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Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by wirinet(m): 6:17pm On Apr 14, 2023
basilico:
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Cause of death undetermined from drugs which he quickly swallowed on seeing cops, He had them all fentanyl,bhang , methamphetamine etc Or the corona virus or the lnee on the neck that Chauvin a police veteran had used before
Don't forget the Lynch mob baying for blood

My verdict. Do good. Don't let criminal GF be your hero
Your verdict. What qualifications other than being a Trump's cult Member qualifies to to have a verdict?

I don't understand how you are attempting to open a case that had already been decided. A case that numerous expert withness testified, a case that Derrick Chauvin and his accomplices were allowed to defend themselves and a case that was decided unanimously by a jury of 12. What are you then arguing about again.

You bring in lies and conjectures as if we did not follow the case live on TV. The records are still on line both in video and text format, so I don't understand why you continue to lie in order to defend a white man and demonise a black man.

Cause of death was not undetermined from drugs, it was from asphyxiation as a result of Chauvin's knee to his neck.

There is no evidence that fentanyl, methamphetamine or any other drug killed him.
Again below is the testimony of an expert withness confirming he died as a result of knee on the neck

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=COKt97dcZXE

Here is another expert withness that confirm that the amount of methamphetamine in his blood was therapeutic levels and not fatal levels


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zx113F_jyKU


That covid antibodies were found in his blood did not necessarily mean he had an active covid infection. It could be antibodies from a previous infection. Covid antibodies remain in the body for up to 3 months after an infection.
Sports › Re: I Love My People But Nigeria Is Very Corrupt - Israel Adesanya by wirinet(m): 5:49pm On Apr 14, 2023
TheMaterialist:
He is telling the truth.

Just 2 questions to anyone who would like to answer:

1. What is the root cause of corruption in Nigeria?


2. How can we free Nigeria of Corruption?
Our culture which forbids questioning the aged or those in power and Pentecostal Christianity which promotes materialism, selfishness and public display of unaccountable wealth.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by wirinet(m): 5:37pm On Apr 14, 2023
benalvino3:
this one might help you. Wirinet ran away from this.
Sure I ran away from arguing senselessly on a case that had gone through the judicial process and all officers involved had been punished appropriately.

I ran away from senseless comparisms that has no relations or similarities with this case. If Derrick Chauvin's Lawyers have new evidence or strongly believes there was a mistrial, nothing prevents them from launching an appeal.
A more practical thing to do since you are so obsessed to defend Derrick Chauvin was to contact Chauvin's Lawyers and offer to join the legal team while presenting your new evidence. It makes no sense for you to be crying over Chauvin's guilty verdict when Chauvin and his lawyers have resigned to their fate.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by wirinet(m): 1:45pm On Apr 14, 2023
basilico:
GF tested positive for COVID-19.
Full autopsy report. I'll only focus on his neck and drugs in his black veins

Read in full here.

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/6936176-Autopsy-2020-3700-Floyd


Toxicology (see attached report for full details ; testing

performed on antemortem blood specimens collected 5/25/20 at
9:00 p.m. at HHC and on postmortem urine)
Blood drug and novel psychoactive substances screens:
1 . 11ng mL
2 . Norfentanyl 5.6 ng/mL
3 . 4 - ANPP 0.65 ng/mL
4 . Methamphetamine19 ng/mL
5 . 11- Hydroxy Delta- 9 THC 1.2 ng mL;
Delta- 9 Carboxy THC 42 ng/ mL; Delta- 9 THC 2.9 ng/ mL
6 . positive
7 . Caffeine.


NECK : Layer by layer dissection of the anterior strap muscles of

the neck discloses no areas of contusion or hemorrhage within
the musculature . The thyroid cartilage and hyoid bone are
intact . The larynx is lined by intact mucosa. The thyroid is
symmetric and red-brown, without cystic or nodular change.
The
tongue is free of bite marks, hemorrhage, or other injuries.
The cervical spinal column is palpably stable and free of
hemorrhage
The same medical report by Dr. Andrew Baker that reached a conclusion that the neck restriction was the ultimate cause of George Floyd's death.

For the umpteenth time, this is the conclusion of Dr. Andrew Baker whose medical report you linked;

On Friday, Hennepin County chief medical examiner Andrew Baker, who performed the county autopsy, took the stand. In documents last year, Baker described the “fatal level of fentanyl” in Floyd’s system and told federal investigators that if the victim was “found dead at home alone and no other apparent causes, this could be an acceptable overdose.” Baker also cautioned, “I am not saying this killed him.”

You are now reaching a different conclusion from the medical professional that wrote the report itself.

In case you can assimilate words and texts, this is the same Dr. Andrew Baker when he was disposed in the trial of Derrick Chauvin.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UM0m31mJ_SM

Abi Dr. Andrew Baker was lying too like you accuse police bosses?
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by wirinet(m): 12:46pm On Apr 14, 2023
benalvino3:
What is their policy with patient with excited delirium?
Kneel on his neck for 9 minutes until he dies, even when he pleads in his delirious state for you to remove your knee of his neck.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by wirinet(m):
basilico:
I think for me it does. If you are predisposed to think Chauvin employed usage of the 9 minute killing method, nothing you see can change your mind.
If you are predisposed to think that police trained Derrick Chauvin to kneel on the neck of an already subdued man for 9 minutes until he stopped breathing, then nothing you see can change your mind.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by wirinet(m): 10:08am On Apr 14, 2023
benalvino3:
Because people don't lie. They said it is not allowed so it must be true?
Are you accusing a police chief of committing perjury in court? Why did Chauvin's Lawyers not accuse the senior police officer of lying. As I said you should have volunteered to be Derrick Chauvin's defense lawyer. You seem to feel you are more competent than his lawyers.
MPD training materials show knee-to-neck restraint similar to the one used on Floyd
Former officer Thomas Lane filed the materials as part of a motion to dismiss his charges.

Here is a video of MPD giving knee to neck training. Court documents on lanes case proves that they are training officers to use knee to neck restraint.

Watch:
https://www.kare11.com/article/news/local/george-floyd/minneapolis-police-training-materials-show-knee-to-neck-restraint-similar-to-used-on-george-floyd/89-9f002e3f-972a-4410-86cb-50a1237fc496
You just past links by reading headlines without reading the body or the context of the articles.

These are excerpts from the link you posted;
The training materials specify: "the maximal restraint technique shall only be used in situations where handcuffed subjects are combative and still pose a threat to themselves, officers or others, or could cause significant damage property if not properly restrained."

The slide that includes the photo states that officers should "Place the subject in the recovery position to alleviate positional asphyxia."


MPD Chief Medaria Arradondo has said in interviews and press conferences following the death of George Floyd that officers are not trained to place their knee on a suspect's neck like Chauvin did to Floyd.


How you think this article support your notion that Derrick Chauvin acted according to police training beats me.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by wirinet(m): 8:36am On Apr 14, 2023
basilico:
https://www.theepochtimes.com/minneapolis-to-pay-8-9-million-over-chauvins-actions-before-floyd_5192940.html?welcomeuser=1


Derek Chauvin killed two other people before George Floyd.
My understanding is that this method of killing by Chauvin is part of police restraint methods.
Mr Chauvin's advocate. Why were you not in court during his trail?
Maybe you were Derrick Chauvin's police trainer

Sports › Re: I Love My People But Nigeria Is Very Corrupt - Israel Adesanya by wirinet(m): 2:18pm On Apr 13, 2023
Gajagojo:
No be from pikin way get sense you go hear say him papa mouth dey smell.
What has he contributed to fix the problem? Is it Kenyans that will fix it?
Did he not run away with his family?
If he loves Nigeria he should come and fight in Nigeria,open gyms and inspire people
Nigeria is this it is that. Who is responsible for fixing
come and fight in Nigeria ke? Ask Bash Ali that tried it. He was frustrated and disgraced by officials of the sports ministry and the Nigerian Boxing Federation.
If he attempts it, sports ministry officials will demand bribe, state governments officials will demand bribe, even agberos (youths) will demand their share before they allow any show.

Then which venue can host such internation events without the security, power and logistic challenges that is unique to Nigeria.

Is India not corrupt?how many times do you hear Indians running their mouths stupidly about the country
Yes we know say yansh dey smell, we no go throway am. We dey manage ourselves.
If you don't have solutions
Shut up
Yes India is corrupt, but our own is on another level. Corruption is a culture here. India would never install 75 WiFi points for N24 billion. India would never buy 10 fire trucks for N12 billion.

Prime minister Mordi does not fly to London, Paris or Saudi Arabian hospitals to treat common illness.
Sports › Re: I Love My People But Nigeria Is Very Corrupt - Israel Adesanya by wirinet(m): 2:08pm On Apr 13, 2023
He said, “There is a lot of red tape in Nigeria. Nigeria is a very corrupt place. I love my people, but it is just that the government, everyone is finding ways to siphon money.”
But 99% of them are either Christians or Muslims, the are churches on every street (sometimes up to 6) and mosques in every 3 streets. They fast, pray, pilgrimage to Mecca and Israel, and form holy holy holy, but Nigerians are about the most dishonest, criminally minded and outrightly wicked people on the face of the earth.

This simply means Christianity and Islam has failed us. It failed to help us build a peaceful and progressing nation.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by wirinet(m): 1:35pm On Apr 13, 2023
Obrigardo:
Nytimes hasn't look into nairaland foreign affairs or should I say Russian affairs. We have a lot of useful idiots carrying water for the murderer here

Mynd44 mukina2 Seun

There's a need to keep watch as the spotlight is beaming to this direction
That's why people like us are still here, to counter Russian propaganda and their agents so as to minimise the damage to society in general and not just the US.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by wirinet(m):
basilico:
Gosh. Global warming .Pushed by your lackeys

Now they pushing a nuclear showdot. A nuclear explosion is a warming, thing. Melts everything within it's epicenter. If you went to school You would understand symbolism Not grammatical meaning

For instance You are an oaf
You just cannot resist the urge to defend Trump's words no matter how stupid it sounds. So because the epicenter of a nuclear explosion melts everything within a radius of 1km, that equates to global nuclear warming as insinuated by Trump? Even forest fires spanning thousands of hectares are not said to cause global warming.

You need to be ignorant to join the Trump cult.

A nuclear war will cause a nuclear winter and not a global warming.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by wirinet(m): 6:24pm On Apr 12, 2023
Obrigardo:
He said nuclear warming. How is that even a thing?
You know Trump has limited vocabulary apart from limited knowledge. It should rather be nuclear winter.
Anyway, we get the drift. Nuclear Armaggedon is a more serious threat than global warming.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by wirinet(m): 7:53am On Apr 12, 2023
Obrigardo:
Criminal defendant trump is a disaster lol 😂
He said the world's problem is not global warming but NUCLEAR WARMING 🤦😂

I know basilico will find an angle to this sick disastrous interview by Cucker tarlson. tucker was reduced to trash, couldn't even get talk for like 30 seconds.

It's a shame these are basilicos influencers.
In this case, I think Trump is right. We are closer to a nuclear war than at any other period in our history. With Finland joining and Sweden joining NATO, its only a matter of time before they get dragged into the Russian - Ukraine war and a direct confrontation with NATO.

I am more worried about a Nuclear war than global Warming right now.
Politics › Re: Miss Bola A. Tinubu Is The Daughter Of Alhaji Kafaru Tinubu, Document Reveals by wirinet(m): 7:36am On Apr 12, 2023
soojar:
A former judge of International Court of Justice, Hague, Netherlands named Prince Bola Ajibola died a few days back. He was a male.





We learn everyday
Prince Bola Ajibola 's full name (which obviously appears on all his certificates) are Bolasodun Adesumbo Ajibola. What is Asiwaju Bola Tinubu's full name? In yoruba Bola is a short form of a longer name just like Wole, Ola, Fola, Sola, etc., that is the full meaning of Bola in Tinubu's name?
Family › Re: I Don't Want My Mother To Come For My Omugwo by wirinet(m): 7:03am On Apr 12, 2023
Orinechi:
Our is still serving us. Those of u who who don't know how and where u started will alway claim what u have written above to safe face. If i may ask what aspect no longer serve man?
What aspect does a woman not having inheritance in her fathers estate serve?

What aspect does women having to endure humiliating rituals after the death of her husband serve?

What aspect does the Osu outcast system serve?

And lots more....

Even the Omugwo culture no longer serves its purpose as it has become an avenue for conflict and exploitation of the daughter's family. It will be cheaper and less troublesome to hire a nanny. Why will a woman leave her husbands home and her work to go and do nanny for her daughter's family. It is assumed she is jobless. What will happen to the husband and her own family when the mother is away for 4 to 6 months to do omugwo?
Family › Re: I Don't Want My Mother To Come For My Omugwo by wirinet(m): 6:58am On Apr 12, 2023
Orinechi:
Appreciate ur own culture for once. In many culture my foot
What's there to appreciate about misogynistic culture that oppresses women and children?

Most so called African cultures are ways of suppressing and exploiting vulnerable members of the society - women, children, the poor and the disabled.
Family › Re: I Don't Want My Mother To Come For My Omugwo by wirinet(m): 7:44pm On Apr 11, 2023
Ijelenwanyioma:
I understand you sir but this happened about 5 years ago and she has not even enter 60 then. I have washing machine and market to our house is not up to 5mins walk. Even most times she will tell me to bath my baby that she's tired. I know how my mum treat other people children and she treat me differently. From my childhood, we were never close even though we lived together. She believes my father loves me more than her which is even not true. Like is it my fault for my daddy to love me?
It's your house, it's your life. Tell her straight up that you don't need omugwo now. Get a paid help or a nanny to take care of the baby. I am sure you and your husband can afford one. Africans are too emotional and tend to succumb to emotional blackmail.

I don't like that igbo omugwo culture. It's probably because lots of women are jobless or unemployed. Will you ask a woman that's working or running a business to leave her work and come to take care of you and your baby for 4 months?
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by wirinet(m): 6:12pm On Apr 11, 2023
basilico:
Joe Biden led an all white all male Senate subcommittee to vet Clarence Thomas.

Their paths converged at the U.S. Department of Education in 1981, when Thomas hired Hill to be his special assistant in the department’s Office of Civil Rights.
Shortly after that, according to Hill, Thomas began harassing her, a pattern that would continue after Thomas left his post to become chairman of the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (EEOC), and Hill moved with him to continue as his assistant


So much for harassment

FAA logs . I would love to see verified logs And FBI to say what was happening in paedo island
And these are Joe Biden's crimes? This is going from going from ridiculous to insanity.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by wirinet(m): 5:54pm On Apr 11, 2023
basilico:
A summary of crimes by JB and his handlers that remain unprosecuted

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2023/04/joe_biden_the_puppet.html
Where are the crimes by Joe Biden before we start talking about prosecuted or unprosecuted?

I read your links and it did not list even a single crime.
I am very convinced you are one of those working in Russian troll farms in West Africa targeted at causing division within the US. You scout the most stupid right wing sites on the Internet and even without reading scream eureka.

Politics › Re: Buhari Deserves Commendation For Diversifying From Oil – Femi Adesina by wirinet(m): 5:18pm On Apr 11, 2023
ChatterHouse:
Truly oil is no longer the voque

He has diversity to banditry, kidnapping, terrorism and criminality







Those diversity economy is booming
You forgot POS. Before Buhari the banks and ATM were the only place you could withdraw money, but with Buhari there is a POS operator every 50 meters, in some places every 10 metres, where we have to pay N200 to withdraw 1000 of our own money.
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by wirinet(m): 11:44am On Apr 11, 2023
basilico:
Biden has advisers who should and I am sure they did tell him that botched withdrawal was not the best thing.
He was not bound to order immediate withdrawal, he could have delayed it

He reversed every Trump policy he could as soon he sat in the oval office. Examples
Remain in Mexico policy. He fling wide open the southern border, adopted a catch release policy

He blocked oil exploration on large swathes of federal lands and offshore

He stopped keystone pipeline 40k jobs were lost. Learn to code.

Reversed sanctions on Nordstream construction , which was quickly completed.

Joe Biden botched up Afghan withdrawal.Simple.
What did you expect Biden to do in Afghanistan with the 2,500 troops your personal lord and master left when he left the White House?
Did you expect him to defend Afghanistan with 2500 troops?
Politics › Re: Group Declares War Against Professor Wole Soyinka, To Boycott Books And Events by wirinet(m): 11:30am On Apr 11, 2023
DeepSight:
Save that "whataboutist" arguments are not intended for courts but simply to show up the hypocrisy of a particular position in informal discourse. The argument is most often deployed where the very party condemning something is also guilty of it. Like I said - its not for the courts - just to show up hypocrisy.
I don't see it like that. I see it as a case of interests? I have my rights to fight for my interests, you have your rights to fight for yours.

For example LP is more interested in calling out INEC, police and the APC for denying its supporters their rights to vote in Lagos. I expect them to gather evidence, shout and scream about the injustice and go to court. I don't expect LP to go to Anambra to gather evidence for crimes commited by its own supporters. That I expect from APC, PDP and others. No one should prevent people that feels strongly about the crimes commited in Anambra from shouting and screaming about it. You should not expect other to fight for issues that interests you.
Politics › Re: Group Declares War Against Professor Wole Soyinka, To Boycott Books And Events by wirinet(m): 9:22am On Apr 11, 2023
DiscoverID:
And what is wrong with whataboutism? He who comes into equity must come with clean hands.
Everything is wrong with whataboutism. The courts don't entertain whataboutism.
If you commit a crime, the court would not free you because your neighbour commited the same offence and was not arrested, even if you present video evidence of your friend committing the crime.

If whe justify crimes with whataboutism then no crime would ever be prosecuted.
Politics › Re: Group Declares War Against Professor Wole Soyinka, To Boycott Books And Events by wirinet(m): 9:17am On Apr 11, 2023
DiscoverID:
I don't even like Tinubu at the beginning, but my supports for me was borne out the consistent threats received from obidient just by expressing my fundamental rights of trying to scrutinised the Obi's candidacy during the build up to the last presidential elections. The bullying and abuse was so much that obidients literally hijacked the cyberspace, twitter and Facebook to be precise. Obidients, like virulent herder vermins were coming at anyone that said anything against "saint obi". Then it occurred to some us too see the semblance between obidients and nazis modus operandi.
So, this is not about Yoruba people at first, but if you have to call me a tribalist to defend my freedom of expression, then so be it.

But again, where are the Liberal igbos in all this? They silently gave their tacit approval to the online mobs, none and I mean no one came out to caution their activities. Even Peter obi was enjoying the tides and was silently in approval, after all according to him, it's a means to and end.
You allowed politicians use tribalism and fault lines within the Nigerian state to manipulate your emotions. That had been the modus operandi in this presidential style of elections. Since the politicians have no ideology and even no idea of governance, they use tribalism and emotional manipulations to get into office. It's what caused militancy, sharia, Boko Haram, etc.

Now compared the bullying and abuse to what happened in the US during the Last two elections, you will see it was much worse there. The Democrats and Republican supporters were at each others jugular. Trump was abused and insulted way more than Tinubu. Joe Biden was called all sorts of names before he won the last elections. The racist card was played by all sides. Even Buhari was insulted and Abused far more than Tinubu in this election. But it did not cause an all out tribal war between fulanis and igbos. The yorubas in general who ordinarily were the most politically Liberal group in Nigeria have allowed themselves to become tribalists.

Now all these would not have exasperated if Nigerian elections were free and fair. But if we are to be true with ourselves, the last election left much to be desired. Believe me the Obidients would have made a fool of themselves if the elections went according to INECS promise and the results announced was consistent with the ones announced at each polling unit and uploaded unto IREV. But we all saw lots of manipulations and INEC refused to entertain any objections to any results. This was what is heightening tensions.
And then Yorubas (a few influential ones) said igbos should not vote in Lagos or Yorubaland anymore, because they are strangers. This is contrary to Nigerian constitution. Even in sharia North, igbos or any other tribe is not targeted to deny them their voting rights.
Politics › Re: Group Declares War Against Professor Wole Soyinka, To Boycott Books And Events by wirinet(m): 8:44am On Apr 11, 2023
DiscoverID:
What happened in the South East? People were maimed and molested just by expressing their desire to vote for apc, so stop making mockery of yourself. It was in the open. The lady from anambra that contested under apc was lucky to be alive but all her properties were destroyed just for daring to contest under apc. Osita iheme elder brother was dragged out of a moving vehicle and shot at close range because he supports apc.
When people have nothing to say, they resort to whataboutism. Whataboutism has never been a justification for crimes. If someone or people in Anambra were prevented from exercising their constitutional rights of voting, the party affected should take up the matter and the perpetrators should be investigated and prosecuted. You are free to take up the case, you will have my full support. But you cannot use a crime commited in Anambra to justify crimes commited in Lagos. You are telling us that no crime should ever be prosecuted because it had happened somewhere else in Nigeria.
Politics › Re: Group Declares War Against Professor Wole Soyinka, To Boycott Books And Events by wirinet(m): 8:39am On Apr 11, 2023
DiscoverID:
Sure, right from the beginning, they said a Yoruba man will never succeed Buhari instead military should take over or power should remain in the North. They added me, on one of their Obi supports groups where they contributed billions of naira just to make sure a Yoruba man should not win. So, I laughed at the stupidity of the so called "woke" Yorubas.
Yorubas used to be the most liberal and fair tribe in terms of politics, bit it seems Tinubu has changed that. Tinubu has turned the Yorubas into tribal warlords just like the Fulanis.
It was Tinubu that started using tribe as a campaign strategy, when he said it was Yorubas turn, and subsequently it was his turn. How is it Yorubas turn? Yorubas had done a full 8 years president and almost 8 years vice president all within the last 24 years. So how can Tinubu campaign that's its Yorubas turn? Maybe after Tinubu, the Fulanis should demand its their turn again so we can know Nigeria's presidency is a musical chair between Yorubas and Fulanis.

That's is not even the Koko of the matter. The koko of the matter is the integrity of the Election. The only people defending the integrity of the elections are Tinubus spokesmen and tribal bigots. All others including international observers, international media and all opposition parties said the elections did not meet expectations to be considered free and fair.
Yaradua was honest enough to admit that the elections that brought him was flawed and he will work to improve future elections, but Tribalists and Tinubus spokesmen are claiming that this election is the freest and fairest election in Nigeria's history just because INEC declared their tribesman winner.
Politics › Re: Group Declares War Against Professor Wole Soyinka, To Boycott Books And Events by wirinet(m): 8:21am On Apr 11, 2023
Berankis:
Some of us saw it from the beginning and never fell for it. They suddenly put forward a candidate without any meaningful pedigree and want to force everyone into accepting him. No be madness be that!
And that's why you guys denied the igbos their constitutional rights of voting in an election?
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by wirinet(m): 11:55am On Apr 10, 2023
benalvino3:
this is coming from TDS.
I did not see France trading on Yuan while asking for Europe to reduce dependence on the US dollars during Trump era,
I did not see him urging Europe not to get involve with China concerning Taiwa during Trump era,
asking them to stay Neutral as a third pole,
in fact, During Trump France was sailing through the South China Sea, and two years ago, they sent their Nuclear submarine as deterence to China against Taiwan.
While the US is skeptical about Chinese peace deal between Russia and Ukraine, France is urging china to go ahead.
Saudi Arabia is giving the middle finger to the United states by cutting oil production.
So what has changed?
Trump cult worshipper.

Trump had destroyed decades long friendships with traditional allies with his America First Policy. He attacked traditional allies while grovelling up to traditional foes like Russia and North Korea. He was preparing to kill NATO.

Even though Biden is attempting to repair the damage done by Trump to relationship between US and traditional allies, countries of Europe, South Korea and Japan can never really trust the US again, because the next government could be a Republican with their America First philosophy.

Angela Merkel warned the EU that the US cannot be relied upon anymore after her very first meeting with President Trump. Emmanuel Macron told EU to start preparing to take their destiny in their own hands and stop relying on the US.

It will be foolhardy to expect EU not to take contingency plans in case the US has another mad man in power that is ready to throw them under the bus.

Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Trump Is The 47th President! by wirinet(m): 3:18am On Apr 10, 2023
benalvino3:
Macron sees the writings on the wall. he has criticize the cultural regression America has been on for a while... I think he knows that woke America is destined to fail and he wants to wash his hands off.
False narrative. Macron (and Angela Merkel) had been advocating for less dependence on US since President Trump came within "America First" policy. Trump and Republicans had shown the world you cannot rely on USA.

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