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NGpatriot:Care to tell us how you arrived at the bolded? |
12Monkeys:I wonder what they’re looking for again in the US when they have exactly what they asked for in Nigeria: Buhari and his next-level governance! |
SilasNwude:The guy is something else! They’re so obsessed about ‘capturing’ a south-east state...you have to wonder if it’s the same Igbos they tagged ‘inconsequential 5 percenters’! ![]() |
obiekunie2:Davido should have done a collabo with him for the hit single ‘Assurance’! ![]() |
NaijirianKing:When are they actually gonna start construction works on this Enyimba City!? I’m sick and tired of hearing all this preliminary plans that seems to drag on for ever! |
booscy:In Biafra, Africa died! |
mimichinaza:Egbema ethnic nationality! ![]() |
slimfit1:Hehehehe ![]() You would have thought that after reading all that Quran, that at the very least he will be true to his conscience and his God! ![]() |
Hisroyalbadmeat:Audio clean up! ![]() |
[quote author=FrLukas post=86100013][/quote]PART 2 You were denied an international airport. Then when you were granted one, your sister, Stella Oduah who was the minister of aviation at the time decided to give you, her people, a substandard airport and diverted most of the money into her pocket. Today that airport has been closed because pilots have refused to land there citing the worst runway ever. Lemme guess, the Yorubas are at fault for this.Dude, this narrative you Igbo haters try to sell that Senator Stella Oduah gave Igbos a 'substandard' airport and stole the money meant for it is exactly what we mean when we talk of the misinformation, propaganda and downright lies emanating from the Lagos-Ibadan expressway media hacks! I dare you to post a link to a news report/s confirming Princess Stella was convicted in court for stealing public funds meant for the Aviation sector she oversaw as minister! The fact she was hounded out of office when the weak-willed GEJ caved in to your rabble-rousing, lies and demands for her head on a platter, and was then not able to finish implementing the vision she had for the avaiation sector (AIIA, Enugu inclusive) is not what you can use to then blame her for the shotcomings in the sector after her tenure! You engineer her sack, and then have the temerity to point out what was left undone after her departure? Dude, at least have some self-respect! Haba! The issue of the runway has been addressed by me in previous threads. I believe the primary blame for this should go to the ministry quality-control officials who probably colluded with the contractors or were not sufficiently experienced enough to know when standards were not being adhered to! Also. the topography of the area which led to flooding could have been a contributory factor in the runway failing so soon after it was first rehabilitated! I would imagine that had the runway showed signs of failing so soon after rehabilitation, and had she still been in office at the time, the contractors would have been ordered back to site immediately...and not when it had almost totally collapsed as was allowed to happen under the Buhari/Hadi-Sirika admin'! What i discovered with Princess Stella is that during her short stint as minister, she was trying to touch, gradually, all sections/regions of the county so no one feels left out....this she was doing with the little funds the ministry had at its disposal! This stands in stark contrast to what we see today, where Buhari and his ministers concentrate mainly on certain sections of the country found not to have given him 5%! He only turns to the neglected sections only when its time for campaigns or when the leaders of the section/region concerned come to Abuja to beg him! He loves it when Igbos have to beg him for anything....it helps to reinforce his belief Igbos are the 'conquered ones' while his Fulani ethnicty are the 'owners and controllers' of Nigeria and its destiny! If anyone should be blamed for the shortcomings due to misgovernance that were found in the aviation sector after the GEJ admin', it should be Chidoka. Though i'm cutting him some slack because his tenure was so short! However, he did well in enthroning systems and procedures which were hitherto lacking in the industry! Dude, Igboland is not landlocked! Ogbuakwu in Abia state has direct access to the sea and a seaport can be built there! Sure it would cost a bit more seing as the channel may have to be widened and/or dredged, but the facts as they stand today -esp' when you see what's been done with man-made waterways like the Panama and Suez canal- is that Igboland has access to the sea! I know given you hatred for Igbos and desire to see us face economic challenges, you'd be furious about this fact....but facts are facts mate! The fact Igbos vote for a northerner....or Fulani to be specific, even while a Igbo is also running for the same office is called tactical voting devoid of sentiments! Or you want Igbos to vote for one of theirs that doesn't stand any realistic chance of winning, thereby giving a known bigot and Igbo hater like Buhari an easier ride and splitting the votes of his nearest challenger? Dude, what do you take us for? You read to respond not to understand. You have a shitty comprehension skill.Dude, this was your initial reply when i asked why Igbos have the highest cut-off marks for JAMB: You mean the same bastardised exam that parents pay for expo to see the questions days before the exams? Funny. And dont mention WAEC either. Teachers help their students score high marks. It happens everywhere in Nigeria.Methinks you're the one with low comphension skills....either that, or you're being your usual evasive and dishonest self! Now if cheating in exams is a nationwide malaise as you posit, does this now explain why Igbos have the highest cut-off marks in these exams? We're assuming going by your assertion that you agree the conditions are the same nationwide! How then do you account for the fact one section/ethnicity has cut-off marks highers than others? You've still not answered that question....or maybe you're incapable of answering it! You want an answer to this? Go and read the original post of this thread. I won't repeat facts for you.Your argument here is at best quite perverse and its worrying to see a southerner hold this view! So because the north have rigged to political process and now 'dominating politics' its ok for you to throw in the towel and accept the status-quo as it is! If your argument is that the Yoruba don't want secession, then fair enough....what then do they want, and now that you've 'aligned yourselves with the centre' as you previously posited, how come you've not got the north/Hausa-Fulani to agree to your terms for a Nigeria that you would term to be fair to all sections and be one you would be happy to bequeth to you childrena and grandchildren? Could it be that you've signed up to a arrangement/partnership in which you have no say and are now treated as inconsequential? You said yourself that the Yoruba are not playing 'opposition politics' for the first time since independence, so that would mean you're now partners with the Hausa/Fulani abi? Now can you say these past 5 years you've been 'calling the shots' that you've been able to restructure Nigeria to the country of your dreams....since you don't want secession? I think we all know the answer to that question! Your talk of 'the shoe being on the other foot now, and so Ndigbo should enjoy it' is typical 'crabs-in-a-barrel' talk as Ndigbo are not experiencing or going through anything the Yoruba are not in Nigeria today! You want to hear "kpim" from our end when you haven't sowed "kpim" here? Na Yoruba people send you message? Abegi.Mazi Kanu is an apostle of the truth Nigeria has been trying to ignore or sweep under the carpet! He is not perfect, and may go a bit overboard in his rhetoric sometimes, but i susbcribe to much of what he says on current ongoings in Nigeria! In any event, he and IPOB have struck up a more conciliatory tone of late...esp' with the Yoruba, and that is where our focus should be...not what he may have said in anger in the past! After all even Awo has said or done things which he hasn't apologised for. How do you want posterity to judge him? ou and your people are sorely mistaken, thinking that the average Yoruba person is interested in what goes on in the East.Do i or Ndigbo think 'the average Yoruba person is interested in what goes on in the east'? Certainly not! But insofar as you're 'aligned with the centre' and are no more playing 'opposition politics' as you yourself posited earlier, and insofar as Ndigbo are still part of Nigeria, it stands to reason that our paths are bound to cross every now and again! An ideal situation would be: you go your way and i go my way ( à la secession....or even restructuring as an alternative) and then we both wouldn't have to put up with each other, wouldn't you say? ![]() The fact it appears to you that we're obsessed with you leader Tinubu is just down to the stranglehold he has over Lagos politics....a state that belongs to ALL Nigerians and which our commonwealth was used to develop! You can't expect Ndigbo not to mention Tinubu given the antics he got up to in Lagos during the last general elections in 2019! It's common knowledge, and was even admitted on national TV last week (in the height of the Amutekum saga ) by the leader of Miyetti-Allah that Tinubu sent out his thugs to go and disrupt voting in Igbo dominated areas! Also, Tinubu helped to prop up the disaster in Aso Rock which is today not just affecting Ndigbo negatively, bt all Nigerians in general....including the Yoruba! So pray, tell me how you expect Ndigbo not to have strong opinions on such a individual?Cheers mate! ![]() |
[quote author=FrLukas post=86100013][/quote]I think at this point we need to go back to your original ill-adviced post as you're now starting to get evasive here! You initially raised points which i addressed, and you're now either outrightly denying them or trying to skirt around the main issues raised in an evasive manner! This was your initial post: And what are you dominating in present day Nigeria now?Now in you last post you replied: You said I asked "mockingly". That is the tone you chose to read it with. I should hardly be blamed for your state of mind.No dude, your question was borne out of rank stupidity! This was the particular point i made: And so what if Zik had the confidence in his ethnic groups ability to 'dominate' Africa through merit and taking advantage of business/economic opportunities? Igbos are a blessed people! Notice how the Sadauna was complaining about Igbos running things in the north...Now just how the fuc/k do you misconstrue the above quote which talks of 'the ability to dominate through merit and taking advantage of business/economic opportunities' to mean me saying 'apart from politics, Igbos dominate in other aspects of the Nigerian life' as you say? Could it be you lack comprehension skills and are just good at posting empty diatribes full of sound and fury but signifying nothing? You made mention of me wanting to blame the Yoruba for the Hausa/Fulani dominating the 'Nigerian space', and went on to say the Igbos have been in bed longest with them! Yes, of the two ethnicities in question, the Yoruba have emboldened, supported and encouraged the rampaging, bigoted and bloodthirsty Hausa/Fulani Oligarchs the most....but this is not to say the Igbo haven't done so as well! There's enough blame to go round, and unlike you, i'm not one to absolve my own ethnicity of all blame as if we're all infallible! The first 'getting in to bed' you talk of was in the first republic. Now, i can understand where Zik was coming from.....Awo engineered the cross-carpeting event in the western house of assembly by whipping up the ethnic, bigoted and tribalistic sentiments of the Yoruba members of the assembly at the time, and succeeded in bestowing on himself the singular dubious honour of being the one to introduce tribalism into Nigerian partisan-politics! These were members....adults, that made an informed choice and voted for Zik of their own free will, and then along comes Awo who persuades them to cross-carpet and come ovber to his side because Zik was not Yoruba! Like i always say, Zik was an idealist who felt Nigeria was ripe or interested in that kind of politics where ethnicity and religion would play an ever-diminishing role in partisan-politics. I personally wouldn't have been so idealistic given the realities on ground at the time, but i cut Zik some slack given the circumstances of his birth, upbringing/schooling and political tutelage in the west! Now, with the Hausa/Fulani, one thing i can't take away from them is, with them 'what you see is what you get'......they usually let you know from the get-go what they think about you and leave little room for doubt! On the whole, i'd sooner trust a Hausa/Fulani in any business or political situation than i would a Yoruba! So i can see why Zik made the choice he did! Now concerning the second Igbo politician you made mention of....Ekwueme. You say he's another example of Igbo 'hopping into political bed' with the Hausa/Fulani. You're not looking at the bigger picture and are only picking bits of it to help with the narrative you're trying to sell! You forget that 1979 was just 9 years after the uncivil war.... a war in which Igbos/Biafrans said they wanted out of the Nigerian experiment because their lives and properties could no longer be protected and guaranteed by the Nigerian state! Nigeria (ie....Yoruba, Hausa/Fulani, etc) begged to differ and went on to execute one of the bloodiest, savage and pogrom-riddled wars the 20th century had ever known! They managed to get Igbos/Biafrans back in to Nigeria against their will! We now had a 'one Nigeria' whose political-economy was controlled by the Hausa/Fulani...no thanks to the help the got from other ethnic groups LIKE THE YORUBA! Now given aforementioned, FrLukas now wants to posit that the Igbo should not have played any prominent role in the 1979 return to democracy....even when offered! You now see how dumb and hollow your argument sounds when situated within the bigger picture? You then made mention of us abandoning our agitation for Biafra to 'hop in to bed with Atiku'! For starters, what makes you think Ndigbo 'abandoned our quest for secession'? Did you conduct a poll to ascertain majority of Ndigbo preferred voting for Atiku to secession? Now do you think Ndigbo were given the luxury by the Nigerian state of choosing between participating in the 2015 elections or referendum/secession? Because that's what your argument suggests! Also, were you not aware of Mazi Kanu advicing Igbos/Biafrans not to vote in the 2015 elections? Part of his argument was that the entire process was rigged ab-initio and that going out to vote (that's those of us that actually managed to get the ever elusive PVC) was an excercise in futility! He was later proved right! Now i've given reasons/explanations why -on the three occassions you mentiuoned- Ndigbo 'went to political bed' with the Hausa/Fulani. Can you tell me why the Yoruba -or more specifically, Awo- went to bed with the Hausa/Fulani in the run-up to and during the civil war; in the immediate aftermath of said war; and in 2015? Awo, who said Nigeria was nothing but a 'mere geographical expression' had a window of opportunity in 1967 to either extricate his people from said 'mere geographical expression', or at the very least, dictate the terms of the 'new/workable Nigeria' he wanted to see! But what did he do? He only went and joined the very people interested in sustaining the status-quo, that's what he did! Does that make sense? Cynics would say he probably cut a deal with the Fulani Oligarchs for him to be supported to be Head of State after the war, because it doesn't make sense that a man as intelligent as Awo would help to support the very thing he railed against when he had the opportunity to change things! We see a replay of things today with Tinubu and the north! The south had the opportunity in 2015 to put the core-muslim-north in their place and make it clear to them that we're all equal stakeholders in the Nigerian experiment, but for reasons best know to the leading Yoruba leaders of thought at the time (Tinubu and his lot), they felt it was better to hand Nigeria back to the Fulani....and so we now find ourselves where we are today! Can any Yoruba (not from the Tinubu/APC bandwagon) hand-on-heart say the generality of their people are happier and faring better today than they did during the GEJ/PDP years? Yes, you're getting a Lagos-Ibadan rail line and a few other things, but ultimately, it's human beings that will use these things and you have to be alive, healthy (body and mind) and actively enegaged (school or employment) to be able to use any gov't provided infrastructure! In any case, i believe if GEJ had one a second tenure he would have faced to south more than he did in his first tenure when he was distracted by the norths antics and was trying to ingratiate himself with them for their support in 2015. However, Tinubu and his gang saw things differently, and the rest as they say in history! I think I have answered part of this up there in the first part.Hehehehehe ![]() You're now moving the goalposts and saying that the OBJ Igbos voted for...his paternity is in doubt! I suppose you're implying that because of this, the support Igbos gave the Yoruba on this occassion doesn't count! ![]() Blaming Igbos for your woes instead of the Hausa/Fulani that annulled what was adjudged to be the freest and fairest elections Nigeria has ever witnessed (june 12 1993 elections) is nothing more than diversionary....giving a dog a bad name in order to hang it..... and akin to blaming an onlooker when you've just been beaten silly by a bully in a fight! The first time Yoruba would be aligning with the centre was the wrong time (as we can now confirm with the benefit of hindsight)! It was done out of crass stupidity, greed and an attempt to get one over on the Igbos who you saw as having a strong voice in the GEJ admin! Your obsession with wanting to hold Ndigbo down and not wanting them to be among the power-brokers is what led to your blind support for a confirmed bigot, despot and coup-plotter! Now that the Fulani you supported in order to 'align with the centre' have taken over everything.....are dealing with all of us in the south....and are giving free reign to foreign terrorists, bandits and kidnappers to operate all over the south, we can now see where your 'sophistication' has led us! I strongly believe that had GEJ won the 2015 elections, that Fasorantis' daughter would still be alive today! This is what happens when a people are too smart for their own good! Of course i don't exempt some greedy, efulefu Igbo elite from the tragedy that is the Buhari admin'! Their case is even worse as they're actively supporting a evil despot that doesn't value the lives of their youth...a despot that feels they're not good enough to be trusted with cerstain psoitions in gov't and the military...a despot that derisively terms them 5 percenters! I didn't imply anything. It is a statement of fact.Your above quote is disingenuous at best! For you to sit there and posit that the economic traction and prominence Lagos has today (which in turn is spilling into Ogun state due to land constraints and Lagos' high cost of living and doing business) has nothing to do with the Nigerian political-economy in place from the late 60s to date....thereby infering that it's all thanks to the ingenuity and business acumen of the Yoruba, says all that needs to be said about your two-faced, deceitful and hypocritical nature! Besides not giving recognition to said political-economy, you also overlook the contributions of other ethnicities (Igbo, Hausa/Fulani, Ijaw, Uhrobo, Itsekiri, Akwa-Cross, Edo, etc) that made Lagos (and by extension, Ogun state) what it is today! Way to go mate! PART 1 |
Try voodoo economics! ![]() |
googi:Probably a kamikaze pilot! |
olaboy33:Keep on burying you head in the sand in denial! Almost on a weekly basis we read or hear on the news of Nigerians (esp’ in the middlebelt) being hacked to death on an industrial scale! That 3rd position sounds about just right! And if care is not taken we will carry 1st by this time next year! |
BuhariAdvocate:You’re joking right!? |
inforesource:Hehehehe ![]() |
Racoon:This is exactly why they don’t dare have a retrial or agree to re-examine their judgement! They’d be exposed for the conniving frauds they are! |
alfasexy:Like quaker oats! |
[quote author=FrLukas post=86092132][/quote]You ask mockingly what Igbos are dominating in Nigeria today? Well, given the present status-quo and political-economy, certainly not central government! We can safely say that's dominated by the Fulani, and see where Nigeria is today in all developmental indices compared to where we were in the early 60s right up to 1966! The Fulani (not even a mjority ethnic group or indigenous to Nigeria) are today dominating the Nigerian political-economy, yet you go to bed and sleep well, but seem to have a problem if Igbos were to do same....why is that? Another question is: how did these Fulani come about dominating you.....is it through merit or force? Zik, who i admit was a idealist to a fault, was talking of dominating based on merit.....you're free to believe or disbelieve, that's up to you! The argument of whether those VCs (b'cos i know that's what you're driving at) were appointed based on merit or based on Ziks influence can go both ways and has been argued a lot in the past.....but suffice it to say that a continental/global comparison of the universities ranking, when you say Igbos forcefully dominated things, vis-a-vis their ranking today would reveal just how badly things have degenerated....all because you now prefer the Fulani dominating things over your perceived 'Igbo domination' in the early 60s! You know there was a time the Saudi royal family came to University Collage Hospital, Ibadan for treatment? You imply other tribes are not rushing to 'our 5 south-east states' because we're not the most developed in Nigeria! You sound so small-minded and juvenile! Can you then tell me the 'most developed part of Nigeria' other tribes are rushing to? And if there's such a 'most developed part', are other tribes rushing there solely because of the efforts, input and ingenuity of the indigenous ethnicity of said region....or is it a case of the Nigerian political-economy in place from 1967 to date that's given them this advantage over other regions? We have a situation where 'our 5 south-east states' have been denied a int'l airport for decades since the end of the uncivil war; the area formerly known as the Eastern Region has been denied any thriving seaport while Lagos has been given preferential status for decades (and you stupidly brag about where other tribes are rushing to and where they are not); hydrocarbons in 'our 5 south-east states' (ie, the ones that were left for us and not wickedly carved into Rivers state) have been largely ignored or treated as 'strategic national reserves', while the federal gov't spends billions of dollars prospecting for oyel and gas in the north; you have connived and contrived to deny Igbos the presidency at any given opportunity either through coups or scheming within the dominant political party of the time; you have stood at the door to welcome all billion dollar FDIs coming to Nigeria and promptly directed them to your own region to the exclusion of 'our 5 south-east states' to give yourselves even more economic traction and advantage over Igbos....you then turn around to brag in my face that the economy of your region is solely of your making; etc-etc-etc! So you're saying the south-east has the highest cut-off marks in JAMB admission because Igbos cheat in exams? You mean Igbos have been cheating in exams since the early 70s this policy has been in place? I suppose Igbos should learn from say your own ethnic group who don't cheat and are made up of 'sweet, innocent angels' with halos hovering over their cherubic heads? ![]() You 'one Nigerianists' always find it so convenient to blame Zik for 'not inserting a secession clause in the constitution'! This is your get-out-of-jail-card you deploy to deflect blame and heap it all on Ndigbo! So Zik, who i presume had just one vote, was able to arm-twist the Awo and the Sadauna not to include said clause in the constitution abi? Igbos last held power at the centre with Ironsi....since then it's been passed between the north and the south-west! Now why haven't you been able to insert the secession clause back into the constitution all this while? Could it be that your two-faced, hypocritical ass likes things the way they are and can't fathom any meaningful existence without 'one Nigeria'? Igbos have been murdered in cold blood for calling for a referendum on secession....we haven't heard kpim from your end! And you wanna sit there....act all innocent and holy, and tell me you lot are agonising over Zik 'refusing to insert a secession clause in the constitution'? Gimme a break mate! I find it funny how you seem to get so excited over the issue of 'our 5 south-east states' being landlocked! Does this make you sleep well at night...b'cos you're always banging on about it? Igbos/Biafrans have said landlocked or no landlocked, let's have that referendum, yet you that is not landlocked breaks out in a cold sweat and sends truckloads of python dancers down to the south-east to go shoot up some agitators! What does that say about your self-confidence as against that of Ndigbo/Biafrans? In any case, Rwanda, Ethiopia and Botswana are landlocked countries, yet they beat your sealocked 'one Nigeria' in all developmental indices, so what are we saying? |
Magicians:See this one justifying war crimes just because the victims were the Igbos he despises so much! Utterly vile excuse for a human being! Nobody asked you to feed anyone! If you can't defeat your enemy on the battle field, fighting man-to-man, then just throw in the towel! Your dumb argument flies in the face of your claim of military superiority over the Biafrans! |
bakynes3:And so what if Zik had the confidence in his ethnic groups ability to 'dominate' Africa through merit and taking advantage of business/economic opportunities? Igbos are a blessed people! Notice how the Sadauna was complaining about Igbos running things in the north...notice how Igbo states have the highest cut-off marks for JAMB....notice how all Nigerians are in agreement that if you go to any place and don't see Igbos there, you had better turn around and run as such a place would not be conducive for living.....i could go on and on! Even in Nigeria, see how certain sections of the country lose sleep over the mere suggestion of referendum on secession or the suggestion of secession itself! They can't imagine surviving without us! You're probably one of them! |
pennywys:Ever heard of the danger inherent in a single story? |
bekpo:Hehehehe ![]() The best form of ‘defence’ is attack.....helps to divert attention away from the daylight robbery that is the APC/supreme-court judicial heist! ![]() |
Ebonyi needs to take landscaping as seriously as it does construction! Nice job though! |
And his nose just got 12 inches longer! ![]() |
BlackfireX:See frustration! |
itsme01:You really are a pathetic individual! It’s so convenient for you to pin the blame of Nigeria being stuck in a rut on Azikiwe...someone that never held executive power, and who exited gov’t more than 50 years ago! |
NGpatriot:You should have just posted your pics and left it at that! A million evil Buharis’ can never equate to one GEJ! Buhari is cursed, and his curse is now affecting Nigeria at all levels! |
gidgiddy:It’s just self-centred Igbo politicians that are the ones salivating over ‘Igbo presidency’! If they’re serious and have the best interests of Ndigbo in particular and Nigeria in general, then they should either be calling for TOTAL and COMPREHENSIVE restructuring! And if that’s not possible, then dissolution.....let’s all go answer our papa name individually! |
SoNature:The thing i noticed with GEJ was that he was threading carefully so as not ‘offend’ the sensibilities of the Yoruba and Fulani! All this was because of 2015 elections! We now know with the benefit of hindsight that he was flogging a dead horse! |
Positivepoint:Shut up! Any sort of link between the so called south-south and south-east makes you break out in a sweat! Why is that? Someone is talking of Onne being a better option for Igbo importers and you’re already showing your insecurities by asking dumb questions! |
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, it's like in this country we clean up things in the media only, stop the lies please,