₦airaland Forum

dearpreye:
These are about the most interesting political times in our history as a country. This is probably the best period to be alive in Nigeria. But these are also trying times. According to Tom Paine, these are times that try the souls of men.



I'm not a secessionist. I love all Nigerians. I have NO issues with any particular people or tribe. But I love equity and justice more than I love even my own life. I just want a better nation; one founded on the tenets of equity, justice and fairness. And if the current situation doesn't favour these tenets, its time to look at another viable, peaceful, option. I have just one life, and it must be meaningful.

I'm not willing to handover to my kids a system in which they have no hope. I do not hope to bring them into frustration and injustice.

And to all Igbos here, you shall henceforth have my deepest respect and honour for being a BIG BROTHER. And if I have done anything to anyone of you, knowingly and unknowingly, this message is my plea for forgiveness, brotherhood, and peace. You deserve my deepest respect.

Let this message be the blood that is sacrificed for our unity, peace and oneness. God bless you ALL!

Dearpreye.

superstar1:
The concept of self determination that he elucidated in the write up was effectively negated by the part of the write up that says State must protect their territorial integrity and sovereignty.

Joel3:
how I just can't wait for Jonathan to go back to where ever he came from. i am tired of bad news every part of the country.

29 fast approaching.

eneidoko:
What a smoke-dream! Drean on!!

It appears you are ignorant of the constitutional provisions regarding land ownership in Nigeria. If you do, you wont lay any claim to land resources in Nigeria except FG.

As for joining biafra, you will play second fiddle worse than under Nigeria. As breaking away is impossible, the easiest way to achieve your goal is to vacate SS and SE and migrate to Fernanda Po to form your new biafra.

seankay:
Let us unite and make NIGERIA a great country

OgagaMic:
Hey bros abeg nor vex, u can take Delta North We Datch una, Bt if u dare involve d whole south south I swear I go personally join army, kill una, una dey NAD ni ?, we say we nor want, na force ?, any SS tat speaks his mind una go dey abuse am, re u guys mad,

Go form ur Biafra bt no Involve us Simple


parasites

coputa:
Anioma.Etche and Ikwere are not igbo,dare and call them igbo and wait for the acidic rebuttal,why not mention igbos in Benue state and other states,why only Delta and Rivers state alone.Call Amaechi and Nyesom wike,igbo,they will slap the Biafra spirit out of you.One cretin said,Amaechi is an igbo name.There is great awareness in the country now,nobody can be deceived any longer.

madamoringo:
Now you are dreaming or being extremely stoopid! Every last Ibo will be ejected in every last corner of Nigeria back to Iboland! How can you go and vote yes in a referendum (if it happens) but still want to return to the country you don't want to be in? Ibo logic is upside down cursed logic! We will set up embassies and you can go and apply for visa and their will NEVER be dual citizenship with Nigeria or at least with the country that comes out of The South West, we would never have ingrates, greedy and saboteurs among us whose only goal is to cry since 1966!

itsoscar:
South south can never be part of Biafra....so u pipo should know ur boundaries. IMO,Enugu,anambra, abia n ebonyi.....mind u any act of including ss in ur greedy struggle will lead to war so u. pipo should go n make do with ur 5 states. As for me I'm just waiting for it to be announced so that i will locate any clean mansion that belongs to any ibo man close to me n inherit....God bless 9ja.

shadrach77:
Even Nigerians would not support this guy. The Labour Party ought to know better than making him their leader if they hope to regain political power in England. He comes across as an intelligent guy, but a racist society like Britain will never take to him. In other words, he is bad news for all Labour lovers

omooba969:
Another clueless noise maker blaming Lord Lugard for their mess. SMH

dudkko:
Ok let wait and see. When u people do not have good leadership skills other than greed and greediness (permit me to say that). No wonder Five igbo senate presidents within the space of eight years. HABA.

omooba969:
And wot wud be d reasons for secession if I may ask pls?

klax:
Another Red Flag from Ohanaeze. Biko bros do you realised the more you talk about breaking the more the east are pushed aside in the real game.

This break up of a thing I don't see it happening dear brothers are you ready to face another 1966 horror again Will this breaking not lead to a brutal bloodshed again Think well Mr Ohanaeze chief moreso Mr chief are you sure you are honest to really face the music if it happen I won't say more than that but I knew the outcome if attempted will be brutal because East can't stand alone to fight this and win I really doubt ir seriously pls kindly let sleeping dog lay quietly so we won't start another blame rant on other tribe for our failure. God bless No offense.

oladapolif:
Its left for you to have a sensible mind about this man Ojukwu and what really triggered the Nigeria Civil War, that have wasted many igbos lives by putting them on a line. I am Yoruba and today, I decided to re-read about this Biafra war and why the Nigeria government did not want igbos to leave, because I am tired of Igbo cries and I want Nigeria to break up as well. I went on Wikipedia and to what I can gather about the causes of the war, was that Ojukwu doesnot like the Northerners in Power and he wants the igbos to be charge, due to the natural resource "Oil" is in the Eastern Region. The igbos were collecting Royalties from the Oil production even before the war. Most countries that supported Nigeria Govt. during war, was because of their Nations' interest. Uk was supporting Nigeria Govt cos of their Shell Company, USA was partially supporting Nigeria Govt cos of their Investments in Nigeria, Isreal was supporting Biafra cos of their nations Interest as well. Take a good look at these nations supporting each party, Do you think they give a fkkk about Africans, if they have nothing to gain from us?.( tell me about other Africa civil war and what Europe country give a fkkk, if they have nothing to offer to the Europeans?) Biafra claim they lost due to Starvation, will you feed your opponent when you are fighting, but Biafra refuse to acknowledge the fact that they went to war with less ammunition. Biafra have continue to blame Awolowo for their failure and forget the power of propaganda. We should be more focus on Ojukwu, who rushed the Biafra youths to war without better plan, We should also remember Johnson Aguiyi-Ironsi, who is power hungry as Ojukwu and he also betrayed his fellow Biafrians, We should talk about how Ojukwu released Banjo to fight his own people. To me, I believe Ojukwu should have been held accountable when he was alive for leading Biafria to war when they are not fully ready, I believe the causes of the war should be more focused on and if Biafra want to create their nation, they should do it in a diplomatic way. I am not been biased in anyway, just according to what I could gather online about the causes of the civil war.

PassingShot:
This is very interesting but a question that I have not gotten any satisfactory answer for till today is, why was Ojukwu rejected by the Igbos when he ran for presidency in 1999? Not that he lost the elction is my concern but why did he fail to win the Igbo votes?

. There are so much convoluted,diluted and distorted stories about Ojukwu out there. Many people don't know anything about the man except that he led the short lived breakaway republic of Biafra and that later he fled into exile at the end of the war. Love him or hate him, Ojukwu is an indelible part of our history.

Languages:- Ojukwu is one of the few people who could speak the three main languages of Hausa,Igbo and Yoruba fluently. Ojukwu was born in the north to Igbo parents but grew up in Lagos as a young boy. Ojukwu would later work in East as a district officer, in the north as commander of Kano Garrison and in Lagos as Quarter- master general.In all, Ojukwu was fluent in 5 languages, Igbo-Hausa-Yoruba-English-French.

Affluence:- Ojukwus father, Sir Louis Ojukwu was one of the richest men in Africa. Ojukwus father made his money by taking advantage of the post world war 2 economic boom to make shrewd investments. His Business empire spanned shipping,banking,import and export,manufacturing,transportation and properties. He sat as chairman of John Holt west Africa, African continental Bank,Nigerian stock exchange and Ojukwu transport company. Ojukwu transport company was one of the major reasons Igbos fanned out across Nigeria using it to travel outside Igbo land and some of Ojukwus earliest drivers were the late chief Ilodibe (Ekene dili Chukwu) and Izuchukwu (Izuchukwu Trans) who all later became transport magnets themselves. It is estimated that in today's money, Ojukwus father would have been worth about 10 Billion American Dollars. People who say that Ojukwu declared Biafra to enrich himself make me laugh

Humbleness:- Despite Ojukwus fathers wealth, despite Ojukwus first class education at Epson college,Surrey and Oxford University. Ojukwu shunned his fathers wealth, rejected the plush position his father offered him in his organisation and joined the civil service as an assistant district officer when he returned from England in 1955. This enraged Ojukwus father who felt his son deserved better and when he tried to remove his son as a civil servant, Ojukwu did worse by joining the army as a common recruit! How many of us would have done such a thing if we had rich fathers?Imagine Dangotes son joining the Army as a private. After this,Ojukwus father wouldn't talk to him for a long time.

Army:- Ojukwu was the first graduate to join the Nigerian army. He was also the first indigenous Qaurter-Master General of the Nigerian army. Ojukwu would later serve as an instructor at NMTC Kaduna where he taught future military leaders like Murtala Mohammed,Obasunjo and Ike Nwachukwu military tactics.

Seniority with Gowon :- It has often been a subject of debate about who is senior between Gowon and Ojukwu. Gowon stated recently while celebrating his 80th Birthday that he was commissioned as an officer in 1956 while Ojukwu was commissioned in 1957 making him Ojukwus senior in the army. This is true,however it should be noted that an Army officer is still a civil servant. Ojukwu joined the civil service as a graduate in 1955. When Ojukwu joined the Army and was subsequently commissioned 1957 after undergoing officers training abroad,the government backdated his commission date to 1955 to reflect the year he joined the civil service and that is how Ojukwu gained seniority over Gowon. The government just saw his joining the military as transferring from one Government department to another. To this day, the Government still recognises Ojukwu as senior to Gowon while the Army might recognise Gowon as senior to Ojukwu.

One Nigeria:- Believe it or not, Ojukwu used to be a staunch believer of one Nigeria. "When we were British subjects,we saw our selves as one but as soon as Britain granted us independence and left, everything unravelled fast,everybody suddenly remembered that they were Hausa,Yoruba,Igbo etc. We could never see our selves as Nigerians and it became increasingly clear to the discerning mind the one Nigeria was a mirage"

Beard:- Ojukwu started growing his trademark beard the day he was appointed Military Goveror of Eastern Nigeria. Before then, Ojukwu was always clean shaven.

Secession:- Contrary to popular opinion, Ojukwu did not get up one day and declare Biafra, neither did he start the war. The counter-coup of July 1966 of which the president-Elect Buhari was a ring leader saw the massacre of mostly easterners all over Nigeria. An estimated 30,000 men,women and children were butchered in wave after wave of remorseless violence. There are two things Ojukwu did to show he still believed in Nigeria. After the first wave of killings,Ojukwu asked many of those who fled home to the east to return to the north and even encouraged those who were planning to return to stay put. Ojukwu even escorted the returnees to the border between the north and eastern region as they went back,sadly many of them were killed in the next wave of violence. The second thing Ojukwu did was that even though he was besieged by his people who asked him to pull the Eastern region out of Nigeria, Ojukwu resisted and went to Aburi,Ghana to negotiate with Gowon on how to keep Nigeria one. Ojukwu and Gowon reached an agreement called the Aburi accord which both men signed in front the president of Ghana. Sadly,Gowon returned to Ghana and repudiated the agreement and to make matters worse, Gowon went ahead to create States without the permission of any body. With the the failure of Gowon to stop the killings, his abandonment of the Aburi agreement, the eastern Nigerian consultative assembly (a body which comprised of traditional rulers and district heads that adviced Ojukwu on how the east should be run) gave Ojukwu the mandate make Eastern Nigeria self Governing. Ojukwu the declared Biafra. Even then,Gowon could have returned to negotiation table.Instead,what he did was to rally troops and attacked,starting the war. If anybody caused the war, it was Gowon.

The war:- It should be noted that Ojukwu went on numerous peace missions during the war to end the crisis but to no avail. What type of Warmonger does this? Despite being outgunned and out manned,Biafra fought gallantly almost 3 years

End of the war and exile :-Contrary to what some people say on Nairaland, Ojukwu did not dress up as a woman to leave Biafra. He also did not abandon his people in the middle of the war to save his skin. I urge people to read the following books to get the true idea of how the war ended and how Ojukwu left Biafra. 'The struggle for secession' by NU Akpan and 'Nigeria and Biafra: My story' by General Effiong ( in Biafra,the 2 most high ranking officials after Ojukwu were both from the south-South. Effiong was deputy and Akpan was secretary to the Biafran Government) Ojukwu was adviced by his commanders after the fall of Owerri that the war had become hopeless. Ojukwu convened a meeting of his Government where it was decided that Ojukwu and top members of his Government and their families would fly out of Biafra. Ojukwu would hand over to his deputy General Effiong. Ojukwu later went to Uli airport with the contingent that was to travel with him. Ojukwu even inspected a guard of honour. NU Akpan what was on the flight stated that Ojukwu was the last one to enter the plane. Two days later, Biafra collapsed and Effiong surrendered to Obasunjo. Some people call Ojukwu a coward for leaving at all but ask the same people what would have been the point Ojukwu staying back to be slaughtered when the war had virtually ended and had been lost? People become martyrs for a cause that is still alive, not a cause that is dead. Ojukwu spent his entire fortune financing the war and flew into exile virtually a penniless man. He would later raise a loan start business and by the time he returned from exile 12 years later, had become a successful international business man. Ojukwu often said that he did what did to protect his people and he had no regrets. Former minister of Health, Professor ABC Nwosu once said that if Ojukwu had not declared Biafra,he would have killed by his people because only a deranged human being can be shouting one Nigeria as 40,000 of his brethren are being kille

aresa:
There's more to self determination than designing silly flags and anthems.

Apart from begging and running from one organization to the next, what plans and strategies do you have in place>

Do you have any state sponsored or any organized regional institution strategizing and planning for your imaginary self determination socially and economically? No

Are all your local and National leaders on board with Biafra? No

Where are your socio political and economic agenda? You don't have any.

Do you have any meaningful economic and industrial base to sustain your dream? None

You manpower willing and committed to stay and help develop the homeland? No

What was achieved by the EAST during the regional administration era when each region determined it's own destiny? Nothing...


Shouting self determination is one thing, but reality is another....


Worry less about the SW because SW is the most ready region in Nigeria socially, culturally, politically and economically.

When we determined our own future, in less than 5 years, we achieved many firsts in Nigeria, West Africa and in Africa. 1st TV station, first modern stadium built in Africa., 1st skyscraper, OAU university, O’dua Group and so on.

SW is Africa's 2nd economic and industrial base and this was made possible by the SW regional government by creating all the industrial estates still responsible for Nigeria's industrial output (Ikeja, Matori, Apapa, Mushin, Ilupeju industrial estates) and now supported by Ogun state.. Ogun state alone has more factories and industries than the entire SE/SS combined.

SW is Africa's Media and Entertainment base. Media and Entertainment money is in the SW.

Oil is in the SW and we don't even need oil to thrive

Unlike your erosion ravaged land, the SW has more than enough land resources to farm and mine for precious materials..



Can you show me any forum organized by your leaders or governors championing biafra strategizing and setting up economic, political and social agenda like they have in the SW aka Development Agenda for Western Nigeria (DAWN). The roadmap for the SW is there. ...but do you have nothing similar in iboland to show us? No, you can not show me anything...





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^^^^^^^Future leaders already at work for their future modernland..

Can you show us anything similar in Biafra or iboland, no you can not...


There's more so self determination than beating chest and running all over the place3 begging organizations for attention...

CaptainJune:
If Biafra splits tomorrow (and it will) what will be the fate of the leftover called Nigeria if not to follow suit. I don't see the West uniting with the North and ditto for the North. My advice is the Yorubas should begin now to design their flag and national anthemn in readiness for the inevitable D-Day Biafrans will cease to be Nigerians otherwise they will forever be the footstool of the North politically and economically which towers over them in size and strength and clout.

I see tough days ahead for this territory called Nigeria should Biafra go her way. This marriage of incompatible tribes was never meant to be.

tbae:
It makes me scared most times when I come online and read comments people write against each other. The funny thing is, in my immediate environment, these two tribes move on well but online, am amazed at the hate. I sometimes wonder how we can hate each other so much and still shout 'racism' and 'xenophobia' to other countries doing the same to us. During the whole xenophobia saga, I read a post here on nairaland where someone said they should keep killing the igbos in South Africa. This blew my mind and am like 'people like thie exist?'. Please even though we can't love each other, let's tolerate and train our children to be better than we are. #oneNigeria

cap28:
I am Igbo so this has nothing to do with tribalism or jealousy, I am simply stating the truth, I live in the UK and I know how whites who make up 90% of the population think of black people, Umunna may be half white but in their eyes he is not a son of the soil and therefore will never be accepted by them as a leader. Obama was successful in the US because blacks and Hispanics overwhelmingly voted for him and they constitute a sizeable proportion of the US population, UK blacks (who are likely to vote for Umunna in overwhelming numbers) only make up about 3% of the british population so black people in the UK are insignificant as far as politics is concerned here in the UK.

The british labour party are now so desperate to get back into office that they are now clutching at straws, it doesn't matter how much they compare Umunna to Obama it is not going to convince staunch white English racists to vote in a half black british man as their future PM.

wadetaw202:
Igbos are very unserious lot. They want to separate from Nigeria, yet they don't want to reave ragos. Bunch of confused souls

barcanista:
Buhari can't be blind to see the pictures of the Almajiri underaged voters that returned him to power.

PapiWata:
The Boko Haram terror gang is merely the armed wing of northern Nigeria's Born-to-Rule network, whose abiding duty is to ensure that anarchy reigns whenever a NON-northern president is voted into office. The agenda of making Nigeria "ungovernable" during the regime of Jonathan Goodluck has been implemented with great success, with the result that Jonathan Goodluck has been sent packing from office.

Now that Buhari, the point-man of the Born-to-Rule folks, has been rigged into power as president, using "creative accounting" of Nigeria's voting population figures, the contract assigned to the Boko Haram terror gang has been fulfilled and completed, ensuring once again that those all-important oil drilling leases are renewed ONLY for select members of the northern Nigerian crude oil mafia in 2016, when the leases for the old drilling rights are due to expire.

With the oil fields again under exclusively norther Nigerian control, generous allocations of petroleum export income will be allocated to the leadership of the Boko Haram terror gang, thus essentially keeping them on a permanent "retainer", where their foot soldiers can be re-armed and called into action the instant any southern Nigerian president is again voted into office.

Simultaneously, the justified compenasation paid by the Johathan Goodluck administration to the Niger Delta communities will be stopped the instant Buhari commences his RULE, since the Niger Delta inhabitants will be expected to assume the role of docile conquered and colonized economic slaves, whose interests must take back seat to those of the Boko Haram terror gang so loved by the northern Nigerian crude oil diverting cartel.

This is in essence the "Change" promised to Nigeria. Love it or leave it, y'all.