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Re: APC: Fashola, Oshiomhole, Okorocha Tipped As VP Nominees by Nobody: 11:14pm On Mar 11, 2013
Talking about fashola just as so many people love him,he is also very much hated.For one the huge no of non-indigenes here in lagos would not vote for him.he has done a lot to upset the lower income earners and this would really hit back @ him.Besides so many xtians including yoruba xtians would frown @ a muslim-muslim ticket
Re: APC: Fashola, Oshiomhole, Okorocha Tipped As VP Nominees by Nobody: 11:17pm On Mar 11, 2013
chukwudi44: Talking about fashola just as so many people love him,he is also very much hated.For one the huge no of non-indigenes here in lagos would not vote for him.he has done a lot to upset the lower income earners and this would really hit back @ him.Besides so many xtians including yoruba xtians would frown @ a muslim-muslim ticket

Yoruba's don't generally vote along religious lines. Recall that in 1993, the SW voted massively for the MKO/Kingibe ticket. Both men were Muslims.

Your concern is valid though for SS and SE people.
Re: APC: Fashola, Oshiomhole, Okorocha Tipped As VP Nominees by Nobody: 11:22pm On Mar 11, 2013
CFCfan:

Yoruba's don't generally vote along religious lines. Recall that in 1993, the SW voted massively for the MKO/Kingibe ticket. Both men were Muslims.

Your concern is valid though for SS and SE people.

We didn't have boko haram and sharia in 1993.Even mko won in the SE/SS ststes in 1993.
Re: APC: Fashola, Oshiomhole, Okorocha Tipped As VP Nominees by dayokanu(m): 11:23pm On Mar 11, 2013
chukwudi44:

Buhari got 25% in this MB states during the last elections and still lost the elections.It is not about getting just 25% of the votes like I said but rather simple majority. During the last elections GEJ got 22.4m votes while Buhari got 12 m votes.out of GEJ's 22m votes 2.4m votes came from the SW.even if we had a 100% improvement in the SW and they all vote for buhari while others vote as before GEJ would still win.This myth of SW swing votes would be rubbished during the next elections.They only contributed just 10% of GEJ votes during the last elections

You want to know the voting power of the SouthWest when they really care check the 1999 figures for Olu Falae

http://www.electoralgeography.com/new/en/countries/n/nigeria/nigeria-presidential-election-1999.html

GEJ got 2.4 m votes from SW in 2011 I am assuring you with Buhari-Fashola vs GEJ It would be 80% figures for APC.

In 1999, Falae got over 4m votes from the SW alone despite contesting against a fellow SWesterner. thats 14yrs ago, Population has increased, People are now more politically conscious. I see no how Fashola ticket wont cop an excess of 6-8m votes

The 6 SW states have voting population thats very high
Re: APC: Fashola, Oshiomhole, Okorocha Tipped As VP Nominees by dayokanu(m): 11:24pm On Mar 11, 2013
chukwudi44:

We didn't have boko haram and sharia in 1993.Even mko won in the SE/SS ststes in 1993.

Pre 1993 we already had several religious riots in the North.

In 1993 MKO lost in most of SE states. He lost 3 out of 4 states
Re: APC: Fashola, Oshiomhole, Okorocha Tipped As VP Nominees by dayokanu(m): 11:26pm On Mar 11, 2013
chukwudi44: Talking about fashola just as so many people love him,he is also very much hated.For one the huge no of non-indigenes here in lagos would not vote for him.he has done a lot to upset the lower income earners and this would really hit back @ him.Besides so many xtians including yoruba xtians would frown @ a muslim-muslim ticket

Have you checked the numbers which Fashola won by in 2011?

I am almost sure he won all LGA in Lagos state. So where are these people who hate him coming from.

Another election today, Fashola would win by the same margin.

I am a SW Xtian and I dont care if we have a Moslem-Moslem ticket

in case you havent realized, the SW doesnt really care about religion because most of us have all religion in our families. Xtian , Moslem and Traditional.

f you check even people like Oyedepo, Adeboye, Ashimolowo, Olukoya and some SW Xtian leaders they would have Moslems in thir family.

A Northerner might not know any Xtian in his family, Same with SE/SS but never in the SW. Fasholas wife is a Born again Xtian even till now, Same with Tinubu
My dad a Xtian, never fails to buy Sallah ram for his aunt a Moslem till she died

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Re: APC: Fashola, Oshiomhole, Okorocha Tipped As VP Nominees by Nobody: 11:29pm On Mar 11, 2013
dayokanu:

Have you checked the numbers which Fashola won by in 2011?

I am almost sure he won all LGA in Lagos state. So where are these people who hate him coming from.

Another election today, Fashola would win by the same margin

You really make me laugh? When did he start deporting fellow citizens,banning okada,creating toll gates or closing markets? Why didn't he do that during his first term? Dayo do you live in lagos? Please let's not just get sentimental and rather face facts
Re: APC: Fashola, Oshiomhole, Okorocha Tipped As VP Nominees by dayokanu(m): 11:33pm On Mar 11, 2013
chukwudi44:

You really make me laugh? When did he start deporting fellow citizens,banning okada,creating toll gates or closing markets? Why didn't he do that during his first term? Dayo do you live in lagos? Please let's not just get sentimental and rather face facts

Closing market? When did he close down oshodi and chase people away? 2008 Way back in his first term, When did LASTMA start clamping down on people

Fashola has been deporting people since 2009 and he is still loved.
Re: APC: Fashola, Oshiomhole, Okorocha Tipped As VP Nominees by Afam4eva(m): 12:10am On Mar 12, 2013
I think Fashola is totally out of this one. Even if Nigerians don't care about a Muslim-Muslim ticket like some people will want us to believe, i don't think APC is dumb enough to present two Muslims. Except they're actually dumb enough. The fight for vice-presidential spot is probably between Oshiomole and Rochas. I don't think Oshio baba cares much about being a vice president but if i hear say Rochas join APC for nothing. He joined APC because he sees it as a chance to get closer to the presidency. If APC wants to win votes this is what they must do.

At least it's conclusive that APC are more interested in winning votes than actually putting competent people as their candidates else they would have replaced Buhari with Fashola or another performing southerner. Without Buhari, APC will just look like an ordinary party. That's the truth. The followership that Buhari has in the deep north is something else. It's so much that they killed people because he lost an election the last time. So, if he's presented as the candidate, he will win most of the North West and North east states. He will probably share the North central with Jonathan because of the large population of Christians there. Now that settles it for APC as far as votes from the North is concerned.

Now back to the vice presidential slot. The mistake that Buhari made the last time was to focus his campaigns only in the north and neglect the south. he only campaigned in one state in each regions of the south and his campaign was poor. The crowd he was able to draw was embarrassing. Now he has leaned his lesson and want to undo the mistakes he did the last time. That's why he stretched his hands of fellowship with ACN and ACN happens to be the largest party in the south. Now, ACN together with other parties in the merger will have to present a vice presidential candidate and like i said Fashola is ruled out because we can't have a Muslim-Muslim ticket. It will be redundant for ACN to field Oshiomole because Oshiomole is from the same region as the current president who they will be facing in 2015. Most of the people from the SS will still support Jonathan. The best oshiomole can get them is massive votes from his state(Edo) and that is just one state out of 6 in that region. That's not good enough. That's why i think they should look to break the other backbone of Jonathan which is the South-East by presenting a candidate from that region. That will be the tie-breaker. Present someone like Rochas and you've won the election. Rochas is very popular in the east and can give you at worst, 50% of the votes from the east and that's goo enough. Yorubas on the other hand will support ACN whether a Yoruba candidate is involved or not because they see it as their party and because their major leaders are in the party and will be at the forefront of selling the candidates to the SW. So, we have the North, SE and SW. They can't get the SS, so they should not even bother.
Re: APC: Fashola, Oshiomhole, Okorocha Tipped As VP Nominees by flexya: 1:42am On Mar 12, 2013
dayokanu:

Last election Buhari picked 13 states.

Buhari alone without incumbency and money already guarantees 13 states No single individual in Nigeria has that appeal. All he need is 6 more states

Even if Jonathan wins all the SS 6 states, SE 5 states total 11 states he cant win election and

Buhari has NW 7 states, NE 6 states thats 13 states already.

Middle Belt which states would go to Jonathan? Definitely not Niger States. And I think Buhari is very strong in states like Nasarawa, can do better in Kogi and Kwara

Assuming for the sake of argument Jonathan wins All SE, SS and 5 states in middle belt he would still Lose.

Buhari just need those 6 SW states to get to 19 states that is needed

wats all these 19 states BS. u could become president by just winnin in lagos and kano, which has the largest populations (assumin this equates to highest registered voters after next round of inec registratn). u just need highest total votes and back it up by obtainin one third of the votes cast in at least two third (19) States. abeg read our constitutn well
Re: APC: Fashola, Oshiomhole, Okorocha Tipped As VP Nominees by Nobody: 5:19am On Mar 12, 2013
flexya:

wats all these 19 states BS. u could become president by just winnin in lagos and kano, which has the largest populations (assumin this equates to highest registered voters after next round of inec registratn). u just need highest total votes and back it up by obtainin one third of the votes cast in at least two third (19) States. abeg read our constitutn well

Abeg help me tell them. I wonder where they got all this states stuff from.
Re: APC: Fashola, Oshiomhole, Okorocha Tipped As VP Nominees by dayokanu(m): 5:38am On Mar 12, 2013
flexya:

wats all these 19 states BS. u could become president by just winnin in lagos and kano, which has the largest populations (assumin this equates to highest registered voters after next round of inec registratn). u just need highest total votes and back it up by obtainin one third of the votes cast in at least two third (19) States. abeg read our constitutn well

You have seen that by States its not looking good for Jonathan. Now lets look at how the raw numbers would look.

In 2015 givn the shape of the polity all the region would be interested seeing how divided the Nation is and the winner takes all mentality.

Regardless of how you twist it, It still looks promising for the APC. the region with the highest population would probably be won by the APC.

According to Nigerian Census figures The Northwest is the most populated followed by the SW. These are the region with vested interest in the merger

E.g in the Presidents home state of Bayelsa has a population of 1.7 m While Katsina(Buharis home state) has 5.8 m, Kano Lagos,Oyo, Kaduna are the most populated states in Nigeria and at least 4 of them (Oyo, Kano, Katsina, Lagos) are for APC

The top 5 states by Populations are states that could be easily won by the alliance

You seem to underestimate the power of SW voters when they are interested in an election. In 1999 you should ask how Olu Falae got over 4m votes from the SW despite that he contested against another SWesterner

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Re: APC: Fashola, Oshiomhole, Okorocha Tipped As VP Nominees by Nobody: 5:51am On Mar 12, 2013
dayokanu:

You have seen that by States its not looking good for Jonathan. Now lets look at how the raw numbers would look.

In 2015 givn the shape of the polity all the region would be interested seeing how divided the Nation is and the winner takes all mentality.

Regardless of how you twist it, It still looks promising for the APC. the region with the highest population would probably be won by the APC.

According to Nigerian Census figures The Northwest is the most populated followed by the SW. These are the region with vested interest in the merger

E.g in the Presidents home state of Bayelsa has a population of 1.7 m While Katsina(Buharis home state) has 5.8 m, Kano Lagos,Oyo, Kaduna are the most populated states in Nigeria and at least 4 of them (Oyo, Kano, Katsina, Lagos) are for APC

The top 5 states by Populations are states that could be easily won by the alliance

You seem to underestimate the power of SW voters when they are interested in an election. In 1999 you should ask how Olu Falae got over 4m votes from the SW despite that he contested against another SWesterner

Except that what we are dealing with here are registered voters and not necessary state population.Besides you can see that buhari victory's in some of this states were very narrow like say 1.3m against GEJ's 1.1m in Kadunna.The same scenario would be obtainable in Lagos with a very huge population of SE/SS.GEJ wwas winning almost 98% of votes in the SS/SE while buhari keeps winning 50-60% don't forget we are counting majority of votes cast and not really who will win the states.
Re: APC: Fashola, Oshiomhole, Okorocha Tipped As VP Nominees by Nobody: 5:55am On Mar 12, 2013
chukwudi44:

Except that what we are dealing with here are registered voters and not necessary state population.Besides you can see that buhari victory's in some of this states were very narrow like say 1.3m against GEJ's 1.1m in Kadunna.The same scenario would be obtainable in Lagos with a very huge population of SE/SS.GEJ wwas winning almost 98% of votes in the SS/SE while buhari keeps winning 50-60% don't forget we are counting majority of votes cast and not really who will win the states.

Erm.. The constitution says both majority of votes cast and at least 25% of the votes cast in 24 states or more.

Both conditions have to be met before INEC can delcare a winner. So, if Buhari wins a slim majoity of the votes nationwide but recorded only 25% of the votes cast in only 20 states, then there will be a run-off election.
Re: APC: Fashola, Oshiomhole, Okorocha Tipped As VP Nominees by dayokanu(m): 5:55am On Mar 12, 2013
chukwudi44:

Except that what we are dealing with here are registered voters and not necessary state population.Besides you can see that buhari victory's in some of this states were very narrow like say 1.3m against GEJ's 1.1m in Kadunna.The same scenario would be obtainable in Lagos with a very huge population of SE/SS.GEJ wwas winning almost 98% of votes in the SS/SE while buhari keeps winning 50-60% don't forget we are counting majority of votes cast and not really who will win the states.

The general population is directly related to the voting population.

Theres no way Bayelsa would record more than 1m votes. Same with states like Ebonyi, Abia, Cross River realistically none

If Buhari should win over 70% of votes in places like Katsina, Kano, Lagos, and Oyo(States that can easily churn 1.5m to 2m voters) the margin already would already cover the entire voting population in almost 10 states

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Re: APC: Fashola, Oshiomhole, Okorocha Tipped As VP Nominees by rhymz(m): 5:56am On Mar 12, 2013
dayokanu:

Pre 1993 we already had several religious riots in the North.

In 1993 MKO lost in most of SE states. He lost 3 out of 4 states
Dayo don't be Naive. We had religious Crises pre 1993 but nothing like BokoHaram. A muslim-muslim ticket will surely make a lot of christians and non-muslims uncomfortable.
Again, not ruling out electoral shenanigans, it will take Buhari more than sentimental popularity to win the way Jonathan will be wining in his own region where he is likely to score 90% of their votes. Last time, that region you like to deliberately overlook as unimportant gave him the needed edge to kick Buhari's butt where it mattered. In places like Kano and Kaduna, PDP did not need to win there all they needed was to get as much votes, enough to cancel Buhari's victories in the north while PDP's victory in the south remained untouched. In Kaduna for instance, Buhari got 1. 3 million votes and Jonathan evened it out with about 1.1 million votes from thesame state. In Kano, Buhari got 1.6 million and PDP got almost half a million. Meanwhile in the NorthCentral, he lost almost all-Nassarawa, Kogi, Benue, Adamawa and Abuja were all delivered to PDP, then in the SW, GEJ got more Jara.
The problem with Buhari is not so much of what he can do but his kind of popularity, his popularity is very sectional and restricted to the NE and NW, he relied too much on migrant Hausa-Fulani votes elsewhere in the North and religious sentiments only for PDP to seize them.
If anyone thinks that CPC too was not engaged in all manner of malpractices to get votes in the north then they are naive. Whatever you accuse the PDP for, CPC did too. Like I said, if Jonathan gets the support of the Northern governors and still gets the kind of support he got from the Eastern region, Buhari will have to cry again. If you want to get the true picture of things, go get the eletion results again and observe the voting pattern, needless to say, SW did not ve any serious effect, it was largely a game of numbers between the SE/SS and NE/NW with NC causing serious unbalance in the northern political equation and the SW tagging along to add jara to the already bad situation for Buhari. The fact is, Jonathan was able to get enough votes from Buhari's stronghold but Buhari couldn't even get up to 10percent in Jonathan's stronghold. And I see thesame thing happening with the way his southern friends are quick to dismiss the region again as inconsequential while banking on the very erratic and unpredictable SW votes. . I dey Laugh, this time in Ekiti dialect.
Re: APC: Fashola, Oshiomhole, Okorocha Tipped As VP Nominees by dayokanu(m): 6:04am On Mar 12, 2013
^^ The SW that counts in this doesnt have any issue with a Moslem -Moslem ticket.

Almost every Yoruba person has Moslems in their family so no proble with Moslem Moslem ticket

What you analyzed above is Just the Buhari part of the ticket, WHich would hold if Buhari is running alone or with a nonentity. Have you added the Fashola-ACN part of it.

In 2015 with the way the country is Polarised, and the possible interest by the SW there is no way you can get lackadaisical turnout of 2011

Everyone would turn out and vote to the max, Most people who were either sympathetic to Jonathan or indifferent are now stauchly against him.

The ideology of "Let them also have their turn" most Yorubas had in 2011 is gone and everyone dey "zobo-eyed" now given the total neglect of the SW

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Re: APC: Fashola, Oshiomhole, Okorocha Tipped As VP Nominees by rhymz(m): 6:17am On Mar 12, 2013
dayokanu:

The general population is directly related to the voting population.

Theres no way Bayelsa would record more than 1m votes. Same with states like Ebonyi, Abia, Cross River realistically none

If Buhari should win over 70% of votes in places like Katsina, Kano, Lagos, and Oyo(States that can easily churn 1.5m to 2m voters) the margin already would already cover the entire voting population in almost 10 states
are you talking of registered voters or the population of the states? You seem to be basing your assumptions on states' population. If Imo for instance had 2.5million registered voters and places like like Kaduna or Oyo have 3-4million registered voters whose votes where greatly divided btwn the PDP and CPC while Imo gives almost 90percent of her votes to PDP who do you think is likely to come out victorious if such scenerio replicated itself? Guy do your maths, jonathan got 90% average in the East because the region wanted to pull its weight and send a message to the other region that felt they alone had the numbers to decide. Besides dont forget that Easterners have large migrant population in other parts of the south and North. If you delude yourself that there are no people in the East based on your greatly flawed population census, you will be shocked when you go to places like Aba, PH, Asaba, ONITSHA, ENUGU, UYO, CALABAR AND EDO. Dey Lagos dey think say na there the whole Nigeria dey. . I dey laugh.
Re: APC: Fashola, Oshiomhole, Okorocha Tipped As VP Nominees by Nobody: 6:20am On Mar 12, 2013
dayokanu:

The general population is directly related to the voting population.

Theres no way Bayelsa would record more than 1m votes. Same with states like Ebonyi, Abia, Cross River realistically none

If Buhari should win over 70% of votes in places like Katsina, Kano, Lagos, and Oyo(States that can easily churn 1.5m to 2m voters) the margin already would already cover the entire voting population in almost 10 states

Buhari can never get 70% in Lagos.Guy abeg argue with facts not sentiments.There is just too high population of SS/SE people in lag for that to happen
Re: APC: Fashola, Oshiomhole, Okorocha Tipped As VP Nominees by dayokanu(m): 6:21am On Mar 12, 2013
You really dont know much about politics do you

DO you think a Yoruba man would care about PDP or anything when they hear Fashola is on a ticket of a party?

Didnt all Northern states vote PDP in Governorship elections but voted their man Buhari in the Presidential a week later?

E.g PDP won Bauchi Govership while in presidential they returned 80% votes for Buhari CPC?

How come in 2003 Lagosians were voting AD in governorship and OBJ-PDP in presidential or in 1993 Lagosians voting NRC in governorship but reverting back to SDP by over 70% when they saw a Yoruba name on the ballot paper

And there is no way population of the SE can match the SW. for one SW has 6 states

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Re: APC: Fashola, Oshiomhole, Okorocha Tipped As VP Nominees by dayokanu(m): 6:22am On Mar 12, 2013
chukwudi44:

Buhari can never get 70% in Lagos.Guy abeg argue with facts not sentiments.There is just too high population of SS/SE people in lag for that to happen

How did Olu Falae get 88% of Lagos votes in 1999? Or where was Lagos getting over 70% votes for ACN Fashola or SDP Mko
Re: APC: Fashola, Oshiomhole, Okorocha Tipped As VP Nominees by rhymz(m): 6:32am On Mar 12, 2013
dayokanu: ^^ The SW that counts in this doesnt have any issue with a Moslem -Moslem ticket.

Almost every Yoruba person has Moslems in their family so no proble with Moslem Moslem ticket

What you analyzed above is Just the Buhari part of the ticket, WHich would hold if Buhari is running alone or with a nonentity. Have you added the Fashola-ACN part of it.

In 2015 with the way the country is Polarised, and the possible interest by the SW there is no way you can get lackadaisical turnout of 2011

Everyone would turn out and vote to the max, Most people who were either sympathetic to Jonathan or indifferent are now stauchly against him.

The ideology of "Let them also have their turn" most Yorubas had in 2011 is gone and everyone dey "zobo-eyed" now given the total neglect of the SW
Thank God you know sentiment also played its role especially amongst the Yoruba voting population. The only reason people take the SW seriously is because of Lagos and I am telling you that Lagos Population wont be decided alone by Yorubas. The rest other SW states actually can't pull enough votes to cause any serious upset if Jonathan should get the kind of bloc votes he got from the East and over 70% from the NC and an average of 35-40% in core north. Again, SW votes in a greatly neutralized Lagos votes is not that much, don't exaggerate their size and number as a sub-region, unless you want to clump even non-Yorubas who may not neccessarily share the Yoruba political sentiments as the Yorubas . Nigeria is very good at that anyway but elections will reflect their dis pleasure at such a flaw.
Besides we are still 2yrs away from 2015, sentiments may change once the dividends of current projects starts paying off. Jonathan will be sitting well if he gets Electricity fixed and does nothing else. And there are visible signs of progress in that direction, that is a fact that can't be denied.
Re: APC: Fashola, Oshiomhole, Okorocha Tipped As VP Nominees by rhymz(m): 6:35am On Mar 12, 2013
dayokanu: You really dont know much about politics do you

DO you think a Yoruba man would care about PDP or anything when they hear Fashola is on a ticket of a party?

Didnt all Northern states vote PDP in Governorship elections but voted their man Buhari in the Presidential a week later?

E.g PDP won Bauchi Govership while in presidential they returned 80% votes for Buhari CPC?

How come in 2003 Lagosians were voting AD in governorship and OBJ-PDP in presidential or in 1993 Lagosians voting NRC in governorship but reverting back to SDP by over 70% when they saw a Yoruba name on the ballot paper

And there is no way population of the SE can match the SW. for one SW has 6 states
all you talk about is victory and not the margins and number of votes in relative term to the other party. You sure know how to argue sentimentally. States like Ekiti and Osun with barely a million registered voters na im make up the 6states na. Guy, don't forget that the 90% did not only come from the SE states, the SS also gave theirs, we are talking of the entire Eastern region and you are exaggeriting the importance of just the sw subregion that becomes no different once Lagos is out of the question.
Re: APC: Fashola, Oshiomhole, Okorocha Tipped As VP Nominees by Nobody: 7:03am On Mar 12, 2013
dayokanu:

How did Olu Falae get 88% of Lagos votes in 1999? Or where was Lagos getting over 70% votes for ACN Fashola or SDP Mko

Nobody from the SS/SE did contest did elections.Do you really believe yorubas make up to 80 % of lagos
Re: APC: Fashola, Oshiomhole, Okorocha Tipped As VP Nominees by rhymz(m): 9:12am On Mar 12, 2013
dayokanu:

Pre 1993 we already had several religious riots in the North.

In 1993 MKO lost in most of SE states. He lost 3 out of 4 states
Dayo don't be Naive. We had religious Crises pre 1993 but nothing like BokoHaram. A muslim-muslim ticket will surely make a lot of christians and non-muslims uncomfortable.
Again, not ruling out electoral shenanigans, it will take Buhari more than sentimental popularity to win the way Jonathan will be wining in his own region where he is likely to 90% of their votes. Last time, that region you like deliberately overlook as unimportant gave him the needed edge to kick Buhari's butt where it mattered. In places like Kano and Kaduna, PDP did not need to win there all they needed was to get as much votes, enough to cancel Buhari's victories in the north whiles PDP's victory in the south remained untouched. In Kaduna for instance, Buhari got 1. 3 million votes and Jonathan evened it out with about 1.1 million votes from thesame state. In Kano, Buhari got 1.6 million and PDP got almost a million. Meanwhile in the NorthCentral, he lost almost all-Nassarawa, Kogi, Benue, Adamawa and Abuja were all delivered to PDP, then in the SW, GEJ got more Jara.
The problem with Buhari is not so much of what he can do but his kind of popularity, his popularity is very sectional and restricted to the NE and NW, he relied too much on migrant Hausa-Fulani votes elsewhere in the North only for PDP to seize them.
If anyone thinks that CPC too was not engaged in all manner of malpractices to get votes in the north then they are naive. Whatever you accuse the PDP for, CPC did too. Like I said, if Jonathan gets the support of the Northern governors and still get the kind of support he got from the Eastern region, Buhari will have to cry again. If you want to get the true picture of things, go get the eletion results again and observe the voting pattern, needless to say, SW did not ve any serious effect, it was largely a game of numbers between the SE/SS and NE/NW with NC causing serious unbalance in the northern political equation and the SW tagging along to add jara to the already bad situation for Buhari. The fact is, Jonathan was able to get enough votes from Buhari's stronghold but Buhari couldn't even get up to 10percent in Jonathan's stronghold. And I see thesame thing happening with the way his southern friends are quick to dismiss the region again as inconsequential while banking on the very erratic and unpredictable SW votes. . I dey Laugh, this time in Ekiti dialect.
Re: APC: Fashola, Oshiomhole, Okorocha Tipped As VP Nominees by Rexyl(m): 2:34pm On Mar 12, 2013
CFCfan:

Yoruba's don't generally vote along religious lines. Recall that in 1993, the SW voted massively for the MKO/Kingibe ticket. Both men were Muslims.

Your concern is valid though for SS and SE people.

But bokoharam boys have altered so many things now. Concern now is about who you are going to deal with in terms of what is already identified with such, and suspicion on things that are likely to be altered either in favour or not of you with the trend of time. Then is not having anything in common with now. The bereaved and dislodged members of our families are quite enough signals that certain thing must not be taken for granted this time around.

When an agenda that has been nursed for long eventually matured it changes many things.
Re: APC: Fashola, Oshiomhole, Okorocha Tipped As VP Nominees by dayokanu(m): 3:52pm On Mar 12, 2013
rhymz: all you talk about is victory and not the margins and number of votes in relative term to the other party. You sure know how to argue sentimentally. States like Ekiti and Osun with barely a million registered voters na im make up the 6states na. Guy, don't forget that the 90% did not only come from the SE states, the SS also gave theirs, we are talking of the entire Eastern region and you are exaggeriting the importance of just the sw subregion that becomes no different once Lagos is out of the question.

You just wait and see

In 1999 Presidential election which is almost 15yrs ago Total number of voters in osun state during the presidetial election was 850k. That was in 1999 oo. You mean 15yrs later They would barely have 1m and would have added just 150k people to the number of voters? in 15yrs? You mean the number of people since 1999 who have crossed the age of 18 minus those that died would just be 200k?

Or Ekiti that recorded over 700k votes in 1999 would have a problem adding an additional 300k voters in 15yrs?

All those figures in 2011 was because no one from the SW was interested in the election. Let Fashola get on the ticket and excite the SW voters then you would see America wonder

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Re: APC: Fashola, Oshiomhole, Okorocha Tipped As VP Nominees by dayokanu(m): 3:54pm On Mar 12, 2013
rhymz: Thank God you know sentiment also played its role especially amongst the Yoruba voting population. The only reason people take the SW seriously is because of Lagos and I am telling you that Lagos Population wont be decided alone by Yorubas. The rest other SW states actually can't pull enough votes to cause any serious upset if Jonathan should get the kind of bloc votes he got from the East and over 70% from the NC and an average of 35-40% in core north. Again, SW votes in a greatly neutralized Lagos votes is not that much, don't exaggerate their size and number as a sub-region, unless you want to clump even non-Yorubas who may not neccessarily share the Yoruba political sentiments as the Yorubas . Nigeria is very good at that anyway but elections will reflect their dis pleasure at such a flaw.
Besides we are still 2yrs away from 2015, sentiments may change once the dividends of current projects starts paying off. Jonathan will be sitting well if he gets Electricity fixed and does nothing else. And there are visible signs of progress in that direction, that is a fact that can't be denied.

If we remove Lagos Population the SW is still more populated than the SE according to CENSUS figures.

And a fashola ticket is a yoruba ticket which would get 70% of votes in most SW states just like Awolowo, Olu falae and MKO the recognised Yoruba tickets got in the past

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Re: APC: Fashola, Oshiomhole, Okorocha Tipped As VP Nominees by dayokanu(m): 3:57pm On Mar 12, 2013
chukwudi44: Nobody from the SS/SE did contest did elections.Do you really believe yorubas make up to 80 % of lagos

In 1993 Sylvester Ugo a man from the SE contested as Bashir Tofas running mate. Yet that did not stop Lagosians from giving MKO over 70% votes

In 2003 Okadigbo was the running mate of the ANPP and that did not stop lagosians from giving OBJ the landslide majority.

Yorubas make about 80% of the voting population in lagos.

During elections who do you think vote? Its the indigenes and the local people that do most of the voting

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Re: APC: Fashola, Oshiomhole, Okorocha Tipped As VP Nominees by Jamisco: 4:00pm On Mar 12, 2013
[quote author=digospel2][/quote]

point of correction:

Buhari did not won election in Adamawa, Taraba and Gombe States in the NE. Also he did not won election in Kaduna State, so if things come by your calculation, Buhari will win 9 States in both the NE AND NW
Re: APC: Fashola, Oshiomhole, Okorocha Tipped As VP Nominees by dayokanu(m): 4:14pm On Mar 12, 2013
^^ Buhari won both Kaduna and Gombe states in 2011 election

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Re: APC: Fashola, Oshiomhole, Okorocha Tipped As VP Nominees by buzo1: 6:03pm On Mar 12, 2013
There is always a saying, its not abt the times you fall bt its about the way u rise. Buhari has fallen yet he's still rising. Abraham Lincoln in USA failed but he did not allow dat to disturb him. Today, he is well celebrated in USA, so will Buhari in Nigeria, when voted for. Think Twice when writing ur comment don't follow the multitude o. Cheers

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