Adejoro74:
Bullshit!!! He was the sitting president before the election and as we know he won (read rigged) the entire south and many northern states. He out-rigged Buhari and the other guys. Even Tinubu bowed for him, no?

Akby: Statistics my foot!!! This is reality and not a matter of who register for jamb and all that. For your information, less that 1% of the total population of Nigeria register for jamb every year so u cant judge a nation using a 1% statistics. From the days of the colonial masters and trends downward, u can't take it away from Ogun, Ondo and Ekiti. Take a teenage from all the states of the federation and put them to test, u will see dat one of the state indigiene would come first cos the foundation as already been laid before the inception of this failed 6-3-3-4 educational system!!!

Sam_Ikenna:
I see your point but I think you're giving a little bit too much life to their assumed political "savviness." The truth is - in Africa, he who has the bigger gun cuts the cake, in fact he owns the cake irrespective of where the ingredients are found and mixed. The north, I agree were good political gamers, but you also have to know that what helped cement the north in power was the absence of the East in the political calculus of this nation during and after the civil war. The fear of Igbo domination was exactly what the north needed and it worked for awhile time. Today the reality is different 'cause that myth has been way watered down and the East that played dumb just to survive after the war is no longer interested in second fiddle anymore, they also want the cake as bad as north wants it.

If you get my drift, I'm implying that the political success of core north hinged on the continual absence of the East, Igbo domination myth, and Eastern mutual hate and distrust without which the political terain will be Igbo vs Hausa vs Yoruba. Given that those walls of mutual distrust and domination myths in the East are crashing, is it any wonder why we're seeing a huge shake-up in our body polity? I'm not taking anything from Yoruba's mastery of Nigerian politics but I think you probably 4got that in the early 60s it was Igbos that were ascribed with that doggedness and savviness quality before West and North tag-teamed on the East. The point I'm making is that no one is super-wise and savvy, its more like a roller-coaster thing. Today, the Ijaw man is the boss, tomorrow could be Berom or Ibibio man.

shymmex:

I disagree with the bolded part.. Igbos have never been politically savvy in the Nigerian context.. You guys had only one average political gamer, and that was ZIk - and we all know how Ahmadu Bello turned him into his boy - in the first republic... Even Zik was used and dumped by Ahmadu Bello - hence, the rise of Akintola... After Zik, Igbos have been docile.. You guys need to go back to the drawing board, and start afresh...



The 'Igbo domination myth' was about expansionism, and not political savviness... I don't think ndigbos have ever played their cards right in the Nigerian context.. And there's no shake up in the Nigerian polity - it's still the same... SW has shifted back to regionalism like it was in the first republic - the North is back where it was in the first republic, with Buhari's party leading the way - and the SE is still divided as ever..

Don't let the emergence of GEJ fool you, he was put there by OBJ - and he won't last beyond 2015...

Adejoro74:
Igbos were/are not savvy yet they held most of the military and political positions before the war. You are deluded.

shymmex:

Military, yes... That was because they colonialists trusted the Igbos than any other southern tribe - because of their acceptance of catholicism.. Yorubas and Benins never respected the British - maybe you need to read what Awolowo said about them..

As for political positions - you're living in fool's paradise.. Igbos only controlled their part of the country... And Zik was a CEREMONIAL president - and he became the president because of the pact between the North and SE...

Zik was dumped by Ahmadu Bello - hence, the rise of Akintola, and most of the Igbo appointments in the federal government were given to Yorubas. That was why most people suspected the Jan. 1966 was an Igbo coup - because they were becoming irrelevant in Nigerian politics..

Read more about Nigeria, bruv..

Sam_Ikenna:

On the bolded, I guess we send our girls to school and have our boys take turns in digging holes lol! I'm of the impression that for some personal reasons you think low of Igbo males. Let me put it this way - I'm from Imo state and to the best of my knowledge it'll be almost impossible to find an Imolite between the age of 12 and 30-40 who cant write simple english. Mind you, I said "write," I didnt say "degree." I dont know how many of our boys have degrees but if I recall vividly, our boys always did better than girls in secondary school and about 60-70% went to uni afterwards ( I went to a village secondary school for your info). Of the number that went to uni, a huge chunk majored in sciences and engineering.

However, I would say that its pointless comparing who is out-educating who in Nigeria because with all our degrees and diplomas what do we have to show for it? Boko Haram, 419, porvety, etc. Big shame.

shymmex:

Military, yes... That was because the colonialists trusted the Igbos than any other southern tribe - because of their acceptance of catholicism.. Yorubas and Benins never respected the British - maybe you need to read what Awolowo said about them..

As for political positions - you're living in fool's paradise.. Igbos only controlled their part of the country... And Zik was a CEREMONIAL president - and he became the president because of the pact between the North and SE...

Zik was dumped by Ahmadu Bello - hence, the rise of Akintola, and most of the Igbo appointments in the federal government were given to Yorubas. That was why most people suspected the Jan. 1966 was an Igbo coup - because they were becoming irrelevant in Nigerian politics..

Read more about Nigeria, bruv..

Adejoro74:

You are one half-baked dude

At the time you speak about Igbos were all this:

1. President (Zik)
2. Senate President Nwafor Orizu
3.Speaker of the House (Jaja Nwachukwu)
4. First UN under sec Gen of African origin (Jaja)
5. First Perm Sec to the UN (Jaja)
6 Min of Aviation (Nwachukwu)
7 Minister of Commerce/political adviser to the PM (Mbadiwe)

And you claim they were relevant?

Balewa's Ministers
OFFICE NAME TERM
Prime Minister Abubakar Tafawa Balewa 1957–1966
Foreign Affairs Jaja Wachuku 1961–1965
Transportation Raymond Njoku 1957–1960
Education Aja Nwachukwu 1957–1960
Commerce K. O. Mbadiwe 1957–1960
Communications Samuel Ladoke Akintola 1957–1960
Finance Festus Okotie-Eboh 1957–1960
Internal Affairs J. M. Johnson 1957–1960
Information Kola Balogun 1957–1960
Health Ayo Rosiji 1957–1960
Labor ....... .......
Mines Muhammadu Ribadu 1957–1960

How many Igbos are there compared to others? Can you mention and substantiate one position taken from an Igbo and given to another group, before the war But for the war, Igbos were poised to take over Nigeria. By all account, Yorubas were the ones sidelined until Obasanjo came in. Now they are in limbo again.

shymmex:

That was because of the PACT between NCNC and NPN - we all know the northerners ran things in the first republics.

Adejoro74:
And a pact that gave you so much was not about your savviness, right?

shymmex:

That's if you believe selling your soul for ceremonial post is savviness. You guys betrayed the South!!

And we all know how the unholy marriage ended! -----------------------------------------------------> Biafra

Adejoro74:
Dude, quit ranting like a rain-drenched pigeon. As of today, the North is fighting for its political life and the South (specifically the Ijaw, a so-called minority) holds the ace. That is not savvy, to my mind. Please go to bed, you are too ignorant about these things.

icon aus: People are still living in the past . Even before the civil war , igbos were the most educated and this was the fact . Then after the war igbos suffered a major set back both in trade and education. But currently igbo people are people to beat in terms of education and other human endeavours. People esp the sw are still thinking that the igbos are still lagging behind in education ; that was after the war . That igbos are good in trading does not mean they are behind in education; you guys got it wrong . Igbos are in every thing and that makes a society or region complete. i came from a family of 8 in Aambra and all of us are professionals. And besides , igbos have money therefore can afford to send their children to school and the best one for that matter.

jmaine: If we are to adopt statistical parity in having a fair judgement . .wont it be necessary we factor in the population indices of each states to come to a balanced conclusion of which state has the most educated in Nigeria . . .

A reason why Lagos is the undisputed number one cos her level of educated inhabitants would comfortably give other states a 100% literacy rate . . . while a state like kano even though with a small education literacy indices would have fared better with a smaller population . . .

So let's try factoring the population indices of each states vis-a-vis their rating in arriving to an acceptable inference . . .

Adejoro74:
Dude, quit ranting like a rain-drenched pigeon. As of today, the North is fighting for its political life and the South (specifically the Ijaw, a so-called minority) holds the ace. That is not savvy, to my mind. Please go to bed, you are too ignorant about these things.

mmkamson:
Now diz s hw an educated person finkz....goin 2 school does nt mak u educated it jst makes u certificated and by dt u r expected to show some difference in ur reasoning lik U jst did.
By d way wht state re u frm? I tak it as d most educated

Onlytruth: The more I think about it, the more I marvel at how great a country Biafra would have been had we seceded successfully.
Even South Korea wouldn't stand a chance!
We have EVERYTHING: Natural resource, Smart and hard working citizens, 95% Christian, the heavens would have been our limit. By now, we won't need to be slicing and dicing our way in Nigeria trying to assert our NATURAL tendencies.
We achieve all these in the Nigerian jungle. To God be the glory!

kcswat: my brother. It baffles me why Biafra failed. Am still optimistic that if biafra 2015 we'll still attain greatness like japan n korea.I don't why I share passport with this malu. I need biafra though my family have millions of naira worth of property up north n abuja. We can still make it

MR A.D OLUDEHINWA:
Ondo state, cos the best waec student in the whole west africa came from the state, for the very first time. God bless Ondo state and Ilaje l.g.a.

alj harem:

My brother, If it is OAU eyes they are looking at then so be it. If we bring out stats of the best University in African continent (of over 500 universities) OAU was the first in Nigeria. What does that tell you ?

Today UK can boast of good educational level among her citizens not because they are good in English language or good with "diction" but because of the problem solving ability.

Before we say A and B, some are quick to shout waec, jamb etc. Ask yourself why did Uk ban Nigerian univerities and not OAU and co ?

My brother it is quality not quantity. Spelling and grammar does not show how educated one is. For all I care I can be writing and be good in Fula would one consider me as an uneducated man ?

The performance you are talking about does not go to those states and you know that. I hope you see what I mean.

chucky234:
Guy how many Osun indigenous graduates come of OAU every academic session,guy for that thing wey you dey talk.

Okija_juju: @ topic

The most educated state is the poorest state in Nigeria and that state is EKITI STATE.

This is because they are all educated by the sub-standard Nigerian educational system.

The most internationally educated state is Anambra.

alj harem: Jmaine sorry that I did not respond to your comment. I knew this thread was going to be hijacked.


@ Adejoro aka Nchara and Bashr4 etc

State is different from ethnicity lets get our facts right here. For all I care OAU might have all Igbo student but the quality again is way higher than many Nigerian universities.

You two are quick to talk about Yoruba down fall, free education this, Igbos have beaten the yoruba etc and all other childish remarks. I am not looking at it from that point of view. I am look at it in terms of standard of education, employment rate of each university and the great professionals those universities have churn out on a yearly bases.

Tell me how many big successive men Nsukka have produced compare to the ones I listed.

The truth is that Nigeria universities are not up to standard but reality remains those universities I alj harem picked are still the best in Nigeria.

Yes if they are, it would directly correlate to the state in which those universities are to be the most educated.

Most educated is not in terms of number of graduates alone but also in terms of quality education which those state/schools have.

If we now move down to Secondary schools, you would find out that those states have the best public and private secondary schools in Nigeria. Especially Lagos quote me anyday.

If it is poly's as well, Ogun has the best poly in Nigeria which is the Agricultural poly in Abeokuta of which other countries send their people to.

http://www.webometrics.info/top100_continent.asp?cont=africa