₦airaland Forum

pafra:
When God called the pastor, did he calling him to winners?

He should go and prove his calling. It must not be in winners.

The aspects of money. Ask anyone that attends winner's they will nerve emphasis money.

Is the only church that don't put anyone under pressure to give.

If any church lack anything just apply once approved the money will be released.

Every winners church have monthly impress. It is sent at the beginning of every month.

All workers are under a central payroll. It is not the duty of the local assembly to raise funds in winner's.

It is a taboo for a local assembly to raise funds it is forbidden.

If the church wants to build church, school, land or any other project. It is not the responsibility of the local assembly no member of the church is under pressure to donate. The head quarters mobilize the contractor to site.

This church is just unique.

Winner's transfer pastor every 2 - 3 Years. It improves effectiveness. As for the pastor sack there is more to it

helpee:
You will need to answer this question first. Who employs the pastor? God or Oyedepo? If it is God, God will pay him since only God can appreciate whatever he does. Only God knows how many souls he saved in heaven. If you are now saying it was oyedepo that employed.. where do you expect oyedepo to get money to pay him? Since this is purely God's work, I expect you to condemn the pastor that was sacked not the one that sacked him..He expects another man to pay him for doing God's work. Does that makes any sense to you? Finally, you are asking me for a quotation about pastors in the Bible....There were no pastors per see in the Bible. There were priests.....and they were paid from the tithes by members of the congregation not by salary from a senior pastor. Even in the New testament.....the members brought everything they had to the church so it was shared. Bottom line is that it is not possible to pay or feed a pastor according to the Bible without members. Now that the church is empty...why should the pastor be paid by a senior pastor? Show me a reference in the Bible where it was the senior pastor that was paying salary to the junior pastor heading empty churches? Oyedepo did not sack him from church ..he only sacked him from collecting salary and since we are all doing this for God and not money, the pastor shouldn't be complaining

ubola:
I personally don't pay my employees for unproductivity. Where will the GO pay him from. The Pastor has to work for his pay.

MT:
I don't know the pastor. I am only pointing out the deceit in church and how you guys have upended the word of God.

A soul that gives his life to Christ has no meaning to you again because it's all about the money. You will rather have a church filled with unbelievers. I repeat, there is so much celebrations among Angels in heaven over just ONE soul that gives his life to Christ.

MT:
I lost interest in most of the Nigeria pastors, especially David Oyedepo. Check all his antics in the past, he is so arrogant, and he behaves as if he is above the law.

One thing that constantly surprises me is that, once a father becomes the head of the church in Nigeria, God must call his children and wife by default. Go and check where all their children are pastoring, if not a very well established church in a posh zone in Nigeria, it will be in the western world like the US, UK.

Oyedepo should put his son Muyiwa Oyedepo, who he has positioned to take over his church after his demise, in any of these church branches where these pastors were sacked and let us see the magic he will use to pull crowd. So much for God of men parading as men of God.

fof1:
Hold on to ur Believe and avoid Jesus Christ to ur Peril and Eternal Regret.

rhektor:
Did you ignore the eye witnesses and servants of the.... in your criticism?

Jeromejnr:
Mr way more educated and older than me.

I don't have time to type much.

But from all you wrote up there. ..its obvious you are just one of those unenlightened folks that claim knowledgeble online but in reality they are ....(you complete that). All these people that will just sit down in their house and be typing like they have knowledge about a certain topic.

I will just refer you to the Roman "Tacitus" who wrote on Christ. And Jews like "Tosefta" who wrote on Jesus. or the Talmud that was written by Jews.

See how you are so confident in your ignorant replies.

Instead of spending your time on Twitter reading savage replies and gossiping about who is spending money, why don't you visit educational sites like "bc.edu" to keep up with intellectuals? That's my advice for you.

I would rather spend more time talking with more educated folks.

Ciao.

But all human efforts, all the lavish gifts of the emperor, and the propitiations of the gods, did not banish the sinister belief that the conflagration was the result of an order. Consequently, to get rid of the report, Nero fastened the guilt and inflicted the most exquisite tortures on a class hated for their abominations . , called Christians by the populace . Christus, from whom the name had its origin, suffered the extreme penalty during the reign of Tiberius at the hands of one of our procurators, Pontius Pilatus, and a most mischievous superstition. thus checked for the moment, again broke out not only in Judæa, the first source of the evil, but even in Rome, where all things hideous and shameful from every part of the world find their centre and become popular. Accordingly, an arrest was first made of all who pleaded guilty; then, upon their information, an immense multitude was convicted, not so much of the crime of firing the city, as of hatred against mankind.

rhektor:

You just have to lie about Theophilus lmao.


In my former book, Theophilus, I wrote about all that Jesus began to do and to teach NIT

In my first book I told you, Theophilus, about everything Jesus began to do and teach NLT
In the first book, O Theophilus, I have dealt with all that Jesus began to do and teach ESV
Acts 1:1

Written for/to Theophilus does not mean written by Theophilus
Abdool please use your head sir

Jeromejnr:
You are just shooting yourself in the foot.

Joan of Arc was part of French history, how, because they told you?

Was Yeshua not part of Jewish history ? Though many them don't see him as the Messiah. Didn't their Rabbi's write about him?

Romans also wrote about Jesus the miracle worker who had followers.

As for Copernicus, who told you he was the one who wrote the book?

So all the various writings from different disciples that wrote about Jesus over different years, they are not worthy to be considered?

Good thing you said you know nothing of history. Because you don't.

We would rather listen to the expert historians. Not one Mowe guy that is forming intellectual.

All these Nairaland kids sef.

musicwriter:
Sorry, the ancient Egyptians had no record of a Moses or people called Israelis who were chased and passed through a divided red sea. If there were, kindly provide me historical details from ancient Egyptians records.

No record whatsoever in their heiroglyphs for a whole Egyptian army drowning in the red sea or the seven plagues, or even the Israelites ever being held captive in Egypt.

Jeromejnr:
You are not smart at all. You assume you are.

There are no bust and coins for Joan of Arc, Copernicus, The Macabees, Ephiphnes, King xerxes e.t.c yet various people at those times write about these people.

Just say you dont like the narrative. And stop spewing ignorance you think is called knowledge.

Jeromejnr:
Its now not what I heard abi from historians because it doesn't suit your narrative.

But if they said Mohammed existed or Julius Ceaser or a dinosaur is 1 billion years old, then it is automatically true.

It may even have been the city council building, where important dignitaries were received before entering the Temple compound and the Temple Mount.

Visitors to the site can now envisage the opulence of the place: the two side chambers served as ornate reception rooms and between them was a magnificent fountain with water gushing out.

“We believe that the guest rooms, which were also used for dining, contained wooden reclining sofas that have not been preserved.”

On these sofas, guests would have reclined as they feasted, following the custom of the Romans and the Greeks before them.

Ojiofor:
And you think Zik didn't have what it takes to know whether Sarduana was lying or not?
You think the decision with whom to form a coalition government was made in a day?
Awo was also angling to become VP to Sarduana and only sent delegates to the East to deceive Zik and Zik didn't fall to it according to this report.

Ovamboland:
What if Sardauna was second guessing Zik who naively fell for the trap. Is this worth throwing away executive powers away for a ceremonial post?

Check am now.

Who will throw away opportunity to be president in Nigeria today to settle for VP or Senate president?

Ojiofor:
The event did not happen in 2019 or did it?

Ojiofor:
Did Awolowo deny it?
If he did I will like to read about it.

basilico:
I have posted link quoting the mrna inventor who would know better than Faucci about long term effects . We don't know what will happen, neither has Ben said with certainty what will happen in 2-5 years.

IThe vaccines injects the virus in your body znd your body produces antibodies . Quantity of antibodies produced , I think might be the ones causing deaths.

https://greatreject.org/corona-vaccine-deaths-overview/

basilico:
As of today more people have died during trials than all other vaccines combined.



https://news.yahoo.com/single-most-qualified-mrna-expert-173600060.html

"A Norwegian study conducted of 100 nursing home residents who died after receiving Pfizer's corona shots. They found that at least 10 of those deaths were likely caused by the vaccine. 10%," Carlson said.

benalvino3:
You simply have no clue of what we are talking about.

basilico:
The vaccine is an Emergency Use Authorization.
The inventor of mRNA vax..
use Google to find out what his thoughts are.

benalvino3:
You take the vaccine and died 2 to 5 years later or you don't take the vac and risk catching covid. You can't blame either side.

Ojiofor:
We have Read from Lagos/Ibadan express way propaganda media,now let us read from an unbiased account from the other side.


The second account reflects the inability of Dr. Azikiwe and Chief Awolowo to reach a common ground at the critical moment so that one of them would become Prime Minister instead of Alhaji Balewa. Azikiwe had been blamed particularly by loyalists of Awolowo for preferring to align with NPC rather than with the AG. In my opinion, that is partially correct, which is probably an unfortunate outcome of the disappointment felt by NCNC leaders as a result of the carpet crossing episode of 1952. However, Chief Mbazulike Amaechi, a diehard supporter of Dr. Azikiwe, presented a different perspective on the issue about eight years ago.
According to Chief Amaechi, after the 1959 election when it became obvious that a coalition government must be formed to take over from the departing British colonialists, a delegation from the AG went to discuss the matter with NCNC leaders in Azikiwe’s Onitsha residence. It proposed that both parties should form an alliance such that Azikiwe would become Prime Minister while Awolowo would serve as the finance minister. While the discussion was on, Azikiwe went upstairs to answer a telephone call. Upon his return, Azikiwe told the AG delegation that the NCNC would consider AG’s proposal and send a delegation back to Chief Awolowo.

When the AG delegation left, Dr. Azikiwe informed the NCNC leaders present that the telephone call he went to answer was from the Sardauna of Sokoto and that the Sardauna had informed him of a delegation from Chief Awolowo which visited him offering NPC precisely what the other delegation that just left them offered their own party, the NCNC. Probably concluding that AG is a double-headed snake, Dr. Azikiwe decided to negotiate with the Sardauna.

During the negotiation, Ahmadu Bello insisted that the north should produce the Prime Minister, otherwise they were not ready for independence. In the agreement to end British colonial rule signed at Lancaster House, it was agreed that if any region said it was not ready for independence, the process will be postponed until all regions were willing to go ahead. According to Chief Amaechi, northern leaders took advantage of that agreement. Dr. Azikiwe and top leaders of the NCNC reasoned that having fought and sacrificed so much for political freedom, it was preferable to allow the north produce the first Prime Minister so that independence would be attained as soon as possible.
Read more at: https://www.vanguardngr.com/2018/08/the-problem-of-retrogressive-politics-in-nigeria-4/
cc:Iampatriotic

Zik and NCNC leadership was dealing with a double headed snake and a chameleon.

LebenNG:
whats the difference between six and half a dozen... if you truly love aomeone you stick to them no matter what, igboho would not have been seen, heard and cheered... stop sugar coating.

In the security circle, a person whose name is on the stop-list is denied all constitutional rights and privileges a citizen is entitled to.

LebenNG:
Actually its not hate because yorubas too are canvassing for secession can you now say its hate for igbos and hausas... besides what the heck are you scared about?

LebenNG:
Biafra materialising should be igbo concerns irrespective of whatever... i don't see how its headache to you non-stakeholders.

Sureguy4life:
Bet9ja disabled my account without any reason.

I recently opened bet9ja account.

Funded the account consecutively but have not gotten a sure game to play so I withdrew the money to my bank account.

This happened 3 times.

And on the fourth one when I withdrew the money I received a message that my withdrawal has been placed successfully. This time the money is 12k

But after, that day I didn't receive the money so I tried logging in again and I saw that my account has been disabled.

I contacted their support team and they request for my identity and means of deposit.
I sent everything then they said it'll be up to 3 days before they can resolve everything.

On the third day I messaged them and they replied that the account has been disabled permanently.

Then I asked about my last withdrawal and they kept mute and no longer reply my messages.

I just need my 12k if they are disabling the account they can carry on, though I planed to play game but not when I have urgent need I'll go and play games with my money.


Also I have read their terms of service and couldn't see anyhow I violated it. Even if I violate my capital should not be forfeited to them.


Please if you can assist me on what to do to let bet9ja pay me my money I'll be glad.

If they are worried because I have not been playing games then, but they never gave me any warning messages.

EmmanuelScott1:
Just STFU, nah only igbos dey do juju?

Lifestone:
You guys better face reality and solve this problem. Igbo killing Igbo is no gain to the Igbos

BlueSprint:
Igbos killing igbos.What a shame