Depilot:

@Justcash:
I think if you get a little closer to Nigeria you may see few things clearer and will help your judgement about Why Is Nigeria So Difficult To Develop . And this is coming from a person that is connected to a Nigerian business that is currently providing over 5,000 employment opportunities to Nigerians in Nigeria.

Depilot:

It has been nice chatting with you, Let's do it again. Got to go.

Justcash:

I just came back from Nigeria last two weeks.
I go to Nigeria once every three months. I know what I am saying. I have tried to propose a serious manufacturing vernture to the government for the production of cheap educational laptops (4,000 naira) for government owned colleges and universities (Compulsory) to aid an IT revolution. I get questions like "What is my share in it". If the laptops will be of high quality, I need to measure my production cost and keep it at a minimal. Those fools don't mind making it compulsory at the rate of 15,000 Naira. How many students can afford that? The point is no single government official took it serious. All I needed was an electric power incentive (Power generation source,Not financial) to set it up and provide the laptops. A Japanese friend of mine was ready to donate funds, just for the love of development.

The factors that will facilitate the utilisation of these growth opportunities to bring about development are being ignored by Government. Unfortunately, these things can only be facilitated by the government E.G Good roads, Water , Light, security, etc.

An example of my point is your average PLC. If after years of continuous decline in revenue and general output of corporation X it is discovered that there is a need for a overhaul of the system, who decides this ? The shop floor workers of corporation X or the board of corporation X?
The govt is the principal reason why we have not moved not the common man on the street.

How can a person partake in a system which is obviously not created with him in mind ? An aspiring leader reads his Manifesto to the electorate and presents his argument. He promises to bring bout development after studying the general clime of the nation. Then what do yo assess the success or failure of his administration based on ? Is it not on the promises he made before his ascent to the seat ?

After ascending you say that you cannot bring about development cos of the people who you rule, with the apparatus of the state at your disposal, don't want to develop. Isn't this the most silly argument on God's earth. Is the average Nigerian as stubborn and unruly as the average Lagosian ? How does Fashola then achieve such feats not seen in these parts Inspite of being in the same country ?

Kobojunkie:

. Not Sit back pointing fingers when the system itself REQUIRES that you get up and do something about it. It is not going to happen AUTOMAGICALLY.


When you leave your fate in the hands of politicians, that is what you get. But the problem still remains that with the system we have now, it is NOT UP to the politicians to handle your fate but the people to decide their fate.

Depilot:

@Justcash:
1st step of developing a nation = Citizens working together and giving back to their country.
Please access this link and take a look at your brothers and sisters doing volunteer work in Lagos.
http://www.africanloft.com/
Jushcash: are you willing to give back to your country?

redsun:

How can nigeria develop without a reasonable leadership?All the politicians in nigeria as far as any sane mind knows are in the race to loot and plunder the country,not to develop.
Our concept of development is stealing and at the same time praying for miracles to make things happen.

tensor777:

I thought as much that you had a specific grouse with some federal government officials the way you were ranting and raving here.
This topic really had nothing to do with development at all, as was further evidenced by your obvious disdain for it.
It was more about how indigenous contractors can get favourable treatment from the FGN.

Justcash:

Man, as you should know by now that I am not looking for any damn favour from the FGN. If I was, I would have gotten it easily. I would simply heed to the demand for some cut for the officials. The Laptop would have been out at the rate of 15,000, and many students would have been forced to buy them. Since Many students can't afford them, the govt will simply put on paper that they purchased them, and an allocation will be made for it from the FGN's budget. The laptops will probably be shared and resold by the officials at the rate of 30,000 Naira to people like you.
But I aint for it. I studied in Nigeria for more that 25 years. I know the effect of such a thing on the future of Nigerian students. I was actually not going to make up to 300 Naira on each laptop. Almost everything will go to the expatriates that will come to set the project on track and the training of Nigerians that will take over. Jobs will be created, skills will be acquired (For future use), Students will gain IT knowledge and become very computer literate.
Now this and volunteer work which one is better?

edoyad:

@justcash could you do us a favour by posting the story of the Nigerian monorail saga and a link to it if you have it ?
That plus your example on 4000 naira laptop should go a long way in telling people who still doubt how our progress is being undermined by a visionless and corrupt few.
I'll end by saying Hilary Clinton didn't directly refer to Nigeria as a failed state when she visited. To paraphrase What she said is that for a country that's one of the top ten oil exporters in the world to go round and import petroleum, that to her pretty much is the signal of a failed state.

9jaganja:

Hahahahaahaha 4k naira laptops? with 12mb ram and 50mb hard drive right? are you for real? I used to think our politicians are silly but now I know they are not at all. 4k naira laptop? dude can you listen to your self? Your user name really reflects your personality. IT revolution? with sub-par laptops? hahahahhaha . Change your topic to why is it that businesses don't grow in Nigeria. This topic is not about development. When man never chop na him go de carry 4k naira laptop? guy you funny ooooo. And it even shows you have no idea of business venture cause if you do, you'll know manufacturing a laptop is very expensive. So you want the federal government to pay the rest? billions of dollars on laptops while there many projects to be done that they won't do? you really are what I thought you are. Wow! So IT revolution is the next step in developing Nigeria? It's not just the rulers that have misplaced priorities, it seem the virus has spread to the citizens to

Food and education first and these two things must not be made a business venture. I seriously hope those who want to help Nigeria won't have to listen to you just cash.

Justcash:

Depilot: Embarking on a Volunteer Work is not the answer. Contribution of our skills in a realistic way to help develop the country is the answer. Do you know that a Nigerian is building the mono-rail system in Iraq. He presented several proposals to the Nigerian government to fund it, they refused. They preferred to award a contract worth more than 8 billion dollars to a chinese firm to build a locomotive rail system. The consultancy fee for that project is more than 200 million dollars. The mono rail that the Nigerian proposed and the one he is building in iraq is just 600 million dollars. Imagine how foolish the government is. you would prefer the Nigerian to build it for free in the name of volunteering and be dancing to Psquare's do me? Wetin dey do you sef? What do we have a government for? Abeg!!!!!

Justcash:

Depilot: Embarking on a Volunteer Work is not the answer. Contribution of our skills in a realistic way to help develop the country is the answer. Do you know that a Nigerian is building the mono-rail system in Iraq. He presented several proposals to the Nigerian government to fund it, they refused.

Justcash:

 They preferred to award a contract worth more than 8 billion dollars to a chinese firm to build a locomotive rail system. The consultancy fee for that project is more than 200 million dollars. The mono rail that the Nigerian proposed and the one he is building in iraq is just 600 million dollars. Imagine how foolish the government is. you would prefer the Nigerian to build it for free in the name of volunteering and be dancing to Psquare's do me? Wetin dey do you sef? What do we have a government for? Abeg!!!!!

tensor777:



^^That is exacly why he does not want to hear about Depilot's sagacious contributions on volunteering.

9jaganja:

Hahahahaahaha 4k naira laptops? with 12mb ram and 50mb hard drive right? are you for real? I used to think our politicians are silly but now I know they are not at all. 4k naira laptop? dude can you listen to your self? Your user name really reflects your personality. IT revolution? with sub-par laptops? hahahahhaha . Change your topic to why is it that businesses don't grow in Nigeria. This topic is not about development. When man never chop na him go de carry 4k naira laptop? guy you funny ooooo. And it even shows you have no idea of business venture cause if you do, you'll know manufacturing a laptop is very expensive. So you want the federal government to pay the rest? billions of dollars on laptops while there many projects to be done that they won't do? you really are what I thought you are. Wow! So IT revolution is the next step in developing Nigeria? It's not just the rulers that have misplaced priorities, it seem the virus has spread to the citizens to
Food and education first and these two things must not be made a business venture. I seriously hope those who want to help Nigeria won't have to listen to you just cash.

edoyad:

@justcash Thanks
as for you who thinks 4000 Naira laptop is a joke, just go round our schools and see how many undergraduates dont even know how to send an email. We'll be in 2010 in a few days. Whether It's a 1mb RAM with hard drive of 10mb, the idea is to give them a practical knowledge of using a PC, ofcourse i wouldn't expect a doofus like you to understand something that simple

edoyad:

@justcash could you do us a favour by posting the story of the Nigerian monorail saga and a link to it if you have it ?
That plus your example on 4000 naira laptop should go a long way in telling people who still doubt how our progress is being undermined by a visionless and corrupt few.
I'll end by saying Hilary Clinton didn't directly refer to Nigeria as a failed state when she visited. To paraphrase What she said is that for a country that's one of the top ten oil exporters in the world to go round and import petroleum, that to her pretty much is the signal of a failed state.

Justcash:

@edoyad: You are welcome man.
There are millions of Nigerian professionals that are all hoping to offer services  that will boost Nigerias development at the cheapest rate. Curruption, Pessimism and red tapism discourages and chases them away.

Justcash:
Nigerian government prefers to import 1million cars per-month, when there are actually Nigerians that can produce cars that are better than what they import. A Simple collaboration between the private individuals and FGN to construct of a car manufacturing factory and provide constant power to it sounds like a rip-off to Kobojunkie and co. Imagine the madness some Nigerians are exhibiting in this forum. It shows that many Nigerians does not even know what the real problem is.

Kobojunkie:

Services? Is that what development is all about to you? More PROFIT MAKING AND MORE BUSINESS? Aaarrrgghh!!!! I don’t know whether to laugh or cry at this point.


Arrrrgghhh!!!!!

Kobojunkie:

Services? Is that what development is all about to you? More PROFIT MAKING AND MORE BUSINESS? Aaarrrgghh!!!! I don’t know whether to laugh or cry at this point.

a) The Nigerian government used to assemble cars out in Jos some years back, that STILL did not TRANSLATE into meaningful development

b) Government has been collaborating with private sector for years and that still has yet to yield substantial dividends in the area of development – LOOK AT LAGOS STATE for an example. The Groundwork needs to be DONE before any meaningful development can be seen or reaped.

c) I don’t know how long you have known of Nigeria but I suggest you look to our past to understand your suggestions are NOT NEW – we have tried and tested and found wanting most all of what you have been advocating for to this point

d) Why are we RESISTANT to change? Why do we prefer to BLINDLY continue the old(I know most do it so they can get THEIR SHARE OF THE PROFITS and the NIGERIAN MARKET ANYWAY) when the new is actually better for all?
Arrrrgghhh!!!!!

Justcash:

Na wa for you o! Are Saying that it should be for free? As in Professionals should come and build factories, offer services for Free? I am through with you too.

Services? Is that what development is all about to you? More PROFIT MAKING AND MORE BUSINESS? Aaarrrgghh!!!! I don’t know whether to laugh or cry at this point.