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PoliticsRe: LIVE FACT CHECK: Verifying Osinbajo, Obi, At 2019 Election Debate by wirinet(m): 8:18am On Dec 15, 2018
lexy2014:
Pls confirm if this statement from Osinbajo is true or false:

"97% of rice consumed by Nigerians is locally produced. Nigeria only imports 3% of d rice it consumes".
Yes the statement is true;
97% of rice consumed in Nigeria is locally produced through coutonu, only 3% is imported through our ports.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by wirinet(m): 6:34am On Dec 13, 2018
obixcel:
NPC, his Crimes aren't Trump's. If that's all Mueller could come up with, sorry.
Are you serious or you are joking? Cohen said he paid the hush money under the instruction of his client (individual 1), and you say "his crimes aren't Trumps"

Besides, are you aware adultery is a crime under New York State laws;
Section 255.17
Adultery
Penal (PEN)
A person is guilty of adultery when he engages in sexual intercourse with another person at a time when he has a living spouse, or the other person has a living spouse.
Adultery is a class B misdemeanor.
https://www.nysenate.gov/legislation/laws/PEN/255.17
So, there are numerous crimes here;
There is campaign violations - you can't use campaign money to pay off prostitutes

There is bribery, you can't pay off someone not to talk about your crimes

There is the crime of hiding vital information from the American voters - voters need to know their presidential candidate loves and patronises prostitutes, especially the evangelical Christians.

Then there is adultery.
PoliticsRe: 3 World Leaders Who Had Body Doubles. by wirinet(m): 6:26pm On Dec 11, 2018
Lame attempt at justifying Kanu's stupidity. All the examples given were either in times of war or in absolute and repressive dictatorship. Brutal dictatorship regimes requires decoys to fool intending assassins because of extreme unpopularity of the dictator. The body doubles are seldom allowed to get in very close proximity with the public or even public officials. There is no way a body double will be allowed to give press interviews, preside over government meetings, sign official documents and run the government. It's not possible. No two people can look and behave exactly the same. A body double would be exposed instantly in a close up video. The body double the Saudis used to try and deceive the turks into thinking Jamal Kashoggi left the embassy was immediately decoded.
Even the pictures posted of Stalin and his body double is immediately unravelled, as there are stark differences in the facial features of the two pictures.
The Stalin double has a slight double chin, the real Stalin doesn't. The eyes, eye brows, nose, mouth and chin are all slightly different.
FamilyRe: 62-year-old Nigerian Woman Delivers Triplet After 33 Years Of Marriage (photos) by wirinet(m): 8:12am On Dec 11, 2018
stanliwise:
Bro don't be hasty. God does not crave for glory. We don't know how the three kids came about with a woman at 62. Most of this cases are IVF. And if IVF there is no need to start shouting miracle. But if not then all glory be to God.
It's most probably IVF. IVF usually produces multiple babies because numerous eggs are fertilised and implanted to ensure survival of a few.
FamilyRe: 62-year-old Nigerian Woman Delivers Triplet After 33 Years Of Marriage (photos) by wirinet(m):
The details of the story is scanty and incomplete, and so leaves lots of room for doubts.

Nigerians so desperately want miracles and so people go to extraordinary lengths to fake miracles and go to equally extraordinary lengths to believe them. We had a similar case about 20 years ago where frank olize of NTA featured a 60's woman that gave bath to a miracle baby. On further investigation, it was discovered that the woman stole the baby. The case was in court for years until the baby was given over to its rightful mother.

We were not told how this 62 year old became pregnant and was able to give birth. Was it through natural sex or through IVF? Was it her eggs or it was donor eggs? Why was she barren for all of her productive years?
If such happened in more advanced countries, the woman would be tested and studied for medical and scientific purposes, to advance scientific knowledge, but here we just shout miracle and forget everything.
PoliticsRe: If You Think IPOB Should Not Boycott 2019 Election, Engage Me In A Debate. by wirinet(m): 11:50am On Dec 10, 2018
victorvezx:
A crisis had to be triggered before the UN will bother coming in. Thousands of lives had to be lost for the UN to have justification. Yugoslavia, Eritrea and South Sudan are recent examples.
What about Myanmar, Syria, Libya, Palestine and kurdistan? The lives lost so far in these places is not enough for the UN to intervene?
PoliticsRe: If You Think IPOB Should Not Boycott 2019 Election, Engage Me In A Debate. by wirinet(m): 7:57am On Dec 10, 2018
kanubiafra:
pls try google these topics and see things for yourself
'civil disobedience'
'election boycott'
'consent of the governed' etc
yes there has been many cases where civil disobedience did a good job in many countries it depends on what was the purpose of the boycott in the first place. people do boycott for many different reasons and most always work. what is a boycott? it simply mean abstain from vote. since you got your first voters card did you attend all election ? that was a boycott you did. and to answer you it worked in rhodesia. when all major opp parties used it for separation of the country. pls check google
The bolded said all major political parties. Now tell me the major party or even minor one that wants to boycott elections.
PoliticsRe: If You Think IPOB Should Not Boycott 2019 Election, Engage Me In A Debate. by wirinet(m): 7:33am On Dec 10, 2018
banom:
Point of correction oga, kanu has not and is not putting the life of any south easterner in danger. It's your barbaric federal government that is killing innocent citizens for demanding for a referendum. And here you are trying to change the narrative by putting the blame on Kanu who is only demanding for the freedom of his people. You see why I earlier said the reasoning of an average Nigerian works anti-clock wise. Tufiakwa unu.
Kanu does not have the authority to demand for a referendum, he has no authority whatsoever. At best he is an advocate giving his and his group's personal opinion. The people with the authority to demand for a referendum are elected officials (official representatives) of the igbo people, especially state's and federal legislators.
You are vacillating in your argument, you first said the Nigerian government is barbaric and uncivilised, and you now expect such barbaric and uncivilised governments to act civilised when challenged by Kanu.
PoliticsRe: If You Think IPOB Should Not Boycott 2019 Election, Engage Me In A Debate. by wirinet(m): 7:05am On Dec 10, 2018
banom:
Am supposed you understand what a referendum is?
Please explain what a referendum is and how it involves all of the South south minus edo.
PoliticsRe: If You Think IPOB Should Not Boycott 2019 Election, Engage Me In A Debate. by wirinet(m):
Donelli:
Let's look at the bolded in your comment and then see how an excerpt from the comment below answers your question.


I agree that this is a method, but my questions..

1.On what basis will politicians from other regions (especially the north) be lobbied to support Biafra knowing fully well that they have some parasitic interests to defend?
On the Basis of popular support from their people on the biafra issue and on issues of common purpose. If all the igbo politicians and igbo business elites and masses advocate for Biafra, Northern politicians would be forced to listen.

Ever other region has some parasitic interests in Nigeria outside the Niger Delta or south south, so it's the south south that holds the ace for obvious reasons.
The igbos need the support of the South South to get any traction on their Biafra agitations, but instead of courting the south south, the igbos are arrogantly trying to force their Biafra agitations on the south south.
If the igbos can get the south south to agitate for Biafra, the North would be forced to listen.

2. Those countries you mentioned, do they practise our style of politics where lobbying has ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with ideology and presenting a superior argument but strictly a matter of money changing hands.
Politics is politics anywhere in the world. You negotiate based on your advantages and weaknesses. You give and take. It is not easy, but it is more effective than the alternative - war.
Niger Delta was able to agitate for an increase in derivativation, from 0% in 1999 to 13% presently, the goal is between 25 - 30%.

The Yorubas were able to negotiate with the north for the presidency after their tribesman was denied same in 1993.
The Ogonis are still agitating for clean up of their environment and reparations for decades, they have even won numerous court judgements against shell both locally and internationally. The FG has even claimed to have started the clean up after an elaborate launching. Even though the FG and Shell are still playing games, eventually, they would be forced to accede to the agitations of the Ogonis.
3. Going by your suggestion, do you think referendum will happen in another 30 years?
It might take 300 years. Catanonia has been fighting for a referendum for centuries. Scotland fought for independence for centuries and it took centuries before they were granted referendum, even though referendum was inserted into their constitution.

The problem of African is wanting everything instanta, separation is a slow, arduous and painful process, even under normal circumstances (look at Brexit ), it is infinitely harder under crisis conditions.

In my opinion, this talk about following a political process is a ready trap that the Nigerian government will always try to use to defeat the Biafran ideology. Good thing Nnamdi Kanu and IPOB has not fallen for it. As for whether this our method will be fruitful, make we dey watch first kwanu.

Ndewo!
You have not provided your opinion the alternative to the political process. Do you advocate for Kanu and his group to continue to disturb the peace of the South East? Do you advocate for Kanu and his group to put the lives of ordinary south east citizens who are not members of IPOB at risk?
Do you advocate Kanu insulting and threatening ordinary Fulani citizens and calling them all sorts of names, thereby putting the lives and businesses of ordinary igbo people in the north at risk?
PoliticsRe: If You Think IPOB Should Not Boycott 2019 Election, Engage Me In A Debate. by wirinet(m): 6:04am On Dec 10, 2018
banom:
I had wanted to come hard on you to debate the practicality of these points and suggestions you made above but I realised there is no more need doing so as you have already scored an own goal above when you acknowledged where your idea will work is in a civilised society. That is the problem here : Nigeria is not only an uncivilised nation but a barbaric backward thinking one. With people whose reasoning is on per ( or less) basis with animals, and functions anti-clock wise. A place you will be kind if you call her animal kingdom. A joke of a nation.

Such civilised manner of agitation will not work with them. The only type that works is the type IPOB is using now and you can see it's yielding results already.
If as you said, Nigeria is an uncivilised nation and a barbaric backward thinking one, that political solution cannot work, how will IPOB 's method, which involves protests, social media campaigns, antagonising the FG and other major tribes and election boycott work?

All agitations are eventually settled through politics. Even after a war, politics still take over.
PoliticsRe: If You Think IPOB Should Not Boycott 2019 Election, Engage Me In A Debate. by wirinet(m): 5:55am On Dec 10, 2018
banom:
Are you saying you are not imagining the out come of the fact that an entire section of a country wilfully refuses to participate in an election?
Which entire section of the country refuses to participate in an election? Are you saying politicians from any section of Nigeria have indicated that they would not participate in the forthcoming elections? Are you insinuating that a section of the country would not field governorship, legislative, local government or even presidential candidates? Are you saying no one voter would vote for his or her preferred candidates in any section of Nigeria?
If one individual, family, group or association from any section of Nigeria threaten not to vote, how does that translate to entire section of the country?
PoliticsRe: If You Think IPOB Should Not Boycott 2019 Election, Engage Me In A Debate. by wirinet(m): 9:47pm On Dec 09, 2018
melodyogonna:
what about Igbos in south south?
Then you should have specified "igbos in the south south" instead of saying all of the South south minus edo.
PoliticsRe: If You Think IPOB Should Not Boycott 2019 Election, Engage Me In A Debate. by wirinet(m): 9:45pm On Dec 09, 2018
melodyogonna:
but they later deviated to politics just as you are advising Nnamdi Kanu to, don't worry, everything IPOB is doing is based on a roadmap, and we are more organized than you think.

Nnamdi Kanu is not the person that makes all the decisions.
What do you mean by "deviated to politics"? Politics is soliciting for power to advance an agenda or manifesto, what agenda did Ojukwu advance in 1983? So you expect igbo to vote for Ojukwu simply because he led the biafran war?
The organization of IPOB is yet to be seen. The only strategy I see so far is insulting Yoruba, Fulani, Buhari and Nigeria, and issuing threats up and down. The main strategy I see is provoking the FG to kill ordinary citizens on the streets and then using that to elicit sympathy from foreign countries particularly the US and Israel, hoping they would come to your aid militarily or at least diplomatically.

If Kanu is not the one making all the decision, then who else can question kanu in IPOB? I thought his title is supreme leader . Don't you know what that means?
Does IPOB have a constitution that spells out its leadership structure?
PoliticsRe: If You Think IPOB Should Not Boycott 2019 Election, Engage Me In A Debate. by wirinet(m): 9:30pm On Dec 09, 2018
banom:
We are asking for a referendum to be conducted in all south east states and all south south states minus Edo state. And of course if during the referendum majority votes in favour of staying in Nigeria we will stay put in Nigeria and that will permanently bury the issue of BIAFRA.
The bolded statement is seen as an insult to the people of the South south states. Who are the we that is asking for the referendum to be conducted in all south south states? I hope it is not one igbo man sitting in enugu, aba or umuahia. No south south man would tolerate an igbo man demanding for a referendum from him or his tribe.
PoliticsRe: If You Think IPOB Should Not Boycott 2019 Election, Engage Me In A Debate. by wirinet(m): 9:22pm On Dec 09, 2018
melodyogonna:
Oh, it just sounded like you did a whole ton of extra research about it and am someone that always want to learn.

even without research it is staring at us right in the face, Ojukwu tried it, uwazuruike also tried it, they succumbed to the pressure of the false idea about politics being the only way to achieve Biafra, anyone who thinks this in this country is blind.

thank God Nnamdi Kanu has learnt from history ... always, and he has found to never have anything to do with Nigerian politics.
As I noted neither Ojukwu nor Uwazurike made the restoration of biafra a campaign agenda. Uwazuruike just like Kanu used media campaign and protests as a tool for achieving biafra and not a political manifesto.
PoliticsRe: If You Think IPOB Should Not Boycott 2019 Election, Engage Me In A Debate. by wirinet(m): 9:18pm On Dec 09, 2018
Donelli:
See banom's post I quoted before this comment you made. It will give you an idea of how this kind of episode played out in the past with Ojukwu which many are suggesting we follow same path again.
Wrong analogy. Ojukwu did not campaign with Biafra as a campaign agenda, he campaigned under NPN for one Nigeria. Ojukwu 's biafra campaign stopped with the civil war.
Kanu on the other hand is agitating for secession, so if the secession agenda is popular among the south east, why won't he or his party win elections?
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by wirinet(m): 5:02pm On Dec 09, 2018
obixcel:
I'm sorry to say y'all will be disappointed at last when dis is over and President Trump is exonerated. The Special Counsel was suppose to be about collusion, 2 yrs now and no evidence whatsoever even though collusion itself isn't a crime. Hillary Clinton paid for a fake dossier prepared by Russians - dat is collusion but still not a federal crime by any statue. All the phony anonymous sources churning out made up stories because they are trying so hard to "tie the nuts" or "link the dots" together will Fail as usual.

"He didn't say that. And if he did, he didn't mean that. And if he did, you didn't understand it. And if you did, it's not a big deal, anyway. And if it is, others have said worse."
- Typical Trump Supporter
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by wirinet(m): 4:54pm On Dec 09, 2018
armyofone:
Must be a tough time for Cohen. Who is individual 1 ?
That is the code Mueller gave President Donald Trump in the Cohen indictments.
Individual 1’: Trump emerges as a central subject of Mueller probe

In two major developments this week, President Trump has been labeled in the parlance of criminal investigations as a major subject of interest, complete with an opaque legal code name: “Individual 1.” - https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/individual-1-trump-emerges-as-a-central-subject-of-mueller-probe/2018/11/29/e3968994-f3f7-11e8-80d0-f7e1948d55f4_story.html?utm_term=.ad8f416829f2
Donald Trump's new nickname is "individual 1"
PoliticsRe: If You Think IPOB Should Not Boycott 2019 Election, Engage Me In A Debate. by wirinet(m): 4:11pm On Dec 09, 2018
artofseduction:
BUHARI contested 3times and failed.

He believed that he was rigged out.

Did it make him to stop contesting?

No.

He realized that he needed to join alliance which he did and won.

In as much as I hate him so much

Try nd borrow that mentality.

Better doing something than doing nothing.
Educate your mind.
Thank you. What about Abraham Lincoln that lost elections 12 times.
I hate defeatism, looking for excuses why you cannot succeed.
If ANC was like IPOB, I am sure south Africa will still be under apartheid.
PoliticsRe: If You Think IPOB Should Not Boycott 2019 Election, Engage Me In A Debate. by wirinet(m):
banom:
Welcome dear and thanks for this reasonable question. Boycotting the Nigerian election Is a civil disobedience and one of the many pressure and negotiation tools IPOB intends to use to press home for a date for referendum from the Nigerian government.
Boycotting elections has never been a form of civil disobedience, I do not understand how boycotting an election by one party out of numerous other parties would pressure a government to negotiate. The most effective tool in a democracy to pressure a government negotiate is votes. It is only votes that can remove a government from power or to negotiate group interests apart from guns.

Under Apartheid, blacks were fighting and getting killed for the right to vote, but here are group of people that believes they are being suppressed are conceding their right to vote

IPOB as you know is Indeginous people of Biafra: an umbrella movement that is agitating and championing for the emancipation of BIAFRA from Nigeria in a peaceful and civilised manner.
The whole statement is a misnomer. There was never an independent country called Biafra before you even start talking of Indeginous peoples that called themselves Biafra. Biafra was simply a name that replaced eastern Nigeria, during the 3 year civil war. After the civil war the region reverted back to eastern Nigeria, (although broken down into smaller units or states).
Before the creation and amalgamation of Northern and southern Nigeria, there was never any political entity called Biafra. Before independence, Biafra did not feature at all in pre independence negotiations.
Today you can simply not replace former Eastern Nigeria with BIAFRA. The dynamics that created eastern Nigeria is different from the dynamics that will create Biafra.

For BIAFRA to successfully secceed from Nigeria in a peaceful globaly acceptable way without war, a referendum must be conducted in this BIAFRAN area, and for this to happen, Nigeria must agree to it. But to seat down and ask Nigeria for this referendum she will not agree, and that is a waste of time. And to come out on the Nigerian street to protest for it is suicidal as Nigeria government has a penchant to kill unarmed protesters.
So one of the most effective ,peaceful and harmless ways to press home for it is to result or threaten to result into civil disobedience which one of them is election boycott.
As I said there is no Biafra. Biafra as presently agitated for by IPOB is a politically meaningless and geographically boundless term. IPOB sought to impose referendum on people who never asked for it, from Idoma people of Benue to Urhobo people of delta.

Nigeria does not have provision for referendum in its constitution and no international body or country can force Nigeria to conduct one. Even if it signed international agreement that demands referendum, it must domesticate the agreement through the national assembly, and passed into law, before a referendum can be held.

Observe that IPOB never said its members will not be participating in the forth coming general election, rather they said" give us a date for referendum or we will not participate in the election. They are too different things here. To simply ask citizens who are still part of a constituted entity not to participate In her election Is undemocratic and uncivilised but to threaten to boycott the election except the Nigerian government gives them a listening ear on their demand for referendum is civilised and democratic.
The IPOB group itself is meaningless. IPOB arrogantly arrogate itself to be the voice and opinion of ALL igbos and even ALL south south peoples. This is contrary to reality. I have not seen any politician, professional or business leaders that claims membership of IPOB. Most IPOB members I know are Traders, Okada riders, low and medium skilled workers and jobless youths.

Now answer these questions ;

What is the membership strength of IPOB? How many registered members do IPOB have? What is the organisation structure of IPOB? Where is the constitution of IPOB to know it's structure, aims and objectives? Is IPOB registered anywhere?
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by wirinet(m): 8:37am On Dec 08, 2018
Anduku:
Stale, don't you have anything else to say? We have already heard this one about 1 billion times already. You need to borrow a leaf from the smart and innovative President Donald John Trump, the greatest president of the US in your lifetime!!!

God Bless President Donald John Trump!!!
Here is how people describe Trump including some of his closest associates;

McMaster : called him a dope.

Mattis : called him a 5th grader.

Mnuchin : called him an idiot.

Priebus : called him an idiot.

John Kelly : called him a fucking idiot.

Tillerson : called him a fucking slowpoke.

Cohn : called him dumb as shit.

McGahn : called him a fucking idiot.

McRaven : called him the biggest threat to our democracy.

Bannon : called him a fucking slowpoke.

John Dowd : called him a fucking liar.

Rupert Murdoch : called him a fucking idiot.

William T. Kelley : (Professor at Penn) called him the dumbest goddamn student he ever had.

Tony Schwartz : (the ghostwriter of “The Art of the Deal,”) called him a man with a stunning level of superficial knowledge and plain ignorance.

and the cherry on top:

Mueller : called him individual 1.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by wirinet(m): 7:48pm On Dec 05, 2018
obixcel:
Lol...you're just spewing trash... [b] china has already agreed to Import U.S agric. product like Soy beans. [/b]The negotiations had already begun and that has already been dealt with. Besides The U.S is China's biggest trade partners. They really need the US to stay put economically and Trump knew dis from the inception and that was why he slammed dem with tarrifs knowing that they'll crawl back to the table. It was China that was hit hard... you just spitting trash grin grin grin
You people have started your lies again, where and when did China agree to import US agric like soy beans? Where is the agreement? Just like the agreement Kim jung un signed with Trump to de-nuclearize the Korean peninsula, it's in the imagination of Trump. O! I forgot, Trump has built a wall between Mexico and US, and Mexico paid for it.

Yes China is the US biggest trading partner, but also US is china's biggest trading partner. A trade war will negatively affect both countries. The only difference is China can absorb more economic instability than the US.
Where did you see China crawl back to the table? China is diverting it's trade to Europe, Russia and other third world countries.

The Argentina trade talks was only photo opportunity for Trump, it achieved nothing. Let's wait for the 90 days Trump called for a ceasefire and see what happens.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by wirinet(m):
Alectrona11:
A recession would have to follow with or without Trump. It's the natural order of things. One can only argue how much Trump has contributed to its pace and intensity. The bigger problem is that Trump decided to lower taxes (mainly for the rich) when the economy was booming instead of saving for rainy days (though he promised to reduce the debt) in order to create more jobs when unemployment was at a record high (illogical). It was popular with many but highly irresponsible. You give tax breaks in times of recession and you can additionally invest in infrastructure to boost growth in a stalling economy. You save when the economy is booming and revenues are high. In the next major recession the US will have to run up more debt to save the economy.
I am happy some people see beyond all the noise and are able to think clearly.
You forgot to add the added effect of an unnecessary trade war with China and the rest of the world. When you increase tarrifs on foreign steel and aluminium, who will pay for it? It's the Americans of course as it increases production costs, since most US companies will have to import these items.
When you increase tarrifs on industrial and consumer goods from China it only increases the costs to an average US consumer. China is essential to the supply chain of goods manufactured in the US.
Everybody agrees that China engages in unfair trade practices, but you do not bring the whole house down to fix faulty roof. He should have gotten the cooperation of other countries or trading blocks to get China to change.

Let me add that China is hitting the US where it bites hardest. They are hitting back with agricultural products. They simply stopped buying soy beans and other agricultural products from the US. This has hit US farmers badly, as agricultural products rot in a short time. China can source the agricultural products elsewhere. If we had leaders that have a grain of sense, they should have invested heavily and quickly in agricultural products like soy beans. In less than one year we should be supplying China with billions of not millions of dollars of soy beans. Wise countries like Brazil has started supplying China with millions of dollars worth of soy beans.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by wirinet(m): 7:07am On Dec 05, 2018
obixcel:
Stop whipping yourself into frenzy, or do you really have a cartoon brain, eh? Just relax! sit and watch as it unfolds. One thing is for sure, America now has a President who knows and recognizes the worth and value of Money, labour, and sweat. Not the one who wastes them chasing shadows.
Trump and his supporters is just building an ice castle, winter is coming to an end soon and all the glittering structure will start to melt.

The US economy is already showing signs of heading into a major recession.
https://www.google.com.ng/url?sa=i&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwjY6oCGgYjfAhWB4YUKHa7ADaMQzPwBegQIARAC&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.forbes.com%2Fsites%2Fnextavenue%2F2018%2F08%2F03%2Fis-the-next-recession-on-its-way%2F&psig=AOvVaw1GZyufVyUUONxveYBCg22Q&ust=1544075884345911

I really pity the administration that will come after Trump.
Foreign AffairsRe: The Untold Story Of Donald Trump And The Russian Mafia by wirinet(op):
mysticwarrior:
A US president depending on Russian mafia, that is to tell you the Russians are more powerful than the Americans.
It a more effective war strategy. Remember Putin was the head of KGB for a long time. The strategy involves sponsoring prominent US citizens, especially those with shady business dealings, to political office and then using intelligence agencies to prosecute cyber wars (hacking emails of political leaders and spreading misinformation ) and finally helping their collaborators get elected into office
Putins goals are to break up NATO, break up Europe, break up both military and economic alliances of the US and have freedom to control it's neighbours without US backlash, and finally cause a huge political division and crisis within the US. Putin has achieved all these goals without firing a single bullet and at a cost less that a few cruise missiles.

We are waiting for Trump's tax returns to see how he was able to overcome four bankruptcies and became a billionaire, all within 20 years.
PoliticsRe: Tolu Ogunlesi Reacts As Bishop Oyedepo Speaks On ‘Dead’ Buhari by wirinet(m): 8:25am On Dec 04, 2018
baba4dgirls:
Well, if you or your Imam are as intelligent as he is, then we would have less terrorists to deal with.

You muslims should focus on the terrorists you keep churning out anddrawing the country backward and leave the church out of your misery.

You BMC lots are so annoying. You are down talking a man because he asked the presidency to respond to an article?

The pastor is a Nigerian with the right to ask for response from a government. Trump wouldnt wait a day before giving a well detailed response to such issues.

The way you Muslims like to downtalk Christans but can take half of it, is annoying.

If this happened to Goodluck or any Christan, ai know you lots will even be protesting. If you have proof that he siphoned money why don't you bring it out. 30 naira brats everywhere.
Why is Trump refusing to present his tax returns (certificate) after over 2 years of demands from Americans?
CelebritiesRe: Rania Youssef To Face Trial For Wearing Revealing Dress. Photos by wirinet(m): 7:28am On Dec 04, 2018
Demmzy15:
Are you sensible at all? Saudi can't allow it because it's contradictory to its system of government and way of life. France on the other hand claims to be a democracy yet, it trumps on the rights of others and this is contradictory to democracy which is known to be accompanied by liberalism and secularism. France is democratically intolerant, you need to study about different systems of government and cultures of people all around the world. Stop displaying ignorance!
You are very convoluted. What has dress code has to do with system of government? All systems of governments are run by laws, in an autocratic system like Saudi Arabia, the laws are made by one man or very few individuals, but in a democracy laws are made by a national assembly. I wonder where you get the idea that democracy equates to liberalism and secularism, the US has been a democracy for over 300 years, for over 85% of that period the country was neither liberal nor secular. South Africa was a democracy for close to a hundred years, for most of that time it was anything but liberal. Even Nazi Germany was a democracy.
On the other hand Dubai in UAE does not impose burkas or hijabs on women, women are seen dressing like any other European capital.
Turkey is also another Islamic country that does not impose strict dress codes on women.

Indonesia and Pakistan are democracies but have blasphemy laws.

You are arguing blindly to justify your contradictory hypocritical standing of supporting imposing dress code in one country and condemning the imposition of dress code (you do not like) in another country.
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by wirinet(m): 11:41pm On Dec 03, 2018
obixcel:
Relax! Sit, watch and weep
No problem. God should give us the grace to see the end of 2020. The whole Trump myth would unravel.

In 2000 the simpsons predicted the trump presidency and also predicted trump leaving the US broke.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXcYMvzZ7jk

This prophesy seems to becoming fulfilled as trump has expanded the US budget deficit and at the same time reduced corporate tax while fighting a trade war with China.
https://www.google.com.ng/url?sa=i&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwjoodH53ITfAhXGyIUKHfjjDbIQzPwBegQIARAC&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nytimes.com%2F2018%2F07%2F25%2Fbusiness%2Ftrump-corporate-tax-cut-deficit.html&psig=AOvVaw2AnDPyEwG_-jySIIDYqVSJ&ust=1543963115508196
Foreign AffairsRe: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by wirinet(m):
itchie:
The man is a genius at negotiating better deals, such a pity that the media and liberals feel that it is their duty to oppose Trump whether what he is doing is good for the US or not just like our ignorant friend lucasbaboon was already opposing the UMSCA even when he had no clue what was in it cheesy
Which better deal has trump ever negotiated? Is it North Korea, is it with China or even NAFTA? Trump always put the US in a worse position after his so called negotiations. North Korea is in a stronger position after the Singapore summit with all its nuclear arsenals intact, US is in a far worse position before the trade war (although the trade war is hurting China also ), and take it from me China will never back down.
PoliticsRe: White People React As Buhari Says He Is Not Cloned In Poland (photos by wirinet(m): 11:03pm On Dec 03, 2018
Buhari should never answer stupid questions by IPOB and it's supporters, because whatever he says is irrelevant, they will always twist it to suit their narrative.

Buhari said he is not cloned, IPOB will claim that is the type of answer a clone will say

If Buhari said yes he is a clone, IPOB will say Jubril has finally confessed to the truth in front of the whole world.
Buhari should simply have ignored them.

The same advice I gave with the certificate issue, no matter what buhari says or present IPOB will always scream "Buhari does not possess WAEC certificate.

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