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LandMann:
Fake News has badly damaged this country.

Freedom is too costly.

Tyranny is much COSTLIER!
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Adejuwon26:
Who will want to die like Agbalumo for one country?

Young Money Tee...
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wirinet:
Once again contract tracing is useless on a highly infectious disease like coronavirus. How many people can you trace? How many people you quarantine if found positive?

How many countries have contact tracing helped in curtailing corona virus spread? South Korea, a model on how to beat corona virus never bothered about contact tracing, they tested everybody that needs testing and started treating infected people immediately.

Nigeria that had only tested less than 200 people is talking about contact tracing. They think corona virus is Ebola or lassa fever.

Please quit spouting things that you have little or no grasp off...
It merely comes across as unlearned, ill-informed or just plain porkies.

The following are some of the MANY articles on how South Korea tackled Covid-19...
And EVERY single article or scholastic piece acknowledge the CRUCIAL role of contact tracing!

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-00740-y
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-51836898
https://capitolfax.com/2020/03/24/swift-action-widespread-testing-and-contact-tracing-helped-south-korea-avoid-draconian-measures/
https://time.com/5804899/u-s-coronavirus-needs-follow-s-korea/
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/23/world/asia/coronavirus-south-korea-flatten-curve.html
https://nationalpost.com/health/covid-19-it-worked-in-asia-the-who-says-its-crucial-but-is-canada-still-using-contact-tracing
https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/03/coronavirus-cases-have-dropped-sharply-south-korea-whats-secret-its-success
https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2020/03/26/821688981/how-south-korea-reigned-in-the-outbreak-without-shutting-everything-down
https://www.wired.co.uk/article/south-korea-coronavirus
https://spectrum.ieee.org/the-human-os/biomedical/ethics/halting-covid19-benefits-risks-digital-contact-tracing
https://www.pharmaceutical-technology.com/features/coronavirus-affected-countries-south-korea-covid-19-outbreak-measures-impact/
https://www.outbreakobservatory.org/outbreakthursday-1/3/19/2020/the-success-of-south-korea
https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-south-korea-spread-daily-case-count-decreases-over-time-2020-3
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wirinet:
Once again contract tracing is useless on a highly infectious disease like coronavirus. How many people can you trace? How many people you quarantine if found positive?

How many countries have contact tracing helped in curtailing corona virus spread? South Korea, a model on how to beat corona virus never bothered about contact tracing, they tested everybody that needs testing and started treating infected people immediately.

Nigeria that had only tested less than 200 people is talking about contact tracing. They think corona virus is Ebola or lassa fever.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ul582kNReZE

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Hopefully, those cars come with coronavirus. Maybe Toyota Corona....
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wirinet:
Contract tracing will not work with a highly infectious disease like coronavirus. Many people who had it never had direct contact with infected person. The disease can be spread by picking it from a sneezing infected person in a crowded space or touching an object recently touched by an infected person. You don't need direct contact to spread it. So how will you trace someone you never met?

You make it sound as if it's the only thing the FG is doing.

Contract tracing is merely ONE tool out of several...
Albeit a CRUCIAL tool - as we cannot efficiently fight infectious disease without contact tracing!

PS: Btw, your comment is IRRELEVANT to my initial comment, which was merely a contextual clarification of the term 'tracing'.
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fergie006:
https://punchng.com/breaking-coronavirus-presidency-begins-fumigation-of-buharis-offices-others/

Was Bubu in the office while it was being fumigated?
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Ecstasy154:
https://www.premiumtimesng.com/coronavirus/384131-coronavirus-fg-tracing-4370-people.html

It's what called CONTACT TRACING...

The FG is NOT looking for these people...
Rather, the FG is keeping track of ("tracing" ) them.
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Maski87:
If the money budgeted for health since 1960 has been used appropriately, there will be no need for
anyone to donate 1billion, and by the way how did he make one billion

You've never heard of the BUA Group?
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rusher14:
Great stuff.

Would have been nice if you had invested these sums in various health centres across the length and breath of this nation.

We don't always need to wait for a crisis to act.

Because he's the government, ba?

He and his companies are paying their taxes....
That's money that the government should use for health centers.

Nigerians are something else...
People undertake philanthropy and they are admonished for it. SMH
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linearity:
The policy in the US, is no symptoms, no testing even in the drive- through centers.

Am leaving in what is currently called the epicenter of the current out break and was driving on GSP today through Middletown that houses one of those centers.....this some of the pictures I took while on high speed.....

The prints are very small, but you should be able to see the bottom of that sign of no symptoms, no test. So States in US are even more restrictive in the drive through, in NY in some, it is no Doctor’s prescription, no testing....in some States, you only get tested if it is determined that your positive test results will change the course of your treatment.

What exactly is your picture supposed to prove?
That ONE single testing center in the 50-state US requires symptoms for testing?

The US is not like Nigeria....
It's a real FEDERAL system, and states makes many of their own public health decisions.
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ebig21:
I'm not eyeing GTB money, I'm just telling you that a company must embark on csr , in the locality which they base and make profit, it's responsibility not obligation

It's neither a responsibility nor an obligation...

The only responsibility and obligation of corporations are taxes...
Corporations (not all btw) VOLUNTARILY elect whether or not to undertake CSR projects.
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ejihand:
Anyone could rent a building and provide (camp) beds. The question is
1. Is this place equipped with ventilators, PEP, etc
2. What about medical personnels?
3. Availability of testing kits nko?

If these basic things are not in place, kindly shut down the damn building. Let everyone sit his/her ass down at home.

Big corporations like this, are the conduit pipes corrupt politicians used to siphon millions of dollars to foreign nation to acquire choiced properties.

Critical health infrastructure have been neglected over the years. They are looking for avenues to safe their face now. Let them continue to open new branches in every nook and cranny of the city without investing in critical medical equipment and supplies. We are in this together.

Uncle Coro doesn't differentiate between the rich and poor, leaders and followers, etc. Everyone is equal in the eyes Corona virus.

What part of "necessary equipment and personnel" was too difficult to understand?
Some Nigerians always looking for the negative. People no do, they complain; people do, they complain. SMH
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A foretaste of Amotekun?
Too many ediots in Nigeria carrying guns.
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linearity:
No country test everyone, even in the US, if you are not showing symptoms, you don’t get tested.

It is false to assume that, Nigeria is testing everyone that shows symptoms, Nigeria does not have the capacity to test everyone that shows symptoms, therefore they are only testing the highly connected and those who make a lot of noise and resides in few of the major city centers.

We have seen community spread in Nigeria as a result, there should have been testing centers in all the states if not LGAs.

Nope, you can get tested in the US w/out symptoms in those so-called "drive-through" test centers set up in some states...
Meanwhile, Nigeria tests only those with symptoms and trace contacts (which was why the "highly connected" at Aso Rock were tested).
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linearity:
Nigeria’s case is hugely under estimated.

One of the major issue is our limited testing capacity, since the start of testing in Nigeria; we have only been able to test less than 200 people and 50 of those are positive, which is scary because that is like 25% positive for every test.

Whereas South Africa have done about 20,000 test, with about 700 positive, which is like 4%.

The US have done about 420,000 tests with about 69,000 positive, which is like 16%.

So, Nigeria’s case should be close to what is been reported in the US.

Obviously because Nigeria is testing only (1) persons returning from high-risk countries, and (2) showing symptoms of COVID-19...
It will NECESSARILY have a higher percentage of positives than if we were just randomly testing everyone who wanted a test for peace of mind.
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linearity:
Nigeria’s case is hugely under estimated.

One of the major issue is our limited testing capacity, since the start of testing in Nigeria; we have only been able to test less than 200 people and 50 of those are positive, which is scary because that is like 25% positive for every test.

Whereas South Africa have done about 20,000 test, with about 700 positive, which is like 4%.

The US have done about 420,000 tests with about 69,000 positive, which is like 16%.

So, Nigeria’s case should be close to what is been reported in the US.

NO country on earth has the capacity to test everyone...
Not just the testing equipment but the needed reagents are obviously in acute demand worldwide at this time.

Accordingly, each country necessarily PRIORITIZES who gets tested...
In Nigeria's case, those already showing symptoms go directly to the front of the line.

Ultimately, COVID-19 is a virus, with a 2-week lifespan...
Thus, even with limited testing capacity, self-isolation and social distance should flatten the curve and then break the infection chain.
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Chamber2000:
www.nairaland.com/attachments/11260464_et9qjpwuwaer6pk_jpeg_jpeg8d7be78f38199b98d7d401d1d33b9656

This is actually an IMPROVEMENT...
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Realist1:
We should all try to stay indoors as much as possible.I think that is the only way and best chance not to get infected.My only fear is Lagos is too overcrowded no good spaces between houses. Your neighbour can just sneeze now the next minute the aerosol droplets are already in your room then your fan will now circulate it properly.

Maybe I will be alternating which window to open or close as the wind flow and direction dictates.Too much straight wind flow from one window I close it completely or shut it almost fully and allow the one with the normal wind flow open.

See as my mind dey go far .Chai! Coro e nor go better for you.

The good thing is that the virus is NOT airborne...
Unless your neighbors have super-projectile droplets, you will be safe if there's a 6-feet distance.
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ivolt:
No.
It kills about 1 to 5% the majority of which are old and fragile.
It will be the beginning of a new era, not the end.

It may continue for up to 24 months since there are many "healthy carriers".

That's why EVERYONE is advised to behave as if they are infected...
If almost EVERYONE self-isolates and social distances, even if "healthy carriers" will be rid of the virus in 14 days.
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Ishilove:
Okay. Did all these travellers return before the airport lockdown or is there a way they're getting in we are unaware of?

You can be infected but have NO symptoms when you arrive...
That's why the NCDC are requesting SELF-ISOLATION for all arrivees.
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etibaba:
The numbers will definitely increase, it's not rocket science due to the nature of the window period of the virus and the issue of "Healthy carriers" more testing equipment will be required to really ascertain the level spread that has occurred. We will overcome this trying times.

Emmyrichboy:
Every time returning travelers, thought they shut the borders infact let them start showing us the people, because this country is a huge joke.
In lagos i strongly believe its over 2000 unknown to even the carriers

Sijo01:
This shiit is spreading o.
Lord hear the cry of your children. Forgive us our sins and heal the land.

brainworkng:
Oh God this is getting real in Nigeria. Lord heal the world.

While COVID-19 is a novel (new) coronavirus...
Thus far it shows the same lifespan as with other coronaviruses (flu, etc.).

The medical evidence so far is that, unless a person has underlying health issues, the COVID-19 generally has a 14-day (or less) lifespan. Accordingly, A 3-WEEK COMMUNITY-BASED SELF-ISOLATION AND SOCIAL-DISTANCING SHOULD BREAK THE CHAIN OF INFECTION! Even in those who have the virus but are asymptomatic (that is, not showing any symptoms), the virus will work its way out of the system in about 14 days or less (again, unless there are other underlying health issues). Furthermore, the OVERWHELMING MAJORITY of confirmed cases (about 80%) will recover and many confirmed cases will only have mild symptoms. It's a virus, but the greatest danger with COVID-19 has been the high and fast rate of infection, which raises the danger that many cases at the same time will overwhelm the healthcare system with sheer numbers.

The evidence thus far is that COVID-19 might well be around for a while...
But the best way to break the chain of infection and to flatten the curve (of the rate of infection) is SELF-ISOLATION and SOCIAL DISTANCING..

Therefore, this is NOT going to be a case of "government this, politicians that"...
This time EVERYONE has a role to play, and our COLLECTIVE conduct will determine COVID-19's impact on Nigeria! Good luck to us all!
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grandstar:
I won't be surprised if it's 10 times that number.

As much as we dislike Trump, if the Roche anti-Corona vaccine works, it will be fantastic. I think a race should be on to find simple effective treatments and also preventive measures.

I believe a prize of $20m should be given to anyone who finds a simple effective cure. With such a prize, a cure will be found within 6months.

There's little or NOTHING Trump can do to speed up a vaccine - and any vaccine is MANY MONTHS away at best...
There's a reason for a deliberate clinical trial process - or we might end up with what Pfizer unleashed with its meningitis drugs in Kano a while ago.
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Kekekenny:
We all know the Covid-19 cases in naija are more than ds figures. Carefully releasing it not to create panic. We are aware of 15 new cases from Gbagada .But let me stop here. God is in control already

Figures announced EVERYWHERE in the world are obviously less than actual cases...
Not only because many are asymptomatic, but because the only way to get accurate figures is to test EVERYONE - which is impossible..
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EVERY country (apart from arguably China) is suffering from PPE shortages - even the US...
Under the circumstances, these gear is needed only for those treating coronavirus cases (or suspected cases).
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Mr. President, they go vote you out of office o...
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RIP...

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All I see there are ADULTS...
Are they waiting for the bank to tell them what to do?

#TakeResponsibility
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mekaboy:
See how close people are standing.

www.nairaland.com/attachments/11255804_20200324161543_jpeg7280fd275abe2333284e2b0061e97285

Racoon:
Correct! Our leaders failed to take care of the common man now they're all trapped.Well, whatever goes around also comes around. Coronavirus is no respecter of any person.God save the world.

And where would they have gone? Italy? Spain?
Good to do so but taking care of the common man is not saving anyone from Covid-19.

Good luck to everyone.
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Yenefer:
u think they can't do that wake up.

You are one that needs to "wake up" if you believe they did that...
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