Many people believe that Jesus (if he existed) lived a spotless and sin-free life. But is that really the impression one gets from the bible. I submit that some of the things that Jesus did would be considered as crimes, if not sins, in most societies today. According to the bible these are some of the things he is said to have done, or had his disciples do;

1) Curses an innocent fig tree that did not belong to him, thus killing it.

2) Cast some demons out and sent them into a herd of pigs that did not belong to him. The pigs were thus driven insane and ran and threw themselves off a cliff. I bet, you the owner of the pigs would have got really mad with Jesus.

3) Stole (or took without permission) someone else's donkey.

4) Allowed his disciples to walk through someone else's corn field and harvesting corn for themselves without the owner's permission. Worse still, this happened on the Sabbath.

5) Caused a commotion at the temple by overturning the tables of some businessmen.

I put it to you guys that none of such behaviour would be tolerated today. If Jesus really did any of these, then he cannot be said to be sinless.

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huxley yeeeeeh

SeanT21:

This bullshit has to stop. This is not the atheist forum. Take ya non believing ass to The Muslim forum and Have yall anti- Christian conversation with ya muslims friends ASAP!!!

Talk to the moderator(s). They are the ones that will might meet your demands.

SeanT21:

This bullshit has to stop. This is not the atheist forum. Take ya non believing ass to The Muslim forum and Have yall anti- Christian conversation with ya muslims friends ASAP!!!

You appear to have lost your temper. Is that correct?

huxley:

You appear to have lost your temper. Is that correct?

No she's just blunt this time

1)  Curses an innocent fig tree that did not belong to him, thus killing it.

The tree was fruitless so it was of no use anyway. And by the way that was why He cursed it, not because He was looking for food and the thing had none. Remember He went on to state the repercussions of a christian not bearing fruit.

2) Cast some demons out and sent them into a herd of pigs that did not belong to him. The pigs were thus driven insane and ran and threw themselves of a cliff. I bet you the owner of the pigs would have got really mad with Jesus.

Yes, the bible does say that the owners were mad and they sent him out of the city. But would you rather save aherd of pigs than save yourself, from whatever situation? If you are not a vegetarian, dont u know the number of animals that have been killed so that you can chop and survive? Bottomline, you cant compare the worth of human life and animal life.

Which of these of Jesus behaviour would be considered acceptable today?

A_K_O:

The tree was fruitless so it was of no use anyway. And by the way that was why He cursed it, not because He was looking for food and the thing had none. Remember He went on to state the repercussions of a christian not bearing fruit.

The bible says (an expression I rarely use) he cursed it because[b] it was out of season.[/b] It is like cutting down your pear tree because there are no pear fruits when it is not the season.

if he did so of his own will, then u can call it sin if not who are we 2 judge?

Mazaje
Learn to give us ur opinion rather than yeeeeh "ing" after Huxley.

Huxley
You've taking it upon yourself to judge Jesus,[b]MAY HE FORGIVE YOU.[/b]What's next now?Are you going to punish him?That's jst one proof that he's GREATER than anyone.

Huxley and cohort
Take your sorry ass wherever u wish but leave christains alone.

What have you got against my ass. It a nice little pad of flesh on which I sit and which gives me a lot of pleasure when tickled the right way.

Lest I forget, can you try answering the post or defending your Jesus? Which of his behaviour would be acceptable today?

huxley:

Lest I forget, can you try answering the post or defending you Jesus? Which of his behaviour would be acceptable today?

In that case I'm not even bothering myself. Why should I be defending God for you? You?

A_K_O:

The tree was fruitless so it was of no use anyway. And by the way that was why He cursed it, not because He was looking for food and the thing had none. Remember He went on to state the repercussions of a christian not bearing fruit.


Yes, the bible does say that the owners were mad and they sent him out of the city. But would you rather save aherd of pigs than save yourself, from whatever situation? If you are not a vegetarian, don't u know the number of animals that have been killed so that you can chop and survive? Bottomline, you can't compare the worth of human life and animal life.

The fig tree was simply out of season and no reason to be killed. BTW, why did Jesus not realise the tree was out of season but had to make a trip to the tree to find it was out of season? If he not all-knowing? The more you look into this Jesus character, the more you cannot resist disliking him and finding him immoral.

Could he not simply have killed the demons? Why send them into a herd of innocent pigs?

A_K_O:

In that case I'm not even bothering myself. Why should I be defending God for you? you??

Huxley,i have told you a million times that giving answers to your ques isn't the problem but you are the problem.I liken it to sending fist into the air.

Missy B:




Huxley,i have told you a million times that giving answers to your ques isn't the problem but you are the problem.I liken it to sending fist into the air.

How am I the problem? I am talking or posting about myself. So how come I am the problem? I have asked simply question. I bet, if these had been about Mohammed you guys would be criticising thick and fast.

huxley:

How am I the problem?  I am talking or posting about myself.  So how come I am the problem?  I have asked simply question.  I bet, if these had been about Mohammed you guys would be criticising thick and fast.

You apen to be d prob cuzz you aren't seekin knowledge but criticism and me has got no time for that. _{gracious me,i hate repeating maself.}

Mohammed?I've got better things to keep me busy rather than flex ma fingers by typing obvious truth about sm god.
The only one i can sacrifice that time for is God like u already know.capisci?

Missy B:

You apen to be d prob cuzz you aren't seekin knowledge but criticism and me has got no time for that. _{gracious me,i hate repeating maself.}

Mohammed?I've got better things to keep me busy rather than flex ma fingers by typing obvious truth about sm god.
The only one i can sacrifice that time for is God like u already know.capisci?

OK, give it up then if you cannot stand my criticism. I happen to loathe irrational non-sense and make it my duty to try to reduce the amount of such non-sense in the world. If you cannot stand it, take a heck, my dear. I am NOT seeking knowledge as you appear to have none to give.

huxley:

OK, give it up then if you cannot stand my criticism.  I happen to loathe irrational non-sense and make it my duty to try to reduce the amount of such non-sense in the world.  If you cannot stand it, take a heck, my dear.  I am NOT seeking knowledge as you appear to have none to give

That a man refused to invite a madman to his party doesn't mean he's not got enough drink to offer

Missy B:

That a man refused to invite a madman to his party doesn't mean he's not got enough drink to offer

The platform is yours. Answer the questions or stop moaning and shutup.

huxley:

The platform is yours.  Answer the questions or moaning and shut up

Hhehehehe,jst like i'm trynn*a stand your heat.

You can get the heck out of the kitchen if u can't stand d heat.

_{u first dey run leave ur thread b4,no be news,u can decide to do so again cuzz of moi.}

Missy B:

Hhehehehe,jst like i'm trynn*a stand your heat.

You can get the heck out of the kitchen if u can't stand d heat.

_{u first dey run leave your thread before,no be news,u can decide to do so again cuzz of moi.}

I get plenty of thread oh. I no dey run leave anyone. I dey stay answer all teh question we wona gettam. No wona no dey answer my question.

first i'll like 2 add that we are all fools i included in this thread. . . . . .yes in the so called bid to redeem Jesus's image which doesnt need redemption/we don't even have the power to we are being undisputedly foolish. i apologise for all the explanatory posts here, my job here is done

i thought huxley sounded like a conventional atheist name.i think i am right.can smone confirnm my observation

Pls arraign Jesus at the Yaounde High Court. We cant help you here bro.

nice one ther ther davidy

@A K O:

« #6 on: Yesterday at 10:40:16 PM
The tree was fruitless so it was of no use anyway. And by the way that was why He cursed it, not because He was looking for food and the thing had none. Remember He went on to state the repercussions of a christian not bearing fruit.

Good answer given by Huxley, to your dubious response, intentionally hiding that the tree was just simply obeying the laws that guide the fruiting of fig trees. Do mango trees have fruits out of its seasons? Do women get pregnant with ovulating? Everything has its place, its season.




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Yes, the bible does say that the owners were mad and they sent him out of the city. But would you rather save aherd of pigs than save yourself, from whatever situation? If you are not a vegetarian, don't u know the number of animals that have been killed so that you can chop and survive? Bottomline, you can't compare the worth of human life and animal life.
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The same darn Pig, you Christians love its flesh. In america, they call it the other white meat. Is one of you concerned that Jesus might have shown you by this action of his that Pig should not be consumed?



@Davidylan: I think the Abuja court is more suited for it. This Jesus is different from my Isa bin Mariam, rasulullah, (AS).

:d :d

enjoying this debate

Would any of Jesus's behaviour be acceptable today? If yes, why? If not, why not?

@A K O:
I meant without. (Do women get pregnant without ovulating? Everything has its place, its season.)

@huxley

im beginning to blive dat u is mentally unstable