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Nigeria is probably the only place in the world that a political officeholder actually videotaped stuffing bribe money into his pockets - on several different occasions - will not only be left to continue presiding over the affairs of other citizens, but would get re-elected (or rigged in), and have the chutzpah to dismiss and seek to banish (in a supposed democracy in the 21st century) someone, and still receive applause and support.

WHAT A PRIMITIVE ZOO!
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RichBoy247:
Good. That is the best the short Jihadist can do. Create new Emirates for the pedophile Sanusi in Kaduna, Southern Kaduna to be precise. Sanusi Lamido is in stage one of the five stages of humiliation he will go through before he finally goes six feet under the soil.

Ex-staff of Oceanic, Intercontinental, Bank PHB, Afrubank and others are cursing Sanusi everyday and every night

They should be cursing the folks who used those banks (and our money deposited in them) as their piggy banks...smh
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Donaldoni:
@9jarealist

I was enjoying that debate. But antispam bot keeps banning me from the thread.

I thought it was because of the links in my post until I got banned again after I posted without links.

I hope we can continue on the thread when the ban is over.

Sorry to hear that...
I never tire of rigorous discourse. See you some other time.
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Davash222:
Automatically, she’s now a Nigerian feminist!

Nairaland feminists, welcome your new recruit.

There are many roads to paradise...
Whatever brings someone to the light (of feminism) is welcome!
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Anambralstson:
www.nairaland.com/attachments/11219693_fbimg1584456247365_jpeg9147501b01b9d257c4e5a0404a80609d

Abegi, they should try and pug guard rails there...
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Blue3k:
If you your mother is not a Nigerian rent seek? Who are you referring to then your father or siblings?

Will continue to decline to join you in the gutter of family insults...
It not only betrays your unsurprising lack of substance, but is ironically a poor reflection of your own family and the upbringing your suffered.
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Blue3k:
Lol you dont know these exports are pennies compared to other things Nigeria exports? In Niger Republics case it's less than tobacco. These exports to chump change Nigeria gets with other non oil exports. If Nigeria stopped wasting billions your ideas would be implemented faster. This walking over dollars to pick up pennies.

Zamfara is the poorest state with the smallest economy. I don't know how zamfara provides to Federation account.

This dude keeps posting information that’s self-damaging...

Your own chart shows that electricity exports just to one country is the third-largest export item to that country...
But you’d rather we keep that electricity “stranded” (since we cannot distribute it), because you don’t know the value of an honest dollar? SMH
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sanpipita:
Seems the sister of the dead guy is desperate to hang this on Dozie Jnr, an autopsy will try end this impending madness

doggedfighter:
Looks like the sister has something against Dozie before now with the way she is talking.

Doesn’t really matter what her ‘motive’ is (if any)...
As the first commenter said, an autopsy is called for.
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gypsey:
Mmm... one wonders why he didn't klll the boy within that 16 years, then again, it's possible for people to fall out and become enemies after been aquinted for 16 years. trust me, i know. my step brother i ve known for more than 30 years had recently threathned to kill me over money and properties dispute, my money and properties.

People who are married for years have killed their spouses...
Kids who have been raised and taken care of until adulthood have killed their parents.

There are many realities of life that appear irrational on its face...
But generally I am troubled by the often quasi-slavery or servitude relationships that often pervade Nigeria.
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Officialgarri:
This what happens to bread winners of a family. Mr Dozie couldn't satisfy the needs of everyone in his family and so when the young guy died, the ungrateful sister needed to indict Mr. Dozie.
She refused to acknowledge the fact that the deceased had lived with that same "wicked" man for 16 years

OROSUNBOLB:
Spot on! This is one of the reasons why some people ,like my humble self, don't usually want to have anything to do with these extended family members. Now they want to pin the unfortunate death of that young man on his benefactor,the same man that had taken care of him for over thirteen years ! Aye le o !

May his soul rest in peace.

We do not know the facts (and perhaps should all wait for same)...
But, as a general principle, taking care of someone does not accord anyone a license to abuse or kill.

May the dead RIP.
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Blue3k:
Compared to billions the country is spending on fuel subsidy and defending currency yes. It's tiny compared to other imports Nigeria has. I agree it's a good chunk of change.

Lol you must be talking about your rent seeking mother.

NBS electricity exports data.
Benin Republic electricity exports: 
2016: 22,837,248,612.40
2017: 25,905,582,963.6
2018: 30,673,446,313.68
2019 Q1: 8,000,015,624.00

Niger Republic electrity exports:
2016: N6,474,560,157.81
2017: N8,376,834,776.72
2018: N9,745,275,417.55
2019: Q1 N2,243,558,858.50

You do know the difference between imports and exports?

Meanwhile, your President is looking to take several much smaller amounts in foreign loans as part of his recent loan request. SMH
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Blue3k:
Compared to billions the country is spending on fuel subsidy and defending currency yes. It's tiny compared to other imports Nigeria has. I agree it's a good chunk of change.

Lol you must be talking about your rent seeking mother.

NBS electricity exports data.
Benin Republic electricity exports: 
2016: 22,837,248,612.40
2017: 25,905,582,963.6
2018: 30,673,446,313.68
2019 Q1: 8,000,015,624.00

Niger Republic electrity exports:
2016: N6,474,560,157.81
2017: N8,376,834,776.72
2018: N9,745,275,417.55
2019: Q1 N2,243,558,858.50

Hang on to that Strawman...

I will ignore the childish insult directed at my family...
It merely betrays a lack of substance and a crude personal upbringing. SMH
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Blue3k:
The tiny amounts of hard currency you're salivating over from these nations wont achieve your goal. If Nigeria stop wasting cash on fuel subsidy and defending currency with billions of dollars in hard currency it would achieve the same result. Supplying power to Nigerians wont stop Nigeria from achieving goal. As we agree Nigeria can walk and chew gum.

Next excuse.

Benin Republic electricity exports:
2016: 22,837,248,612.40
2017: 25,905,582,963.6
2018: 30,673,446,313.68
2019 Q1: 8,000,015,624.00

Niger Republic electrity exports:
2016: N6,474,560,157.81
2017: N8,376,834,776.72
2018: N9,745,275,417.55
2019: Q1 N2,243,558,858.50

Not sure why this dude keeps editing his posts after response - to add even more self-defeating information...

Even merely looking at the numbers that you posted...
That’s about $130 million from Benin Rep and Niger in 2018 (excluding Togo).

How much are you getting from places like Zamfara State? SMH
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Blue3k:
Lol you're walking over dollars to pick up pennies. I agree every bit helps which why you dont waste what you already have. That's jow you achieve goals faster.

Next excuse.

Yes, just about $100 million (N30 billion at official rate) is “pennies”...

Nigerian rent-seekers will never know what it means to earn an honest dollar! SMH
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Mike008:
I have said this countless times and even garnished it with some expert opinions on how not to spread the virus yet nobody said anything.
But because Tiwa Savage said it casually, BOOM! It's news and see how it made me FTC.

Please nobody should hack my FTC

P.S. God please heal our land of this disease.

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Blue3k:
The tiny amounts of hard currency you're salivating over from these nations wont achieve your goal. If Nigeria stop wasting cash on fuel subsidy and defending currency with billions of dollars in hard currency it would achieve the same result. Supplying power to Nigerians wont stop Nigeria from achieving goal. As we agree Nigeria can walk and chew gum.

Next excuse.

I must have a lot of spare time today, because I am here actually attempting to enlighten someone who actually think that a country that cannot domestically distribute all of the electricity it generates and transmits would be better off just adding to its so-called “stranded” electricity (that us, generable power that is not evacuated or distributed) rather than exporting some and earning even if small amounts of valuable forex. SMH

Too many Nigerians have never had to earn an honest living.
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Blue3k:
The tiny amounts of hard currency you're salivating over from these nations wont achieve your goal. If Nigeria stop wasting cash on fuel subsidy and defending currency with billions of dollars in hard currency it would achieve the same result. Supplying power to Nigerians wont stop Nigeria from achieving goal. As we agree Nigeria can walk and chew gum.


Next excuse.

Talk about the classic Strawman Argument...

Meanwhile, it takes droplets to add up to a flood...
Every bit of forex helps. If you have ever honestly earned money, you would know. SMH
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oluwaseyi000:
Congratulations � to Liverpool

Some people are campaigning for the negation the entire 2019/20 season...

And if the season is not ultimately concluded...
Liverpool’s ‘championship’ will always come with an asterisk. LMAO
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INCREASINGLY LOOKING LIKE LIFE WITHOUT LIVE FOOTBALL UNTIL AT LEAST THE FALL (AUTUMN)....

Would not be surprised if the 2020 Tokyo Olympics turns out to be the next to be shifted. SMH
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Blue3k:
I can edit my post. You cant refute my facts. Again tag everyone in the thread so everyone can hear your lies. Your hard currency excuse doesn't cut it either. Nigeria could benefit more simply supplying power to Nigerians.

Before you repost more unintelligible gibberish...
As we have now understood your limited capacity for basic comprehension.

Nigeria reportedly has a nominal (theoretical) installed generation capacity of 13.5K MW of on-grid power, but it only have a generating capacity of about 7K MW of readily-evacuatable on-grid power. Further, Nigeria reportedly has a nominal transmission capacity of about 5-6K MW of on-grid power but has on average only been able to transmit in the region of 3-4K MW of power. Meanwhile, the DISCOs are usually able to take on average about 2-3K MW (the highest-ever reportedly being about 4K) from the transmission company (TCN). Accordingly, SELLING power to our neighbors is not why we do not have enough to go around domestically.

But know what we need to invest in needed generation, transmission and distribution upgrade badly needed in Nigeria: HARD CURRENCY!
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Blue3k:
I can edit my post. You cant refute my facts. Again tag everyone in the thread so everyone can hear your lies. Your hard currency excuse doesn't cut it either. Nigeria could benefit more simply supplying power to Nigerians.

Yet more unintelligible gibberish...

Nigeria can proverbially chew gum and walk at the same time...
Earning forex from electricity exports is NOT mutually-exclusive with supplying power to Nigerians. SMH
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Blue3k:
Repeating your lies to anyone who swallows them is your mission in life? Lol the agreement is not an exuse in Niger Republics case.

Tag everyone in the thread so they all know hear.

While repeating unintelligible gibberish is apparently your own mission in life?
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Blue3k:
Lol you're maybe your not playing dumb afterall. Take your time you'll eventually figure it out. You lied claiming the agreement is what forces Nigeria to sell power. The agreement is no longer a factor since they're violating every term of it. That excuse no longer makes sense.

If Nigeria wants to cut them off to supply Nigerians they do so. They simply dont wish to at this time.

Well, the way you keep regurgitating and reposting the same gibberish, your EXPERTISE is undoubted...

9jaRealist:
These agreements were made in the 1970s and 1980s when Nigeria had only 1 thermal and more than half of our power came from Kainji...
Accordingly, it is not rational to bemoan that we are supplying electricity to our neighbors without first satisfying our own domestic demand.

Furthermore, as I noted, these payments are made in HARD CURRENCY (and likely at more commercial rates than Nigerian domestic tariffs).
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Perfecttouchade:
Yet we dey suffer electricity....no impact of independence at all since we decided to celebrate and support selfish greedy leaders ...so make we go hold them to pay ?

NairaMaster1:
And the didn't cut their lights but Musa will rush to cut our own over 2000 naira here

TGMISKY:
So we can give other countries light without cutting their wire for a year if they are owing? I just owed for 3 weeks and they cut my line. My kidney is paining me

omolakaka:
NEPA go dey ginger to cut my light because of #2,500 oya mk dem go cut light for Niger ,Benin and Togo.useless people

Kennitrust:
And we no get peace for owing 1k here in our own country...

Ghostmode2two:
Will the electricity workers disconnect these 3 countries and fold their wire. Nonsense people

zizzyblog:
We give them electricity but we don’t have... Is Nigerian government not amazing ? Good day sir

Charly68:
Foreigners are owing up to that figure and you are mounting tariff pressure on the citizens..! These people are very wicked ,why not go and recover the debt from the two nations

WILLuKPquiet:
Why sell electricity when we don't have enough

Jamorezzi:
None of my business, because even we the sharers of electricity cant even enjoy it .

ugbarreta:
God punish all these useless leaders we have here! They r supplying energy to international customers 247 light and are depriving us even 3hrs light everyday and when we refuse to pay, they'll will carry their ladder and disconnect us. That is why Nigeria is a perpetual under developed country. Hunger virus is killing us why we have the most expensive useless parliament, that are brain dead. Nonsense

ugbarreta:
God punish all these useless leaders we have here! They r supplying energy to international customers 247 light and are depriving us even 3hrs light everyday and when we refuse to pay, they'll will carry their ladder and disconnect us. That is why Nigeria is a perpetual under developed country. Hunger virus is killing us why we have the most expensive useless parliament, that are brain dead. Nonsense

gaskiyamagana:
Nawa for naija fefu. Useless government, useless policy makers. Courtesy of corruption, they love their neighbours more than themselves.

enemyofprogress:
We dey do father Christmas when people at home are suffering

Hades2016:
We give them electricity but we don’t have... Is Nigerian government not amazing ?

Gundel001:
our country is doing power charity for another country vwhen it citizen are yet to even benefit from the power

JVector:
And we still put them on priority grid to own detriment.

Farki:
This thing had started long before Buhari. Right from the time of Obasanjo we have been selling our power to neighbouring countries and there have been complaints about payments.

Thecvbankng:
You haven't ensured stable electricity supply to your citizenry and businesses but you're selling to neighbouring countries. Naija sef

Emerihx:
Why would Nigeria give these countries electricity when we haven't settled our own

gbemmyjoseph:
They enjoy what we give them than we the owner.

seedorfg:
Imagine even we that give electricity don't have not to talk of stable power.

These neighboring countries pay for the electricity that they get from us in HARD CURRENCY (and probably at more commercial rates), which is probably why they are struggling to pay. But, over the years, they have ultimately settled their respective bills (albeit sometimes only after we threaten to disrupt supply and/or cut them off).

Nonetheless, this arrangement is not a charitable one but rather strategic. It is basically an agreement by Nigeria to supply electricity to some of these neighbors in exchange for an agreement by them not to dam the River Niger upstream, which would adversely affect some of our hydro plants (at a time that Kainji was our main source of electric power).

Personally, I am all for keeping these arrangements going. Nigeria has more than enough energy resources to not only fully electrify itself but to export electricity, thereby further diversifying our sources of revenue and earning more forex.
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Blue3k:
Dont play dumb. Your excuse to why is false. Nigeria has no to obligation since they're not keep their end of the aggreement. They haven't paid bills and they're building a dam. Nigeria is simply doing this because they feel it's economically beneficial to supply them.

@9jaRealist edit post

Rather rich from someone who just edited his own post to add that...

Dude, I merely modified my post to add the parenthetical part soliciting that you comprehend before comment, as you seem to be laboring under an increasingly considerable basic comprehension deficit. If you don’t understand, it’s okay to say so or simply do not comment. Cheers.
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Blue3k:
Dont play dumb. Your excuse to why is false. Nigeria has no to obligation since they're not keep their end of the aggreement. They haven't paid bills and they're building a dam. Nigeria is simply doing this because they feel it's economically beneficial to supply them.

@9jaRealist edit post

Perhaps because I just don’t understand gibberish...
But don’t get the point that you are struggling to make by reposting and highlighting a post that merely reaffirms what I wrote. SMH
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Obiaksnews:
The electricity problem in Nigeria would continue to linger except the operators start seeing the provision of such basic amenity as a service to the people rather than a favor to the people, the companies in-charge prioritize their services to high cashment areas while leaving areas without much economic activities to darkness even when they are willing to pay.

It is NOT a “service”....
But an economic GOOD that costs lots of money to generate, transmit and distribute.

Until Nigerians quit seeing electricity as something owed to them and start paying for it, we will remain doomed to darkness...
Irony is that folks who do not want to pay cost-reflective tariffs to DISCOs will freely spend LOTS MORE money on gens and diesel. Penny wise.
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Blue3k:
They're free to break agreements because it made in the 1970s. Lol was that written in the agreement? They clearly not paying up as you see with that debt.

Not sure I am getting your point...
But can clearly see that you badly fail to understand my post (even on NL, it still pays to comprehend before comment).

Of course, one can always terminate or revise agreements as conditions warrant or change...
But I fail to see how that vitiates my clarification to those commenters wondering why we supply electricity to our neighbors. SMH
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Bluffly:
One of our problem is distribution facility. The DF we have are in shambles hence most time Discos reject from Gencos. If Discos are serious they should look into their distribution facilities so they can take more from Gencos and thereby making more profit

If NERC allowed them to charge cost-reflective tariffs, and frankly so many people stop stealing electricity, and the government MDAs and the military, police and uniformed services pay their bills, then perhaps the DISCOs will have the resources to invest (or the balance sheet to secure debt capital) to upgrade their distribution facilities. Even the local akara seller doesn’t sell her akara for less than the beans and oil cost.
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Blue3k:
Stop making that exuse. Niger Republic is building a dam on the river Niger.

These agreements were made in the 1970s and 1980s when Nigeria had only 1 thermal and more than half of our power came from Kainji...
Accordingly, it is not rational to bemoan that we are supplying electricity to our neighbors without first satisfying our own domestic demand.

Furthermore, as I noted, these payments are made in HARD CURRENCY (and likely at more commercial rates than Nigerian domestic tariffs).
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Avalancheman:
Until the SUPERFLUOUS provisions are deleted, 11 remains the age of consent...

No, it does NOT...
Because it is NOT the only age of consent.

11 years, 15 years and 18 years or less are provided in the SAME law...
Thus, it’s akin to saying “18 remains the law of consent” (which is even more correct, as 18 or less includes 11).

Nevertheless, this discussion is substantively IRRELEVANT to the case here...
Because Lagos State law under which dude will be charged is UNAMBIGUOUS!
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Blue3k:
Stop making that exuse. Niger Republic is building a dam on the river Niger.

Olumyco:
There are many ways to generate electricity. In Nigeria we generate our electricity majorly using thermal and hydro.

Thermal Power Plants across the nation are more than hydro power plants and the aggregate power output generated is more than hydro power plants. So we don't have much problem. We supply them based on business purposes. To build a power plant for a nation comes with high cost so these small countries have to look for a way to buy at cheaper rate from another country.

These agreements have reportedly been in place since the 1970s and 1980s, before Nigeria started building a lot of thermal plants...
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