₦airaland Forum

Paentera:
Assault

Simple. At least one of the family members will end up with a conviction and at least a 3 months jail term. The lady in question fighting the Ikeja Electric staff will be used as a scapegoat for those within that area who might attempt such in the future.

As usual, the neighborhood will send emissaries to the company to BEG but considering that not nipping such acts in the bud with a solid prosecution case, will give many more the effrontery to continue such assault on the staff of the company simply carrying out their duties of disconnection, it is guaranteed that she and any others caught in this heinous act will be prosecuted with the full weight of the law.

Fighting in public is still a civil offence and assault and battery is another. No dey fight DISCO staff, they are only carrying out their duties. Where you might have had a situation where they demanded money from you - record such if possible and forward such to the HEAD OFFICE.

Which duty are they carrying out? Is it their duty to steal from ordinary suffering Nigerians?
You must be a staff of one of those criminal Disco companies.
Give meters, dem no gree. Provide regular power, babu. But at the end of the month they bring outrageous estimated bills. The worst is that a few days after bringing criminal bills, they would be carrying ladder up and down threatening you with disconnection, even though NERC has given them guidelines for disconnecting customers. Notice must be given before disconnecting a customer, but these criminals would come when no one is at home and just disconnect without notice.

If you know the amount of fraud these Discos are perpetuating, you will advocate for them to be given the China treatment.

Yyeske:
This man should just keep quiet instead of multiplying his sins,
First is that he forgot to declare some of his assets which is a crime as a public servant,
Now it is proceeds from forex transactions knowing fully well that as a public servant, you are not supposed to be engaged in any other job or did he forget that part of the law too?
Someone please tell him to keep quiet before he gets himself into more trouble

Waiting for Voltrons, defenders of the corruption universe to save a fellow denizen.

Our chief justice is a multi talented genius. Apart from being the most senior judge in the whole nation, he is also master forex trader, a genius businessman and an exceptional farmer. His only flaw is his memory?

banio:
Adams Oshomole declared that all looters can join APC for their sins to be forgiven.

Adams oshiomole can declare all he wants, he is not the national assembly, he cannot declare amnesty on criminals. The minute oshiomole leaves or APC leaves office, criminals he is shielding would be hunted by the next government. That's the way the cookie crumbles.

LZAA:

They made no practical moves yet the army turned the east to a blood pool during op python dance?
Biafra will come as long as this current structure remains
Other tribes?u mean the SS?
I dont know if u've noticed but igbos have oil in their lands and also have brothers in the SS zone
Cuz i'm sure ndigbo have never asked yorubas or hausas to join them

Any time miscreants block the road and prevent others from carrying out their lawful duties, behoves the security forces to deal with them.

Biafra will never come with miscreants and their sympathisers jumping up and down on the streets and screaming over social media.

Who mentioned oil? So all your Biafra screams is about the oil of the Niger delta?

Brothers you call them, even though not all SS tribes see igbos as brothers, even if the do, brothers finds their own destinies, and do not wait for a so call senior brother to decide their destiny for them.

LZAA:
Last time i checked japan does not have any serious national resource
Their military is not what it used to be yet japan is a first world country with a huge say in world economy
China,dubai,brazil and singapore are also nations that came from nothing to something so pigeonholing ur country to agriculture is naivety at best
About igbos queing behind obi simply cause he's igbo has to be the biggest joke i've heard this year.
Weren't the lagos ibadan media spreading the news of how IGBO govs were rejecting obi?
Again like i have said many times on NL,the percentage of igbos u see in lagos represent just a fraction of igbos in the whole world(a very small fraction at that)
Anyway since u said igbos should not leave then that means that they are citizens and should enjoy every right available to citizens of nigeria
Cuz if we are to go by ur logic ohio and dakota ppl should not move to new york or liverpool folk should not move to london

No one is saying igbos should not leave. Igbos leaving should not depend on other tribes but igbos themselves. The problem is that igbos has not made any practical moves to move besides some unknown miscreats abusing and shouting on radio and social media. Another problem is that these igbos want to move with other Nigerian tribes by force.

princechurchill:
Mr man abeg carry ur useless justification of Boko Haram cause to ur house let them be bombing ur household

I will rather leave with a thief than a terrorist

I doubt you passed English comprehension at o/level.

gabbylight:
This is what I have been advocating for even as an individual, if elected president today, i will grant this people (looters) amnesty, ensure the money is return perhaps used in investment, give them time frame to comply, then close up the loop holes. Very simple.
You cannot be chasing people in the name of fighting corruption, while in your bosom are master looters.

To me as individual, this is the best method.

How will you identify looters? Will they be wearing tags on their forehead?

How will you ensure money is returned without going through the courts?

How will you close loopholes and ensure government officials will comply with the laws closing those loopholes

princechurchill:
Keep justifying the actions of boko Haram as long as they are terrorising north am cool with

Ur mum has no end

Is your brain paining you? Who is justifying actions of Boko Haram? I said they are fighting for a cause, whether justified or not. The subject matter is a cause . I asked which cause are looters fight for to ask for amnesty?

princechurchill:
And Buhari is granting amnesty to boko Haram members

Releasing some of their leaders back and even giving them fund.

Tell serap abi seraphim to shut up

At least Boko Haram (and Niger Delta militants) have a cause they are fighting for (justifiably or otherwise ). What cause are looters fighting for to justify amnesty?

feddis:
Most people will just jump on condemnation instead of trying to understand the whole reasons behind such decisions.
Buhari has made so many bright minds shallow in thoughts in this country.

It is your mind that is shallow to even contemplate such a stupid thing. Have your heard any where in the world or history where amnesty is given to thieves (even before they are convicted )? It is your hypocritical type that would mete out jungle justice to phone thieves but defend government thieves with your life.

This suggestion confirms the suspicion that Atiku is corruption personified.

Lumig:
I pray earnestly that this kind of day should come quickly in Nigeria. A day our Senate will wish they were never born Nigerians

Be careful what you wish for, it could just come true.
You tell me that in a clash between the executive and legislative, supporters of the executive should be allowed by the police, military and paramilitary to enter the national assembly to beat up legislators and go scot free.
It's like supporters of Buhari entering the national assembly and beat up Saraki and Co. Is that what you wish for?

yemi15:
What is this one saying? So Lagos and Ogun that has most of the companies in Nigeria do multiple taxation? Go to school, you won't SMH.

It is obvious you have never set up a company or even registered a business name before. Ask your boss (assuming you have a job) on the number and costs of taxes including licences they are required to have.

JosEast:
The presidential candidate of the Peoples Democratic Party (PDP) on Wednesday punctured the claim by the President Muhammadu Buhari-led federal government that oil price hovered at $100 per barrel in the 16 years of PDP’s rule, saying it was only sold for that price in two years of former President Goodluck Jonathan’s administration.

Fact check!
Oil sold for over $100 for three years and not two years. It was almost even 4 years as oil sold for $99.03 in 2014

https://www.statista.com/statistics/262860/uk-brent-crude-oil-price-changes-since-1976/

royallord1:
One has grown, improved himself to meet the demand of modern day Nigeria and become more prosperus and improved the lots of his immediate community since leaving office.. The other never improved himself, never grew or became prosperous or improved the lots of his immediate community, nor understand what it takes to lead a modern day Nigeria.. He keeps living in the past.. When I was in the military.

How did Abubakar Atiku improve himself since leaving office? Did he improve on the 2 diplomas he said he has? Wikipedia says that he holds two diplomas: one from the school of hygiene and another in Law from ABU institute of administration.
So someone that worked as a custom officer for most of his career and suddenly has money to invest and indeed corner the oil services and logistics sector has improved himself? In that case Buhari should have cornered the oil wells and refinery business to show he was capable of improving himself when he was petroleum minister, head of state or PTF chairman.

If u are asked whom would improve the lots of Nigeria amongst both.. Am sure u will pick the one that improved his personal life as against the one that is redundant and never grew his personal life or his immediate community

A former president or even a former vice president have no need to improve himself materially if not for primitive greed. They are fully provided for by the state.

This is what Dino melaye wrote about Buhari refusing to collect his full allowance;

Here is his message:

“I read online the question a lady asked. The question is how can Buhari who earns over 300million naira yearly claim that he can not afford to pay 27million naira for the APC presidential form. I became interested and decided to investigate. I went to the ministry of Finance where I discovered that it is true that all former Presidents and Head of states actually get 23million naira monthly. But I found out that General Buhari actually wrote the minister of Finance to reject the 23million monthly pay. He said in his letter that he will only accept 10percent or that amount which is 2.3million and that is what he has been taking. This is just to clear the air.”

royallord1:
My guy.. If I should give you response to this ur biased questions u will still not understand and say the truth...
My advice ..clear your head.. Listen to the debate ask ur self this same questions am sure u will find the answer...

I am all ears.
Atikus ideas are no different from Buhari's. No substance whatsoever. I feel like crying when I hear both Atiku and Buhari speak. They have no idea on what it takes to build a prosperous country.
It a pity that these two is what is on offer to Nigerians.

yemi15:
So reducing corporate tax so that companies can provide real jobs is not better than your go back to agriculture policy by lifeless FC? Zombie shut up!

The problem of companies in Nigeria is not corporate taxes, it multiple taxation by all three tiers of government apart from poor infrastructure and all mighty corruption.

royallord1:
Is it that you are deaf to certain facts or you are just being ridiculous...
He spoke on agriculture... Implementing a better funding scheme for the sector

How is this different from the anchor Borrowers programme?

He spoke on security.. Stating he would take into cognisance the words from the soldiers on the battle front, he will deal with any one that seem to be non chalant abt the war.. He won't condone lost of soldiers life, weapons and equipment.

Stating he would take into cognisance the words from the soldiers on the battle front, he will dealing with any soldier who is non chalant equates to security? How will that be effective? How will he know which soldiers are non chalant? What about other security challenges likeherdsmen, kidnapping, cultism, militancy, etc?

He spoke on the economy.. Stating various point on how they would revive the economy.. From infrastructure, to tax cuts, to amnesty for looted funds, to security, to loans for SMSEs..

Amnesty for looted funds, that's a new one. So how does that discourage the next round of looting?
And these are all here has to say on the economy?

On corruption he spoke on involving technology.. He stated clearly that he would fight existing corruption while instituting measure to prevent future occurrence.

How? Which measure does he have in mind? How can he grant amnesty at at the same time prevent future looting?

He also sited turkey who instituted amnesty on loots and received so much refunds back to the country that it transformed turkey into a modern country ...

never knew Turkish economy was built on looted funds. Other countries better start looting funds to develop their economies.

On Education.. He stated that basic education was exclusively a state and local government affair... As such he would be engaging the legislature on reviewing the UBE law.. To add punishments on state and local governments who fail to educate her people... And if possible deduct the misappropriated fund from their allocation and implement the development needed in that area..

The FG does not have powers to withhold funds meant for other tiers of government. That's federalism.

He gave an example of how he visited anambra and saw the poor state of education, which prompted him to work against the candidacy of the then governors return to office.

When, how? Atiku had never been in the same party with any Anambra state government save the few months it was under Ngige. Anambra had always been an APGA state, so how can he world against the candidate of another party?

On rule of law... He spoke on the slow justice system of Nigeria and the poor investigative job.. He stated retraining and working with the legislative to enanct laws that will improve the situation

what laws?

What else should I say to prove to u that u are clearly biased ...

It is you that is bias, Atiku said nothing new or even sensible.

On the answer given by Atiku on sending a bill to national assembly to punish states and local governments that mis manage Education funds, abeg does the federal government have the power to punish states and local governments according to our constitution? I thought states and local governments are independent tiers of governments

SalamRushdie:
I am not satisfied with Atikus answer to solving herder farmer clash!!!! what's the difference between Atiku feeding lot and the satanic ranches of Buhari?

exactly!!
What are feeding lots and how is that different from grazing reserves?

Did I hear right that Atiku actually said that you can develop an economy with proceeds of corruption?

naijapips04:
I see a lot of Buhari supporters making insinuating that the trail of the CJN is for a seemingly criminal case of having thousands of dollars in his account. And some misguided lawyers saying that they've practised for years without Up to N50k in their accounts and all what not.

Well lets not forget that Osibanjo as at 2015 declared $900,000 in his account plus N94m.



The CCT trial has nothing to do with the monies in the account and how the CJN got them. There was nothing criminal about this, if not EFCC and ICPC would have been involved.

All these trial is all about is the failure to declare the assets in 2009. These same accounts were declared in 2016 by the CJN. Going by the rules of the code of conduct in civil service, the declaration in 2016 should suffix that of 2009.

There is nothing wrong in a lawyer having thousands of dollars in his account. Or are lawyers not supposed to be rich and make the most out of their career? Nobody has come forward to say the monies in the CJN account was for bribe or anything. And EFCC has not come out to say the are doubting the sources of the funds in that account.

I hope Nigerians become smart enough to see this charade for what it is.....an act of tyranny.

It's sad to see seemingly sane human beings defending crime (alleged) with so much passion. It is amazing that they cannot correlate these crimes with the sorry state of affairs we find ourselves today. In sane societies, people such as the CJN and others would have since resigned or be forced to resign, but here we have people defending the indefensible.
A judge is not a lawyer.
A lawyer is a private businessman or woman who sells legal services to those who can afford it. Some lawyers charge millions just for consultation.
A judge on the other hand is a public employee, a public servant paid by the state to administer justice. A judge is not expected to engage in business or provide legal services, so how do you compare the earnings of a judge with a lawyer? A judge's salaries and allowances can be determined to the last kobo. Now if a judge is reputed to have billions in his accounts, without any explanation, then something is amiss.

In the UK, and ordinary citizen living beyond his or her means would have some explaining to do to the police, not to talk of a public officer or a judge. Here people are celebrated and some people are prepared to sacrifice their lives to defend such people.

If you insist judges are able to earn billions in Nigeria, then where are his tax receipts, so we can see the businesses that generated the money. If he cannot produce the tax receipts, then he is guilty of tax fraud and evasion. That is how it goes in a sane country.

How can some one who is unable to explain the source of his wealth sit in judgement of a yahoo boy or any one accused of corruption?

lovelygurl:
"What the hell is going on with Global Warming. Please come back fast, we need you!" ~Trump


The president of the United States doesn't know the difference between weather and climate change.

My chest

This man is freely advertising his ignorance. He does not know the difference between climate and weather. If it is Bubu that made such errors, the usual suspects will not let social media rest for the next 6 months.

obixcel:
If that is the Democrats' 2020 plan on why they don't want Border Security then prepare for defeat, cos it will sure back fire on their faces, Remember, Trump won basically because of Immigration which was the core of his message, and he will win again.

Trump did not win because of immigration. Trump won first of all because of Putin's help and also because the Democrats did not turn out, as lots of democrats did not like Hillary. Obamas votes in 2012 would have floored Trump's in 2016.

4.4 million 2012 Obama voters stayed home in 2016 — more than a third of them black -
- https://www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/politics/wp/2018/03/12/4-4-million-2012-obama-voters-stayed-home-in-2016-more-than-a-third-of-them-black/

The synonym of border security is not wall. A wall is not only highly ineffective, it is a huge waste of funds to build and maintain. That is besides it posing an ecological threat to animals.
The Gaza wall, a mere 60km wall does not stop smuggling of rockets and ammunitions into Gaza nor does it stop terrorists from entering Israel, How much more a 3200km wall between The US and Mexico. The wall will not stop smuggling of drugs and narcotics into the US. With drone technology sending drugs over the wall will be a piece of cake.
Most illegal immigrants come into the US through the airports. They come in with visiting visa and refuse to leave.

obixcel:
It's a smart thing to do now, he's simply putting the onus on the Dems, either they put up or shut up, either they're for border security or Not. Besides that he's giving himself more solid reason to declare Emergency (assuming The House fails again). We'll know by then.

There is no onus on the Dems, the Dems will simply maintain their stance, the three weeks will elapse, and Trump either order another shut down or declare Emergency. If he declares emergency, the Dems would go to court and the lower courts will render the emergency illegal, null and void. If trump insists on appealing all the way to the supreme Court, the supreme Court might give him some reprieve, but he will not get close to what he wants, just like the travel ban. It would take close to 8 months to a year to get all the way to the supreme Court and get a ruling, by then the general elections would be down the corner and the damage to his poll numbers would have been complete.

Pachukwudi, is NJC, it's members and the judiciary in general insulated from the law?
This is a statement from the NJC;

The NJC also informed DSS that it was not amenable to “invitations being extended to judicial officers by departments and agencies of government for any reason”.
https://www.thisdaylive.com/index.php/2016/10/11/how-njc-rejected-dss-request-to-probe-judges/?amp

In effect judicial officers are a law unto themselves.

SalamRushdie:
proof of what exactly? he has not been charged with stealing has He? he is being accused of failing to declare his assets something Buhari is also guilty of

Where did you get the story that Buhari did not declare his assets on assuming office?

PaChukwudi44:
FALSE!!! THEY DONT NEED HIS APPROVAL!!!! WHICH CHAIRMAN APROVED TOMOROW'S MEETING BTW

https://www.thecable.ng/exclusive-njc-members-summon-emergency-meeting-over-onnoghen/

◾The council shall hold meetings at such times and place as the chairman may appoint.
◾Notwithstanding the provision of paragraph (1) of this regulation, a meeting of the council shall be convened if five or more members make a request to that effect, in writing to the chairman, specifying the business to be transacted.
◾Every meeting of the council shall be presided by the chairman and in his absence, by a member selected by a simple majority of members present and/or nominations in the call of expression of interest and in the request for nomination.
◾The quorum for a meeting shall not be less than one-third of the total number of the council members as at the date of that meeting.
◾A member shall be entitled to one vote and the simple majority votes shall be the decision of the council.

Please interpret this statement;

Notwithstanding the provision of paragraph (1) of this regulation, a meeting of the council shall be convened if five or more members make a request to that effect, in writing to the chairman, specifying the business to be transacted.

What does the word request mean to you and what happens if the request is rejected?

We are in unusual times, so the chairmanship position is contentious. So who did the five members address tomorrow's sitting letter to, Onnoghen or Tanko?

PaChukwudi44:
This line is stale.There was no way the CJN ccould have stopped the NJC from sitting if up to five members of the over twenty member council insisted on sitting

False! The five members would still need to write the chairman of the NJC for approval before setting a sitting date.

naijapips04:
Here is the Code of conduct bureau act that absolves the CJN of any wrongdoing....for those using the 'forgot' propaganda to place media verdict on the CJN.




CJN made an admission of non-compliance, hence the CCT has no jurisdiction to even try him.

You see why they rushed everything including the yeye suspension?

Then what is the purpose of the CCT, if all an erring officer has to do to avoid being prosecuted is to admit to the violations?
It is like saying, confess your sins and be forgiven.

You are insinuating that the CCT is just a toothless bulldog.

Venerable612:

It is still an inferior court of record. They enjoy exclusive jurisdiction - means - they are the only court that can hear the matter at First Instance.

but this does not mean they are not subject to the higher courts - in respect of Court Jurisdiction. In a sane country - where the legal system functions properly - if a higher court grants a stay of proceedings on a lower court - It Stays!

It’s a ritual - it’s just the same way a commander can ask his subordinates to keep matching against the wail - you don’t question it no matter how absurd.

So any refusal from the CCT to honour orders from the CoA is a slap on our Judicial system and to the Nigerian constitution which gives authority to the hierarchy of courts.

Exactly. But why was justice Onnoghen running to various courts of the same hierarchy to get various injunctions and rulings? He even went to the industrial court to get a judgement.

Now, how can the appeal court grant Onnoghen a judgement without there first being a ruling at the code of conduct Tribunal. I thought appeal court can only appeal a judgement of a lower court. But an appeal was heard even before the case at the CCT commenced, so based on what ruling did the appeal court based it's orders on?

This lawyer has not read supreme Court judgement SC.279/2012 read by Justice Onnoghen himself.

In the judgement of justice Onnoghen in 2012, je said the CCT has exclusive jurisdiction to try code of conduct violations, and the CCT also has powers to mete out punishments to violators.

Any allegation that a public officer has committed a breach of or has not complied with the provisions of this code shall be made to the code of conduct Bureau”. The foregoing provisions are clearly unambiguous and so construed literarily mean that any breaches of any provisions of the said 5th schedule or matters of noncompliance with any provisions of the Code shall, (meaning that it is mandatory i.e. must) be made to the code of Conduct Bureau that has established its Tribunal with the exclusive jurisdiction to deal with any violations of any provisions under the Code, if I may emphasise any violations shall be made to Code of Conduct Bureau. The provisions have made it mandatory to take any matters so covered by the 5th schedule (supra) to the code of conduct Bureau and not to any ordinary regular courts as has been done in this instance. If I may repeat the code of Conduct Tribunal has been established with the exclusive jurisdiction to deal with ail violations contravening any of the provisions of the Code as per paragraph 15(1). This provision has expressly ousted the powers of ordinary regular courts in respect of such violations. The Tribunal to the exclusion of other courts is also empowered to impose any punishments as specified under sub-paragraphs (2) (a), (b) & (c) of paragraph 18 as provided in sub-paragraphs 3 and 4 of paragraph 18 while appeals shall lie as of right from such decisions to the Court of Appeal.
- https://ilaw.com.ng/barrister-ismaeel-ahmed-v-alhaji-nasiru-ahmed-ors/