₦airaland Forum

tunize:
based on the write up shall i will sey he does both manufacturing and assembling of cars since 70% of its materials are produced locally.

Can you please list the 70% of materials produced locally?

AutoJoshNG:

70% of their Innoson car parts are produced locally while the rest are imported from Japan, China and Germany.

I get your drift, but 70% is an over exaggeration. The whole engine, tyres, steel panels, electronics are all imported. It is few items like upholstery that can be sourced locally.

gidgiddy:
That's why you are a backward African. The countries you mentioned, freedom of speech is highly cherished. Go to YouTube and see how many Americans are saying they want to kill Donald Trump. Even Madonna, the famous singer, said she wants to bomb Donald Trump in the white house. Why do you think she wasnt arrested? Because all she did was talk. Go to Google and hear how many anti-monachist say they want to wipe out the queen and the royal family. Nobody is even getting arrested for that for the simple reason that the law is far more concerned about what you do, not what you say. Crime is usually an action, not just mere words alone.

I am aware you are prepared to strap a bomb on your chest to defend your supreme leader, but you cannot be allowed to turn logic on its head.

This is what madonna said;

Yes, I’m angry. Yes, I am outraged. Yes, I have thought an awful lot about blowing up the White House. But I know that this won’t change anything. We cannot fall into despair. As the poet W.H. Auden once wrote, on the eve of World War II, we must love one another or die. I choose love. Are you with me? Say this with me, we choose love….

Tell me how this is a treat to kill Trump.

Now compare this quote with that of your spiritual leader;

BUHARI BE READY FOR US, WE ARE DONE WITH PEACEFUL AGITATION, NOW BLOOD WILL FLOW, WE WILL KILL BUHARI AND BEHEAD HIM IF HE ENTERS ENUGU, NO AMOUNT OF POLICE WILL SAVE HIM”

Any one that makes a similar statement in the US will go to jail.

This is a statement that landed a US citizen ,Robert Watts in 1966;

If they ever make me carry a rifle the first man I want to get in my sights is L.B.J.'

It was after the case we nt all the way to the supreme Court that Mr Robert Watts was freed.
Mr Watts was telling his colleagues that if he was forced to draft into the military, the first person he would shoot will be the president. The supreme Court held that the statement was not a threat. read more of the judgement here - https://www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/394/705

There is no law anywhere that allows the security forces to go and kill a person just for talking. Kanu has every right to talk, and if he says something which the authorities think is threatening, charge him to court.

kanu has no rights to threaten the president, the security forces, Hausas, Fulanis, Yorubas and people who do not share his vision.

How can you arrest him peacefully when people like you are ready to lay down your lives to prevent that arrest, coupled with the threats and Biafra Security forces surrounding him.

It is in only a backward society that Soldiers are sent after a man for talking, yet Soldiers are doing nothing against killer Herdsmen slaughtering thousands of Nigerians every year just because they are of the same ethnic stock as the president.

Nothing concerns Biafra with Nigerians being slaughtered by Fulani Herdsmen. If IPOB wants to be an advocacy group fighting for Nigerians killed and displaced by Fulani Herdsmen, good; but that is another topic.

XhosaNostra:
No, I understand that. But aren't the herdsmen killing & torturing people or is it an exaggeration? I was thinking more in terms of the collective, not just one group.

I thought we were discussing the biafran agitation and it's comparison with the apartheid struggle of black south Africans. The biafran struggle has little to do with the herdsmen issue, in fact the middle belt regions had suffered far more from herdsmen than south east.

Herdsmen/farmers clash predates the formation of nigeria and in fact predates much of human history. It took a frightening dimension when Herdsman started organising themselves into militias and started attacking farming communities. These started with this democratic dispensation from 1999, but has now exasperated into a major security challenge. This is due to complacency, incompetence and even sabotage by either the government or elements within the government over the years.
The first solution of solving the herdsmen issue is closing and subsequently finding a way to manage the northern border, as most of these herdsmen are pouring into nigeria unabated from all fulani bearing countries of the Sahel. Without that the government is wasting it's time. I remember when armed robbery was rife in lagos during Obasanjo regime, OBJ simply read the riot act to the Benin Republic president and sealed the western border. The Beninoise behaved and car theft vanished in lagos. I doubt this government or any other government for that matter can seal the northern border.
Read this report - https://medium.com/@gfburton/background-report-the-fulani-herdsmen-part-i-key-findings-introduction-and-history-383c10f8137c

XhosaNostra:
I get your point & it's very unfortunate. Hopefully one things will change. The thing is, Nigerians also have to make noise about the atrocities taking place in your country. Perhaps form a military wing or something. You can't just sit back & hope things will change on their own.

With that said, let me make a few corrections. A lot happened during Apartheid. Some people disappeared without a trace, only to find out later during the TRC that they were killed & fed to crocodiles or buried in secret mass graves. Mandela himself was sentenced to death, but got lucky because the international community was watching. His death sentence was converted to life (hard labour), where him & others spent hours working in the quarry. There they were breaking & crushing rocks. He contracted a lung disease due to inhaling dust. It's the same lung disease that eventually took his life. So no, he didn't come out with his health intact & neither was he sentenced to just 27 years in jail. He got released because the international community got involved & they were calling for his release. Had his case not attract the attention of the world, he would have gone down the gallows like countless others before him. Our situations are similar, what makes yours more tragic though is that it's your own people doing all these monstrous acts. It is heartbreaking to say the least. But there's always light at the end of the tunnel. We also never thought we'd ever see the day of liberation, but here we are 20-somewhat years later, enjoying the fruits of many years of struggle. People died in the process, but it was not all in vain. It paid off in the end.

Mandela may not have died in Robben Island, but the time he spent there had lifelong complications. He came out a broken & sickly man.

He's the 2nd one from the right. The row nearest to the wall.

Dont get taken in by the victim mentally of a small vocal minority. There is no comparison whatsoever between what you guy suffered in the hands of white apartheid government and what is happening in Nigeria. The igbos have representatives in all tiers of government. Their business, political, social and religious elites are all over the country mingling and interacting freely with other Nigerians. It is a few (maybe a little more than a few) traders, low income earners or jobless youths and some igbos in diaspora led by one jobless youth domiciled in London that is screaming all over social media and radio.

A few jobless youth cannot determine the fate of a whole tribe, where there are legal representatives of the people.

gidgiddy:
No matter what he said , nobody stays to get killed when their enemy is coming to kill them, particularly when they are unarmed to defend themselves

What you should be concerned about is why you are in a democracy and Nigerian Soldiers are going to a person's house to kill people for no reason

But how can you be concerned? All you know is that Lord Lugard made you a Nigerian in 1914 and Nnamdi Kanu should join you in accepting that slave mentality

Fa fa fa foul. Democracy does not give you the rights to threaten others, much less the head of state. Try that shit in the US with a threat to kill the president, FBI and secret service will come after you. Threaten to cut off the queens head and Scotland Yard will come for you.

You guys know how to excuse and justify Sally's Kanu's erratic madness.

kid23:
So how come part of Adamawa was allowed to be part of Nigeria

I thought Kanu said only he and his IPOB group studied history.

Adamawa was part of British Cameroon. Southern cameroon was strongly politically affiliated to Nigeria (remember Ziks party was National Council of Nigeria and the Cameroons). Britain gave it's 2 regions (that it divided British Cameroons into) 2 options, to join Nigeria or to join Cameroons ( independence was not an option). The referendum was organised by the British (well let's say UN). Northern Cameroons voted to join Nigeria and southern cameroon voted to join the Cameroon.
This was just before the Republican constitution of 1963.

AGideon:
I don't see any genuine reason why we can't have our Biafra through referendum, except Nigerians will be hypocritical about it!

Because Nnamdi (Azikiwe) objected to the insertion of a referendum in our infependence constitution of which another Nnamdi (Kanu) is now attempting to impose.

My opposition to secession–Zik
- https://www.thenewsnigeria.com.ng/2017/06/my-opposition-to-secession-zik/

midolian:
http://dailypost.ng/2019/02/03/nnamdi-kanu-explains-ran-away-nigeria-abandoned-followers/

https://dailypost.ng/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Nnamdi-Kanu.jpg

How do you or your IPOB goons reconcile these two statements;

Tell Buhari that I’m in Aba and any person who comes to arrest Nnamdi Kanu in Biafra land will die here. I’ll never go on exile I assure you - www.thecable.ng/anyone-who-tries-to-arrest-me-will-die-says-nnamdi-kanu/amp

And

“I ran away because Jubril (Buhari) sent the military to my house to come and kill me and they expected me to stay and confront them, I’m unarmed just as IPOB members are unarmed group"

zeromeridian:
Is Atiku from Cameron or not.?
Kanu keep teaching Afonjas History 101

Have you paid your N5,000 monthly IPOB dues. Kanu is waiting. London is a very expensive city to live in without a job.

futurism:
I think Nnamdi Kanu was speaking based on history. Unfortunately, we don't study history in Nigeria.

Which history are you talking about? That Atiku is a cameroonian?

Say IPOB don't study history. Most educated Nigerians or those over 60 years of age knows that Adamawa joined Nigeria in 1961.

skyman200:
i prefer him who is a foreigner to some Nigerian politicians who loot much from our treasury.

Who is a foreigner? Definitely not Atiku.

Besides, have you paid your N5,000 IPOB dues for this month?

jlinkd78:
Your hate for Kanu has made u call him several derogatory names but u ended up agreeing with him that the Cameroon original nativity of Atiku has some merit. Nnamdi Kanu with this revelation has once proven wrong his enemies and confirmed he is truly a scholar of contemporary history. While I as a person prefers Atiku over Buhari and would wish him to win in d forthcoming elections, it must be emphasized that people should give Kanu d respect he deserves for furnishing us with information that appears hidden.

Your worship of a man like you has destroyed your medulla oblongata. Which revelation did kanu reveal? That there was a referendum in 1961 that absorbed northern Cameroon into Nigeria? So that is a revelation for IPOB youth? IPOB youths must be truly ignorant. Go and read about the party of Azikiwe - NCNC, the party he used in winning the first president of Nigeria.
So according to Kanu's revelation, which Cameron will Atiku be deported to.

Even Barack Obama was born in Hawaii, a state that joined the US in 1959.

TIGRITIS:
For the first time, I agree with nnamdi kanu.

To prove kanu wrong, atiku must remove his trousers and show us his birth certificate

Corrinthians sarrki NgeneUkwenu rusher14 Okoroawusa madridguy Tetehjewels StOla donphiilopus ORIENTATION101 Afamed Helinues

Watin you dey find for Atiku trouser. If you see the tin for atiku trouser, you go faint o.

The tin for atiku trouser dey service 4 wives and plenty concubines, and no one complain, in fact all of them wan die for atiku neck, or should I say atiku trouser.

Ay77:
It's now clear to me that Nnamdi is mad!!
I think he is only Nigerian.
Weerey

And he is not even nigerian, he holds British passport and claims to be biafran.

StOla:
Atiku must refund all the money he earned as former Vice-President of Nigeria for 8yrs.

He must be deported back to Cameroon if he does not present his birth certificate in 3days.

Birth certificates are not mandatory for elections and indeed every official dealings with government. A simple affidavit would suffice. Almost all the people born pre-independence do not have birth certificates, unless born abroad. Even today lots of people born in villages do not have birth certificates.

StOla:
Atiku has to be disqualified if he does not present his birth certificate showing his father's name.


Obasanjo should shed more light on what he discovered about Atiku's parental ancestry.

No wonder Obasanjo tried to have him impeached as Vice-President.

This is the same issue I had with PDP when they brought out the stupid certificate issues. How can you suddenly realised that Atiku is not a Nigerian, after this man had been elected governor and vice president of Nigeria, He had contested for president in 2007 and this was never brought up. APC should rely on votes and not on technicalities to win elections.

WORLDPEACE:
It's not even illegal for her to be married by 15 under traditional marriage law in many parts of the country. The age of sexual consent can be as low as 10 as long as it is done under marriage. Many of us don't know our laws.

But when Ese Oruru was allegedly "abducted" by Yenusa, you guys did not let the internet rest, the age of consent was over 21 then.
Nigerian is the new definition for hypocrisy.

Okoyeebs:
Momodu left because they refused to give him money as others have been doing.

He's always been a maggot feeding fat from corruption and he's a shameless praise singer of thieves.

Dele Momodu was s presidential candidate and went to the polling unit with his wife and family. At the end of the votes, he had just 1 vote in that unit. Even his wife didn't vote the bloated beggar.

How do you know the one vote was from his wife? Dele might not even trust himself to be president and voted against himself.

dockokwus:
Honestly I also didn't see much wrong in her interview,maybe a slight aggressiveness towards Atiku/Obi which could easily have been explained and excused, but this reply of hers is making me to think her critics may actually have been right in claiming she came with a preconceived and preplanned agenda to rubbish the PDP presidential team ,which she even miserably failed at.
For a few crumbs and family ties,has Kadaria buried her career?It would be unfortunate.

How do you reconcile the red quotes to arrive at the conclusion in blue. This is called an oxymoron

deomelo:
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You just spewed the same divisive, bigoted and typical anti Nigerian ipob rubbish.


The fact that you can not get along with the rest of Nigeria doesn't mean the rest of us are not united

This is the first time anyone is linking with IPOB. Most people here tag me not just IPOB hater but Igbo hater.

You are not as pro Nigerian as I, and you can never be. I don't owe any allegiance to Buhari, Atiku, APC, PDP, etc. I am known as an avid supporter of Buhari on this forum, but I should not be blind from the truth. Numerous supporters of Buhari are saying the same thing ie Amaechi, Dele momodu and even his wife.

deomelo:
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Nigerians are united, the only Ununited people are looters, corrupt elements and ipobs.

False. Nigerians have not been this divided since the civil war.
Middle belt region is angry over his handling of the Fulani herdsmen issue, igbos are angry over his handling of IPOB issue and 97% 5% statement. The south is angry over his fulanization or Northernization of the Federal government especially the security forces.
He has this arrogant "I don't care what anybody thinks" attitude.

Awol1:
If everyone else is wrong, and you are the only one right, there's something wrong somewhere.

How can Kadaria call everyone who saw her bias fools?

Couldn't she be noble?

Couldn't she show diplomacy?

Don't people have the right to disagree again? Should that make them fools?

It's a pity I thought this certain Kadaria was educated.

And to think she has the tag of being trained in America is another mess.

What do you mean by bias?
Are her questions not what is in the minds of many Nigerians who are either supporters of APC or are neutral? Even CNN asks Trump difficult questions and they are not accused of Bias. Fake news, yes, but bias no.
If PDP supporters are attacking journalists for asking difficult questions during presidential interview, what will they do to hostile journalists if he becomes President?

This is about the only time I agree with Bob Dee. Buhari is not the cause of the economic woes Nigeria is experiencing, it is a cumulative of poor economic management over the decades especially, the last administration, and the over reliance on crude as our only source of forex.

My grouse with Buhari is his inability to unite Nigerians. He is blind, deaf and dumb to the cries of other regions of the country, especially the South East. He only trust and favours his own tribesmen.

hucienda:
At first glance, felt she was doing her job though she was just too aggressive as if it were an interrogation and not an interview.

At a point during the economy round of questions, she kept on making herself appear like amateurish where Atiku had to even ask if she were a socialist. She knew that area was Atiku and Obi's forte yet she still wanted to show some braggadocio where she obviously had no depth.

Gave her the benefit of doubt - this tweet, however - just sold out her bias.

She understands the world economy far more than your Atiku and definitely far more than you.
It is you that fail to understand the importance of her questions.
The major problem confronting the capitalist economic model to day is the poor. When you privatise and commercialise everything and leave everything to the proverbial "market forces" the poor feel left behind. And a mass of poor disgruntled people is a threat to peace and even democracy. This is what is responsible for Brexit, Trump, France riots, Greece economic problems. The only countries free of the social tensions between the rich and poor are countries with solid social safety nets like the Scandinavian countries.

What kadira wanted to know from Atiku is how will the extremely poor benefit from his privatisation and commercialisation mantra?

9jaRealist:
They are NOT trespassing.

The law allows access to public utility staff (same with emergency personnel). Furthermore, standard utility contracts would provide for reasonable access to the connected property for purposes related thereto (repairs, meter-reading, disconnection, re-connection, etc.).

The keyword here is reasonable access. Reasonable access does not mean unfettered access.
My property is property and no one is allowed access without my permission, except with a valid court order.
NEPA has the power to disconnect the wire from the pole or even uproot the whole pole, but they do not have the rights to enter personal property without approval.

kabillionaire:
Nothing but the truth!
I once worked with NEPA, PHCN or whatever, if you know what these power companies (DISCOs) do to steal from Nigerians.
Capturing moments like these and uploading it online is their tactics now, and in most case, they cause the fight.
The always insists on disconnecting because of the disconnection fee, that's where the "HELPERS" gets their bread since they're not receiving salaries.

Don't mind the guy supporting corruption maybe because he is benefiting or has benefited.
I have been having running battles with NEPA, PHCN and now Ikeja Distribution for a long time. I hate being cheated and I hate to cheat. Right now, I have two cases with NERC, concerning the conduct of Ikeja distribution officials. One for my office and one for my home. The refuse to appear at the arbitration called by NERC.

9jaRealist:
Nigerians stealing electricity since 1960...

In a country of supposedly almost 200 million citizens (of course we don’t really know how many we really are), there are only about 6 million registered electricity consumers, and even then the military and the government MDAs steadfastly refuse to settle their bills. There are actually entire estates in Nigeria with illegal connections to the public grid. Anyway, it’s perhaps poetic justice for those insiders who rushed to grab the privatized DISCOs based on a misguided notion that it will be like GSM telephony.

Meanwhile, why beat up innocent foot soldiers at the bottom of the corporate pyramid who are merely doing their job rather than the suits in the corporate suites who set policies, send the bills and make enforcement (including disconnection) decisions? This is pretty much the same reason that violent protests are usually confined to the Mainland in Lagos and virtually never in the elite districts of Ikoyi or VI. SMH

Some Nigerians stealing electricity since 1960, not all Nigerians. I have never stolen electricity.

What concerns ordinary Nigerians with MDAs, Nigerians should not be punished for the sins of government officials, we are already paying enough through excessive looting.

If there are entire estate engaging in illegal connection, due process should be followed. In the alternative, the disco sue the estate for theft.

The foot soldiers are nothing but innocent. The foot soldiers are a chain in the extortion and blackmail syndicate called discos. The flout all NERC regulations and just disconnect customers without notice. One time my home was disconnected while at home without any warning or notice. At first I thought it was regular power outage until my neighbour told me NEPA is around.

The sadness of life in Nigeria is that the abnormal has now been accepted as the norm.

Paentera:
Trespass is not an excuse for assault and battery especially when there are no weapons in sight to qualify for self defence.

If someone trespasses your house or compound, the law allows you to remove that person using all necessary means.

franzis:
some boys in my hood tried this nonsense with phcn , na so phcn comot transformer fuse waka for almost 3 weeks we no see light na only sorrounding streets come get light

These things happens because most Nigerians do not know their rights apart from the collapsed justice system.
If you are not owning and they disconnect your power as punishment for offenses you know nothing about, you sue their ass and even receive compensation. That is what is obtained in sane societies.

They tried that shit in my former estate, and some lawyers threatened to sue their ass. Sharp sharp, the connected the fuses.

Paentera:
Where I work is irrelevant at this time. I have stated that a civil offence has occured and from experience, the next step that the DISCO will embark upon is as I explained.

You might want to also learn to separate the incidence from your sentiments and feelings. It will not affect the outcome of those affected in the brawl.

When the case get to court, it depends on the strength of the arguments of the lawyer. The Ikeja Disco officials might have started the fracas. They might be accused of trespass as the have no rights to even enter a private property without authorization. They most likely did not give the owners of the flat notice they are coming into the compound.

hardbody:
Everyone should take the steps I have taken. I pay in advance online. They have since recognised that I don't even wait for bills, so they don't bother with me anymore. Even when the bills come I always have a positive balance on my account, pending when I get the pay as you go meter which by the way they deliberately don't want to share

Either you have a prepaid meter that is actually being read, or you have settled people in the computer room.
My very good friend called me from Surulere yesterday crying that Ikeja Distribution brought a bill of N30,000 for last month and these useless guys have disconnected his light. This is someone living in a mini flat that is just struggling to get bye. He asked me for advice on how to petition NERC because he has no way of paying N30,000.