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Their money, their problem. Let's look at it from another angle, it's business opportunity for the wine makers. The more yahoo boys and slay mamas, the bigger the profit, stupidity can be a curse and a blessing

This election would have been so simple if PDP did not choose Atiku, if only they had the guts to bring in a fresh face with a strong pedigree. Unfortunately by choosing Atiku, Nigerians are faced with either not voting or voting for Sowore, both scenarios greatly harms Atiku and favors the incumbent. We can all shout and act as internet warriors but most are still yet to see the gravity of the situation, it's a LOSE-LOSE deal for the Nigerian people!

You don't even have to set foot in Nigeria, if you are willing to spend a bit, you'll get a divorce certificate in less than a month. Like others have said get a lawyer, get photos of you and your soon to be former husband. Get witnesses to write a notarized letter attesting to the marriage. Within a month you're done!

Eyinjuege2:
The purpose of the schools is to provide quality education and raise productive members of the society who can easily tackle the challenges our society faces.
There is no non profit school anywhere. Good education costs money, simple as ABC.
Dropping 200K to finance the building of the project doesn't mean you deserve to send your children free to those schools. The building of the school is the cheapest part of the whole deal. They have recurring expenses. What is the purpose of a huge hospital building without competent staff, constant light, consumables and a host of other things, training facilities for staff etc. This is just an example and its comparable to schools.
Of what use is a big school without professors and research facilities? Isn't that just a play center?
I'm very impressed with some private unis like CU and Babcock and proud of their achievements. I don't support their admitting every member's child, as standard will definitely fall cos it's not sustainable.
In the UK, average uni tuition for their citizens is 8K per session. They graduate from uni heavily laden with debts. Many of their children don't bother going to uni anymore as they dont even get jobs, and are still in debts. They rather go for apprenticeship, and their society is still functioning well.
Other than stem courses and a few others, a lot of uni degrees are useless. Harsh, but true.

A lot of what you wrote is just plain fallacy! I don't know about UK but in the U.S we have grants, scholarships and so on meant for specific children or spouse of certain organizations or employees of the universities. You'll find such grants mostly in non profit schools so I don't know what you're saying when you assert that there is no such thing as a non profit school. Now let's go back to the religious realm, I find it ridiculous thatbeing an active member of a church does not grant any benefit or discount when it comes to your children attending the schools built by the church. No one ever said free tuition but it should not cost an arm and leg for members of the church, to think otherwise is just plain greed. I know as Nigerians we often like to make sense when we are talking nonsense but the church itself does not pay tax, it is seen as a non profit religious organization surviving on donations, offerings and tithes from members, so it baffles me when such offerings and tithes are good enough to fund church buildings and raise finances for the church whenever it needs it but are not good enough to afford members certain discounts in school tuition....once again this is RIDICULOUS!

This is rubbish, does this guy not have better things to discuss, like the emancipation of the Biafrian peoeple? Just saying

am4truth:
You missed it completely. It is obvious you have a biased mind towards the truth. You don't know God that is why the bible looks like a storybook to you. Everybody pays tithes, but whom you pay it to makes the difference. I pay mine through His church to my God. Keep your money and keep spending for Satan in the form of sicknesses, court cases, unexplainable loses, etc.

Face your government. Hold them accountable and leave Christ church alone.

No one is stopping you from paying tithes, by all means please do but don't spread rubbish saying your successful is directly related to the tithes you pay and that God operates a tit for that system. I have never paid tithe and I'm well versed in the Bible. I've achieved more in 5 years than many will achieve in their lifetime so your theory is RIDICULOUS!

Eyinjuege2:
There's no free lunch in Freetown my bro. You shouldn't expect your 3/4 children to go to a school of yearly 600k tuition while paying a tithe of 5k monthly, as you'll need to pay 5k monthly for 10 years to meet a year's tuition. The maths doesn't add up. Keep your money, and eat good food
We know what happened to missionary schools when it became public handled by the govt. They were almost run down.
Some others pay that 600k as tithe in these same churches, and their children go to these same schools without any complaint.
I have a close friend who has never paid tithes, yet very upset he cannot send his child to these private schools, and also screaming these schools shouldnt be expensive. He's not even a member of their church sef. I couldn't understand where he was coming from.
I'm sure he would have joined the church, just to partake of the largesse of free quality education if it were free. So would a lot of others.

What's the purpose of the school? Is it for profit or non profit? These questions will help you decipher my train of thoughts. Your example of 5k is simplicity at its finest but even at that, those little amounts contributed to the completion of those shools, it just sounds silly that those same members could not derive any benefit from it, as for the friend you mentioned, his case is an anomaly.

Eyinjuege2:
Even psychiatrists in Nigeria aknowlege the hope and peace religion brings.
There's a reason Nigerians are one of the happiest and hopeful people, despite the many challenges.
You will never hear me condemning the way anyone chooses to practice their religion. It is afterall a lifestyle choice. I can't condemn you for going clubbing, so why should I condemn you for going to pray?

Put a human in jail for 20 years and compare him or her to someone that is only allowed to go outside on weekends, naturally the person that gets to go outside would likely be happier. Now compare that person to someone that can go outside any time any day. This is the meaning of Nigerians happiness. When you see people paying tithes yet they owe house rent, they owe children's school fees, they live in face me face you while their pastors and G.O. live in mansions, it is not condemnation to advice such a person. Telling people they'll prosper by paying tithes yet their children cannot afford to go to the school you built, is that logical? Churches are running ponzi schemes and we all sit back and smile. COMEDY!

Onliie:
Good does not operate like the government. How did you think the government came to be?

The government came from human innovation(Dictatorship, Royals, Democracy, Communism etc), God never gave a commandment to rule other humans, he just said "be", how you choose to be is up to you....lol

KunmiRoxitaLTD:
THE CHURCH IS NOT YOUR PROBLEM!
By Hadizat Ibrahim

From my salary, I pay about 15% as tax to the government monthly.
When I make certain purchases, stay over in hotels, make flight bookings, shop for groceries, I still pay taxes - consumption tax, VAT, state tax...

Most Nigerians I know pay tax.

And we don’t even have a say on most of these taxes - they are either deducted from source or they are simply not optional.
Yet, I can’t say my life has improved significantly in comparison to my tax deductions and that of million others.
Light - we still don’t get 24 hour power supply.
Highways - the roads are a nightmare.
Security - still not guaranteed.
Public Healthcare - mostly inefficient.
Public Education - mostly poor.

But I pay tithe...voluntarily.
A minimum of 10% of my income.
I pay offering...voluntarily.
Nobody forced me to pay these.
I give to Kingdom projects.
My church decides to build an edifice that I am proud of...fully complete with AC, waste disposal system, public toilets and other things my government can’t even seem to get right (even at airports - our gateway to the nation!)

My church builds a worship center where I am free from distractions and I can communicate freely with God.

I don’t pay for anointing services that expand my territory; for communion services that perfect my healing and activate my consciousness for eternal life; for worship programmes that take me to the ThroneRoom of the Master; or for prayer sessions that unlock the mysteries of life and the Kingdom.

No, I don’t pay for illumination or direction in any area of my life...Jesus is the LIGHT...as taught in my Church from the Bible.
I am not confused about direction or purpose...Jesus is the WAY!
My health is intact and when I have a scare and I need someone to pray with/for me...my Pastor gladly steps up and takes authority...charging nothing...because God wishes above all things that I be in health.
I have enjoyed covenant security at no cost.

Week in, week out, God (through the Church and my Pastors) blesses me...yet my government fails me at every turn!

Dear Activist,

What exactly have you done to hold government accountable for the taxes they receive but can’t fix the basics of standard living?

Yet, you are convinced that you have a moral right to complain about church edifices that members gladly contributed to erect?

Focus, my friend.
The Church is not your problem!
Authored by no
Hadizat Jesulayoayemi Ibrahim

Faulty reasoning! Do you pay your tithes in expectation of tangible rewards? Tithes was never a guarantee towards upliftment or making heaven, it was never meant as a gate pass towards all the good things in life. God does not operate like the government, he is not tied down by elected bureaucracy. You pay taxes because it is dictated by the government, the benefits you reap from paying taxes should be the same as everyone who pays his or her taxes but tithing does not work that way. You pay tithes and you attribute the tangible rewards to it, does it mean those who pay taxes and are still living in poverty cursed? Are they serving a different God? If paying tithes=rewards, shouldn't it be the same reward for everyone? I mean when we look at your write-up critically it just does not make sense, the relationship between your cause and effect is weak!

The rate at which people commit suicide nowadays is astonishing. Funny enough most people commit suicide over frivolous things such as losing a job, a loved one or being mocked. There was a time when I used to beg my friends for 20 Naira so I could buy fish for garri, there was a time when 50k was like a million Naira to me and a time when 1 million Naira made me feel like Dangote. Nowadays I've made hundreds of millions and I've come to appreciate the little things in life, like good health, a supportive friend or family member and safe flights to and from my destinations. I've learned that those without shoes would cry until they see those with one leg, those with one leg would cry until they see those without legs, those without legs would cry until they meet someone who is blind and someone that is blind would cry until he or she learns that a loved one or friend is no more....Perspective is the key to happiness, insead of being depressed about what you don't have, be excited about the little you do have!

tstx:
See Backward reasoning.. How is it our concern how someone chooses to live his/her life... Does it affect us in any way?? ....

Our mentality still have a long way to go
....
The Catholic Church wey no recognize homosexuality in any way still holds that LGBT people must be accepted with respect, compassion, and sensitivity, and every sign of unjust discrimination in their regard should be avoided.

It doesn't mk sense to judge someone based on the way they've chosen to live their life especially when it doesn't affect you in any way.





Bro.. Please look at this from my perspective.. Killing my son affects me directly raping my sister affects me directly, a president stealing funds affects not just me but the entire masses directly, Someone selling counterfeit drugs affects me directly... Now the question is how does two ladies deciding that they want to be together, how does that affect me? Also how does it affect you? How does it affect the next man? Or the next woman? If you apply just small reasoning into this you will see that it doesn't concern us honestly...

That God frowns on it doesn't mean we should lynch them to death, afterall God also frowns on fornication but you don't see people lynching fornicators to death...

Your reasoning is flawed, let's look at a society like the U.S., since the late 1970s the amount of homosexuals have increased times 50, the more acceptable the society becomes, the more young and otherwise naive children would feel it is an acceptable lifestyle. Just like smoking, drugs, having premarital sex and so on, these behaviors are easily tansferred from one person to another. Now how does it affect me, imagine raising your children in an environment that encourages homosexuality and yet your faith is against it, how do you balance the equation? Now add that factor into an environment like Nigeria where poverty reigns supreme, how easy is it for one wealthy person to influence certain boys or girls into such lifestyle. We all like to talk about equal rights, rights to be gay and so on but it comes at a price, the whites do not want to admit this but the evidence is clear!

Atiku, why you no settle this woman na, which kind wahala be dis, person wey don promise us Biafra via due process....Chai

Guy you were ineffective, inefficient, clueless and overall a scapegoat of your inability to stand up to the cabals within your own government. Nigerians thought Buhari was the way out but alas we have seen him to be more of the same. He is all the things I've described aboove and more, he is plain out of touch with reaality and some might even call him WICKED! I believe old age and limited education is contributing to his ineffectiveness. All of you leaders, past and present have failed Nigeria. We had Obasanjo, the Yorubas did not progress. We had you GEJ and the South/South and/or South/East did not progress. We have Buhari now and the North is still as backwards as ever! You are all greedy pigs!

abibun:
Guy do u have the fact to share with me? According to you am one of those giving them the impetus to loot, you that is not giving them the impetus what have u done to stop the looting?
The court is there, Buhari said is fighting corruption he should open files for them and not to be disturbing us with this, that are corrupt.

Stop spewing trash, Buhari, Obasanjo, GEJ, all of them are looters! For you to say just because they have not been convicted by the court means they are not is just plain BS! Wake up!

yinchar:
That's so childish of Sowumi...

I am a Yoruba man and we are not brought up to speak to elders like that

Even though some South-South people will be happy because they are PDP and have anything against Buhari or APC...

But let's call a spade a spade you don't talk to an elder like that irrespective of the region or political affiliations.

My friend will you keep quiet! So youths don't have the authority to call out the elder ones and expose their corrupt ways? WTF does seniority have to do with politics and responsible governance?

abibun:
What is this one saying? But it doesn't cost u a thing to open your mouth and Say Jonathan,Atiku are corrupt, when no competent court declared them corrupt

You are the definition of the Nigerian problem. Even when corruption and greed stares you in the face, you'll still use a foolish line like "Did they catch them" to justify the looters. All of them are corrupt, it is evident by the billions looted since independence, it's people like you that gives them the impetus to continue looting....SHAME!

Admin401:
You don't know how to argue. I never said only countries ran by white succeed. I never even implied that. And even when I mentioned Northern Nigerian, I wasn't implying muslims or arabs or whatever the fvck couldn't run a successful society, because Saudi Arabia and Dubia exist. So learn how to argue and stop spouting things I never said or implied. The argument was about white and blacks, finish. I don't know how managed to bring Malaysia into it for whatever reason.

Who said anything about Muslims? Why did you separate Northern Nigeria from Nigeria? In addition, by saying blacks could not run a successful nation, you indirectly implied that the whites are better at it, which was why I pointed out Malaysia and SA. Regardless, your argument lacks merit!

uvie66:
Oya name one country in world that have majority black population and in comparable to any G20 country in income per head.

This is a foolish question, weren't most of the black race colonized/enslaved? How then should they have the economy of a G20 nation? Turn the clock back to the 1400s or the 1300s and then ask your question again. Read up on the Malian Empire and a guy named Mansa Musa I.

Admin401:
lol, it is about black people. And don't mention SA because it was dominated by whites for a long time, and even till this day, they have white communities there. Ghana only has 24hrs light apart from that, Nigeria is better than GH, except for Northern Nigeria. Also, Mayalsia? When did that become an African country?


The problem with Nigeria is ingrained deep inside our subconcious. You won't believe the amount of people I've met, that couldn't tell the difference between what's "fundamentally" right or wrong. Our Morality compass is broken beyond repair.

Come on stop cherrypicking! If the problem is black people, why haven't SA turned into Nigeria since 1993 or so? Ghana is better than Nigeria in so many areas apart from electricity but I won't even dwell on them because they have a much lower population. Nigeria is Nigeria, which one is Northern Nigeria? I used Malaysia as a reference because you seem to think that only countries ran by whites excel which is a FALLACY! The part that I do agree with you is that corruption and greed is ingrained deep within our subconscious, unless it changes we are in deep poo!

Admin401:
Well, black people run your government, not whites.

It's not about black people, it's about greedy corrupt people. Look at Ghana, is it controlled by whites? What about South Africa or Malaysia? We have a greed/corruption problem in Nigeria, it won't end until people chnage their mentality.

BigIyanga:
STFU: Germany was in ruins after the WW11 and they got a loan from US-Marshall plan to rebuild their country.. BTW, Naija has earned 3x thru crude oil, what Germans got as a loan to rebuild rheir country

You're a dunce! Nigeria earned through crude oil but spends more servicing loans from IMF and subsidizing petrol, let's not talk about the military regime where much of the country's cash reserves were looted and the value of the Naira basically crashed. Your argument is like that of a child licking ice cream and wondering why it is melting....lol

Admin401:
Name one resource you didn't have? Fertile soil? Gold? Silver? Oil? Cocoa? Rubber? Coal? What resource didn't you have in Africa?

We were sitting on a gold mine. The only thing we didn't have was brain power.

How much money is spent on scientific research in Nigeria? How much do we invest in education? How does an engineering student invent or practice what was learned without stable electricity? How does a programmer or network analyst perfect their skills without stable electricity and/or internet? How much does the government invest in biochem trials? Even our local farmers do we empower them with the tools they need to become productive? We might have the resources but they are not readily available to those who can easily benefit from them. We have plenty of brain power but they are anguishly being supressed by lack of tools/opportunities. How do you explain a medical doctor beign average in Nigeria only to jet out and after just few years become one of the leading doctors in Alabama?

Admin401:
So what You think if we or any other tribe back then had the mental and physical capacity to do what America did (slavery), you really think we wouls do it? You think we some shinning example of morality?

It's a race to the top, if you can't compete you get fvcked in the ass Africa is not the only nation that got colonised but still bitch about it till today.

Einstein, faraday, telsa, newton, heisenberg, do you think they needed slaves to help them formulate their equations?

Blacks were only used as farm tools, the did zero brain work.

Who's talking about morality? We are talking about resources needed to advance a nation. You brought up these countries as a shining example of development and I informed you the catalyst which propelled their development. Compare the U.S. at 60 or 70 to Nigeria at its present state and you'll be surprised that we are actually developing at the expected rate. Now imagine if we could reduce corruption and retain ou best talents? What would hold us back from becoming as great as those advanced societies?

Admin401:
Germans and American's were churning out inventions before the advent of internet or electricity. Both were also inventions that we both can't do without.

Are you comparing nations with strong history to nations emerging from colonization? America at 60 or 70 was pathetic, the country evolved on the labor of slaves, immigrants and so on to become what it is today. in Nigeria we don't have such luxuries, so we must either emancipate ourselves or continue our endless self-pity fiasco!

nwanyionitsha:
You just spewed nonsense.
Just found out that you are a buharideen(courtesy Dele Momodu).

Hehehe....It's funny when you throw facts at people and they come back with lame rhetoric....lol

Admin401:
I thought that you would be mentioning Nigerian inventors or inventions.

No need, we all know that the Nigerian environment and government does not create a suitable atmosphere for inventions. No stable electricity, high speed internet no dey. No wonder all our talents are being tapped by other countries...lol

How can anyone blame the man? The useless parents still advised the daughter to stay in such a condition, probably because of the 1000 Naira he gives them monthly...SMH

udemzy101:
You still haven't answered my question sir, concerning what you said.


I disagree with you, Nigerians don't vote base on emotions /sympathy, they vote base on the political party they support, the vote base on ethnicity also vote base on the highest bidder.

When this present administration were dishing out propaganda, how many of them came out to ask how these things will be achieved?

This is the same mistake they are doing again, instead Nigerians are fighting on behalf of political parties and their flag bearers.

What you just wrote confirms that they vote based on emotions. If it wasn't about emotions then we would use pure logic but like you put it we vote based on ethnicity, political affiliations and so on, all these are emotional attachments. Now couple with the fact that we saw GEJ as a mna who had no shoes, Buhari as a poor man who could not afford to buy nomination form, these are sympathetic elements. When Nigerians start voting based on logic, we would be better off.

BigIyanga:
Another uninformed post..none of these companies were founded by immigrants

No but they rely on the brains of immigrants. Go and read up about the man who invented the fastest processor, go and read up about the search engine Algorithm which Google relies on and the brains behind it. For every success by these companies, there is a foreginer behind it. Even the CEO of Microsoft is a foreigner/immigrant so you are the UNINFORMED one my friend!

nwanyionitsha:
It is total bias to put Gej and Gmb on the same level. At least with Gej, there was a measure of progress.
The fact is that those(which happens to be most Nigerians) outside dont know the level of decay we are in.
Talk/relate with an insider.
Some ministries and parastatal have been so destroyed under this administration......

With all due respect, what you wrote is BS! The systematic decay of the economy under GEJ led to some of the failures of the Buhari administration. Granted we all thought Buhari was capble but he chose a wrong path which has made things worse; that does not absolve GEJ. You are making the mistake of thinking GEJ and Buhari met the economy under the same circumstances, even Okonjo sounded the alarm that Nigeria was going broke in 2014, have we all forgotten so easily? Please please let's call a spade a spade, they both failed woefully!

udemzy101:
Well, I'll like you to compare the PhD holder with no shoes administration with this dullard present government and tell me the difference and please don't give me the fighting corruption or looting was much during the last administration.

In terms of economy development, tell us the difference.

That's the point, they are both inefficient, both clueless and both votes were ill used. It means it has nothing to do with intelligence, Nigerians vote based on emotions/sympathy.