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basilico:You can. South Americans tribes were "civilized" against their will. Even the Igbos were "civilized" against their will (read Chinua Achebe's Things Fall Apart. It only times time, re-education and some degree of force. |
basilico:As I said apart from your deitification of Trump and ready to defend any word he utters as divine truth, we agree on most other issues. I have hated Trump since the early 90s. While at school a fellow room mate loved Trump so much he gave me his book "The Art of The Deal" after reading it dislike the personality he displayed in the book. I saw him as someone who believes in using dishonest mean to achieve his goals. I followed him since then. So i am not like most cult worshippers who only started following Trump after he declared his intention to run for presidency. If it was China that invaded Afghanistan, I am sure by now most Afghans would be speaking Mandarin, and in about 50 years, most wpuld have converted to atheism. That was also how ancient Rome invaded and conquered other people. They not only conquered the land, they also conquered the mind - language, culture and religion. You automatically became a Roman. Britain also employed the same principle to expand their empire. Once they conquer you, you become English pledging allegiance to the Queen/King. The US should have learnt how to completely conquer people - land, mind and soul before embarking on a military invasion. |
basilico:That's a business between Qatar and Saudi Arabia deal and not a peace deal. Besides there were no hostilities or conflict between Qatar and Saudi. |
MaziAlaye:Anyone can nominate any other person for Nobel Peace Prize. Tens of people are nominated every year, it doesn't mean Jack. Now can I see details of the peace deal. |
MaziAlaye:The was no middle east peace deal. What there was was middle east business deal. If the "Orange" man proposed any middle east peace deal involving the main participants in the middle east conflict, please share it with us. |
PrideofLincoln1:I vehemently disagree with you. The Afghan debacle is one of the greatest failures in US foreign policy. Just like in Iraq, the US went into Afghanistan without any clear objective or agenda outside getting Osama bin Laden for the 911 attack. No long time strategy. The US should have lead her allies for have a longer presence in Afghanistan - maybe 50 years or beyond, until the present generation of die hard Islamic fundamentalists die out. The British were in Nigeria and Ghana for close to 100 years. You cannot significantly change the mindset of a people in 20 years. In 20 years, the $2 trillion and 2,500 dead would pale into insignificance when compared with the havoc an Islamic fundamentalist Taliban can wreck on US and it's allies, along with their interests. On geo-political strategic levels the Afghanistan withdrawal was a disaster. Afghanistan is situated mid way between Russia, China and Iran. A strong US presence there would have been a very stategic position. Now I am sure China would rush in and create an alliance with the Taliban. The incoming Taliban government would need money to run its government and China is always willing to loan rogue governments money - with conditions attached. Imagine the anti west alliance of China, Russia, Iran and now Afghanistan. It would be more difficult to rein in Iran. Throughout history, countries invade other countries for exploitation or for strategic reason most times at huge financial and human costs. The did not exploit its advantageous positions in all its military adventures. They are too impatient and usually give up after a couple of decades. We all now know that the best way to defeat the US military is just hold out for 1 or 2 decades and they will run off with their tails between their legs. |
Pelecius:Gbam! That's is a truism that can only be revealed through attaining Buddhahood - enlightenment. The universe just is. It does not care about anyone or anything. It just trod along according to its own dictates. That the universe revolves around a single puny individual on a puny village in a puny planet revolving around a puny sun in a puny galaxy is the epitome of egocentricism. The secret to success is to tune in and flow with the ebb and flow of the Universe.
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LordReed:Also look into the implications of saying "Christianity permits incestuous rape", in relation to lots daughters getting their father drunk, raped him and got pregnant for him, all without his consent. While at it, look into the implications of the bible supporting scam/419/yahoo yahoo, in relation to Jacob scamming their father Israel to steal Esau's birthright. Maybe that's where Hushpuppi got the inspiration to use deceit to steal millions of dollars from people. |
As I always say to those who have broken free of the shackles of religion - WELCOME TO THE REAL WORLD. indadi:Prayer is a very useful tool for achieving whatever goals you set for yourself. The problem is that the Muslim prayer and current Christian prayer is antithetical to personal and even spiritual growth. It mainly consists of noise and useless mantra only designed to make adherents more susceptible to hypnosis and subconscious manipulations. Real spiritually abhors noise and emphasizes quiet contemplation and meditation. Learn the art of meditation, contemplation and imagination. With these you can reach the stars. When I think about a lot of things I have read and what I have experienced I feel like I have always been deceived all my life.Christianity and Islam thrives on deceit and threats (and sometimes physical violence) to get converts and keep them in line. They employ the concept of stick and carrot. One thing I learnt lately was that the concept of heaven or paradise was created to make people lose the natural fear of death when going into battle. If the person going into battle believes he will enjoy his wildest fantasies if he dies for the cause - unlimited virgins in the case of Muslims and unlimited material things in the case of christisns. He will gladly take a sword or bullet or even a bomb while smiling. I currently live with them though I plan on moving to my own place by the end of this year or early next year.No need to tell your dad anything. What's the point? You will only make him sad and it might strain your relationship. Just say you have heard when ever he preaches and continue with your life. He will eventually get it that you don't care after a while. You are even lucky he is a Christian, if he were a fundamentalist Muslim, he will be obligated to put an end to your life in the service of Allah. So no need to rock the boat. You achieve nothing. |
LordReed:Don't mind him. how many atheists have been caught stealing in Nigeria? 99.4% of Nigerians are either Christain or Muslim and yet the country is one of the most poor, corrupt and morally bankrupt countries in the world. Meanwhile, 90% of Chinese consider themselves atheist and the country is one of the most prosperous, less corrupt and moral countries in the world. |
Enjoyed reading through this 9 year old thread. It's brought back nostalgia of when nairaland had very intellectually stimulating debates from very cerebral members, especially in the religious section. I truly miss those days. |
Pat081:Typical excuse of a black man " the devil made me do it". I am sure this father will blame the devil if he is caught red handed raping his daughter. Christianity and Islam has the devil as the fall guy for all their horrific crimes and actions. In the end they will "confess their sins and give their life to christ" and voila, their conscience is whipped clean. No responsibility, no consequences and no karma for their sins. |
Image123:You lie, bare face. Yes i started out here in the religious section, and I agree I was notorious according to you, but to try to convince people on why they should not be religious? NEVER. Then I was passionate about correcting all scientific falsehood you guys propagate. I found peace in myself. I don't need to convince anyone on my beliefs or lack of thereof to find peace. Instead it allowed me to expand my mind to accommodate everybody and accept them on the basis of who they really are and not on what the portend to believe. I have muslim friends and staff, pentecostal Christian friends and staff, a strong traditionalist as a good friend, etc. |
Image123:You are just confusing and conflating issues in order to justify your depraved view that the 17 year old has some blame in her rape by her father. Yes when an adult have sex with a minor - whether consensual or not, it is considered rape. Then the rape was by her father who should be her most trusted authority on this earth. That you even suggested that the man was tempted to rape his minor daughter because she did not sleep well or sit appropriately is the height of depravity. In most homes, adult girls walk around the house in only wrapper or towel when around only close family members like their father, brothers or even uncle (I advice against this nowadays). I am still trying to figure out why you think a man should ever be sexually attractive to his daughter even if she is stark naked. Not just I but many people here find it repugnant. You seem to project all men as sexual perverts who get aroused by every woman they see, be it daughters, sisters, family relations, and even mothers. You fail to acknowledge that most African families prior to westernisation and urbanisation lived in large family units all crammed in one or few rooms, mostly semi naked, and men were not raping their daughers or other family members. I hope you are not projecting your personal experience on everyone else. |
In addition, I think it's the introduction of Christianity and Islam to Black Africans that also brought with it incest. Before the introductions of these religions, incest was virtually unheard of, it was a taboo of great magnitude. Cousins were not allowed to marry or have sex no matter how many times removed. Even then the ladies were walking around topless. Now, some people are condoning fathers having sex with daughters because she was sleeping carelessly. |
Image123:To me, there is no difference between a 17 year old and and 8 year old in terms of sex. I could never have sex nor support any full grown adult to have sex with any girl less than 18 years. R Kelly is serving jail time for having sex with 15 year olds. |
Image123:I just don't get the crazy mind set of the average fundamental Christian (and Muslim) that you must impose your beliefs on others by any means necessary. Why should I convince my wife or any other person that God doesn't exist?. To me God is a very personal concept. Even my children I don't try to preach to them. My daughter loves bible stories and pray with my mum everyday. My sons are a bit apathetic to religion like me, but they are forced to join the morning devotion by my mum. It reminds me of my own childhood where I was literally forced to attend morning devotion everyday until I went of to the university. |
Lollittaa:Don't mind the pervert. My 8 year old daughter comes and sleep in my bed whenever my wife goes to her monthly Friday night vigils. She has her own room but prefers to sleep on our bed. We only allow her sleep with us when she is sick. Other times we drive her to her room. Having a hard on because your daughter sleeps on your bed is the worse evil I can think of. Mind you, many families live in one room or room and parlour apartments. It means that when ever everyone is out of the house leaving the father with the daughter alone, he will start having a hard on (according to the perverts). |
Image123:Even though I still don't get the point in relation to this story, I can tell you that any parent that leaves an 11 year old girl and a 7 year old boy home alone in a civilized siciety will have a lot of explaining to do to social services. The parents might lose the children on charges of negligence. |
Lollittaa:You know see why I left Christianity and religion all together. I saw that religion kills conscience and distorts the difference between right and wrong, replacing it with doctrine. |
Image123:You are a real pervert. I will be afraid to leave any teenage 20ft near you alone. In most African societies up till about 60 years ago, teenage girls walk around topless, it never entered their fathers mind (or any other male member of the society for that matter) to rape them. While I was schooling in Sokoto, just 30 years ago, there was a village a just a couple of km from the school, where the girls walked around topless. The was never a case of rape recorded. So looking at your daughter dressing or lying carelessly, and you will have a hard on. Grose. |
Image123:I am still confused at the sense in what you wrote to the topic at hand. Are you saying it is the responsibility of the 17 year old to stop her father from raping her or she was irresponsible for reporting to the mother? Please explain the girls irresponsibly in this case. I was not an angel at 17 but I would find my mother having sex with me very traumatic. Maybe you are insinuating the 17 year old should runaway from home and start fending for herself because you and your sister were fending for yourself at 11. |
Image123:What difference does it make if it's a 6 year old or a 17 year old? According to the law, they are both minors. But that's even besides the point. He is her father for God sake. A person that raised her from birth. A person that bath her till she became a pre teen. A person she trust with her life and existence. Abeg what responsibility or blame the 17 year old daughter? What responsibly do you assign to the wife? Are you insinuating the wife was irresponsible for leaving their daughter with her father? I am trying to understand your logic. That your patents neglected you and your 11 year old sister to fend for yourselves does has no relationship whatsoever with people who are sexually abused by their parents. I just don't get the connection. |
Akakanfirstclass:Very wrong and warped logic. If the elders should flog him without going through the legal process, the man can sue the so called elders for assault and libel. With what evidence will they convict and punishing him with? The elders can't replace a court of competent jurisdiction in modern Nigeria. If it was another person's daughter he raped, he will go to jail. A few lashes of the cane will not deter a criminal from further committing the crime. It will further harden him. If you have dealth with stubborn tenage children, you will understand. |
Pharaoh4rin:This practice was responsible for the the demise of the 18th dynasty of Egyptian monarchy. Any animal that engage in incest will quickly die out due to genetic defects. |
themosthigh:With what evidence? The father would swear with his life that the mother and daughter are ganging up against him. He will simply refer to either the daughter or wife or even both as witches out to destroy his destiny, and that would be the end of it. The man will simply get home and send both mother and daughter packing. You should advice the brothers wife to go the Princess way (aka baba Ijesha) way. She should get a hidden camera (those one that with infrared) and install it in the daughters room. The next time he tries to rape his daughter, it will all be on camera. Then she can report to any human rights organization. I don't trust the Nigerian Police. They go with the highest bidder. |
mrvitalis:Bayelsa Gross allocation for the month of February 2021 was N8,730,011,019.37. - (see the image below) So if we average that for the year, that works out at about N105 billion for the 12 months of the year. Meanwhile..... The total budget for the 2021 fiscal year by the Bayelsa State Government is N290.2 billion, divided into N66,646,082,751 personnel, N80,017,254,683 capital and N66,185,336,658 overhead costs. - https://www.google.com/amp/s/businessday.ng/news/article/diri-proposes-n290-2bn-budget-for-bayelsa-in-2021/amp/ You and I know that overhead and personel costs can never be touched, so if you add the personnel and over head costs which totals N132,831,419,409, you have nothing left for capital projects. In fact you have a deficit of about N27 billion just to meet up with personnel and overhead costs. And this is the situation for the state with the 4th highest allocation in Nigeria and with the smallest population. Imagine the situation for states with far lower allocations and higher population at the same time. That most Nigerians are oblivious of the fact that we are in dire economic straits is amazing.
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The OP is just trying to be mischievous. This class room in fact is a very high quality class room - finished with ceramic tiles, iron windows and doors and roofed with aluminum sheets. Even the ceiling is being done with POP sheets. The classroom is painted. The only problem is that the ceiling is not yet finished and the furniture (desk and chairs) is inadequate to cater for the student population. Now let him show us a corresponding government school in his state. Mind you, I am not exonorating the state government of incompetence and maladminstration, I am saying that this is a poor example of such. |
Beancounter94:Which 2.4 million barrels per day (mbpd)? We love deceiving ourselves. That was figures from 2 to 3 years ago. Nigeria's oil production in the last one year hovers around 1.4 mbpd. Production of crude oil including lease condensateThats why I cringe when people say "Nigeria get money". I ask how much money Nigeria get? We are one of the poorest nations in the world in terms of per capita income. |
biosystech:I don't doubt that he is a husler, but this particular story get as e be. It just doesn't make sense and it too scanty of details. “What he does is that: he fries it, and then he’ll use my face to sell it to the UNILAG (University of Lagos) girls. They’ll come and buy puff puff. Very sweet puff puff.”Why will his Ghanaian friend use his face to sell puff puff to Unilag girls? Was he famous that Unilag girls know his face? What was his contributions and reward from the puff puff business. He was not the one making the puff puff and he was not even the one selling the puff puff. I think this is a subliminal message to marketers that his face can sell their products in case he goes home next Sunday. |
CodeTemplar:Nigeria's problem is not the sultan and people who think like him, it is political arrangement that takes land away from the original owners and hand it over to the state and federal governments. The land use act of 1978 effectively killed agriculture. People usually have emotional attachment to their ancestral lands and when that attachment was taken away by the land use act, why should people invest their money and emotions in the land. I am talking large scale agriculture. If you go to the Americas and Europe, you will see families that have owned and cultivated a particular crop for hundreds of years. Here in Nigeria you are only allowed to lease your land from the state government for 99 years, and if by a stint of God's blessings anything valuable is found on your land, the federal government can come in and completely take the land. Also if the land is the exclusive property of a family or community, the land itself can be used as a collateral to receive huge loans from banks and financial institutions. But as it is cannot be used to obtain long term loans. A C of O only means you have possession of the land for a limited period of time. |
basilico:Nice question. You can have quite interesting conversations once you get your head out of Trump's ass. Just like an intellectual religious fanatic. You can engage in very thought provoking conversations until you talk about his religious beliefs. He then throws all reason out of the window. Sorry for the banter.... Now my view on your brilliant question. I think electric motor will take over from internal combustion engine in small and medium size vehicles like bikes, tricycles and small saloon cars, because the power requirements to run small motors are not much. But for huge vehicles like trailers, busses and big cars, internal combustion engine will continue to rule for a long time. Huge battery banks can be complicated and dangerous, and begins to add significant weight to the vehicle itself. I have always wondered why we don't start experimenting with building electric keke Marwa/NAPEP, as it is a small light weight vehicle used for short distance transportation. Their garage can also serve as a charging stating. If it's not that I am under extreme stress with the pressures of family and business this is something i would love to experiment with. |
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