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Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by wirinet(m): 10:03pm On Apr 06, 2020
kokaneprodigy:
Maybe Ornicus and wirinet can help us.
Even though I have never been a fan of Joe Biden, to me anyone is better than Trump. Trump is the most incompetent, untrustworthy, I'll informed president in the world. I honestly don't know who is more incompetent between him and Buhari (and I was a Buhari supporter).

Having said that, we all know Joe Biden has speech impediment as he has confessed to before. He is not articulate in speech, Trump too is very inarticulate in his speech, he able to fool his worshipers by repeating the same simple adjectives again and again ie, the best in the world, the greatest people, etc. Both of them are no where near Obama is public speaking.

Now this is a transcription of the clip you showed.
We cannot let this.. we've never allowed any crisis from the civil war, straight through to the pandemic of 17th all the way 16th, we have never never let our democracy sakes second fiddle, we can both have a democracy and elections at the same time correct the public health.

He was obvious talking about the coronavirus pandemic as it relates to postponement of election activities like the the primaries or the elections itself. He was trying to say that no crisis had ever affected the elections, not even the civil war or the 16th or 17th century pandemics (he was unsure of the century). He concluded that they can have the elections and at the same time deal with the public health concerns posed by the current pandemic.

Trump often argues with himself. He argues one way and then argues against his own position a few days later

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ire9vjnkdI
PoliticsRe: Countries With 5G Mobile Internet And Those Scheduled For Launch In 2020 by wirinet(m): 2:55pm On Apr 06, 2020
rookidmart:
Whenever I read stupid claims made or carried by Nigerians, I just assume that I'm suffering for sins I committed in a past life, which is why I'm Nigerian.
The same Nigerians are screaming 5G causes cancer and are destroying telecommunication masts are the same Nigerians living under high tension cables. Are you kidding me? High tension cables generates much more harmful radiation than any telecoms mast.

Foreign AffairsRe: President Weah Withdraws Ndubuisi Nwabudike's Nomination For Liberia's NEC Boss by wirinet(m):
Elxandre:
Arnold schwazzeneger became governor in California despite arriving America as a 21 year old from Austria.
I already explained why the US is a special case. If you missed it, here it is again;
"You cannot compare the US where all the real land owners had been eliminate or displaced to Africa or even Europe that has strong historical attachments to the land."

Besides Arnold Schwazzeneger planned his political strategy well by marrying into the Kennedy political dynasty. It's like marrying Into the Tinubu polical dynasty to further your political ambitions.

I'm sure you won't vote for an Igbo man born in Lagos, who contests for Lagos state governor( or whichever state you come from).
And this is just within Nigeria, not even from a foreign country like my example above.
But Lagosians have voted for many igbo people born in Lagos as state legislators. Let's start with state legislators before talking about governors. I want to see igbos vote one Yoruba man, just one Yoruba man into any other the state legislature in the south east.
At least Lagos State had appointed many igbos into the state cabinet, let's see just one reciprocal gesture from the south east.


Funny how people like you would frown at Racism and then promote tribalism in your countries.
So to you tribalism mean giving your people elective and appointive political posts in their lands, but refusing the same gesture in your own lands?
As I said, how many francois pèrès have you seen vying for political office in England or Gerhard Muller vying for appointive and elective office in France?
PoliticsRe: Countries With 5G Mobile Internet And Those Scheduled For Launch In 2020 by wirinet(m): 1:52pm On Apr 06, 2020
kiyosaki1:
One thing common with all the places with 5G network is devastating effect of death due to coronavirus, and someone is telling me there is no correlation.
This is a fallacy called Affirming the consequent. Because 5G is usually installed in high population commercial cities and the coronavirus spread more rapidly in highly populated cities, you immediately conclude that 5G is responsible for high rate of infections in highly populated cities.
Foreign AffairsRe: President Weah Withdraws Ndubuisi Nwabudike's Nomination For Liberia's NEC Boss by wirinet(m): 1:39pm On Apr 06, 2020
Elxandre:
Please keep quiet.

Donald trump has strong German origins and he's president today.
I bet if this was Africa, you would all be fixated on something has useless as tribe.
Which strong German origins does Donald Trump has? So just because his grand father was a German immigrant means he has strong German origins? Have you ever seen him boast of his "strong German origins"? I am sure he has never been to his grandfather's village.

You cannot compare the US where all the real land owners had been eliminate or displaced to Africa or even Europe that has strong historical attachments to the land.

If not for the folly of the African man, what's special about tribe, other than it been a function of where you were born?
What's special about tribe? Tribe is far more than where you are born, it's your ancestral roots, cultural heritage and language. Where you are born does not necessarily define tribe. Many igbos born in Lagos, London or Los Angeles still identify as igbos, even if some had never stepped a foot in Igboland.

Africa will never progress till we understand what is important and what is not. I might put that to a lack of education but I'm sure most of you bigots are.
You can never wish away tribalism or nationalism. It defines our sense of collective identity and sometimes collective aspiration. The Chinese, Japanese, British, Russians, Austrians, zulus, igbos, Yorubas, etc are very conscious and proud of their ethnicity or tribe.

I'm Yoruba by the way cos I know you people only see through the periscope of tribalism and ethnocentrism.
Yorubas are very tribalism in nature, so you cannot exonerate yourself (that is if you are truly yoruba). Yorubas are a bit more accommodating in accepting other people into their tribe the some other tribes in Nigeria. A white man or woman that accepts Yoruba customs, language and settles in Yorubaland is often accepted as Yoruba, ie Chief Susanne Wenger MFR, also known as Adunni Olorisha.
Foreign AffairsRe: Mast Vandalized In UK Over 5G Coronavirus Claims by wirinet(m): 7:22am On Apr 06, 2020
hermesprogidy:
Who is this Vodafone boss? Who told you Russia does not have 5G? They signed an agreement with HUawei last year.
Here's a conspiracy theory for you, America started this rumour to undermine China. China has beaten America to the 5G race hence the misinformation.
That's the koko of the matter here. The US is being left behind in 5G technology, and instead of trying to compete, the US is using all sorts of threats and conspiracy theories to undermine Chinese companies at the forefront of 5G.
Foreign AffairsRe: Mast Vandalized In UK Over 5G Coronavirus Claims by wirinet(m): 7:20am On Apr 06, 2020
Freeminda:
Thank God you accept technology to be hazard to human health. What people are saying now is 5G causes death. Not that it causes cancer, it kills those will compromised immune.

I should have insulted you, but I know you. I won't walk same path with you. Goodbye
I am always skeptical when someone says "people are saying ", who are theses people and what are they saying? Don't they have names?

What research report confirm your hypothesis that 5G kills by compromising immunity? At least many cities have been operating 5G for more than a year now, do you have statistics that people in those cities are dying faster than cities without 5G?
We should show we are worthy of our specie name - Homo sapiens sapiens. It means thinking thinking man. Thinking twice there, means we should think about everything twice, and not just jump to conclusion without thinking deeply on emotional grounds.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by wirinet(m): 4:02pm On Apr 05, 2020
Chrisbeks:
What will Democrats say before? Is there anything that Trump does that they won't criticize? Even if Trump appointed someone else, they will still criticize him.
Kushner must be a super human. He handles US foreign policy and he is also handling coronavirus.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by wirinet(m): 4:00pm On Apr 05, 2020
Chrisbeks:
Using voter ID doesn't deprive you of your fundamental right to vote, it rather safeguards the sanctity of your vote. The voter ID will not confer citizenship on you but it will help identify who is a citizen and who is not to prevent non citizens from voting. The democrats have seen a loophole in the Constitution and they are using it to allow illegal immigrants to vote. How do you explain Democrat states giving illegal immigrants driver's licenses which in many states is enough for you to vote in elections. The current electoral laws have a lot of loophole that can be taken advantage of by illegal immigrants and double voters. Unfortunately, every attempt to plug those loopholes have been rejected by Democrats who are apparently benefitting from the current situation.
You still don't get it. Voting rights is a fundamental right all over the world. It's the main element of a democratic form of government. An ID, passport, job, class, race, sex cannot be used to deprive a person from voting.

Any system can be abused. If driver's license can be given undeserved to illegal immigrants, ID cards can also be given to illegal immigrants. You do not want to burden the electoral commission of verifying all ID cards. Normal electoral procedure involves registration for voting purposes. It's during registration that proof of citizenship is often required, ie birth certificates, passports, Social security numbers and biometric data.

As I said no system can be foolproof. It behoves the dissatisfied party to complain and challenge the process in a court of law, if they feel that the elections has widespread and systemic irregularities.
The Republicans complained of these same issues after the last general elections and it was found to be false, even in states elections managed by Republicans.
I know this is the excuse Trump will give if he losses the next election
Remember, he rejected the results of the last election before he realised that he won.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by wirinet(m): 3:25pm On Apr 05, 2020
Chrisbeks:
Every attempt to make federal laws requiring the use of ID cards before voting have been resisted by the democrats. I wonder why it's only Democrats that are always resistant to voter ID laws.
Voting is a fundamental right, you don't need an ID to exercise your rights, you only need to be a citizen. An ID card does not confer citizenship. It's not even a passport that makes you a citizen. If you don't intend to travel abroad, you don't need a passport. The constitution never said you need to be employed, a student or carry ID card to be eligible to vote. It says once you are 18 and you are an American citizen, you have the right to vote.
Christianity EtcRe: 3 Reasons We Need Jesus In Our Marriages And Our Lives by wirinet(m): 10:06am On Apr 05, 2020
vac888:
The paintings/pictures on your wall at home is nothing like the one I saw in my vision. He came to me in his glory, I mean in his awesomeness in heaven. His hair is completely gray/white, his fingers and toe nails have stars that shines very bright, his eyes is like that of the sun, shining brighter than the sun, his robe is white, very white. It takes only those that have been made whole and are washed in his blood to see him. I was so scared and was full of sin and that moment I screamed and woke up.


https://www.hightaughts.com/2020/04/3-unique-reasons-why-we-need-jesus-in.html?m=1
You require the following prescription;
400g chloroquine taken intravenously, once in the morning and once at night for 4 days.

1 tablet of Puriton to stop the itching

2 tablet paracetamol 3 times a day.

And a good rest.
Foreign AffairsRe: President Weah Withdraws Ndubuisi Nwabudike's Nomination For Liberia's NEC Boss by wirinet(m):
junketer:
This is why no black nation will progress. Tribalism and xenophobia will always stand in our way of real progress. Where the white man looks for your competence to do the job the black man looks for your ethnicity first. Shame.
Why are you guys so obsessed with entering into the politic of other people? You immigrate to Poland and immediately want to become governors, legislators and president. You go to Norway and the next thing is you want to enter the political fray. If anyone complains, you start screaming racism, tribalism and shame. How many French people have you seen vying for political office in UK, despite them being close neighbours? How many French have entered German politics even though they are very closely aligned and have no Border restrictions. I would not have even mind much if you guys are liberal enough to allows others participation in your local politics, but no, you guys are isolationists, you don't even allow people from the same tribe but from neighbouring states to participate in your local politics.

Liberian have the perogative to give any appointive or elective post to anyone they like. If they say they don't want to give a foreigner or a newly naturalised person, it's their business. No one else has the right to complain.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by wirinet(m): 9:35pm On Apr 04, 2020
garetz:
BREAKING: New York "Accidentally" Delivered Coronavirus patients to the USNS Comfort... Which was supposed to only be for NON Coronavirus Patients..

The hits just keep on rolling with the morons in charge of New York..
I know that with your selective amnesia you blind, deaf and dumb to the admission on live TV by a Republican Governor (governor Kemp) that he only learnt yesterday that asymptomatic patients can speading the virus. Is incompetence a Republican targeted disease?
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by wirinet(m): 6:40pm On Apr 04, 2020
ornicus:
Guy, you know trumpanzees are cultist fanatics na. They have been programmed by a steady diet of faux news, and are incapable of logical thought.

I have been sliding quotes from 1984 and animal farm into my comments but those have gone completely over their empty heads

They are taking boxer to the knackers - the casual way some republicans the so called party of life say its OK for the old to die to 'save the economy'

Oceania has always been at war with East Asia. Trump will say one thing, they will jump on it. He will deny it the next minute and they will claim he never said it.

For them ignorance is strength.
Imagine touting a travel ban as the biggest achievement by Trump in the coronavirus war. They talk like a simple ban on flights from China and much later on Europe stopped the virus from decimating the US. They expect very little from Trump that even if he farts, that would be a major achievement.

The Republicans are more interested in the stock market than US lives. When they were warned about the virus early january, the were more concerned about their stocks than the lives of Americans.

That's the nature of Trump and his worshippers. He says one thing today and his supporters will defend the position with their lives, he then says the exact opposite the very next day and they would deny with with their mother's lives that he never said so in the first place, even if you show them video evidence. The craziest one to me was when during his meeting with Putin in Helsinki, he said " I don't see any reason why it would be" (Russia that interfered with the US elections. The very next day he said what he said was that "I don't see any reason why it would'nt be" and his goons are ready to defend him both ways, even though the speech is on YouTube.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by wirinet(m): 11:35am On Apr 04, 2020
garetz:
You know the problem with libtards is always English comprehension. Did you even watch the video you posted? Trump said they are working very hard and they hope that by April with the changing weather conditions that the virus disappears, he even clearly used the words "I hope that's true". So in your libtard world you can't differentiate between when someone says he hopes something will happen and when he says it will definitely happen? Y'all really need to go back to your basic English language classes, why does one always have to explain to you things that were said in simple English?
Since you guys have been conditioned not to believe your ears and eyes and even your senses, I will transcribe the video for others to learn.
Here it is;
;The virus, the're working hard, looks like by April when it's gets a little warmer, it miraculous goes away. I hope that's true. But we are doing great in our country. China, I spoke with president xi and they are working very very hard, and I think it's all going to work out fine. Rough stuff, I tell you rough rough stuff, but I think it's going to work out good. We only have 11 cases and they are all getting better.

Now who takes responsibility for Trump's words? Was it the same "expert" that told him coronavirus will miraculously dissappear in April, that also told him chloroquine will cure the virus? Arguing with you guys is like arguing with the wind, you blow in all and every direction.
Even Islamic fundamentalists do not argue so senselessly.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by wirinet(m): 10:37am On Apr 04, 2020
garetz:
Dummy, If every liberal article agrees Trump issued a travel ban in response to the coronavirus threat then why did you come here to lie that he did nothing and ignored the intelligence briefings if not that you're a typical dishonest, liberal liar? If You think the travel ban was a futile venture, then you must believe the whole world is being run by idiots because almost every country in the world have implemented travel bans in response to the coronavirus threat. And you are telling another pathetic lie when you say Trump said the virus will be gone by April. That's another big fat lie !!
Enough with the lies already!!
You know that the Internet never forgets, right?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svrxYLvJYto
I know it does not matter to trumptards as they have been ordered to believe their ears and eyes, but only what they have been told to believe by Trump.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by wirinet(m): 10:18am On Apr 04, 2020
Every single day Trump still blame Obama for a pandemic that happened 3 years into his presidency. As absurd as that sound, his worshippers buy it.

When Jim acosta called Trump out yesterday he on his poor handling of the coronavirus pandemic, by asking "who dropped the ball", he mentioned "the previous administration.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-xHsSK8HTw

Here are is excuses;
Trump: I inherited an empty stockpile 3 years ago. That's Obama's fault! He then went on rambling about empty military stock. Does he expects to fight coronavirus with guns and missiles? Besides this has been fact checked and found to be a lie.- https://www.factcheck.org/2020/04/trump-falsely-claims-he-inherited-empty-stockpile/

Even if true, did he expects vaccines and medicines in the stockpiles to last forever? Don't they have shelf lives? How many did he restock in 3 years?
The most absurd of all absurdities is when asked about lack of tests, Trump said "We inherited a faulty test from the previous administration". He inherited a faulty test for a disease that didn’t exist yet.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by wirinet(m):
garetz:
You're the one that is a big clown suffering from ignorance and English comprehension problems.
You guys are living in an alternate universe, so your perception of reality is opposite of what it really is. I don't blame you guys anyway, your messiah already instruct you not to believe your very eyes or use your brains, but to accept anything that emanates from his own mouth.

1. Therapy means treatment to relieve or cure a disease. They are synonyms that can be used interchangeably so all those argument you made about use of the word therapy instead of cure is total nonsense!!
Therapy in this particular case does not mean cure. Even the CDC had warned that the Coronavirus has no cure or vaccine. So it's you people that is promoting or insinuating that any drug as a cure that is talking nonsense.

2. For you to be insinuating that this report was published by Trump's people just shows how ignorant you are. Sermo is a worldwide forum of doctors in over 150 countries in the world, a big majority of them are not even Americans. Common sense should have told you to checkout the organization doing the survey before accusing them of being Trump stooges.
You are just making unfounded assumptions and then using those assumptions as a basis to justify your views. How do you know that a vast majority of doctors are Americans - Republicans at that? If Trump’s people could get the CDC to approve chloroquine for the treatment of chloroquine just by the words of Trump, without conducting any tests, don't you think writing a "report" on Sermo.com would be a breeze?
When was the survey carried out and how many non Americans participanted. Japanese doctors are definitely excepted, as they generally disagree with the use of chloroquine for treatment of coronavirus.


3. You said the doctors surveyed were probably Republicans? From over thirty different countrieshuh In how many countries does the Republican party exist for God's sake?
As pointed out abroad. Let's see the actual results of the so called survey and not just unsubstantiated claims. Even UK is against the use of chloroquine to cure coronavirus.

4. Science doesn't work on people's opinions right? But the people whose opinions were published in that survey happen to be professionals in medical sciences. More than that, they are experts on fighting viral infections, the very people we should be listening to at this time.
Whether professionals or quacks, science does not work on personal or group opinions. You need to prove it works, with verifiable proof and explain how and why it works in a scientific paper that can be read by all.

5. It seems you can't differentiate between most prescribed and most effective. Most prescribed means the one that has been prescribed most by doctors while most effective means the one that has been most effective in the treatment of coronavirus infections. I am shocked I have to break this simple thing down for you. And please the "nothing" in the report was not referring to paracetamol. It means some doctors recommended giving no drugs at all to the patient hence their opinion was represented by the word "nothing" undecided. The report is saying "nothing" was rated the third best therapy followed by analgesics in fourth, anti - HIV drugs in fifth e.t.c
OK, my error. Nothing is nothing and not paracetamol, didn't see the comma after the nothing.
Having said that, if 'nothing' is the third best therapy, what does that say about the first and second best therapies? It means they cannot be proven to work. To prove a drug works, you need to carry out clinical trials with control. The control being placebos given to a second group. If the results of the drug are not much different from the control, the whole result is discarded.

In all these turanchi, you failed to answer the most pertinent question;
Did the use of chloroquine alter the general fatality figures of infected people in the US or any other country using it as a cure? Maybe that's the secret of Nigeria and other Africans countries, because we have less than 1% fatality rate.
Foreign AffairsRe: Donald Trump Is The Real Lifeless As Us Death Toll Of Coronavirus Pass 4000. by wirinet(m): 7:11am On Apr 04, 2020
basilico:
The new Yorkers were told by the governor to go out, mingle and party in January.
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blame teump fir york deaths?
So it's only what the governor said in January you saw? You are blind to all Trump said in January and February that "it is only one person coming from China" and that he is fully in control, even after being briefed by the intelligence community.

I think you are suffering from partial blindness or rather selective blindness
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by wirinet(m): 5:37am On Apr 04, 2020
ornicus:
Why should you be surprised? If it was Hillary Clinton in office, what would the republicans have done? Or is it only lives in Libyan embassies that matter?
If it was Hillary Clinton, the Republicans would not let us hear word for the next 10 years. The Republicans hammered on Benghazi debacle for 2 full years. Till today, they still hammer on Emails after 2 years of investigations.
If Obama was this incompetent, I am sure the Republicans would have declared a civil war.

The illiterate in the White House ignored security briefings in January that could have staved this off

Republicans read the briefings, continued his nothing to see here lines, and sold off stock. Republican stock portfolios matter.
Imagine, the intelligence agencies warned Trump and his Republican senators early january about an incoming pandemic, what did Trump and his Republican friends do? They quickly sold of their stocks and bought medical stocks, and did nothing, waiting for the pandemic to hit.
When the pandemic finally hit, they blame the Democrats and even Obama for the pandemic and the resulting deaths.

American dem governors are trying to stave off debts, while republican governors are just getting out of denial, is that not a fact?

Jared kushner is telling us that the federal stockpile is federal property, not so? And trump is being as useless as ever, expecting people to kiss the ring before they get help.
Imagine putting Jared Kushner in charge of managing the pandemic. Kushner a spoilt kid like Trump himself is now in charge of US foreign policy and domestic policy. And you wonder why they are celebrating an expected 200,000 deaths.

He is the Abba Kyari of US.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by wirinet(m): 5:07am On Apr 04, 2020
garetz:
BTW, Chloroquine has now being declared as the most effective drug in the fight against coronavirus. A survey of doctors opinions from over thirty different countries showed chloroquine as the drug with the highest number of endorsement by the doctors. Some dolts will rather have thousands more die instead of them to accept that Trump was right. The same foolish Dems who criticized Trump for touting chloroquine are no where to be found now that their own Democrat governors are now turning to the same chloroquine. You won't hear a word about it from the hypocrites.
Clowns. Who declared chloroquine as "the most effective drug?" Did you read to read the reports at all? It's all just speculations that Trump's people are pushing as a cure according to the revelation received by Trump.

https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/apr/2/hydroxychloroquine-rated-most-effective-therapy-do/
The headline of this report says it all

Hydroxychloroquine rated 'most effective [color=#99000] therapy'[/color] by doctors for coronavirus: Global survey

The survey conducted by Sermo, a global health care polling company, of 6,227 physicians in 30 countries found that 37% of those treating COVID-19 patients rated hydroxychloroquine as the “most effective therapy” from a list of 15 options.


The survey also found that the most commonly prescribed treatments are analgesics (56%), azithromycin (41%) and hydroxychloroquine (33%).

Azithromycin, known by the brand name Zithromax or Z-Pak, was rated the second-most effective therapy at 32%, followed by “nothing,” analgesics (including acetaminophen), anti-HIV drugs and cough medicine.
The headline says therapy; what does that tell you? That it's not a cure. Then is most effective therapy is from a survey of some doctors, meaning from the opinion of some doctors (probably Republican doctors ). Science do not work on opinions of anyone, it works by presenting verifiable data confirming your tests and trials, and explaining the reasons behind it. Many doctors in Nigeria will opine that "agbo" is the best therapy for lots of illnesses.

37% of 6227 physicians think that hydroxychloroquine is the “most effective therapy” from a list of 15 options.

From the survey, the most commonly prescribed drug was analgesics ( paracetamol - 56%), then azithromycin (41%) and hydroxychloroquine (33%). From this survey even "nothing" (paracetamol) was rated the 3rd most effective in the treatment of coronavirus.

As I said earlier, the flu industry is a huge scam. Pharmaceuticals make billions selling useless drugs purporting to cure the common Cold. It's your natural immunity that can fight the flu virus itself - no other drugs. This coronavirus does not significantly affect about 80% of those infected, about 20% requires hospitalisation ,while 2 - 4% on average will not survive it. If chloroquine, hydroxychloroquine or any other drug has been tested to significantly alter this statistics, let me know.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by wirinet(m): 12:58pm On Apr 03, 2020
garetz:
Is it not the same Trump that has been supporting other states that are managing the coronavirus crises well? He has even given New York more support than any other states so what's the problem with New York? Other governors are doing a tremendous job with what they got but New York that have received the highest is still blundering from pillar to post. You liberals are very hypocritical, you're praising Governor Cuomo who is directly overseeing and responsible for the New York crises, you're even talking him as a presidential material but you want to lay the blame on Trump in Washington? Is this not the height of hypocrisy that the person who is directly responsible is being hailed by you all but the person who's constitutional role is to provide support to the state is being blamed for the disastrous clusterfuck happening in the state? The clowns running New York should get their acts together and sort this mess out
So what responsibility does Trump have? He was not responsible for Puerto Rico in the aftermath of Hurrucane Maria, Trump is not responsible for handling a devastating pandemic in the US, so what is he responsible for exactly? I thought he said the US is at war and so is a war president? Maybe the Governors are the ones that handles wars in the US? If Hawaii is attacked today, maybe Trump will say it's the Governors responsibility to respond.

You same people would put all the blame in Nigeria on Buhari and not your governors.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by wirinet(m):
Goldmaxx:
I think Seun should create a dislike or downvote button.
I think Oga Seun should demand a sanity test before allowing people to register. I read some real crazy shit on nairaland, some of the craziest conspiracy theories I have ever heard. From someone staking his life that the earth is flat to the Trump guys that believes everyone that dislikes or criticise Trump is evil and should be stoned to death. These same people are usually the ones that critical of Obama or Buhari the most, not minding that even till today Obama is more popular than Trump. Barack Obama today is the most followed person on twitter with over 114 million followers. - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most-followed_Twitter_accounts

No one is saying the media shouldn't exist but they should report accurately and quote correctly. Not being dishonest.
Who should determine which reports are accurate? Fox news or Trump? How come 90% of US and international media including BBC are inaccurate, but only fox news and alt right wing media. Even fox news is sometimes criticised by Trump and you guys.

when the media are openly biased and partisan then it's becomes a problem for the people.
So the media has only started being bias, they were not bias during Obama or past administrations? They are not bias in other democracies. The media like other human endeavours is subject to personal and group biases, but it does not remove from the accuracy off their reports. As I said earlier Trump want to hear only news praising him, he better abolish the first amendment and impose media censorship like China, North Korea or Russia.

Have you ever seen trump call them out for exactly reporting what he said? They spin his words in order to satisfy their radical left base. New York times was caught changing their headline 3 fücking times just to satisfy Pelosi and her leftists dumbKrats.
You said headlines and not the subject of the report. All media house play around with headlines to attract maximum attention.
If the report is false, why not let's fact check the report.

People have lost faith in the media. They deserve every ounce of spite and tantrum designated towards them by Trump.
Trump never had faith in the media. The love -hate relationship with the media is decades old. His supporters only recently entered the fray. So it's you people that have just recently lost faith with the media. The vast majority of people still have faith in the media.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by wirinet(m): 10:08am On Apr 03, 2020
[quote author=Goldmaxx post=88046055][/quote]I have not seen a more deluded set of people than Trump worshippers. There have the worse case of schizophrenia.Don Quixote is sane compared to them.
Imagine they imagine everyone to be deepstate except Trump, including fox news. Only Trump and the Republican party are shallow state that lies the US.
All Democratic governors wants their citizens dead and so are lying about supplies.
Clinton's and Democrats are infecting face mask to spread the virus in the their states, while Bill Gates is helping them spread the virus in the UK.

Democrats filled cruise liners with corona infected illegal immigrants and bring them into the US to infect people.
Under normal circumstances, ships in distress are allowed to dock at the nearest port.
In the coronavirus pandemic, cruise ships present a perfect storm of problems for governments

Japan chose to place the Diamond Princess in quarantine while it was docked in Yokohama — which resulted in more than 700 passengers and crew becoming infected, and seven people dying.

In contrast, Pacific islands like Samoa, Tonga and Vanuatu turned away some cruise ships this month because of the health risks, despite the importance of tourism to their national economies. https://www.google.com/amp/amp.abc.net.au/article/12093768
Democrats sent a train to sink a navy hospital ship because of CHIDREN rescued from all the military battles in underground tunnels that people think are earthquakes for the past few months in different states of America. Does this sentence even make sense to a mad man?

Democrats wants to shut down or lock down states in order to hurt America? I am sure it's the Democrats also that forced European, ,Canada, Nigeria and in fact over 70% of countries in the world to lock down.

Since you have demonised the Democrats without and proof, not to talk of charge, what do you suggest to be done? Maybe Trump should ban the democratic party, throw is leaders and members in jail, and hunt their supporters to extinction. That way Trump will reign supreme with no questions from anyone.
O, I forgot, what of the press? Since the lying fake press are part of the deepstate, the first amendment should be abolished. Only news from Trump's twitter feed and fox news should be permitted.
PoliticsRe: Aba Made Facial Masks (photos) by wirinet(m): 5:56am On Apr 03, 2020
BeautifulMind2:
I hope you are wearing gloves typing, because that your area fit dey harbour Coro.
He is right. The people making the masks should wear masks and gloves, unless the whole batch us sterilised after completion, before packaging. One sneeze or cough will contaminate the whole batch. Many countries are reporting that masks from China are already contaminated with the virus they are trying to prevent.
PoliticsRe: Aba Made Facial Masks (photos) by wirinet(m):
emeijeh:
How dare you ?! Op

Why use Aba?
Makes the title seem u calling it inferior.
Why not say "Nigerian made"?
Is Aba not in Nigeria, or is it in Japan? Abeg give credit to Aba guys, they are making us proud. Besides, it's not the OP that called it Aba made, it's from the labelling. The labelling on the face masks advertised it as Aba made, this is because people are afraid of masks from China.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by wirinet(m): 2:51pm On Apr 02, 2020
ornicus:
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/04/01/fauci-coronavirus-security-160901

For anyone who has doubts that trump supporters are cultist lunatics
I honestly don't know who are more fanatical, ,Trump's followers or Mohammed's followers? Both get irrational when their messiah is being questioned, and are prepared to attack and even kill anyone who disbelieve anything their prophet says.
Even here on nairaland, Trump followers get abusive and verbally violent once anyone points out Trump's incompetencies and lies.
Oga seun might need to create a section for them complete with signing an undertaking.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by wirinet(m):
garetz:
As a result of the apparent incompetence of the liberal clowns running New York. They should learn from conservative governors how to rise to the occasion
I have never in my entire life seen a more incompetent administrator or manager than Donald J Trump. He had bungled every responsibility he had ever been called upon to undertake. He does not know how to take responsibility for anything, but quick to take credit for the efforts of others.
He bankrupt all his own businesses. His response to the coronavirus was the worst in the whole world.
I pray God bring him back as president come November, then we will see the fastest fall of any superpower the world had ever seen.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by wirinet(m): 10:42pm On Apr 01, 2020
Presidenf Obama warned the incoming president that the worst threat facing the US was a global pandemic rising out of China and decimating the world and US economy. Obama actually carried out a drill on how to deal with the pandemic and put in structures and man power to deal with it.
What did Trump do ignored all the warnings and dismantled all the structures.
Before Trump’s inauguration, a warning: ‘The worst influenza pandemic since 1918’

Seven days before Donald Trump took office, his aides faced a major test: the rapid, global spread of a dangerous virus in cities like London and Seoul, one serious enough that some countries were imposing travel bans.

In a sober briefing, Trump’s incoming team learned that the disease was an emerging pandemic — a strain of novel influenza known as H9N2 — and that health systems were crashing in Asia, overwhelmed by the demand.

“Health officials warn that this could become the worst influenza pandemic since 1918,” Trump’s aides were told. Soon, they heard cases were popping up in California and Texas.

The briefing was intended to hammer home a new, terrifying reality facing the Trump administration, and the incoming president’s responsibility to protect Americans amid a crisis. But unlike the coronavirus pandemic currently ravaging the globe, this 2017 crisis didn’t really happen — it was among a handful of scenarios presented to Trump’s top aides as part of a legally required transition exercise with members of the outgoing administration of Barack Obama.

And in the words of several attendees, the atmosphere was “weird” at best, chilly at worst.

POLITICO obtained documents from the meeting and spoke with more than a dozen attendees to help provide the most detailed reconstruction of the closed-door session yet. It was perhaps the most concrete and visible transition exercise that dealt with the possibility of pandemics, and top officials from both sides — whether they wanted to be there or not — were forced to confront a whole-of-government response to a crisis. The Trump team was told it could face specific challenges, such as shortages of ventilators, anti-viral drugs and other medical essentials, and that having a coordinated, unified national response was “paramount” — warnings that seem eerily prescient given the ongoing coronavirus crisis.

https://www.politico.com/amp/news/2020/03/16/trump-inauguration-warning-scenario-pandemic-132797
Now, when the pandemic finally hit, Trump is blaming Obama for not preparing enough for the pandemic.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by wirinet(m):
kokaneprodigy:
this your second paragraph says a lot about your reasoning, which is just way below par. Very embarrassing question you asked there.

Anyone with a quarter brain knows when presidents/ heads of state speak on technical areas in particular, they are practically saying what the experts they’ve hired on that subject advised.

Were you expecting him to start listing those that advised him?

Once again Don’t ask me stupid questions
This shows you are incapable of passing an exam. You have been yapping about expert medical advice that made Trump to declare chloroquine a cure for coronavirus. I asked a simple question; which medical experts adviced Trump to announce chloroquine a cure for coronavirus, and you are talking off point.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by wirinet(m): 9:17pm On Apr 01, 2020
kokaneprodigy:
If you read between the lines you’ll know even the FDA agrees it works. They just need to run more tests + plus how to mitigate the side effects before throwing their weights behind it.

Unless you want to tell me Trump just woke one morning and said Chloroquine can be used to treat it and FDA approved.
Read between the lines? Why does anyone need to read between the lines of FDA's official statements? If the FDA have tested a drug that works, they would write it in the lines and not between the lines.

Here is the lines from FDA's official website;
Because COVID-19 has never been seen in humans before, there are currently no vaccines to prevent or drugs to treat COVID-19 approved by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA). The FDA is working with vaccine and drug manufacturers to develop new vaccines for and find drugs to treat COVID-19 as quickly as possible. Meanwhile, some people and companies are trying to profit from this pandemic by selling unproven and illegally marketed products that make false claims, such as being effective against the coronavirus.

These fraudulent products that claim to cure, treat, or prevent COVID-19 haven’t been evaluated by the FDA for safety and effectiveness and might be dangerous to you and your family.
https://www.fda.gov/consumers/consumer-updates/beware-fraudulent-coronavirus-tests-vaccines-and-treatments
Oya provide you own link, so we can read both on and between the lines.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by wirinet(m): 6:47pm On Apr 01, 2020
kokaneprodigy:
You don’t need experts to get the population of a state or country you can easily google it. If you look at the screenshot below about Seoul on wiki you’ll see that population is just below elevation and the former wasn’t populated and he erroneously picked the figure. It can happen to anyone.

Trump can’t wake up and just say Chloroquine is a potential cure without a medical adviser even FDA hasn’t denied this. FDA was only saying they are yet to approve it cos it’s yet to pass all the necessary tests.
See excuse. Trump worshippers make more excuses for their God than Christians, muslims and Jews added together. Trump being omniscient and knowing about South Korea than anyone on the planet did not know the population of Seoul.

Can you please name the medical adviser or expert that gave Trump the advice that chloroquine can cure any coronavirus.

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