adequate conducive environment for learning within the campuses. Government can fight prostitution without mouthing off like parochial ullamahs and Alfas.... Last time I checked, nobody is against the government for this! Your god and personal savior Buhari is being heckled up and down because of his primitive and vindictive policies and not for fighting cultism, prostitution and drug abuse...
Get small sense, Biko..

Which government are you blaming for cultism in schools - Federal, state or Local government? What of parents, family and community? Should they also not take a portion of the blame for cultist in schools and society as a whole?

What do you want government to do to provide adequate conducive environment for learning within the campuses? Government appointed registrars, vice councillors and other academic and non academic staff for the universities? What do you want government to do to eliminate grades for sex or money?

Was it government that elevated prostitution in foreign countries to prestigious levels in Edo? So much so that parents borrow money and take loans to send their daughters to Italy?

Agreed that Buhari is bad, I would even say terrible. But did most of the problems the OP stated start with Buhari? Was it under Buhari that Nigerians started distracting all of us overseas?

Lukaku95:
you guys from the waste side are always obsessed with Igbos.. what about the Hush puppies and his brothers in all over UK and America. 90% of scammers arrested or named in America and UK are Yorubas. You didn't see that one ABI. ?

Quit this justification of crimes with whataboutism. The issue should whether his assertions are true or not, and how to resolve the issue. That 90% Yorubas in UK and America are scammers (according to your statistics) is not a justification of Igbos commiting crimes in UAE and all over Asia.

Whitecoal711:
Checked to balance,it still boils down to govt,not giving us the opportunity to strive,bad economy policies etc leads to all this

Its bad economic policies that makes young Nigeria's commit crimes like armed robbery, 419, drug crimes and prostitution in Dubai? Please explain.

NOETHNICITY:
Bro, not poverty, na moral bankruptcy

I no understand o. Na poverty of bad governance de make Nigerians misbehave for abroad? I really don't understand.

Pentagon007:
The problem lies with Nigeria as a country. No matter how hard you may try to disagree, one thing is obvious. A people coming from Deep abject poverty will care very little about Moral and laws when they see any slight opportunity they may exploit to better their situation. People will do this with absolute disregard for what ever you may think is right and moral. Poverty caused by Failed country system, is at the ROOT cause of the problem.

Is Nigeria the poorest country in the world?

When did deep abject poverty start Nigeria?
Was it in the 60s when we just gained independence? Was it in the 70s when General Gowan declared that Nigeria's problem was not money but how to spend it? Or was it in the 90s when $16 billion Gulf war oil windfall was no where to be found.

Poverty was never the root cause of Nigeria's problems and certainly not the root cause of our moral decay and decadence.

Balistic4:
absolving the government of the blames is actually not proper cause bad citizenship started from poor governance.

A case of "which came first, the egg or the chicken?"
Who responsible for Nigerians corruption - the citizens or the government?

I remember when academics were real deal in this country, people's mindset were mostly go to school, get good grades and get a job.

20th century mindset. In the 21st century, new economic system is to enable you create value and wealth and hence create jobs, and not to get grades to get a job.

How do you motivate a youth in the university to work hard and graduate with good grades when first class graduates are roaming about in the country with almost nothing to show for the burnt midnight candles?

A first class graduate roaming the country looking for job, means the knowledge and skills he acquired at the University is useless. There are millions of needs that is still left to be met and very few people to meet those needs. The first class graduate shouod study the lives of Alfred Nobel and Elon Musk.

All these crimes heightened due to bad governance, the people are to be blamed too but the government started it and they're fanning it.

Who are the government? Are they Martians or Siberians? Was it government that makes officials of your town union or development Association or even your street landlord association corrupt?

These are the best advice do far.

socialmediaman:
@MrOposter have you considered going to the court to order a DNA test? Get a lawyer and tell them the same story you told us, they should be able to help you

seborrhic:
As
If u are serious u can get a police consent or court order to carry out d test.In that case,she can't refuse bringing the child.IF YOU ARE SERIOUS of course.

Avoid the police as police will just extort both you and baby mama. And I don't think Police can force her to her to submit the baby to a paternity test.

Get a lawyer and sue her the nearest magistrate court for a paternity test. Depending on the lawyer, the whole case might cost you between N50,000 to N100,000.
If the test should prove negative, you can then sue for paternity fraud and a refund of your money spent including your legal fees.