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AntiBalaka:
Please , Obasanjo is from where again?

Olu Falae ran on an alliance platform of AD and APP. AD being an unapologetic tribal party with APP being a northern party.

In 1999, and till this day, PDP was and still the only truly national party.

The Igbos voted wisely in rejecting the SW-North alliance .

What this thread really exposed is how Yorubas have always aligned with the north .

Has Tinubu ever supported a southern candidate?

From Ribadu to Atiku to Buhari, Tinubu and the SW has always been in alliance with the north .

If the Igbos voted wisely in voting Obj who is a northern candidate, against Olu Falae who is a Western candidate, how come Igbos wailed marginalization after 16 years?.
If I begin to list all the SABO that Igbos disguised as alliance since independence, can you handle it?.
The funny part of it all is that you people always end up wailing, crying and gnashing your teeth.
Did the Igbos took all their alliance with the north in good faith? no, most of the alliance, are to ride the " supposedly mumu north ", or to spite the " non compromising west ".
Unfortunately the Mumu north has grown muscle and has become a bully, and the non compromising west has also learned the politics of give and take, leaving the Igbos out and confused.
Igbos made a habit of always aligning with the north, now the West have also learned to align with the north, the funny thing is, the alliance worked for them or have you heard the West wail marginalization?.

AntiBalaka:
Are you ok at all?

Olu Falae contested the elections under an alliance platform of the AD and APP.

These two parties remain regional parties .

PDP was and still remains national in outreach and by the way is Obasanjo a northerner?

Is Ekwueme a Yoruba man?, how many SE and SS delegates went to Jos convention?, how many votes did Ekwueme got?, the result of that primary election shows that Your people sold out.
Obasanjo was a northern candidate, he infact had nothing to do with the formation of PDP.
The northern cabal only used Obj to pacify the Yorubas because of the June 12 debacle.
Obj was rejected by the Yorubas because we believed he reaped where he did not sow, but SE and SS collected money from the north and abandoned Ekwueme for Obj.
Obj that was poor like church rat before being released from the prison, how can he have money to beat Ekwueme? Obj was bankrolled by the north and your people love money, this was how Ekwueme was disgraced in Jos, simple.

Always aligning themselves with northern agenda, serving as spanners in the southern wheel of progress.
But when they don't get the expected returns, they scream they shout marginalization, and cry like victims, the northern hegemonists already know their mummy button " money ", and have used it to keep them where they are, since independence till today.
Or else how can they explain what happened at Jos convention, people like us expected the voting to go into second round between Obj and Ekwueme, but it was like a walk in the park for Obj as my BLODAS from the East sold Ekwueme for a pittance.

Jimi24:
NO.
Rice grows in just 4 months. There are so many unemployed youths it's a bomb
The era of slackness and cluelessness ended with Jonathan.

So you don't know that lazyness and shotsightness goes hand in hand, anyone who have access to land and did not hammer in this Buhari government, can NEVER hammer again in life.
A friend who had a degree in Agric science and has be managing a small poultry for sustainance, just got a loan to start fish and rice farming.
While the majority sees the hole, the minority that saw the doughnut are already exploring and exploiting the opportunities.
Agric generally is the highest employer of labour at the moment, very soon textile will also begins to employ people.

MetaPhysical:
Thats not true!

There is a video on internet done about filth in Lagos. It was done prior to Ambode. Lagos has more demand on it than it can manage in sanitation, road safety, fire safety, health and wellness, community planning. This is the truth.

It is possible to keep Lagos spotless and well sanitized. Many people will go to jail and serve as lessons for other violators before we can get to that point. Lagos State has sanitation law that dates back to 1940s, and they are still very valid. If govt executes and enforces them the jails will fill up in one day of operation alone. Many houses and shops will also stand to be condemned and demolished. Govt can do that. Can citizens accept that outcome?

Shior, Ambode goofed on that vision scape/ Lawma faceoff, and that useless BRT lane he constructed on Oshodi/ Abule egba area.
Did you know what people of that area go through, before Ambode was booted out, and are still going through now.
The road is already narrowed and Ambode still went on to carve a BRT lane out of it, more than ten people died last December just trying to get to their homes after closing from work, they all died inside go slow, people are still laying curses on Ambode everyday in that area.
An insensitive man like Ambode have no bussiness governing a crowded place like Lagos.
And that his useless task force that goes out even on Sundays to seize people's wares in the market, it shall NEVER be well with them and Ambode.

Uchek:
Very Very untrue what that fellow wrote!

Untrue?, google is your friend, Professor Sam Aluko granted an interview on this matter, Victor Banjo's wife gave her own account of her husband's role, titled " I'M NOT DEAD YET ".
Professor Sam Aluko even said it, that he WARNED Ojukwu NOT to go to Aburi meeting without him, he said he already knows that discussion of that magnitude required a high level of PATIENCE, GRIT AND SENSIBILITY because concessions will have to be made.
Ojukwu went to Aburi alone, without his POLITICAL ADVISER and later cry breach of agreement.
Google is your friend, google search all my lies, Obasanjo is the so called Nigerian army that Banjo was negotiating with, Banjo only tried to minimize the exposure of his soldiers, and the innocent civilians to bloody confrontations.
Ojukwu prefer that Banjo shoot his way into Yorubaland since Obj is not co operating, by not giving Banjo and his soldiers, passage into Yoruba land.
At the end of it all, did Philip Effiong not DISCUSS with the Nigerian Army?.
War is not a picnic, where war happened people die have you heard of Stalingrad?.
Where war is Inevitable, it must be managed such that loss of lives is reduced to the barest minimum.
This is what Banjo tried to do, for which he had to die.

[quote author=Uchek post=83517816]Very Very untrue

jimyjames:
When ojukwu released banjo from prison banjo stayed with ojukwu to help Biafra fight Nigeria, the agreement between him and ojukwu was that if Biafra succeed and finally gets independent, Biafra will help the west get independence too, banjo betrayed ojukwu and was secretly negotiating with Nigeria, he was the one that led his troops to ore and was heading towards Lagos , banjo wasn't a straight forward man, if you know the reason why the Nigerian government locked banjo in the eastern prison, then you will understand why ojukwu executed him

The second agreement was that the Biafran leaders will not change the leaders of territories they will pass through.
Banjo told Ojukwu that the most important thing is to win the trust of fellow Southerners, professor Sam Aluko also told Ojukwu the same thing, Aluko even told him not to start the war yet, that his neighbors in SS are suspicious of Igbo agenda, that they did not trust the Igbos, that Ojukwu must win them over first.
Banjo was the one who led the Biafran Army westward, he took Asaba without firing a single bullet, he did same at Benin, all that Banjo did was called the traditional rulers and political leaders of those areas and persuade them to co operate, that the mission is to deliver the Southern Nigeria.
It was when he got to Ore that he was begging Obasanjo, who refused to allow them passage, and his soldiers which includes Ifeajuna and others begins to complain of poor welfare, and lack of amunitions.
And also Ojukwu boys are also already changing the agreement in Benin /Asaba axis, raping women, forcing men into Biafran army and sacking, looting villages and changing their leaders, replacing them with Biafrans.
So Banjo wrote a letter to Ojukwu to show his displeasure about so many things that was happening, Ojukwu invited Banjo back to their base in the East and labeled him a coupist, and set up a kangaroo court that pronounced Banjo, Ifeajuna and few others guilty.
Did Ojukwu succeed with his Biafra?, why did he loose the war and had to flee to exile?, he can NOT use his brain, he still cannot take advise from those who are smarter than him.
Yorubas knew what happened to Banjo, Banjo a master millitatry strategist, he fell shouting " I'M NOT DEAD YET ", it would have been better for him, if he had died at war front at least, he would have died a responsible death.
Ojukwu did not loose the war to the Nigerian army, he lost the war when he lost the control of his army and allow them to run wild, attacking and subjugating his neighbors.
Which Yoruba will allow the Biafran soldiers to do what had happened in Asaba and Benin, to Yoruba land, if it's possible to stop it?.
After a 100 years of civil war in which so many Yorubas lost their families to deaths and slavery, and another 100 years of colonization, Yorubas should open their door again to another war of subjugation, masqueraded as war of liberation?.
This is why Omoluabi don't do political bussiness with Igbos, it had never worked and it will NEVER work.

seunspice:
If only the ndigbo would stop the campaign of hate and playing the victim they would be better off. Just before you jump at criticism, read my comment with an open mind.
I am Yoruba and a proud one at that but all the major tribes of this country have their blames and faults as regards the tribal conflicts we are in.
Prior to the civil war, there were enough evidences of the hausa/Fulani hatred for southerner especially the ndigbo because of how territorial they were. I would later post links to YouTube videos where you will see prominent Hausa leaders berating southerner especially the ndigbo. The first coup by Kaduna Nzeogwu and his team of 5 which had just one Yoruba man however deepened the divide by their execution of regional leaders from all regions except igboland. They paved way for Azikiwe to escape to the UK and forewarned all Igbo leaders in the SE. This is what led to the massacre of the igbos in the north majorly and in Lagos. Yes! Lagos! Most Yoruba's never want to accept the truth but Igbo's were slaughtered right here on Carter bridge....
Ojukwu wasn't the right man to lead the Biafra charge because he had his own agenda but I barely blame him for whatever reason. He was friends with Gowon and the war would have been nipped in the bud had Gowon honoured the Aburi accord to stop the killings of Ndigbo across the nation.
Ojukwu reached out to the Yoruba leaders notably Awolowo et al and they asked for more time so that adequate logistics could be put in place as no one goes to war without adequate preparation, let's not forget that Lagos was the seat of government and there were several garrisons of the army in the South west. An I'll preparation would have spelt doom for Yoruba land and all the leaders wanted to achieve with ojukwu was secure international cooperation that would help facilitate the secession.
Let's not forget that the UK was pro one Nigeria while the US was in support of a secession. Germany, France and others were undecided and Awolowo believed that convincing them won't be a biggie.
Ojukwu couldn't hold back and allow his people be exterminated in the name of waiting and wasn't ready for another dialogue because Aburi accord failed this the hasty declaration of an ill fated war.
Once the war was declared, the Yoruba leaders had to make a decision for their people and chose to stay with the Nigerian government and thus we have stories of betrayal branded amongst the Igbo's till date.

From my point of view, it was Ojukwu and Awolowo taking the best decision for their respective people, each of their contribution in history is known to their people.
The parralel of then and now is the fact that not all Igbo leaders supported the option of war, a sizeable number of Igbo leaders then opined that they weren't prepared for war and should rather get Igbo's back home first then attempt dialogue. Just like most Igbo leaders today do not believe in KANU and his Massob.

In conclusion, there can never be a Nigeria of our dreams without a thorough reconciliation with the Ndigbo, a people like that cannot continue to be third class citizens in a country like ours, yes there would always be the fear of the Igbo factor but who cares? We have always had the Hausa Fulani factor and what has it done for us? We had Obasanjo in power for about a decade on and off did it spring up a Yoruba factor??
6 years of a Jonathan presidency didn't trigger an Ijaw factor so why not try the Ndigbo?

It is not lost on me that Igbo politicians are probably the most inept in Nigeria today, no common voice, no plan and no love for their people. The buhari administration has probably given more to the south east than all south east governors since 1999. The Ndigbo needs to come together, forget all sentiments and play the game of politics that would move the region forward. This agitation for Biafra can be achieved if all SE senators and reps decide for Biafra today! But they won't do that. They would rather eat up the constituency allowances, the criminal payments and the juicy contracts and drive to their constituencies in their bullet proof SUVs just like their colleagues from Yoruba land and others.

If these continue unabated, the dream of a strong and developed Nigeria and probably Biafra would remain at best a mirage.

Think strategy, think politics and stop these campaigns of hate, ethnicity and bigotry. We all have faults and blames. A docile citizenry is worse than these looters in power.

Go and read professor Sam Aluko's interview. on why Biafra failed.
Ojukwu personally invited Sam Aluko's and offered him a position of an adviser, all the advises given to Ojukwu by Sam Aluko, how many of them did Ojukwu make use of?.
The only thing that Ojukwu got right was that Igbos needs to be on their own.
They see things differently from others, they believe in the use of force while others believe in dialogue.
History is a bitch, as long as others continue to read, about the role played by Zik, to make sure that secession clause was not included in our constitution, no one will rise to Igbo support.
It is now left for them to fashion out their way of leaving the country or develop their region.

writefreely:
Yoruba's do you think you can handle the fallout when you snatch SE only shot at presidency in like forever because of greed?
I don't belong to any major tribe but it's my oyel money that everybody's sipping.
And from the sidelines, northerners have mostly ruled, Obasanjo and Osibanjo have had Eight years each, and our son had a brief tenure but don't you think it is fair and just to allow an Igbo person the presidency in 2023

This country tire me, if its sharing we are doing let's share it well.
If Yoruba's want to even mention their son, call Adesina Akinwunmi and people wey sabi no be Buhari second, Tinubu we wan hear self... E dey sound like fly for my ear...

Cry me an ocean.

miketayo:
Ask yourself is it right? Whether it started 10 million years ago or not.
We cant get it right if we keep bribing people up and down to develop their own community

See NGO will bring a project, they will frustrate it, wonder why that region is so backward?.
Guhari should concentrate projects where they are needed

RichDad1:
I’m telling you. If only the FG will look our side.

If this happen, Ikorodu will become another money spinner.

hammerT:
BUHARI IS THE CAUSE OF HIS PROBLEM, HE STOPPED THE BRIDGE BACK IN 2015, GIVING EXCUSES THAT COMMUNITY NOT PAID, BUT THOSE COMMUNITIES WERE NOT COMPLAINING.

THEN, WEN HE FELT LIKE, HE STARTED THE PROJECT AGAIN, NOW THE COMMUNITIES ARE COMPLAINING BECOS EARLIER HE PROMISED TO PAY THEM MONEY WEN HE FIRST STOPPED THE PROJECT.

BUHARI WANT THE PROJECT TO GO DOWN IN HISTORY AS SOMETHING HE BUILT RATHER THAN GEJ OR ALLOW THE NEXT PRESIDENT TAKE CREDIT FOR IT.

Cry me a river, GEJ should have complete that project but he was too drunk to think.
So Buhari should just complete the project, so that you people can start wailing on another item.

Qoko:
Blocked head, we are talking about development of a region and talking about ipob and crocodile smile. I swear you need to be sold to Niger republic.

The guy wants FG to apply the use of FORCE, to dissuade those constituting themselves into spanners in the wheel of progress, in that project.

RTSC:
I still don't know why past governments did not target those companies previously in Nigeria that left for Ghana.
Most of them insulted us by still exporting to Nigeria from Ghana.

The moment they left, we should have made it a covert national and regional policy that those companies die a natural death.

9ja got brains, wa gba iyi

Afamed:
Don't be an hypocrite. Every land border is closed including the ones in the North. Listen to Radio and watch TVs news. The border closure has nothing to do with tribe or any religion

Don't mind the guy, he is probably a smuggler.

khalids:
You are still here making noise with all this your useless statistics.
like i told you in an earlier thread

we are happy for you...Ghana is great. So leave us alone, we have closed our border, close your own too, no need for all this long story and explanation.

To be friend no be by force......and when you are done close your Nairaland account and go and open Ghanaland account.

Thank you as you close the door behind you

Ijamba se ole, oni ile ta ji.
Yawa don gas for robber, the owner of the house don wake up.
Man on fire, Nigeria became a laughing stock because our leaders don't even care, thank God every dem don dey soji.
Imagine the noisy neighbor saying we should open our door or else he will do and undo.
That boader will remain shut until all our youths are gainfully employed.
God bless you bro.

franklingud:
Hmmn!!!

Another genocide scheme.

They shall fail woefully in Jesus name.
Amen

You people are terrible, this is why you see shadows.
Na una pray pass, but na una fear pass.
The most paranoid tribe in Nigeria, that petrol tanker accident is not an attack, if it was an attack, it would have happened simultaneously in different states in SE.
If there are good fire service stations around, a lot could have been salvaged.

Area4Area:
They want us to deplete our foreign reserve on cheap imports so that we'll come beg them and world Bank for rescue then they'd start giving us conditions like they did to IBB with SAP that ruined our economy then.
Una try, come back tomorrow

Man we sabi, I dey feel you.
These agent of Satan actually set cornived with some senseless African heads of state to cripple Africa economically.

allthingsgood:
Wait I thot they said Ghana is now the giant of Africa not Nigeria. Lols. Mumu pipo

The thing taya me o.

MrStan11:
This trade war Nigeria is starting eh, nah we go sufferam o.
Not politicians buh local man and local woman.

Naira will loose value against dollar soon just because
1. Hyper-inflation is on the way.
2. Unemployment will increase.
3. Unfavorable economic indices.
4. Debt.
5. Once Trump comes out of this
impeachment saga, watch how dollar
strength would increase.



Nigerians anti atokirina!!!!

Shuke.
Self preservation is sine qua non.

ogbuefi677:
looks like my Abakaliki ppl have gone far in the processing of our own local rice cos I've never seen or tasted stone in ours since I became an adult.
Next time you see the woman ,tell her to go to d nearest mill and destone d rice again with a destoning machine.

Your people are very happy with this development, they are enjoying it.

MetaPhysical:
Take that rice across border, rebag it into sacks in chinese lettering, bring it back in and double the price.....sit down watch as we go rush am.

I love Nigeria

There is this particular rice we call wewe, meaning small rice, the sellers called it agric.
We all thought the rice was an imported rice, the rice is in the market now, na Nigerian rice the OLORIBURUKU smugglers, been dey pack in foreign bags, dey sell as agric rice.
That rice is stone free and sweet die.

Emyogalanya:
When will Buhari interVene or is he only good at doing so in Saudi arabia?

No intervention, when Malaysians traffic drugs to Nigeria, we shall catch them and kill all if them too.

henryobinna:
so communism of all should be chosen in place of capitalism? are you seriously saying this?

have you lived under a communist state before? lots of people whom I've seen lived under such and tried capitalism were never ever singing this your praises. they know better, not a misinformed individual who thinks all is well the other side.

By the way China is not the only communist state in the world... the majority are failures, and China? just chill and watch out... their growth is not by any bullshit communism but by the leverage given to them by the American government some decades ago.. do a little research on that

We are talking China not South Korea, communist government under Mao gave the Chinese people, a new state of mind, and this is why China is a power house today.
Life is NOT about having everything at the expense of others, especially with crude method like we do in this part of the world.
I said it before, that our people are morally and spiritually bankrupt, and can't even think.
People that are well positioned to discourage GREED, are at the for front of the scramble for worldly acquisition.
It is a round table buffet, dragons and lions are standing guards, the system keeps the commoners OUT.
And the commoners who are the victims, are also hoping and praying to rise to the position where they also get to own everything, which is NEVER going to happen as long as the current MOBS are still in charge.
Nigeria may go another way later, but for now I think communism is the way out, which democratically elected government, will rise to set up a communist government?.
The people of this country are in for a long load of hardship until they rise to say a big NO to GREED.
Even if this country is disintegrated and another twenty nation's rise out of her ashes, I don't see anything different happening, the minds are already programmed to acquire, to take and never give anything back.
Just look around you and you will understand what I'm talking about.

hisgrace090:
Its this type of capitalist tendency that leads to 1940/80s chairman Mao cleansing of China that leads to deaths many and births of a prsperouse China.

And Bolshevik revolution in Russia, Nigerians don't know jack, they supported the west to bring down communism, Nigerians have been deceived to believe, that communism is evil but without communism, China with her population and the greed associated with imperialism, there would have been no China today.
China was colonized by the Mongolians for a thousand years, and was later colonized by the British, but just look at China today, now the people of China are proud of their country.
Can Nigeria go the way of China?, our people are too morally and spiritually bankrupt, and we as a people can't even think, it takes a lot of deep thinking by the populace, to agree with a vision of a man like Mao.
Ordinary border closure see how Nigerians are crying, they said locally produced rise are not sweet, the Chinese had no any form of contact with the outside world before the end of communism, except those who are on government mission.
A lot of people died, trying to escape from China, up till now, most Chinese laws are still communist laws, especially corruption, robbery and other money related crimes.

ezenwajosh:
Who ever has a better plan should come up with it and we will support but what you're saying today was what they did UWAZURUIKE...THEY TOLD HIM THERES A WAY YOU DO IT....THAT HE SHOULD WAIT FOR THE RIGHT TIME

Today those who told him all these went to abuja and played out all his plans to federal government and exchange for positions and he was settled

THEY EVEN TOLD OJUKWU TO FORM A POLITICAL PARTY INSTEAD but today its another thing....haven't you noticed the sudden song of unity everywhere... That Nigeria has to be united what do you think made them started speaking more of unity(IPOB) DIPLOMATIC MOVES

THET HAVE PICKED DAVE UMAHI TAKING HIM ON A TRIP, DANGLING HIM AS TGE CHOOSEN ONE SAME WAY THEY DID TINUBU FEW YEARS BACK.

IF WE KNOW HISTORY AND PAY ATTENTION WE WILL UNDERSTAND THAT THE CALIPHATE THINKS NIGERIA IS A GIFT TO THEM FROM ALLAH AND ITS THEIR BIRTH RIGHT TO RULE BYALL MEANS

Nnamdi Azikiwe will be gnashing his teeth wherever he might be, he gave Nigeria to the Caliphate history is beautiful.

Binikingdowm:
Very true

I don't blame south Africa one bit for not wanting Nigerians in their country, we've nothing to offer them except selling and importing drugs, prostitution, trafficking etc. Nigerians turn a developing town into slums and avoid paying taxes.

We scam and disobey orders while we claim we are "smart and wise". We disrespected their country and their value, they can't entertain our behaviour any longer that's why they want Nigerians out.

Nigerians have the worst electricity distribution, no roads,no jobs, schools are bad, government killing us with taxes yet we are defending buhari,obasanjo,okorocha,kalu,oshiohmole,tinubu,jonathan and many other looters.

Well south Africa, Kenya,rwanda and even Ghana now is a lot better than this wasteland called a country, better leave south Africa for sane humans to hold their leaders accountable.

Since Nigerians are cursed and every single country want them out, with all the oil money and vast resources but nothing to show for it.

Guy nonconformists are coming for you.

wirinet:
Even if Nigeria breaks into a thousand pieces, the same problem will still surface. The problem of Nigeria is not necessary the structure or form of government, it's the people. The value system of its people is warped. Nigeria values vanity, greed, avarice, sudden wealth, unmerited rewards instead of integrity, honesty, hard work and merit based reward system.

We have tried parliamentary system, it failed.
We tried military system, it failed.
We tried presidential system, it failed.
We tried military system again, it failed.
We tried presidential system again, it's failing.
So which system shall we try next?

We started out with four region structure, it failed.
We tried a four state unitary system, it fails. ( shouts of marginalisation by minorities abound )
We tried 12 state structure, shouts of marginalisation increased.
We tried 19 state structure, still shout of marginalisation by minorities.
Ditto for 21 state structure.
Now, with a 36 state structure, you will think shouts of marginalisation will cease, but alas it is getting worse. Even the major tribes are now crying marginalisation and not just minority tribes.

So what political structure can we practice without shouts of marginalisation from one tribe or the other.

I am of the opinion that we cannot restructure our political structure without restructuring our value system.

Even if all the current set of leaders are killed, a new set of selfish leaders will rise, to take over.
Average black man fear death, empower everyone to own a gun, the leaders will sit up, they know that if they misbehave, the people will rise to shoot them down.
Only a violent change will solve the problem, the so called leaders in this part of the world, are too selfish.
You think if a police man knew, that the bus driver he wants to harrass and extort could be carrying a gun, would the policeman not think twice?.
Initially, blood will flow but the situation will change.
This is what happened in America, Americans of the era of colonization and slavery are far more greedier and evil, than Nigerians of today.
But look at America today.

budaatum:
I guess each 'country' will put military zones along their border and shoot at one another while raiders pay to cross to come and vandalise and plunder. See India-Pakistan-Bangladesh, or North and South Korea.

If Nigeria breaks up, we will look back on these days as a glorious past!

We in this part of the country will look back and smile, we shall joyfully say good riddance to a bad rubbish.
I'm a westerner,