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Butoneday2:Why did Biafran governors scrap history from their state curriculum? Don't they want this generation of Biafrans to know the exploits of Biafrans during the civil war? |
Wallade:And how did the quarantine of citizens help slow or stop the virus from devastating those countries? Then how will the government quarantine all citizens (what about non citizens?), coming into the country when there was no quarantine facilities in place. Will the government use a magic wand, and abracadabra, huge quarantine facilities with equipments and test kits will appear? |
SmartyPants:So which country do you think took the kinds of measures you advocate to stem the inflow of the virus into their country? Which country do you suggest we emulate? Nigeria cannot just shut his borders too early to all incoming traffic. Stopping flight from China did not work as Trump found out. The virus could come from any country, even before it reaches epidemic levels in that country. If Buhari stopped all flights to Nigeria the very week the outbreak started in Wuhan, the regular wailers would have wailed endlessly on how Nigeria did not close the borders during SARS in 2003. Beef NCDC capacity? How? This is a virus we knew very little about and the world had very little ideas of its properties. |
NaijaRoyalty:Even if we conceded to your unverified figure of 10,000, what of deaths from the virus? With a fatality rate of 2%, we would have expected 200 deaths from coronavirus alone in Lagos State, but we have 2. What does that tell you? |
Faber:Which government scrapped history from our school curriculum? You mean you searched for history in WAEC, NECO and JAMB syllabus, and you did not find it? Maybe you wanted to take history as a subject in your Senior Secondary School and it was not available. That would be the fault of your school and not WAEC or JAMB. It's state ministry of education that determines the curriculum of secondary schools in the states, except for unity schools, so if history is not in your states curriculum, hold your governor responsible. |
iPOOPinURmouth:My people still think USA is equivalent to heaven. USA is simply living on past glory, it's a falling empire, just like other empires before it. The new rising economic power is south East Asia, particularly China. Of the top ten banks in the world, 4 are Chinese, 4 are US, one is UK and one is Japanese. The 4 Chinese are the top 4 banks - https://www.google.com/amp/s/markets.businessinsider.com/amp/news/top-10-banks-in-the-world-2019-2019-7-1028330545 For the first time in history, China has more companies on the fortune global 500 companies than the US - https://amp.scmp.com/business/companies/article/3019632/first-china-has-more-companies-fortune-global-500-list-us and the gap is set to widen further in the coming years. The US shot itself in the foot, by alienating it's traditional trade and military allies, and taking on China alone. |
kokaneprodigy:You mean Trump did not have experts to tell him that the population of Seoul is roughly 10 million, but he has experts that told him chloroquine cures coronavirus? If Buhari makes half of Trump's gaffes, you guys will not let us hear word again. Ordinary calling covid 19 covik 1-9, you people did not let us rest on social media. |
kokaneprodigy:The same Trump that did a Google search of Seoul and saw elevation - 38m, and immediately went on to announce on national TV, that he knows south korea better than anybody and that the population of Seoul is 38million https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DA9P7n6P-ss Trump behaves and talks like a semi illiterate
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Although your conspiracy theory sounds outlandish and outrageous, even if it's true, Trump is still to blame. Obama left an agent embedded inside the Chinese Center for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), to monitor any virus outbreak from China. Trump removed the agents just 6 months before the virus hit. If the agent was still there, Trump would have gotten first hand intelligence on whatever was going on in China and acted before it got put of hand. You mean Nancy Pelosi and the Democrats would conspire with China to import a virus into the US that could possibly kill Nancy Pelosi herself, her family and other Democrats, just to spite Trump? I forgot to add; Right after the first case of coronavirus was reported in the US on January 21, Chuck Schumer called on Trump to immediately declare a state of emergency to prevent any outbreak in the US, what did your God do? Nothing. Schumer calls on feds to declare coronavirus outbreak a public health emergency; - January 26, 2020 |These are the Democrats that conspired with China to kill Americans |
MrCEO69:Are you aware that chloroquine was banned for treatment of malaria by WHO since 2002. Most countriesof the world including Nigeria had banned the use of chloroquine as treatment for malaria. Before now, I could get the full treatment (intravenously ) in only a few places and it was expensive. No doctor would prescribe chloroquine. |
Cypron:Any you think a honourable commissioner of police can override the command of the commander of chief. |
Zuorom:The media cannot suppress anything. There are scientists that are specialised in the field, such as Micro biologists, virologists, epidemiologists, etc. They research claims and come out with their findings, which will help others in the medical profession cure their patients. Coronaviruses had been with us for millenia, and will continue to be with us for millenia more. If a simple drug like chloroquine was the cure, believe, that would have been discovered before even it's use for malaria. It will not take a messiah in the mold of Trump to give us the revelation. I have always said that there is a world wide medical scam in common flu and coronaviruses in general. The pharmaceuticals are raking in billions to sell a cure for a disease we all know is incurable. They sell all sorts of miracle cure for the common Cold, which a few days rest and immune boosting supplements will cure. I stopped buying all these rubbish over 20 years ago, eg actifed, procold, and lots more I can't remember now. They are all useless. Common Cold (flu) will kill those it will kill, but majority will survive it and move on, until the next infection. Same with covid19. |
Zuorom:Even at 78 out of 80, that's 2.5% fatality rate, which is well within the average. You guys behave as Trump's words equate to the koran and his worshippers must defend it with their lives. This is what the link said; Also, the U.S.FDA has acted fast to make the unproven treatment available to thousands of COVID-19 patients in New York, despite the fact the following facts:Even UK is weary of using the untested drug on its own citizens; In the U.K., the government has prohibited the use of chloroquine outside of the trial but that position is now probably untenable since they have to explain why they aren’t providing treatment as France |
kokaneprodigy:Are you autistic or just pretending to be? FDA and all medical professionals have stressed that "there are no vaccines or cure for coronavirus as of today", so where did you get the false information that 4 out of 5 patients were successfully treated with chloroquine in France. If it was true France will blow her own trumpet and not wait for Trump or you to blow it for them. Coronavirus virus has a fatality rate of between 2 - 4%, so 4 out of 5 patients recovering is even above the fatality rate (assuming 1 out of every patient dies (that's an astounding 20% fatality rate). Most people that survived the coronavirus, did without taking any drug, except palliatives to alleviate symptoms and rest. So even if you take chloroquine, agbo, paracetamol or chalk, the fatality rate would not change from the traditional 2 - 4%. I even think chloroquine will worsen the fatality rate, due to adverse side effects of the drug, especially on people who had never taken it. |
Zuorom:Which doctor is reported to have prescribed chloroquine or quinine for a coronavirus? Since we have been having coronaviruses, no doctor had every prescribed chloroquine or hydroxychloroquine for its cure. I have been taking chloroquine and sometimes Quinine all my life as I am very susceptible to malaria. Any doctor will tell you that Quinine should be taken with caution, as it causes heart pulpertations. It can be very dangerous for people with heart problem or hypertension. Even me with a very good heart with no hypertension, when my doctor puts me on quinine, he makes sure he monitors my heart beat and pressure closely, not to talk of people with weak hearts. Trump and his supporters prescribing drugs they know nothing about will kill more people that would have died from coronavirus. Coronavirus itself if not that fatal, it's fatality rate is between 2 -4% (with the exception of Northern Italy where other factors caused a relatively higher fatality rate). |
klas:Then why bring it to front page on nairaland now? It will confuse lots of people. |
abdullkabar:It has antiviral effects and we are just finding out about it? It has antiviral effects and millions of people had died of HIV /AIDS over the decades? It has antiviral effects and people spend millions on HIV anti retroviral drugs? It just doesn't make sense. |
False information. Oga seun close this thread as it is very misleading, and might make people go out and be harmed by security forces. The commander in chief of the Nigerian armed forces gave an order, and someone is talking about the views of the spokesman of the Lagos State Police command. Besides, this advice was given during the movement restrictions imposed by the Lagos State Government, before the total lock down by the Federal government. If in doubt read numbers 34 to 36 of the president's soeech; 34. Based on the advice of the Federal Ministry of Health and the NCDC, I am directing the cessation of all movements in Lagos and the FCT for an initial period of 14 days with effect from 11pm on Monday, 30th March 2020. This restriction will also apply to Ogun State due to its close proximity to Lagos and the high traffic between the two States.Read again " heads of security and intelligence agencies have also been briefed". Challenged the army at your own risk. They would use you to do "for example" and we all will learn from your experience. |
More on Dr. President Donald Trump's claims; New study casts doubt on hyrdoxychloroquine’s effectiveness in treating coronavirus |
stanech:I already analysed the claims of that link to show how stupid it looked, besides I did not see any advice to Donald Trump there. In case you missed it, here it is once more; This is the crux of the trial. 25 patients were treated with hydroxychloroquine, after 6 days only 25% ( meaning 6.25 people - I wonder how he could get 25% of 25 people) still had corona virus in their bodies. Now answer these; what is the incubation period of the virus, and how long does an infection last? What is the fatality rate of the disease and by how much did the hydroxychloroquine affect the fatality rate? “This study seems promising, but we have to be really careful before raising hope when it comes to a virus as new as this one, for which we don’t yet have a lot of data,” said Sarah D’Alessandro, a professor of molecular medicine at the University of Milan and a malaria specialist who has worked on hydroxychloroquine.This is the views of a malaria specialist who has worked on hydroxychloroquine. A European programme of large-scale clinical trials was launched on March 12, aiming to test the effectiveness of four treatments that have already proven themselves against other viruses, such as Ebola. Hydroxychloroquine was not chosen. |
stanech:Abeg which professionals adviced him to prescribe hydroxychloroquine for coronavirus, definitely not Dr Fauci. OK the latest excuse is that he was in a hurry to announce a cure. Just noticed that this news of FDA's approval of chloroquine is not on the updates of FDA website. How come? - https://www.fda.gov/consumers/consumer-updates |
This was the official statement from the FDA just one week ago; Beware of Fraudulent Coronavirus Tests, Vaccines and TreatmentsWhat happened in just 7 days? Did the FDA carry out clinical trials and the approval process in just 7 days, or did Trump blackmail then into approving an untested drug? The US is beginning to look like a third world country. |
stanech:Why will Democrats hope the drug will not work or even work? Science is not about hopes, it's about facts. Trump needs to show data that Hydroxychloroquine cures coronavirus. Once he does, the whole medical profession - Democrats and Republicans will accept it as fact, and start prescribing it to their patients. |
abdullkabar:Chloroquine is not an antiviral drug, it's an anti parasite drug. No one applied for FDA approval except Trump. There was never application nor clinical trials for the use of chloroquine as a cure for coronavirus in the US. Trump just railroaded the FDA to grant approvals without tests. |
The FDA gave emergency arrivals without clinical trials? Let's see if doctors will actually prescribe chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine for coronavirus. Here is Trump on the chances of the drugs; “Let’s see how it works,” Trump said at a press briefing on Sunday, referencing New York state’s efforts. “It may. It may not.”They want to live humans as guinea pigs. |
stanech:From what I understood you typed, you insinuated that liberals would prefer patient die than use a drug prescribed by Trump, according to conservatives. You now used Hydroxychloroquine as an example. |
stanech:Human worship is bad for your mental health. Why would Trump mention a cure for cancer? Is he a medical doctor? Trump is not omniscient, his opinions are not sacrosanct. No doctor with any reputation has prescribed hydroxychloroquine to cure coronavirus or any other virus infection. |
- - Continue The second link - https://www.wsj.com/articles/these-drugs-are-helping-our-coronavirus-patients-11584899438?mod=hp_opin_pos_3 Is an opinion written in the wall Street journal by Jeff Colyer and Daniel Hinthorn. I could not read the full articles because a subscription or registration is required, and I am not ready to subscribe or register, but from what I am able to read, the article is an opinion piece by Jeff Colyer and Daniel Hinthorn. Now, I have no idea who they are or their qualifications. I doubt they are medical doctors Exactly the same same issue with your third link -https://www.wsj.com/articles/doctors-turn-to-malaria-drugs-as-potential-coronavirus-treatment-11584729626 This article is also the private opinions of By Jared S. Hopkins and Daniela Hernandez Updated in the same wall Street journal. |
garetz:SMH This is from your first link - https://www.france24.com/en/20200320-will-an-old-malaria-drug-help-fight-the-coronavirus This is the crux of the trial. 25 patients were treated with hydroxychloroquine, after 6 days only 25% ( meaning 6.25 people - I wonder how he could get 25% of 25 people) still had corona virus in their bodies. Now answer these; what is the incubation period of the virus, and how long does an infection last? What is the fatality rate of the disease and by how much did the hydroxychloroquine affect the fatality rate? “This study seems promising, but we have to be really careful before raising hope when it comes to a virus as new as this one, for which we don’t yet have a lot of data,” said Sarah D’Alessandro, a professor of molecular medicine at the University of Milan and a malaria specialist who has worked on hydroxychloroquine.This is the views of a malaria specialist who has worked on hydroxychloroquine. A European programme of large-scale clinical trials was launched on March 12, aiming to test the effectiveness of four treatments that have already proven themselves against other viruses, such as Ebola. Hydroxychloroquine was not chosen.When I say you have delusions and comprehension deficit disorder, very few people will disagree with me. |
saaron:And how will they know that corona virus is spreading faster in Nigeria than its speading in Israel? Have they established testing centres in Nigeria. How many people have died of coronavirus on Nigeria? 15 have so far died in Israel Number of Israeli coronavirus cases surges past 4,000Israel did not evacuate it's citizens from Italy, the cemetery of the world, the Israel did not evacuate it's citizens from the US, the new capital of Coronavirus, it's NIGERIA that has recorded no coronavirus death ( except 1 from other complications), that they are evacuating from. The irony is that the Italian who brought the virus was cured in NIGERIA and has been discharged. The number of Coronavirus cases in every country of the world is understated, because it depends on the number of people tested. if the outbreak in Nigeria is because of this incompetent fulani regime, then this Fulani regime must be in charge of the US. The US has over 120,000 confirmed cases right now, and is expected to rise to a few millions within the next few weeks. The Fulani president said if only 100,000 to 200,000 dies as a result of the virus, they have done an excellent job. So the Israelis need to be evacuated to the US to experience the excellent job. |
GalaticHorde:Most Trump supporters are suffering from delusion. Some like the person you responded to has hallucinations and alternative reality added to his delusion. I don't know how one can read any of the links, he provided and reach a conclusion that chloroquine was tested, recommended or prescribed by any medical professional. |
iamarealman:hyperventilate /hʌɪpəˈvɛntɪleɪt/ verb 1. breathe or cause to breathe at an abnormally rapid rate, so increasing the rate of loss of carbon dioxide. "she started to hyperventilate under stress" 2. be or become overexcited. "the President was hyperventilating about a minor newspaper story" - From Oxford |
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