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garetz:Since you guys have been conditioned not to believe your ears and eyes and even your senses, I will transcribe the video for others to learn. Here it is; ;The virus, the're working hard, looks like by April when it's gets a little warmer, it miraculous goes away. I hope that's true. But we are doing great in our country. China, I spoke with president xi and they are working very very hard, and I think it's all going to work out fine. Rough stuff, I tell you rough rough stuff, but I think it's going to work out good. We only have 11 cases and they are all getting better. Now who takes responsibility for Trump's words? Was it the same "expert" that told him coronavirus will miraculously dissappear in April, that also told him chloroquine will cure the virus? Arguing with you guys is like arguing with the wind, you blow in all and every direction. Even Islamic fundamentalists do not argue so senselessly. |
garetz:You know that the Internet never forgets, right? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svrxYLvJYto I know it does not matter to trumptards as they have been ordered to believe their ears and eyes, but only what they have been told to believe by Trump. |
Every single day Trump still blame Obama for a pandemic that happened 3 years into his presidency. As absurd as that sound, his worshippers buy it. When Jim acosta called Trump out yesterday he on his poor handling of the coronavirus pandemic, by asking "who dropped the ball", he mentioned "the previous administration. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-xHsSK8HTw Here are is excuses; Trump: I inherited an empty stockpile 3 years ago. That's Obama's fault! He then went on rambling about empty military stock. Does he expects to fight coronavirus with guns and missiles? Besides this has been fact checked and found to be a lie.- https://www.factcheck.org/2020/04/trump-falsely-claims-he-inherited-empty-stockpile/ Even if true, did he expects vaccines and medicines in the stockpiles to last forever? Don't they have shelf lives? How many did he restock in 3 years? The most absurd of all absurdities is when asked about lack of tests, Trump said "We inherited a faulty test from the previous administration". He inherited a faulty test for a disease that didn’t exist yet. |
garetz:You guys are living in an alternate universe, so your perception of reality is opposite of what it really is. I don't blame you guys anyway, your messiah already instruct you not to believe your very eyes or use your brains, but to accept anything that emanates from his own mouth. 1. Therapy means treatment to relieve or cure a disease. They are synonyms that can be used interchangeably so all those argument you made about use of the word therapy instead of cure is total nonsense!!Therapy in this particular case does not mean cure. Even the CDC had warned that the Coronavirus has no cure or vaccine. So it's you people that is promoting or insinuating that any drug as a cure that is talking nonsense. 2. For you to be insinuating that this report was published by Trump's people just shows how ignorant you are. Sermo is a worldwide forum of doctors in over 150 countries in the world, a big majority of them are not even Americans. Common sense should have told you to checkout the organization doing the survey before accusing them of being Trump stooges.You are just making unfounded assumptions and then using those assumptions as a basis to justify your views. How do you know that a vast majority of doctors are Americans - Republicans at that? If Trump’s people could get the CDC to approve chloroquine for the treatment of chloroquine just by the words of Trump, without conducting any tests, don't you think writing a "report" on Sermo.com would be a breeze? When was the survey carried out and how many non Americans participanted. Japanese doctors are definitely excepted, as they generally disagree with the use of chloroquine for treatment of coronavirus. 3. You said the doctors surveyed were probably Republicans? From over thirty different countriesAs pointed out abroad. Let's see the actual results of the so called survey and not just unsubstantiated claims. Even UK is against the use of chloroquine to cure coronavirus. 4. Science doesn't work on people's opinions right? But the people whose opinions were published in that survey happen to be professionals in medical sciences. More than that, they are experts on fighting viral infections, the very people we should be listening to at this time.Whether professionals or quacks, science does not work on personal or group opinions. You need to prove it works, with verifiable proof and explain how and why it works in a scientific paper that can be read by all. 5. It seems you can't differentiate between most prescribed and most effective. Most prescribed means the one that has been prescribed most by doctors while most effective means the one that has been most effective in the treatment of coronavirus infections. I am shocked I have to break this simple thing down for you. And please the "nothing" in the report was not referring to paracetamol. It means some doctors recommended giving no drugs at all to the patient hence their opinion was represented by the word "nothing"OK, my error. Nothing is nothing and not paracetamol, didn't see the comma after the nothing. Having said that, if 'nothing' is the third best therapy, what does that say about the first and second best therapies? It means they cannot be proven to work. To prove a drug works, you need to carry out clinical trials with control. The control being placebos given to a second group. If the results of the drug are not much different from the control, the whole result is discarded. In all these turanchi, you failed to answer the most pertinent question; Did the use of chloroquine alter the general fatality figures of infected people in the US or any other country using it as a cure? Maybe that's the secret of Nigeria and other Africans countries, because we have less than 1% fatality rate. |
basilico:So it's only what the governor said in January you saw? You are blind to all Trump said in January and February that "it is only one person coming from China" and that he is fully in control, even after being briefed by the intelligence community. I think you are suffering from partial blindness or rather selective blindness |
ornicus:If it was Hillary Clinton, the Republicans would not let us hear word for the next 10 years. The Republicans hammered on Benghazi debacle for 2 full years. Till today, they still hammer on Emails after 2 years of investigations. If Obama was this incompetent, I am sure the Republicans would have declared a civil war. The illiterate in the White House ignored security briefings in January that could have staved this offImagine, the intelligence agencies warned Trump and his Republican senators early january about an incoming pandemic, what did Trump and his Republican friends do? They quickly sold of their stocks and bought medical stocks, and did nothing, waiting for the pandemic to hit. When the pandemic finally hit, they blame the Democrats and even Obama for the pandemic and the resulting deaths. American dem governors are trying to stave off debts, while republican governors are just getting out of denial, is that not a fact?Imagine putting Jared Kushner in charge of managing the pandemic. Kushner a spoilt kid like Trump himself is now in charge of US foreign policy and domestic policy. And you wonder why they are celebrating an expected 200,000 deaths. He is the Abba Kyari of US. |
garetz:Clowns. Who declared chloroquine as "the most effective drug?" Did you read to read the reports at all? It's all just speculations that Trump's people are pushing as a cure according to the revelation received by Trump. https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/apr/2/hydroxychloroquine-rated-most-effective-therapy-do/The headline of this report says it all Hydroxychloroquine rated 'most effective [color=#99000] therapy'[/color] by doctors for coronavirus: Global surveyThe headline says therapy; what does that tell you? That it's not a cure. Then is most effective therapy is from a survey of some doctors, meaning from the opinion of some doctors (probably Republican doctors ). Science do not work on opinions of anyone, it works by presenting verifiable data confirming your tests and trials, and explaining the reasons behind it. Many doctors in Nigeria will opine that "agbo" is the best therapy for lots of illnesses. 37% of 6227 physicians think that hydroxychloroquine is the “most effective therapy” from a list of 15 options. From the survey, the most commonly prescribed drug was analgesics ( paracetamol - 56%), then azithromycin (41%) and hydroxychloroquine (33%). From this survey even "nothing" (paracetamol) was rated the 3rd most effective in the treatment of coronavirus. As I said earlier, the flu industry is a huge scam. Pharmaceuticals make billions selling useless drugs purporting to cure the common Cold. It's your natural immunity that can fight the flu virus itself - no other drugs. This coronavirus does not significantly affect about 80% of those infected, about 20% requires hospitalisation ,while 2 - 4% on average will not survive it. If chloroquine, hydroxychloroquine or any other drug has been tested to significantly alter this statistics, let me know. |
garetz:So what responsibility does Trump have? He was not responsible for Puerto Rico in the aftermath of Hurrucane Maria, Trump is not responsible for handling a devastating pandemic in the US, so what is he responsible for exactly? I thought he said the US is at war and so is a war president? Maybe the Governors are the ones that handles wars in the US? If Hawaii is attacked today, maybe Trump will say it's the Governors responsibility to respond. You same people would put all the blame in Nigeria on Buhari and not your governors. |
Goldmaxx:I think Oga Seun should demand a sanity test before allowing people to register. I read some real crazy shit on nairaland, some of the craziest conspiracy theories I have ever heard. From someone staking his life that the earth is flat to the Trump guys that believes everyone that dislikes or criticise Trump is evil and should be stoned to death. These same people are usually the ones that critical of Obama or Buhari the most, not minding that even till today Obama is more popular than Trump. Barack Obama today is the most followed person on twitter with over 114 million followers. - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most-followed_Twitter_accounts No one is saying the media shouldn't exist but they should report accurately and quote correctly. Not being dishonest.Who should determine which reports are accurate? Fox news or Trump? How come 90% of US and international media including BBC are inaccurate, but only fox news and alt right wing media. Even fox news is sometimes criticised by Trump and you guys. when the media are openly biased and partisan then it's becomes a problem for the people.So the media has only started being bias, they were not bias during Obama or past administrations? They are not bias in other democracies. The media like other human endeavours is subject to personal and group biases, but it does not remove from the accuracy off their reports. As I said earlier Trump want to hear only news praising him, he better abolish the first amendment and impose media censorship like China, North Korea or Russia. Have you ever seen trump call them out for exactly reporting what he said? They spin his words in order to satisfy their radical left base. New York times was caught changing their headline 3 fücking times just to satisfy Pelosi and her leftists dumbKrats.You said headlines and not the subject of the report. All media house play around with headlines to attract maximum attention. If the report is false, why not let's fact check the report. People have lost faith in the media. They deserve every ounce of spite and tantrum designated towards them by Trump.Trump never had faith in the media. The love -hate relationship with the media is decades old. His supporters only recently entered the fray. So it's you people that have just recently lost faith with the media. The vast majority of people still have faith in the media. |
[quote author=Goldmaxx post=88046055][/quote]I have not seen a more deluded set of people than Trump worshippers. There have the worse case of schizophrenia.Don Quixote is sane compared to them. Imagine they imagine everyone to be deepstate except Trump, including fox news. Only Trump and the Republican party are shallow state that lies the US. All Democratic governors wants their citizens dead and so are lying about supplies. Clinton's and Democrats are infecting face mask to spread the virus in the their states, while Bill Gates is helping them spread the virus in the UK. Democrats filled cruise liners with corona infected illegal immigrants and bring them into the US to infect people. Under normal circumstances, ships in distress are allowed to dock at the nearest port. In the coronavirus pandemic, cruise ships present a perfect storm of problems for governmentsDemocrats sent a train to sink a navy hospital ship because of CHIDREN rescued from all the military battles in underground tunnels that people think are earthquakes for the past few months in different states of America. Does this sentence even make sense to a mad man? Democrats wants to shut down or lock down states in order to hurt America? I am sure it's the Democrats also that forced European, ,Canada, Nigeria and in fact over 70% of countries in the world to lock down. Since you have demonised the Democrats without and proof, not to talk of charge, what do you suggest to be done? Maybe Trump should ban the democratic party, throw is leaders and members in jail, and hunt their supporters to extinction. That way Trump will reign supreme with no questions from anyone. O, I forgot, what of the press? Since the lying fake press are part of the deepstate, the first amendment should be abolished. Only news from Trump's twitter feed and fox news should be permitted. |
BeautifulMind2:He is right. The people making the masks should wear masks and gloves, unless the whole batch us sterilised after completion, before packaging. One sneeze or cough will contaminate the whole batch. Many countries are reporting that masks from China are already contaminated with the virus they are trying to prevent. |
emeijeh:Is Aba not in Nigeria, or is it in Japan? Abeg give credit to Aba guys, they are making us proud. Besides, it's not the OP that called it Aba made, it's from the labelling. The labelling on the face masks advertised it as Aba made, this is because people are afraid of masks from China. |
ornicus:I honestly don't know who are more fanatical, ,Trump's followers or Mohammed's followers? Both get irrational when their messiah is being questioned, and are prepared to attack and even kill anyone who disbelieve anything their prophet says. Even here on nairaland, Trump followers get abusive and verbally violent once anyone points out Trump's incompetencies and lies. Oga seun might need to create a section for them complete with signing an undertaking. |
garetz:I have never in my entire life seen a more incompetent administrator or manager than Donald J Trump. He had bungled every responsibility he had ever been called upon to undertake. He does not know how to take responsibility for anything, but quick to take credit for the efforts of others. He bankrupt all his own businesses. His response to the coronavirus was the worst in the whole world. I pray God bring him back as president come November, then we will see the fastest fall of any superpower the world had ever seen. |
Presidenf Obama warned the incoming president that the worst threat facing the US was a global pandemic rising out of China and decimating the world and US economy. Obama actually carried out a drill on how to deal with the pandemic and put in structures and man power to deal with it. What did Trump do ignored all the warnings and dismantled all the structures. Before Trump’s inauguration, a warning: ‘The worst influenza pandemic since 1918’Now, when the pandemic finally hit, Trump is blaming Obama for not preparing enough for the pandemic. |
kokaneprodigy:This shows you are incapable of passing an exam. You have been yapping about expert medical advice that made Trump to declare chloroquine a cure for coronavirus. I asked a simple question; which medical experts adviced Trump to announce chloroquine a cure for coronavirus, and you are talking off point. |
kokaneprodigy:Read between the lines? Why does anyone need to read between the lines of FDA's official statements? If the FDA have tested a drug that works, they would write it in the lines and not between the lines. Here is the lines from FDA's official website; Because COVID-19 has never been seen in humans before, there are currently no vaccines to prevent or drugs to treat COVID-19 approved by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA). The FDA is working with vaccine and drug manufacturers to develop new vaccines for and find drugs to treat COVID-19 as quickly as possible. Meanwhile, some people and companies are trying to profit from this pandemic by selling unproven and illegally marketed products that make false claims, such as being effective against the coronavirus.Oya provide you own link, so we can read both on and between the lines. |
kokaneprodigy:See excuse. Trump worshippers make more excuses for their God than Christians, muslims and Jews added together. Trump being omniscient and knowing about South Korea than anyone on the planet did not know the population of Seoul. Can you please name the medical adviser or expert that gave Trump the advice that chloroquine can cure any coronavirus. |
Butoneday2:Why did Biafran governors scrap history from their state curriculum? Don't they want this generation of Biafrans to know the exploits of Biafrans during the civil war? |
Wallade:And how did the quarantine of citizens help slow or stop the virus from devastating those countries? Then how will the government quarantine all citizens (what about non citizens?), coming into the country when there was no quarantine facilities in place. Will the government use a magic wand, and abracadabra, huge quarantine facilities with equipments and test kits will appear? |
SmartyPants:So which country do you think took the kinds of measures you advocate to stem the inflow of the virus into their country? Which country do you suggest we emulate? Nigeria cannot just shut his borders too early to all incoming traffic. Stopping flight from China did not work as Trump found out. The virus could come from any country, even before it reaches epidemic levels in that country. If Buhari stopped all flights to Nigeria the very week the outbreak started in Wuhan, the regular wailers would have wailed endlessly on how Nigeria did not close the borders during SARS in 2003. Beef NCDC capacity? How? This is a virus we knew very little about and the world had very little ideas of its properties. |
NaijaRoyalty:Even if we conceded to your unverified figure of 10,000, what of deaths from the virus? With a fatality rate of 2%, we would have expected 200 deaths from coronavirus alone in Lagos State, but we have 2. What does that tell you? |
Faber:Which government scrapped history from our school curriculum? You mean you searched for history in WAEC, NECO and JAMB syllabus, and you did not find it? Maybe you wanted to take history as a subject in your Senior Secondary School and it was not available. That would be the fault of your school and not WAEC or JAMB. It's state ministry of education that determines the curriculum of secondary schools in the states, except for unity schools, so if history is not in your states curriculum, hold your governor responsible. |
iPOOPinURmouth:My people still think USA is equivalent to heaven. USA is simply living on past glory, it's a falling empire, just like other empires before it. The new rising economic power is south East Asia, particularly China. Of the top ten banks in the world, 4 are Chinese, 4 are US, one is UK and one is Japanese. The 4 Chinese are the top 4 banks - https://www.google.com/amp/s/markets.businessinsider.com/amp/news/top-10-banks-in-the-world-2019-2019-7-1028330545 For the first time in history, China has more companies on the fortune global 500 companies than the US - https://amp.scmp.com/business/companies/article/3019632/first-china-has-more-companies-fortune-global-500-list-us and the gap is set to widen further in the coming years. The US shot itself in the foot, by alienating it's traditional trade and military allies, and taking on China alone. |
kokaneprodigy:You mean Trump did not have experts to tell him that the population of Seoul is roughly 10 million, but he has experts that told him chloroquine cures coronavirus? If Buhari makes half of Trump's gaffes, you guys will not let us hear word again. Ordinary calling covid 19 covik 1-9, you people did not let us rest on social media. |
kokaneprodigy:The same Trump that did a Google search of Seoul and saw elevation - 38m, and immediately went on to announce on national TV, that he knows south korea better than anybody and that the population of Seoul is 38million https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DA9P7n6P-ss Trump behaves and talks like a semi illiterate
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Although your conspiracy theory sounds outlandish and outrageous, even if it's true, Trump is still to blame. Obama left an agent embedded inside the Chinese Center for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), to monitor any virus outbreak from China. Trump removed the agents just 6 months before the virus hit. If the agent was still there, Trump would have gotten first hand intelligence on whatever was going on in China and acted before it got put of hand. You mean Nancy Pelosi and the Democrats would conspire with China to import a virus into the US that could possibly kill Nancy Pelosi herself, her family and other Democrats, just to spite Trump? I forgot to add; Right after the first case of coronavirus was reported in the US on January 21, Chuck Schumer called on Trump to immediately declare a state of emergency to prevent any outbreak in the US, what did your God do? Nothing. Schumer calls on feds to declare coronavirus outbreak a public health emergency; - January 26, 2020 |These are the Democrats that conspired with China to kill Americans |
MrCEO69:Are you aware that chloroquine was banned for treatment of malaria by WHO since 2002. Most countriesof the world including Nigeria had banned the use of chloroquine as treatment for malaria. Before now, I could get the full treatment (intravenously ) in only a few places and it was expensive. No doctor would prescribe chloroquine. |
Cypron:Any you think a honourable commissioner of police can override the command of the commander of chief. |
Zuorom:The media cannot suppress anything. There are scientists that are specialised in the field, such as Micro biologists, virologists, epidemiologists, etc. They research claims and come out with their findings, which will help others in the medical profession cure their patients. Coronaviruses had been with us for millenia, and will continue to be with us for millenia more. If a simple drug like chloroquine was the cure, believe, that would have been discovered before even it's use for malaria. It will not take a messiah in the mold of Trump to give us the revelation. I have always said that there is a world wide medical scam in common flu and coronaviruses in general. The pharmaceuticals are raking in billions to sell a cure for a disease we all know is incurable. They sell all sorts of miracle cure for the common Cold, which a few days rest and immune boosting supplements will cure. I stopped buying all these rubbish over 20 years ago, eg actifed, procold, and lots more I can't remember now. They are all useless. Common Cold (flu) will kill those it will kill, but majority will survive it and move on, until the next infection. Same with covid19. |
Zuorom:Even at 78 out of 80, that's 2.5% fatality rate, which is well within the average. You guys behave as Trump's words equate to the koran and his worshippers must defend it with their lives. This is what the link said; Also, the U.S.FDA has acted fast to make the unproven treatment available to thousands of COVID-19 patients in New York, despite the fact the following facts:Even UK is weary of using the untested drug on its own citizens; In the U.K., the government has prohibited the use of chloroquine outside of the trial but that position is now probably untenable since they have to explain why they aren’t providing treatment as France |
kokaneprodigy:Are you autistic or just pretending to be? FDA and all medical professionals have stressed that "there are no vaccines or cure for coronavirus as of today", so where did you get the false information that 4 out of 5 patients were successfully treated with chloroquine in France. If it was true France will blow her own trumpet and not wait for Trump or you to blow it for them. Coronavirus virus has a fatality rate of between 2 - 4%, so 4 out of 5 patients recovering is even above the fatality rate (assuming 1 out of every patient dies (that's an astounding 20% fatality rate). Most people that survived the coronavirus, did without taking any drug, except palliatives to alleviate symptoms and rest. So even if you take chloroquine, agbo, paracetamol or chalk, the fatality rate would not change from the traditional 2 - 4%. I even think chloroquine will worsen the fatality rate, due to adverse side effects of the drug, especially on people who had never taken it. |
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In how many countries does the Republican party exist for God's sake?
. The report is saying "nothing" was rated the third best therapy followed by analgesics in fourth, anti - HIV drugs in fifth e.t.c