₦airaland Forum

horsepower102:
I know it’s common for everyone in Nigeria to issue useless threats left and right. It’s fine with me, if that strokes your ego. But this thread was about pointing out the anomaly in the Nigerian system of boundaries creation.

It's not threat nor ego strokes. Try and take one inch of Ikwerre land from rivers state and you will see the red eye of Ikwerre people like Wike and Amaechi. I am sure this will unite wike and Amaechi.

I am yet to find anywhere where I suggested any war or fighting for any land.

No one gives away lands acquired through purchase or war easily, without a fight. Fights over lands can last decades or even millenia.

But one Thing you need to understand is that igbos are people who have proven themselves when I comes to fighting.

Give instances where igbo people have proven themselves by how many wars they had won

The other two majority groups know what we are capable of if we decide to go all out.

If any minority group threaten our very existence, we will take care of them.

You mean you can take on the two majority groups and the minorities as well?

This why people say you guys like empty chest beating. The south east is not in a position to fight the whole country. Your territory is too tiny, too congested and too isolated. You lack natural defenses like mountains and swamps.

But in the meantime let’s continue with one Nigeria. After all igbos are milking it without any reservation.

You are now talking. It's through economic, educational and technological domination that the igbos can impose themselves on Nigeria and not through all these gra gra.

michlins:
sir please don't waste your time on these lots. Just allow them churn kids without proper care and maybe someday,the kids will stand up for ask them the essence of living

To them children are gifts from God, it's when they are uncared for they become demons as adults.
Nigerian still have 19th century mentality.

yvelchstores:
good for you. I am happy where I am and where I am going. As a mother, I will never advise a woman to abort her child especially when she has an option to keep it.

The decision should be hers and her spouse and not that religious fundamentalists. It is the woman that would go through the pains of pregnancy and the struggle of nurturing the baby. Some women don't even want to have babies, while some can put their lives on the line to have a baby.
Everyone has different needs, purpose and ambitions.

Yamleg:
How many in your vicinity have you adopted? Otuocha

No mind am. There are many abandoned kids on the streets, how many has she adopted? I am sure there are suffering children within her extended family, how many is she taking care of?

PrincewithGod:
Murder is not sin? This must be gospel according to satan.

Look up the meaning of murder and look up the meaning of abortion, the see if they are the same.

Yewandequeen:
You all are advicing she keeps it, hell no!
Many are not getting this picture clearly. The child spacing isn't the problem here.

Her health is important, she had cs just 8months ago and you want her body to under another expansion again without completely healing?
It would have been okay for her to keep if she had vagina birth but for a CS, she better flush it to avoid complications.

Don't mind Nigerian and moral hypocrisy. Most of them screaming abortion is sin, abortion is murder has commited or enabled an abortion one time or the other.

It's a personal family decision. The health of the mother must be considered with the financial situation of the family. Since the mother just had C/S just 8 months ago, normal delivery is out of the question. The family (which usually translate to the husband ) must prepare financially for C/S. C/S plus ante natal can cost up to N300,000 to N500,000. This is apart from the expenses and convenience of catering for the 2 babies.

Dabss:
A breastfeeding mother is 99% unlikely to get pregnant. Same odds as a condom you dolt.

For oyimbo, but not for we blacks. Osun woman fit dey breastfeed twins, and get pregnant with another twins 5 months later.

sexylassie2:
argue which blindly, middle east isnt a country, it consists of many countries in different zones and with different weather

OK, which of the middle eastern countries has harmattan and rainy season (instead of the 4 seasons of Summer, Autumn, Winter and spring)?

sexylassie2:
how is harmattan winter and how are they in winter?

winter and harmattan and 2 different stuff

do you know exactly what is winter?

You are just arguing blindly. OK middle East is not in winter season right now, they are in harmattan season.
Are you happy now.

Mutemenot:
This maybe her last chance of having a baby, fibroid isn't a child's play. Please keep the baby, I know someone who's wife took in 4 months after birth. Both children 're doing well now.

4 months after a cesarean section? If the mother dies, all we will get from you guys will be consolation verses from the bible. The poor husband will carry his cross alone.

fergie001:
You see your problem.

How will the NEDC be funded?

I honestly don't know, as I have not seen the bill itself, but I suspect it will be oil revenue from the Niger delta, as I don't know what the north east produces outside boko haram.

Ordinarily, they shouldn't approve anything. Since they approved the NEDC, then approve for all the six geopolitical zones. Do you und now?

I still don't understand how the other five zones hope to get the funds to develop their regions. We will need to see the bill itself to know the source of their funding.

Lamanii22:
Give birth to the baby please... Let me adopt it....

Be prepared to adopt not just the new baby, but also her old baby and the husband too, as it's highly unlikely she would survive another cesarean 18 months after the previous one.

fergie001:
Try to und before you attack.
What is the difference between Niger Delta and South South

Who did I attack? Please remain on topic. How are the other proposed regional development commission to be funded? Including the proposed South West Development Commission.

fergie001:
One was debated today...South South Development Bill.

I ask what for...we already have NDDC.

This people started it with NEDC....they should just kukuma give the six to balance the equation.

Niger Delta Development Commission is being funded by resources from the Niger Delta . Where will the funds for the other five development commission com from? I just hope you are not hoping to collect oil money from the Niger delta to develop your region, when already you collect oil money monthly to run states in your region.

Lostz:
why must you pay for screening when you are donating free? the state should pay for that

Abio... you are donating your blood free, but the Lagos State you are donating to is charging between N10,000 - N15,000 just to screen the blood. Are the doctors, nurses and lab technicians not being paid salary from the state coffers? Are the equipments not property of the Lagos State governments? Is it reagents that cost N15,000?

Lostz:
hospital should pay for willing donors then sell the blood like they normally do

Gbam! Simple law of demand and supply. If the price is right, some people would make a career of selling their blood. In the West some people sell their sperm to various sperm banks to get by.

delpee:
The problem is that there's shortage of blood in the blood bank. People in dire situations need to be given blood urgently but our society us not enlightened enough to understand that blood donation is healthy and a form of social responsibility/civic duty.

There must always be blood at hand for pregnant women who are due for delivery and surgical cases. Sometimes it's a life and death issue. I hope this will not lead to maternal deaths.

So because of these reasons, families of women giving birth must be blackmailed to donate blood? Where have you seen such stupid policy in the history of mankind? The scam about the whole thing is that the blood that is extracted through blackmail is sold to those who desperately need it.

YorubaKinging:
The Lying scientists at it again
Nigeria is not hot like Saudi arabia, neither is it hot like Tunisia or isreali all of which have confirmed case
The truth is that
God always save his own people
Tribe of Judah, the envy of the world

Ignorance. The middle east is experiencing winter right now.

Zooposki:
Middle East and Australia are hotter and corona is spreading like wild fire there.

Don't know of Australia, but middle East is not hotter than Nigeria now.

sacx:
It's too early to say blacks are immune to it. The virus has an incubation period of two weeks, so it's only logical to give it time

How many of the periodic flu epidemics have affected black people? ie SARS, MERS

chewwie:
How on earth is this Trump's fault? Una sef

It's Buhari's fault.

PrimadonnaO:
What do you mean a single lady can't say no to the Oba of Benin?

That kind of nonsense tradition can't be binding on me... to marry a fetish polygamous man... and to lose my freedom in every goddamn way. Bound by senseless rules.

During Henry viii, no by a single lady could land her in the dungeon, or worst still, in the gallows.

Henry viii married 6 wives and took Britain out of the Catholic Church because the Pope condemned his multiple marriages.

You are talking like this because you live in a free modern society. If you lived just two centuries ago in Europe, you would have no rights at all, unless you are part of a privileged few.

Greyworld:
Now your cousin would be your half brother or sister. It's okay o.

Just imagine the authority and power wield by the English Monarch were to be in Africa Especially Nigeria. Just imagine.

The English Monarch used to wield far greater power than any current African king.

Deeminaj:
Audio happiness.who would love to share her man with another woman,talkless her own younger sister.

Speak for yourself. Some women would rather share her man with 3 other women than remain lonely and single for life. Men are becoming a scarce commodity, while eligible bachelors are becoming rare like gold.

Donelli:
There's no record showing you have sense. Should I now assume you don't have sense at all or blame you for not keeping the records?

I have tons of records showing I have sense. I have numerous certificates, I have over 200 pages of nairaland posts, I have tons of Facebook posts.

Oya, tell me where I can find any evidence of a great Biafran kingdom or empire.

Sometimes you guys make statements, thinking you're smart but only end up proving your shallowness. Your country nigeria that stopped the teaching of history in schools, which a lot of data is being lost with time, does it now mean one should conclude certain things never existed JUST BECAUSE the records are not kept.

You do not need history to be taught in schools before you can learn history. We are living in the information age, where any and all information is at your fingertips.
What do you mean a lot of data is lost? Are you saying all data of a Biafran empire is lost?

You are suffering from cognitive dissonance, you accuse our schools of not teaching history, but then assert that the records which the history should be based on are lost or not kept.

Furthermore, migration is a natural phenomenon that happens for various reasons among different individuals. And unless you're typing from the comfort(?) of your home village, that makes you an hypocrite.

People migrate for various reasons, it could be conflict, famine, environmental or economic. So which of the reason is responsible for Igbo mass migration since the beginning of the last century?

I am not typing from the comfort of my village, but at the same time I am not making noise that my village is the most prosperous place in Nigeria.

MONIKERREVEALER:
See as fear don make a coward like you to dey shake hand dey double quote pesin!!!

You people always talk in ironies. A person flees from battle, you term the person brave, but call the person that dies fighting a coward.

A person takes action to achieve his objectives you call coward, but a person that wails continuously on social media you call brave.

The only one experiencing acute and severe pain on here is the lousy loser who extremely hates (though in reality it is dreadful fear) the great igbos BUT, still was unable to take his lecherous eyes off their daughters and married one of the daughters of the people he CLAIMS to hate!!!

Hahahahahahahahahaha!!!

What a complete confused tosser you are!!!

Getaway you cowardly suicidal maniac!!!

Another irony. You that insults Yorubas, hausas, Fulanis, and even other other tribes with such words as bastards, cows, demons, slaves, animals, and many other derogatory terms as love, but people who never for once issue any insulting words, to call hate.

Show me evidence that shows I hate igbos. Maybe I hate stupid, irrational, illiterate and hate filled igbos (or any other tribe for that matter).

gidgiddy:
You mean the same crude that has not helped anybody Nigeria? I dont know the point of all the crude Oil in the world if it has not translated to better life for most Nigerians

Anyone still relying on crude in this world that is shifting to renewable energy is fooling themselves

You mean the crude that help build Lagos and Abuja has not helped anybody in Nigeria? The crude money that your governors run to Abuja to collect every month to pay salaries, Build roads, and other white elephant projects have not helped anybody in Nigeria?

The crude with which provides the foreign currency with which you guys depend on for your importation and trading business has not helped anybody in Nigeria?

Keep living in denial.

[quote author=MONIKERREVEALER post=87077991][/quote]But it's paining you to the point of suicide because; the north and britain have the crude, instead of you.

[quote author=MONIKERREVEALER post=87077991][/quote]But it's paining you to the point of suicide because;

the north and britain have the crude

Donelli:
Migration does not equate prosperity, else, the fulanis would have been the most prosperous. When you make such comments, one might think the "other regions" are flowing with milk and honey. If so, why are the locals not themselves wealthy? And why does the issue of Easterners dominating their hosts come up? Cos one can only dominate who s/he is greater than. How do you reconcile these two accusations in one breath
Maybe you can help me understand better.

What you wrote up there makes no sense at all. Fulanis migrate because they are nomads, they are cattle herder's and their original home is no longer appropriate for grazing cows. This is because the Sahara has been moving south since the last millennium, so naturally the Fulanis have been moving southwards following river courses. Obviously Fulanis realised they cannot be prosperous in their original home.

So if you say igbos were very prosperous in their homes, why the need to migrate all over Nigeria, and currently all over the world in droves? Prosperous people prosper in their homes. It's hard to find Japanese, Norwegians, Saudis migrating all over the world looking for prosperity. The few you find in the US and UK are usually there for educational purposes. Trump is even asking for immigrants from Norway instead of "shithole countries".

Great kingdoms they were, truly. Yet it doesn't take away the fact that other unsung kingdoms, empires, kindreds, and what have you, also hold their own. It's just like saying, if the Songhai empire was so great, why wasn't it greater than the Roman empire. These are unnecessary comparisons.

We are not comparing greatness of empires, what I am saying if the igbos had a great empire, how come history had no record of it. No records of its kings, it's cities, it's literature, it's architecture, it's military conquests, nothing.
We have had many great empires starting from sumeria, mesopotamia, Babylonia, Egypt, Persia, Greek, Roman, ottoman, British and lots of others.

Gnaeusmagnus:
Actually, no region can survive restructuring, except the South South, and even the South South itself would run into trobule in a few years.

In my opinion, what is driving the cry for restructuring is two ideas

1.The North (usually defined as the Hausas...even though at least 50% of the North isn't Hausa) is eating Southern money

2.Under regionalism, we lived much better.

First, regions were not better than what we have today. The fact is, most people in all the regions lived in rural areas. And the spending was disproprtionately on the small educated class with the idea that they would develop Nigeria....and since it is the educated class that writes the story...that's why you hear many of them chanting 'Things were better'. Things were not better....and infact things would get worse if we had kept the regions.

Second...agriculture in Nigeria is largely subsistence. If we restructure into regions, or break up, the amount we produce agriculture wise would be too low to support one state , talk-less of one region. In a country where less than 10% of the farmers are practicing large scale mechanzed farming....the money generated won't be enough to support everyone.

Third,the biggest business in Nigeria is importing stuff and reselling. Infact the reason why many Easterners want restructuring is because they think that the oil money will sustain their business. Well, while I don't oppose anyone agitating for his interest...the truth is that under such a system, we would run out of forex in months...and be forced to take loans to sustain ourselves (because oil is on a downward trend)

Fourth, anyone telling me that the regions are going to use their human resources to devlop is on a long thing. Nigerians like welfare...which is why the North does not want to be free of oil from the South...and why some Easterners want Biafra and restructuring...because they think alike. In Nigeria...we see raw materials as an unlimited source of income to be shared...and that in our mind constitutes development. That is not development...development is using your limited resources to be productive.

In my opinion, Nigerians should forget restructuring, and instead force themselves to become a nation where every state is producing stuff for the global market....industrialization. It is because the road to industrial development is long and hard, and Nigerians want ready made, that they are chanting restructuring. Meanwhile, North, and South are non-producing entities...

Until every state in Nigeria is a producer, not a parasite...then we can talk restructuring. Because if we restructure now...we would be fighting resource wars within 10 years. And you won't like it.

And no, I am not speaking for the North. As far as I am concerned, the North needs this message of mine the most. They need to invest in education and industrial development urgently..especially as Boko Haram has shown them how neglect of their youth has led to problems.

As for the South East....you guys cannot have Biafra without changing your economic structure. Like the North, you need to invest in industrial and educational development, and make industries the center of your economy. Otherwise, Biafra would be a broke nation taking loans like Nigeria...because the main business is importing and selling stuff...stressing the forex savings.

Same for the South West. You will suffer under restructuring too. If you don't reduce your oil dependency.

You have summed up what I have been saying all these years, restructuring is a meaningless term. In fact it's another euphemism for getting more money out of crude of the Niger Delta. The three major ethnic groups igbo, Yoruba and hausa fulani are jostling for a greater share of the oil money.
I assume you are from a minority tribe and not from the big three, because the big three tribes don't think beyond terms that is ultimately about controlling and sharing Niger delta oil resources.

The only road to development is through a concise development plan, which starts with proper education, research, infrastructure and long term goals. That's how Japan developed less than 20 years after being completely devastated in a war, that's how China became an economic giant in 30 years.

selemempe:
yoruba man is now telling us his fears about Biafra...wow interesting

I am not yoruba. We have the crude you guys want to kill yourselves over.