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Health › Re: COVID-19: Another Patient Dies In Lagos by wirinet(m): 5:49pm On Apr 11, 2020
Shelumiel:
That's a stupid question. Are pastors immortals? Were you told they could not be affected by illnesses ? Your question is lame and its seriously off point . Its like you saying why are doctors(who happen to be medical scientists) dying from the pandemic even though they are suppose to be the custodians of sound health. Does that make sense to you...
Doctors never claimed to have superhuman powers, doctors never claimed to be able to resurrect the dead and doctors never go on TV shows performing healing miracles.

Your pastors had claimed before this coronavirus came to show how powerless they are, that they have the powers to heal the sick and cast out demons and infirmities. Desperate and sick people come from all around the world, just to relieve healing from these men of God. So why are they not inviting coronavirus patients from Italy, the US and all countries coronavirus is decimating their population? Why are the countries spending billions in researching vaccines and cures? Would it not have been cheaper to build mega churches and healing grounds and invite these miracle pastors to start healing all coronavirus patients?
Health › Re: COVID-19: Another Patient Dies In Lagos by wirinet(m): 5:21pm On Apr 11, 2020
Shelumiel:
And why hasn't science found the vaccine yet?
Because the disease became known to the world only in January this year. Developing a vaccine takes years of research and trials. Vaccines are not made by prayers and deliverance.

Oya, now answer, why are Christians, priests and pastors also dying from the coronavirus virus? Does the blood of Jesus not cover Christians from coronavirus?
Romance › Re: Why Do Married Couples Have Their Partner's Nude Pictures On Their Phone? by wirinet(m):
madridguy:
To me i see it as lack of discipline and crazy fantasy. How would a grown up man or woman keep their nudes of their phone, for what if i may ask. What if your phone falls into a wrong hand?

I will give this to ladies, almost every ladies has their nude on their phone.
It's a free world and it's not against the constitution to have your own or your spouse's nude pictures (with permission of course) on your phone.

People are permitted to lack discipline unless it is against the law. The person violating the law is the police taking the personal property of another without permission. A law should be made to punish those who forcefully violate the privacy of others by looking at the personal information on other people's phones and digital devices.
If I take my wife's physical photos and keep it in my wardrobe, a policeman has no right to break into my wardrobe to look at it without a court warrant. My phone is my private personal property where I can keep confidential documents, no one should forcefully gain access to it.

I want to implore human rights lawyers like Ebun-Olu Adegboruwa to take the Nigerian Police to court for serially violating the rights of nigerians by taking their phones at gun point and violating their privacy. He was able to free us from the illegal sanitation law through the courts.
Health › Re: How I Survived A Super Contagious Viral Infection by wirinet(m):
sotall:
undecided

Coronavirus has been in Nigeria as early as last year December.


A lot of people have the disease and do not know it. We never had the testing kit till about a month ago anyway.


In all of these, one thing stands out, the number of confirmed infected persons in Nigeria is scam.


The real infected people with coronavirus disease are roaming the street spreading it
I agree with you also. My whole family was down 3 weeks ago with similar symptoms you described. It started with my 6 years old daughter coughing profusely and running high temperature, my wife took her to a nearby nurse for malaria treatment which was quinine based. The next day, my wife too started coughing also, her own was even more serious with phlegm, she too went for the full course of quinine treatment, the next day my 8 years old boy and I came down with high fever, he had dry cough while I didn't, but had some throat discomfort. I went to do malaria and typhoid test for us both. The result were positive for thyroid and negative for malaria, so I bought strong antibiotics for us both. My son and little daughter were so sick that I was becoming afraid, they could not eat for 3 days. I had to buy 2 big bottles of lucozade everyday for three days to provide energy (glucose). I also put my daughter on antibiotics. Two days later, my eldest 12 year old started his own. I also took him for test and it was thyroid, so I also bought him antibiotics. By this time, I had almost spent 30,000 on drugs, tests and supplements. When we started suspecting something more sinister, my wife went to buy lime, ginger, and garlic. Luckily I had a big bottle of honey at home. The lime was fücking expensive, 1 was N500. My wife bought 10 for 5000. So I would squeeze the lime, grate the ginger add honey with some water. I warmed the broth, not boil and gave it to the whole family to drink, once in the morning and once at night. After about 5 days, we were all getting better. We are all much better now, but not 100%. It was hardest on my wife, she would cough all night, although the cough has almost gone. Now she sleeps much better.
To be honest, I was really scared. I was even scared of going to the hospital at this time, because to me hospitals are ground zero for this coronavirus. The hospitals are not adequately disinfected and with lots of suspected infected patients coming in and out, the chances of catching the virus in hospitals are quite high.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by wirinet(m): 5:27pm On Apr 09, 2020
garetz:
Of all sources to cite, you are quoting the salon? One of the worst leftist conspiracy rags out there and I bet you never tried to confirm their fake news, you just swallowed it without thinking. I went through the article in your link and sure enough the salon were lying their fake news asses off. Firstly, Dr Didier raoult has never put out any statement to the effect that his trials did not meet expected standards, that's a blatant lie. Even the source that the salon linked to clearly mentioned that it wasn't Dr Didier that put out that statement but another group that was criticizing him but the salon gotta fake the news as they always do. The only statement Dr Didier has put out is the one where he warned people not to self medicate which is common sense. You've just been bamboozled with lies by a fake news site. You really need to lay off the fake news pills before accusing anyone of being psychotic.
See how you deliberately deflect and refract the main subject matter and instead start hammering on a minor side heading. The main issue is the CDC quietly removing hydroxychloroquine from its website as a cure for coronavirus. Did the CDC remove the prescription of chloroquine from its website or not?
If salon is the worst leftist conspiracy rags out there, what of others that reported the same story (without the Dr Didier raoult slant)?

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/coronavirus-trump-fauci-giuliani-hydroxychloroquine-a9455991.html

The independence of UK is also the worst leftist conspiracy rags out there, in fact anything media that reports anything contrary to what Trump and his worshippers believe are the worst leftist conspiracy rags out there.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by wirinet(m): 9:13am On Apr 09, 2020
kokaneprodigy:
I have attached some files for u to read, if you still do not understand what I’m saying that’s your problem not mine.
I have also attached links that the CDC is trying to distance itself from president Dr. Donald Trump's cure for coronavirus.
CDC quietly deletes hydroxychloroquine guidance as study hyped by Trump comes into question
The publisher of a French study cited by Trump put out a statement announcing it did not meet "expected standards"

he Centers for Disease Control and Prevention on Tuesday quietly removed bizarre guidelines for using the malaria drug hydroxychloroquine as a potential treatment for the new coronavirus. The unproven treatment has been repeatedly hyped by President Donald Trump in spite of the warnings of Dr. Anthony Fauci.

The CDC published "highly unusual" dosing guidance based on "unattributed anecdotes rather than peer-reviewed science" last month amid pressure on federal health officials from Trump, Reuters reported. The agency now appears to have quietly removed those guidelines from its website this week.
https://www.salon.com/2020/04/08/cdc-quietly-deletes-hydroxychloroquine-guidance-as-study-hyped-by-trump-is-called-into-question/
I am sure in your minds, the French doctor and the CDC have joined the "Deep State". You guys need to be put on psychotic drugs permanently, else you will constitute a danger to yourselves and society.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by wirinet(m): 9:37pm On Apr 08, 2020
Amujale:
New information has come to the forth how Bill Gates, W.H.O, Anthony Fauci and others are commiting crimes through the US medical systems.


Anthony Fauchi & Bill Gates ought to be indicted immediately.


Sign this petition to get Trump to work on the indictment process of the agents of the 'Deep State'.

https://shiva4senate.com/petition-fire-fauci/
So the Democrats, Dr Fauci, Bill Gates, Hillary Clinton, WHO, UN, CNN, BBC, etc., and all who does not believe everything Trump says is deep state.
Your own case is worse than Jonny Nash of "a beautiful mind".
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by wirinet(m): 12:04pm On Apr 08, 2020
kokaneprodigy:
So far no preliminary link, talk more of factual link between Chloroquine and deaths. case closed!. For all we know Chloroquine has been used in treating some Covid patients successfully and it’s getting popular.

Anything contrary to this is mere beer parlour gist.
You are just going round in circles. Where is the data on the total number of covid patient that had been treated by chloroquine, what percentage was successful, what percentage failed and what percentage died?. Let's see the statistics.
Health › Re: COVID-19: 16 New Cases Reported, Total now 254 With 44 Discharged And 6 Deaths by wirinet(m): 8:16am On Apr 08, 2020
Trueigbo:
Cases in Nigeria should be more than this. A country of over 200m and we have tested only about 5000 people
Actually infected people should be more than reported, but the government can only test people that shows symptoms and present themselves for testing. The government can't enter the streets and our homes forcing us to do the test.
One positive is that hospitals and morgue are not reporting and increase in deaths.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by wirinet(m): 7:59am On Apr 08, 2020
kokaneprodigy:
how did you know anyone has died while taking chloroquine as prescribed by a licensed medical practitioner?

Story of a cup being half full or half empty.
I don't, and I don't go around stating as a matter of fact that people have died because of chloroquine.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by wirinet(m): 7:49am On Apr 08, 2020
kokaneprodigy:
You missed the point again!

[/color]The fact that no one has died while taking the drug as prescribed by a licensed medical practitioner means no death is on Trump. The only person recorded to have died self medicated and abused the drug. Same way People don’t die of Tramadol as a result of Drs prescription except those that abused it.

Hope u get it now.

Meanwhile I’m not a Buhari supporter. God forbid!
How do you know that no one has died while taking chloroquine as prescribed by a licensed medical practitioner. Do they state all the drugs and treatment a dead corona virus had before they died? No one has compiled a statistics of all coronavirus patients that took chloroquine to know how many died.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by wirinet(m):
GalaticHorde:
wait for the results of the trials, hydroxychloroquine has benefits, for ailments for which it is approved, it has contraindications too and despite political pressure, the FDA is refusing to endorse it outright for treating corona virus until testing is complete and data collated and that is how it should be. The various doctors endorsing it can be forgiven because of the unique scenario of the pandemic and the absence of other palliatives but tRump is wrong to endorse it prior to the FDA's and CDC's say so. The road to hell is paved with good intentions
Gbam. The problem is that Trump's motives are profit and not good intentions. The way he had been marketing and promoting hydroxychloroquine is extraordinary. He is even silencing the concerns of experts on its efficacy and dangers. I had always suspected that he has vested interests in hydroxychloroquine or chloroquine manufacturing firm.

Chloroquine and other quinine products affect heart rhythms and can be dangerous for people with heart problems or hypertension.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by wirinet(m): 11:52am On Apr 07, 2020
kokaneprodigy:
For sake of this argument let’s assume 1 test, being 1 test doesn’t make it invalid. It only means more tests need to be done to verify claims. Even the FDA hasn’t ruled out the possibility they are only saying more tests need to be done.

However more doctors have prescribed it and have recorded success. Nobody has died as records have shown due to chloroquine prescription for Covid.

Once again what’s there to lose since there isn’t better alternative at the moment.
You guys don't know how scientific claims work, it is different from religious claims. You make an hypothesis and back up your claims with verifiable data. You must also published your findings in a scientific journal, so every one can understand how and why it works.

If you open a simple chloroquine pack for the treatment of malaria, it will contain a leaflet detailing how the drug kills the malaria parasite, it will provide details on which enzymes or properties of the parasite it attacks. Same with other antibacterial and antivirus drugs. Even HIV drugs will explain how it stops the virus from further replicating.

This case is just like a traditional medicine man that claims he cured staphylococcus with "agbo" and believe me, there are hundreds of such claims. We hear how many people he has cured without any reports or scientific basis.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by wirinet(m): 11:28am On Apr 07, 2020
garetz:
Oh my God!! How many times will the results be shared on this thread before you stop asking for it to be posted again? Something that has been shared over and over again by at least three different people on the forum and you even commented and debated about it when it was posted. As for BoJo, the choice is his, Britain is one of the countries that have refused to give Chloroquine a trial so I won't be surprised if their situation becomes as terrible as italy and Spain.
I hope this is not the results you are talking about;
Doctors in France will now be able to treat COVID-19 patients after Didier Raoult, a renowned physician who specializes in infectious diseases, announced a new clinical trial’s results. According to that, 78 out of 80 coronavirus patients recovered within 5 days after being treated with chloroquine- which is considerably quicker than the usual 14 days. For some COVID-19 patients, it can take up to 28 days to recover, if at all they did.
https://www.ibtimes.com/coronavirus-treatment-france-officially-sanctions-drug-after-975-patients-recovered-2949364
because even a secondary school science students cannot present a mere unverified claim as a test results .

Where have you ever seen a clinical trial consisting of only 80 test subjects by one doctor with no control and no actual report.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by wirinet(m): 8:22am On Apr 07, 2020
kokaneprodigy:
was Lupus a pandemic? Has any Coronavirus patient died after being treated with Chloroquine?

Lab tests have been done and showed it worked, success rate of over 80% recorded on patients , but more tests still need to be carried out quite alright to confirm this. However this will take more time, do you propose people keep dying while they wait for confirmation?

This is simple logic.
If you have a loved one whose case is deteriorating and the doctor offers to prescribe chloroquine you will say no that you await WHO’s announcement.

This is where the what’s there to lose comes in.
Please share the lab tests where success rate of Hydroxychloroquine in treating coronavirus is 80%. If success rate is 80%, why is the fatality rate still very high? Why do thousands of people die each day?

More importantly, why haven't British doctors rushed hydroxychloroquine to Boris Johnson, he is in critical condition, and his conservative party would not want him to die in order to spite Trump.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by wirinet(m): 7:01am On Apr 07, 2020
garetz:
Unproven? Tell that to the Democratic rep in the link below whose life was saved from the coronavirus by the use of chloroquine. Liberals, Democrats and the fake news media can all go eat shiit!!! Lives are being saved by doctors using chloroquine. This lady is a democrat rep, wirinet can't accuse her of being a Trump stooge. Read her story and stop this foolish liberal propaganda by the fake news media

https://amp.freep.com/amp/2955430001
Do you guys ever read the links you provide past the headings. You Google a targeted phrase and then get linked to one obscure site with a report that looks like it was written while taking a shit in a loo.
Here are excerpts from your link;
A Democratic state representative from Detroit is crediting hydroxychloroquine — and Republican President Donald Trump who touted the drug — for saving her in her battle with the coronavirus.
President Trump is taking credit for saving her life by touting the drug (by divine vision). What of the over 10,000 deaths so far and the over 100,000 Trump is expecting to die, who takes credit for them?

State Rep. Karen Whitsett, who learned Monday she has tested positive for COVID-19, said she started taking hydroxychloroquine on March 31, prescribed by her doctor, after both she and her husband sought treatment for a range of symptoms on March 18.
The said rep. just learnt on Monday 30th March that she has coronavirus, and started taking hydroxychloroquine the next day which provided a miraculous cure immediately. Meanwhile she and her husband had sought treatment for a range of symptoms since 18th of March.
So what treatment had she undergone for two weeks prior to the miraculous cure?

"It has a lot to do with the president ... bringing it up," Whitsett said. "He is the only person who has the power to make it a priority."

Asked whether she thinks Trump may have saved her life , Whitsett said: "Yes, I do," and "I do thank him for that."
Trump is next to Jesus, infact Trump is a Saviour. He is the only person in the world that found a cure for coronavirus.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by wirinet(m):
wowcatty:
You must be the dumbest of all!

And getting 3 or more likes show the sort of people here!

Yes you can, some medicines actual work for two conditions and that's why the Hydroxy chloroquine is used for both malaria and lupus, ok?
Your are autistic. You guy's argument is that since chloroquine was used for malaria, you lose nothing by using trial and error to prescribe it for coronavirus (or other conditions ). Before hydroxychloroquine was approved and recommended for lupus, it went through clinical trials and WHO approvals and not the prophesy of one man.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by wirinet(m): 10:12pm On Apr 06, 2020
kokaneprodigy:
chloroquine has been around for years and was once popularly used to treat malaria and people did not die! It’s not like it’s an all new drug. So yes what do you have to lose!

It’s simple logic something very scarce with u liberals.
Are you that ignorant or simply dumb. You don't use a drug that's used to treat heart attack to treat diabetes simply because it was/is used to treat heart attack and there is nothing to lose. You can't even use a drug that cures typhoid to cure staphylococcus simply because both are bacteria. Drugs have side effects, contraindications, and so many other restrictions. If you prescribe medicines on a "what have you got to lose" basis instead of through proper trials and tests, you will kill more people that you will cure.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by wirinet(m): 10:03pm On Apr 06, 2020
kokaneprodigy:
Maybe Ornicus and wirinet can help us.
Even though I have never been a fan of Joe Biden, to me anyone is better than Trump. Trump is the most incompetent, untrustworthy, I'll informed president in the world. I honestly don't know who is more incompetent between him and Buhari (and I was a Buhari supporter).

Having said that, we all know Joe Biden has speech impediment as he has confessed to before. He is not articulate in speech, Trump too is very inarticulate in his speech, he able to fool his worshipers by repeating the same simple adjectives again and again ie, the best in the world, the greatest people, etc. Both of them are no where near Obama is public speaking.

Now this is a transcription of the clip you showed.
We cannot let this.. we've never allowed any crisis from the civil war, straight through to the pandemic of 17th all the way 16th, we have never never let our democracy sakes second fiddle, we can both have a democracy and elections at the same time correct the public health.

He was obvious talking about the coronavirus pandemic as it relates to postponement of election activities like the the primaries or the elections itself. He was trying to say that no crisis had ever affected the elections, not even the civil war or the 16th or 17th century pandemics (he was unsure of the century). He concluded that they can have the elections and at the same time deal with the public health concerns posed by the current pandemic.

Trump often argues with himself. He argues one way and then argues against his own position a few days later

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ire9vjnkdI
Politics › Re: Countries With 5G Mobile Internet And Those Scheduled For Launch In 2020 by wirinet(m): 2:55pm On Apr 06, 2020
rookidmart:
Whenever I read stupid claims made or carried by Nigerians, I just assume that I'm suffering for sins I committed in a past life, which is why I'm Nigerian.
The same Nigerians are screaming 5G causes cancer and are destroying telecommunication masts are the same Nigerians living under high tension cables. Are you kidding me? High tension cables generates much more harmful radiation than any telecoms mast.

Foreign Affairs › Re: President Weah Withdraws Ndubuisi Nwabudike's Nomination For Liberia's NEC Boss by wirinet(m):
Elxandre:
Arnold schwazzeneger became governor in California despite arriving America as a 21 year old from Austria.
I already explained why the US is a special case. If you missed it, here it is again;
"You cannot compare the US where all the real land owners had been eliminate or displaced to Africa or even Europe that has strong historical attachments to the land."

Besides Arnold Schwazzeneger planned his political strategy well by marrying into the Kennedy political dynasty. It's like marrying Into the Tinubu polical dynasty to further your political ambitions.

I'm sure you won't vote for an Igbo man born in Lagos, who contests for Lagos state governor( or whichever state you come from).
And this is just within Nigeria, not even from a foreign country like my example above.
But Lagosians have voted for many igbo people born in Lagos as state legislators. Let's start with state legislators before talking about governors. I want to see igbos vote one Yoruba man, just one Yoruba man into any other the state legislature in the south east.
At least Lagos State had appointed many igbos into the state cabinet, let's see just one reciprocal gesture from the south east.


Funny how people like you would frown at Racism and then promote tribalism in your countries.
So to you tribalism mean giving your people elective and appointive political posts in their lands, but refusing the same gesture in your own lands?
As I said, how many francois pèrès have you seen vying for political office in England or Gerhard Muller vying for appointive and elective office in France?
Politics › Re: Countries With 5G Mobile Internet And Those Scheduled For Launch In 2020 by wirinet(m): 1:52pm On Apr 06, 2020
kiyosaki1:
One thing common with all the places with 5G network is devastating effect of death due to coronavirus, and someone is telling me there is no correlation.
This is a fallacy called Affirming the consequent. Because 5G is usually installed in high population commercial cities and the coronavirus spread more rapidly in highly populated cities, you immediately conclude that 5G is responsible for high rate of infections in highly populated cities.
Foreign Affairs › Re: President Weah Withdraws Ndubuisi Nwabudike's Nomination For Liberia's NEC Boss by wirinet(m): 1:39pm On Apr 06, 2020
Elxandre:
Please keep quiet.

Donald trump has strong German origins and he's president today.
I bet if this was Africa, you would all be fixated on something has useless as tribe.
Which strong German origins does Donald Trump has? So just because his grand father was a German immigrant means he has strong German origins? Have you ever seen him boast of his "strong German origins"? I am sure he has never been to his grandfather's village.

You cannot compare the US where all the real land owners had been eliminate or displaced to Africa or even Europe that has strong historical attachments to the land.

If not for the folly of the African man, what's special about tribe, other than it been a function of where you were born?
What's special about tribe? Tribe is far more than where you are born, it's your ancestral roots, cultural heritage and language. Where you are born does not necessarily define tribe. Many igbos born in Lagos, London or Los Angeles still identify as igbos, even if some had never stepped a foot in Igboland.

Africa will never progress till we understand what is important and what is not. I might put that to a lack of education but I'm sure most of you bigots are.
You can never wish away tribalism or nationalism. It defines our sense of collective identity and sometimes collective aspiration. The Chinese, Japanese, British, Russians, Austrians, zulus, igbos, Yorubas, etc are very conscious and proud of their ethnicity or tribe.

I'm Yoruba by the way cos I know you people only see through the periscope of tribalism and ethnocentrism.
Yorubas are very tribalism in nature, so you cannot exonerate yourself (that is if you are truly yoruba). Yorubas are a bit more accommodating in accepting other people into their tribe the some other tribes in Nigeria. A white man or woman that accepts Yoruba customs, language and settles in Yorubaland is often accepted as Yoruba, ie Chief Susanne Wenger MFR, also known as Adunni Olorisha.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Mast Vandalized In UK Over 5G Coronavirus Claims by wirinet(m): 7:22am On Apr 06, 2020
hermesprogidy:
Who is this Vodafone boss? Who told you Russia does not have 5G? They signed an agreement with HUawei last year.
Here's a conspiracy theory for you, America started this rumour to undermine China. China has beaten America to the 5G race hence the misinformation.
That's the koko of the matter here. The US is being left behind in 5G technology, and instead of trying to compete, the US is using all sorts of threats and conspiracy theories to undermine Chinese companies at the forefront of 5G.
Foreign Affairs › Re: Mast Vandalized In UK Over 5G Coronavirus Claims by wirinet(m): 7:20am On Apr 06, 2020
Freeminda:
Thank God you accept technology to be hazard to human health. What people are saying now is 5G causes death. Not that it causes cancer, it kills those will compromised immune.

I should have insulted you, but I know you. I won't walk same path with you. Goodbye
I am always skeptical when someone says "people are saying ", who are theses people and what are they saying? Don't they have names?

What research report confirm your hypothesis that 5G kills by compromising immunity? At least many cities have been operating 5G for more than a year now, do you have statistics that people in those cities are dying faster than cities without 5G?
We should show we are worthy of our specie name - Homo sapiens sapiens. It means thinking thinking man. Thinking twice there, means we should think about everything twice, and not just jump to conclusion without thinking deeply on emotional grounds.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by wirinet(m): 4:02pm On Apr 05, 2020
Chrisbeks:
What will Democrats say before? Is there anything that Trump does that they won't criticize? Even if Trump appointed someone else, they will still criticize him.
Kushner must be a super human. He handles US foreign policy and he is also handling coronavirus.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by wirinet(m): 4:00pm On Apr 05, 2020
Chrisbeks:
Using voter ID doesn't deprive you of your fundamental right to vote, it rather safeguards the sanctity of your vote. The voter ID will not confer citizenship on you but it will help identify who is a citizen and who is not to prevent non citizens from voting. The democrats have seen a loophole in the Constitution and they are using it to allow illegal immigrants to vote. How do you explain Democrat states giving illegal immigrants driver's licenses which in many states is enough for you to vote in elections. The current electoral laws have a lot of loophole that can be taken advantage of by illegal immigrants and double voters. Unfortunately, every attempt to plug those loopholes have been rejected by Democrats who are apparently benefitting from the current situation.
You still don't get it. Voting rights is a fundamental right all over the world. It's the main element of a democratic form of government. An ID, passport, job, class, race, sex cannot be used to deprive a person from voting.

Any system can be abused. If driver's license can be given undeserved to illegal immigrants, ID cards can also be given to illegal immigrants. You do not want to burden the electoral commission of verifying all ID cards. Normal electoral procedure involves registration for voting purposes. It's during registration that proof of citizenship is often required, ie birth certificates, passports, Social security numbers and biometric data.

As I said no system can be foolproof. It behoves the dissatisfied party to complain and challenge the process in a court of law, if they feel that the elections has widespread and systemic irregularities.
The Republicans complained of these same issues after the last general elections and it was found to be false, even in states elections managed by Republicans.
I know this is the excuse Trump will give if he losses the next election
Remember, he rejected the results of the last election before he realised that he won.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by wirinet(m): 3:25pm On Apr 05, 2020
Chrisbeks:
Every attempt to make federal laws requiring the use of ID cards before voting have been resisted by the democrats. I wonder why it's only Democrats that are always resistant to voter ID laws.
Voting is a fundamental right, you don't need an ID to exercise your rights, you only need to be a citizen. An ID card does not confer citizenship. It's not even a passport that makes you a citizen. If you don't intend to travel abroad, you don't need a passport. The constitution never said you need to be employed, a student or carry ID card to be eligible to vote. It says once you are 18 and you are an American citizen, you have the right to vote.
Christianity Etc › Re: 3 Reasons We Need Jesus In Our Marriages And Our Lives by wirinet(m): 10:06am On Apr 05, 2020
vac888:
The paintings/pictures on your wall at home is nothing like the one I saw in my vision. He came to me in his glory, I mean in his awesomeness in heaven. His hair is completely gray/white, his fingers and toe nails have stars that shines very bright, his eyes is like that of the sun, shining brighter than the sun, his robe is white, very white. It takes only those that have been made whole and are washed in his blood to see him. I was so scared and was full of sin and that moment I screamed and woke up.


https://www.hightaughts.com/2020/04/3-unique-reasons-why-we-need-jesus-in.html?m=1
You require the following prescription;
400g chloroquine taken intravenously, once in the morning and once at night for 4 days.

1 tablet of Puriton to stop the itching

2 tablet paracetamol 3 times a day.

And a good rest.
Foreign Affairs › Re: President Weah Withdraws Ndubuisi Nwabudike's Nomination For Liberia's NEC Boss by wirinet(m):
junketer:
This is why no black nation will progress. Tribalism and xenophobia will always stand in our way of real progress. Where the white man looks for your competence to do the job the black man looks for your ethnicity first. Shame.
Why are you guys so obsessed with entering into the politic of other people? You immigrate to Poland and immediately want to become governors, legislators and president. You go to Norway and the next thing is you want to enter the political fray. If anyone complains, you start screaming racism, tribalism and shame. How many French people have you seen vying for political office in UK, despite them being close neighbours? How many French have entered German politics even though they are very closely aligned and have no Border restrictions. I would not have even mind much if you guys are liberal enough to allows others participation in your local politics, but no, you guys are isolationists, you don't even allow people from the same tribe but from neighbouring states to participate in your local politics.

Liberian have the perogative to give any appointive or elective post to anyone they like. If they say they don't want to give a foreigner or a newly naturalised person, it's their business. No one else has the right to complain.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by wirinet(m): 9:35pm On Apr 04, 2020
garetz:
BREAKING: New York "Accidentally" Delivered Coronavirus patients to the USNS Comfort... Which was supposed to only be for NON Coronavirus Patients..

The hits just keep on rolling with the morons in charge of New York..
I know that with your selective amnesia you blind, deaf and dumb to the admission on live TV by a Republican Governor (governor Kemp) that he only learnt yesterday that asymptomatic patients can speading the virus. Is incompetence a Republican targeted disease?
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by wirinet(m): 6:40pm On Apr 04, 2020
ornicus:
Guy, you know trumpanzees are cultist fanatics na. They have been programmed by a steady diet of faux news, and are incapable of logical thought.

I have been sliding quotes from 1984 and animal farm into my comments but those have gone completely over their empty heads

They are taking boxer to the knackers - the casual way some republicans the so called party of life say its OK for the old to die to 'save the economy'

Oceania has always been at war with East Asia. Trump will say one thing, they will jump on it. He will deny it the next minute and they will claim he never said it.

For them ignorance is strength.
Imagine touting a travel ban as the biggest achievement by Trump in the coronavirus war. They talk like a simple ban on flights from China and much later on Europe stopped the virus from decimating the US. They expect very little from Trump that even if he farts, that would be a major achievement.

The Republicans are more interested in the stock market than US lives. When they were warned about the virus early january, the were more concerned about their stocks than the lives of Americans.

That's the nature of Trump and his worshippers. He says one thing today and his supporters will defend the position with their lives, he then says the exact opposite the very next day and they would deny with with their mother's lives that he never said so in the first place, even if you show them video evidence. The craziest one to me was when during his meeting with Putin in Helsinki, he said " I don't see any reason why it would be" (Russia that interfered with the US elections. The very next day he said what he said was that "I don't see any reason why it would'nt be" and his goons are ready to defend him both ways, even though the speech is on YouTube.

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