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Wow! This is extremely sad.

KnightsTemplar:
The truth is that crime rate is higher in the US than it is here. I Watched an interview of an American woman who was questioned about her decision to move to Nigeria, and her response was that, she was more worried about being shot and killed in the US, than being kidnapped in Lagos. Just that the US have a working system, and a more responsive security system as the case may be.

Death rate is higher in Nigeria. I think that should be the ultimate factor.

BigDawsNet:
You still need that American visa?


Rip dude...God will take care of your family

A man shot in the states, it's news. Hundreds die in Nigeria, it's normal. Yes, I still need that visa.

richiemcgold:
america and gun violence are like this

Lol... Thank God there's no gun violence in Nigeria, right?

I'm sure they're both getting what they want. HML to them!

elonmuskbaby:
then such piece of garbage is not supposed to be on NL.the mods should have deleted it because this is thrash

It was posted in the celebrities section. That section exists for things like this and there are people who find it interesting. I understand if it's not your thing but the forum isn't tailored to fit into your personal preferences. It's a public forum. The ideal thing would be for you to ignore anything you don't find appealing. Being the first to comment on a thread you don't find newsworthy just to say you don't find it newsworthy doesn't really help cause you're only proving such threads could generate traffic and that's all the mods need to keep pushing them to the front page. Hope you catch my drift.

elonmuskbaby:
How is this news Now

She put it on her account. Her own Instagram account where she has the right to put anything she likes just like anyone else. Then NL and bloggers found it newsworthy. I'd say it's not her doing.

crafteck:
If you keep believing in oyinbo upbringing, lookwhere una de go, better get sense

You guys always keep hammering on gender modifications as if it's the worst thing that has happened to mankind. If you're given the options of switching your problems as a country with those of Canada, would you honestly opt to to stick with the Nigerian problems? Yes, we advocate for freedom of choice. You have the right to see it as a bad thing, but even at that, it doesn't make the general situation of things in the western world any worse than what is obtainable in Africa. This idea of picking one "vice" and hammering on it is just ridiculous.

Ddokie:
The guys who laid the foundations of the developed societies and made those societies what they are today were raised very hard and under very strict standards. The guys who will destroy the west are the ones suggesting funny standards of training.

The way we are raised here isn’t bad at all (except for those who go on the extreme), and is not responsible for our bad circumstances.

The guys who laid the foundations of the developed societies and made those societies what they are today were raised very hard and under very strict standards. The same standards that Africa has been applying since creation, why is the foundation not laid just yet? If the way to harden kids is not responsible for your situation, how come you believe the strict standards of the ancient westerners are responsible for their superiority? You can't apply double standards. And if none of the both approaches is superior to the other, then what's the justification for hitting your kids?

kiddkash:
the bible also says flogging will not kill the child but leaving the child hoping the child will change, the child will go out and do worse

Hope has never changed a child. I wouldn't advise you bank on it. But there are other ways to be strict asides flogging. Just saying.

UncleKoboko:
Shut up!
Hypocrites always point to figurative nonsense whenever they don't feel comfortable with the nonsense written in their story book

Guys, this person I'm quoting was probably flogged by his or her parents. Now, would you say he turned out well or better than kids who weren't flogged? He doesn't know my religion. He doesn't even know me. But his best approach to make his point known is to start with "shut up" while gearing up for a fight. He knows I can't flog him so there's nothing to fear. He never learned the need for decorum when there’s no one to hit him.

This is just an illustration.

Godszilla:
How can a thinking human being take advise from the west on how to raise a child with what you see and hear that is happening over there - it's scare. There is a difference between intelligence n wisdom.
The bible didn't say abuse the child it says spare the rod n spoil the child n that's the truth dat can't b disputed. The Bible even dislike u treating your animals cruelly let alone your child.
I gues u don't have children n u probably believe
what you read. You cant separate love from justice

My people if the offense warranty you flogging pls do but DONT ABUSE the child,ibeg its for you own good not just the child,

There's a difference between intelligence and wisdom and you think Africa is wiser than the western world, right? Ok, that's fine.

Back to the topic, I was raised by parents who never hit me for once. So I'm a product of my own experience. The Bible made the statement but the same bible also said you should cut out the body part that would lead you to sin. How many have you cut out so far? There are many ways not to spare the rod, bro. How many times did Joseph hit Jesus when he disobeyed?

Llight101:
What of countries like China and Japan? De Sabi flog children ooooo

Even these countries were 'colonized' by the western world. So one can't say flogging thier kids brought them to where they are. I'm not saying the western style is the best, but flogging isn't any better. So if flogging doesn't create better adults, what's the justification for it?

Nauttyprof:
You chose a side of the narrative too. No method of discipline have produced a perfect child.

A child not hit like 'an animal' as you have said also have produced children who lack morals, stubborn and don't value the place of parental guidance. I speak from experience and this woman almost lost it since she trained her children abroad. Not just her but other testimonies too.

I didn't choose a side. The action is here hitting a kid. And that's what needs to be justified. If none of the two sides is superior to the other like you said, then what's the justification for hitting your kid?

ezenwajosh:
exactly bro....reading through the post there's a place they said WHEN YOU KNOW SOMETHING DOESNT WORK ITS A PRETTY GOOD REASON TO LOOK FOR DIFFERENT APPROACH that's something you can't find in a black man. a black man stick to some Bible instructions that isn't helping and I asked how many times did Joseph hit Jesus with a stick when he told his father am not going with you am in my fathers house already. Why didn't Jesus go home first.....do his chores then go back to the church.....why didn't he respect his parents and upon doing this....did his parents hit him with a stick or rod according to his proverb bla bla bla

Try after church and tell your mum and dad oh am not going home....am in my fathers house

You've said it all.

bukatyne:
You have gone an extreme to prove a point.

Not all parents hit their kids like animals; some beat their kids with love and explain why they have done so.

I am not saying the Nigerian way of child upbringing is totally right: Nigerian parents punish their kids.... They don't set clear expectations, train them on what to do, engage them to understand their personality or reward good behavior enough and they can pick that from this article and do better.

Don't mean they have to discard flogging in love when necessary.

We can read people's good points to add to ours instead of throwing ours away like zombies.

Thanks for the info. However, I still believe a parent can be extremely strict without hitting the kids. I grew up with parents like this and my siblings don't hit thier kids too. Like I always said, we're all products of our experiences.

Ideyontop:
As you know more than God that asked us to use the rod, well done. Raise your own children without discipline and when they start becoming gay, lesbians or non binary then your eyes go open like okpolo.

Lol... the same bible said you should cut out the body part that would lead you to sin. How many have you cut out so far? You'll have to know what God is saying before asserting who claims to know more than God.

fof1:
IT IS NOT FIGURATIVE...AND IT DOESN'T MEAN U SHOULD HIT D CHILD WITH A ROD. MODERATION IS REQUIRED IN ALL THINGS... DISCIPLINE IS NOT BEATING D CHILD WHEN CAUGHT IN ERROR,PLS. COMMUNICATIONS AND CORRECTIONS, PERSUASION AND LOVE ARE ALL INVOLVED IN D PROCESSES TO MAKE A WHOLE BEING... THE UNICEF CAN NOT TELL US BETTER THAN THE BIBLE,PLS.

Ok, sir. Your first line is self contradictory though. You said it's not figurative, then you went ahead to describe it as figurative. If it doesn't literally mean you should hit the child with a rod, then it's figurative.

coolcharm:
What good are the humans raised in the west? Bunch of spoilt and rotten heads right? Correcting your children with koboko 2.0 once in a while doesn't mean you don't love them or are not compassionate. Infact, it is an expression of love. You've got to balance the mix.

I never said Africans don't love thier kids. I'm sure they do. I'm only talking about their way of expressing that love.

A little deviation, you ask what good the humans raised in the West are, yet they are the brains behind the modern world as you know it today. Civilization started in Africa yet the West is light years ahead today. Everyone wants to run away from Africa to the West yet we say they're of no good. I know the only thing Africa has got going her is her dignity and pride, and Africans like to think they're more reasonable humans. That's a great sense of pride. But it would be ridiculous to pretend Africa has contributed half as much as the West to the well-being of mankind. Let's just leave it at that.

Back to the topic, I think flogging kids is a brute force approach adopted by people who do not have the knowledge or skills to implement alternative methods. It's hardening and only teaches the kids to master better of ways doing what they want to do without getting caught. I think a kid who doesn't do something wrong not because he understands the implications, but just out of fear of being hit is a time bomb.

Interesting. It looks harmless, but scary nevertheless.

Thanks for sharing.

For the same reasons some people prefer apples to oranges.

coolcharm:
Very nonsense post.

Spare the rod an spoil the child.

Proverbs 13:24

Whoever spares the rod hates their children, but the one who loves their children is careful to discipline them.

That's actually a figurative statement. If hitting kids with rod makes them better adults, Africa would have been producing the best humans. I believe a child raised without being hit like an animal has a higher tendency of being honest, open and compassionate.

Hhmm... the school has rules and she either accepts them or find another school. But then again, why hit a kid for her haircut when you could easily reach out to the parents and reprimand them if the hairstyle is not acceptable by the school's standards? That girl is barely a teen. She's the responsibility of her parents/guardians. Talk to her parents, you can even expel her if they refuse to conform to the rules of the school; just don't treat the kid like an animal.

Tapout:
See how he specified "Rihanna's country", like she will be waiting to welcome us when we get there. How many of our leader have been to those countries for vacation or anything?? That's what we should be asking him.

Haha.. that got me laughing too. Even Rihanna 'japa-ed' from the country to the US. It's a nice place actually. Besides, I believe choosing a vacation location has little to do with how developed the place. I just fear these countries will start requesting visiting visa when Nigerians start going there as "permanent visitors".

ifyken:
Unfortunately I am a Nigerian. All the problems of we are facing e.g religious bigotry, homophobia, tribalism were not as pronounced before this BUHARI led administration. BUHARI just worsened everything. I even fear for the sanity of most nigerians, so don't judge them by what you see on nairaland those are just coping mechanism for the frustration and anger they feel. Some coping mechanism are trolling people online,praying in church or mosques, casual sex etc.
I will admit that I am a psychopath. If you were to give me a machine that I will press and it will randomly kill a person before this BUHARI administration, I would not use it but now I would use it not out of malice or hatred or frustration but out of apathy. I don't care if it will kill a member of my family, friends, an innocent child or even me. I just don't care.
Life is pain for most of us and the elites don't care about us and although I am angry about the elites,if I become one of them I you would not care about the poor masses. I think that makes me a hypocrite but I don't care

Wow! I didn't see that coming. You're really angry. But you don't seem like the type of person you're trying to portray. I mean, you clearly know the difference between right and wrong, and you wrote like someone with conscience. I don't have a solution because we all have our problems regardless of where we live. But I sure know that going haywire when one is frustrated is the fastest way to spiral down. It has never helped anyone. In fact, it makes you a source of frustration to others, and the state of Nigeria today is a good example of the possible rippling effect of that. We always have choices and we must live with the consequences our actions. Do what your heart tells you is right and stay open minded. Good luck!

Wow... women are trying.

GIANTPLUSHUB:
Hmmmmmm. Her father worships her because she's a girl child. Na male child wey dey carry responsibilities no need worshipping and love abi. Some talks aren't just necessary

Lol... it's not a competition. We say black lives matter not because white lives don't matter, but because racism against blacks is the subject. Likewise, she's preaching love for the girl child not because the boy child deserves any less, but because the African society already prefers the boy child. Tonto already worships her son, that's enough to tell you she wasn't out to undermine the boy child.

Good morning.

LaserWr:
But you know he silenced kim jung un of North korea after the initial gragra

What exactly did he do NK?

ifyken:
Hey quick question, sorry for derailing the topic. I assume you are a black American how did you get to know nairaland app and what is your view of this country based on nairaland

American? Ewww... Hell no!

Lol... just kidding. But yeah, I'm not American. And as much as I like spending time in the US, I think I prefer being Canadian. To answer your question, I've been on NL for almost 10 years. A Nigerian friend of mine who came here to do his MSc. program introduced me to the app when I indicated interest in learning the African culture (actually, I can't remember what exactly I wanted to learn, but you get the point). My parents are Nigerians, so invariably, I'm also a Nigerian (at least, I have a Nigerian passport). So I'm not actually your guy if you really want to have an idea of what an American with no connection to Nigeria thinks about the country.

Now speaking as a Nigerian, I'd say NL does not paint a good image of the country. Heaven knows I'd never share this app with my non Nigerian friends, lol. Asides the fact that people are unnecessarily aggressive here, the herd lifestyle is disquieting. People of religion A think they are superior to those of religion B. Ethnic group C thinks ethnic group D is inferior. Region E people think they can't progress until region F people fail. The police/military believe they are higher citizens than the civilians. The men believe hardworking women are a threat to thier status as the superior gender. Straight people think it's thier God-given right to kill gay people. The politicians believe themselves to be above the law. The youths see gaming the system as being "smart". Everybody is blaming everybody else. Nobody is really willing to fight for true equality/liberty. People only cry out when thier own herd is at the receiving end of the discrimination. And then everyone acts surprised when the leaders aren't angels. Where would the angels come from? Lol

Anyway, this is an overly generalized perspective and shouldn't undermine the fact that people are different. Besides, NL isn't really enough to go by.

Are you Nigerian?

TheGidRedpiller:
@WoundedLamb You don't seem to get this thing do you?

Women were never even meant to go in the field in the first place! By default, men are supposed to do the hustling while the women stay home and take care of the household! That is how the system was programed until feminism came in and ruined that beautiful set up!

Your wife is supposed to be like your first child not someone competing to be on top i the family! Don't be ignorant pls!

Lol... you call yourself a red piller and you're this scared of women? Pardon me, I really don't know how your redpill/bluepill thing works but I believe a man who's looking for a woman without dreams to marry is a sissy who is easily intimidated. An true male whose masculinity is not as fragile wouldn’t have any problem with career women.

But like I said, it's very simple, don't marry a lady with high potentials. Get one without ambitions and be the only earner. Some of us can't enjoy the kind of life we want or give our kids the very best without support from our spouses, so leave those hardworking ones for us. Set a standard for yourself and stick to it. We are products of our life experiences and backgrounds. I went to some of the best schools North America cause my parents pooled their resources together to make it happen. I won't deny my kids that cause I'm intimidated by ambitious women.

Limassol:
At the expense of her dignity and respect? I mean even while treated like trash?

KevinDein:
Haha, good question. That Woundedlamb is sure good at engaging in all sorts of mental gymnastics to prove some non-existent point.

Dignity and respect? Lol... You guys can't be serious. How many people really think about dignity and respect when pursuing sexual pleasure? The man of the house that sleeps with the help doesn't know he'd likely lose dignity and respect? Does the madame that sleeps with the driver think of dignity and respect? All of a sudden, you expect it from a random lady you met? While trying to judge her with high standards, you end setting a low one for yourself.

You're so eager to call her stupid but you don't really know what she wants and as a result, you can't tell if she's getting it. You treat her like trash but she does not mind. The door is very open for her to leave but she insists on staying. She even gives you food. And you think she's not getting what she wants? I'm not saying she isn't in love, but if you really think that's the only possibility, then we're going to have a hard time figuring out who the stupid one is.

LaserWr:
I really miss Donald Trump, if he was here who is China?this happens if you have a weak person as American president.

Joe Biden is weak

When you say "this happens...", what exactly happens? Nothing special has happened yet. Countries do war games every now and then. North Korea even made it a routine during Trump's administration. Or should the American president stop them from doing war games to prove he's tough?