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Mindfulness:
@bold And if it wasn't, people would have the right to voice out their dissatisfaction.

@red No, it is not! There is no freedom in Saudi Arabia, for instance. There is wealth in Saudi Arabia but there is no freedom.

I repeat again, you are entitled to your opinion. No arguments here buddy

Mindfulness:
I have to provide evidence for what? Am I the one making assertions and acting like they are facts?
You are the one here demanding of people to buttress their points with evidence. Before you do so, FIRST do what you expect of others. Until then you remain sentimental, mildly put.

Now, genius, what is so difficult for you to prove your points? Let me tell you. You can't.



So the fact that there is no mass revolt means that the most Saudis are happy with their government?
And because people hundreds of years ago decided to operate on Sharia law, it means that most people today still want to operate on Sharia law?

Can you see how stupid you sound?

You're the one sounding silly, just like hundreds of years ago some old men agreed on democracy in the USA and it is still accepted today. Stop making argument where there is none,unless you have facts that proves me wrong, I'll maintain my stance! My friend you don't have to agree with me, it's a free world okay!

Mindfulness:
Prove otherwise what you have not been able to prove?

Genius, explain to us how the Saudis agreed on their laws.

Like I said you are the one trying to counter my statement so the burden is on you to provide evidence. My evidence is that the Saudi people unlike other Middle Eastern countries are yet to revolt against their government which means the government is obviously doing something right. Saudi operates on sharia law and if majority of the people never agreed to abide by such laws it wouldn't exists, I don't know what you don't understand about that!

Mindfulness:
You said Saudis agreed on their laws. How did they agree on their laws? FACTS, please.

@bold
Unless you cannot buttress the assertion with evidence, it remains an assertion and not a fact. Learn the difference and come back again.

I don't need to argue with you, until we see a revolt in Saudi Arabia from the people, I maintain that the people are happy with their government. The burden is on you to prove otherwise not me

egobetatoday:
nonsense? u mean the normal islam way of being 'peaceful' ? i know u are not smart enougb to know i've taken you up on this months back. u are too slow for my liken. i didnt give u verses cos u dont need them. All u have said are lies i will be stupid enough to help u out. this is what i mean...pls give the verse in tbe bible that states that Rebecca was 3yrs old? i know u cannot get a verse to support you but will go a different direction. Just one question, which verse in the bible * i know he will strat ranting now* that was why i said u were deluded but because u are slow u didnt understand. the question is the verse?

Show me the verse in the Quran that points to Aisha's exact age at the time of marriage to the prophet? I'm going to start using your own words against you since people like you like mixing sentiments with facts!

egobetatoday:
the evidence is there? lol
u can keep to your ideas so long as it suits your delusion. Scholar indeed! A scholar who doesnt do a thorough reseach is no scholar. your type say the world is flat from their research when we hve evidence to the contrary. lol. so, how many wars did mohammed lead? How many wives did he marry legally? how many did he marry illegally, i mean booties of wars?

Everything you've said is nonsense, there was a guy that argued similarly to you but the difference between you and him is that he actually provided a few facts. All you know how to do is spew trash, you can't even back up your point eloquently, guy abeg go sleep!

egobetatoday:
oh, so its all about judaism now? its not christianity anymore? definitely, christianity is not your mate! You can even believe that they married foetuses in their mothers wombs. we do understand you need to cover up for islam. Islam always trying to justify their evil but ending up holding unto mere grasses. lol. the bible didnt mention their ages but you can guess to justify your delusion. So, what is the name of that slave wife that poisoned mohammed. nawa for this una prophet oo. e too like women unlike jesus.

You are truly confused! So Isaac and Moses are not mentioned in the Bible or Christians no longer live by the Bible? Confused human being

Mindfulness:
How did people in Saudi Arabia agree on their laws? Is it a representative democracy now? Have I missed the latest news?

Who told you democracy is the only acceptable form of governance? Just like the Yoruba people respected and obeyed their kings, majority of the Saudi Arabian people are content with their ruling monarchy.

aribisala0:
You are a true Muslim. Confirmed!!

On the contrary, I go to church or mosque, I don't discriminate, one God as far as I'm concerned

aribisala0:
Idiotic rhetoric will not get you anywhere in Life. You have no monopoly of labels.
Why are you swearing at me Are you mad? If you want to have a conversation do so . If you want to swear go and swear at your family members . I certainly will not accept you saying "who the hell are you " at me. I promise you in real life your father cannot address me like that if he sees me and I am not boasting. So be civil. If you find my argument offensive just walk away that is peaceful way but often you use that word as hypocrites. Saying peace peace whilst being more violent than anyone

Lol....empty drum always beats the loudest, who the hell are you is not swearing, it's letting you know how insignificant you are in terms of that particular discussion. My father is retired now after serving the U.S government for over 20 years and if your father was half the man he is you would know the true meaning of respect, at most you would be in your 40s, to bring my father into the conversation shows you are out of your mind. Wake up my guy stop all that nonsense, you are a nobody as far as I'm concerned, in real life your entire clan cannot measure up to what I've achieved so far, so stop it and stop embarrassing yourself!

aribisala0:
And there lies the bias you mentioned. Those formerly "christian" countries reformed and became more tolerant allowing mosques and whatever all over their countries . It is official in virtually every Islamic nation to treat non Muslims as inferior in fact one even tried to prohibit Christians from using the word Allah. There are no mosques in Saudi Arabia and so on.

You saying I don't know what I am talking about is not an argument it is also foolish because I could engage you and we would end up with

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We can do that til 2019 so please leave that story and deal with the issues raised. In 2019 women should not be forced to cover themselves or abducted for marriage or prevented from driving etc in the name of religion. People should be free to say what they like . Maybe Muslims have not noticed but when you call a thing "IDOL" that is no less an insult than any "insult" to Islam. When you say Jesus is a man and not a God That may be perceived as insults.What is my view. You should be able to say those things but you must also accept any insult to your religion. Since God is so powerful let him punish offenders.Stop the violence!!

Sentimental rhetoric will get you no where in life instead stick to facts. Who the hell are you to say women shouldn't be forced to cover up or prevented from driving? If it's the law of the land and the people there have agreed to follow such laws, who cares about your opinion? This is the problem most of the Islamic communities have with the Western world and those who believe that their way of life is the best for everyone. People in Saudi and other Islamic nation have accepted the law,my friend stop arguing based on your own sentiments please stop it!

Furthermore, it's ignorant to attribute the way minorities feel in a certain place or country to a religion. Religion has got nothing to do with it! If you are a compassionate person, you would treat people right. If you are not then you'll treat people wrong regardless of religion. America is a predominantly Christian country where Muslims are looked upon with suspicions, should we blame it on Christianity the reason for such bigotry? If we were to go by your example then all Christian Americans are evil because they made a minority feel inferior, dude stop it!

aribisala0:
I do not have a problem with Muslims as individuals but there is a phenomenon called Group Think. You may wish to check it up. When Muslims constitute a majority then the Group think is the resultant observed effect that is apparent to neutral unbiassed observers. Very few non-Muslims want to live in such places and only do so out of desperation or very limited choice. You can argue that till the cows come home but that is the truth. In such a system these so called good Muslims are predictable by their acquiescence to all these monstrosities

You still don't know what you are talking about! Any place where one group or belief is a majority, the minorities always feel neglected or unsafe. Trust me I know what groupthinking is and it is an undesired effect especially in management, based on your theory since Christians represent majority of those in Vatican city and since we've had cases upon cases of child molestation associated with high ranking members, it is safe to say that Catholics are condoning the attrocities, come on even you can see how lame that is! The fact still remains you don't judge the existence of many based on the actions of a few. Muslims represents 1.7 Billion of the world's population, extremists makes up less than 5% of that, extremists exists in all religion and that's all there is to it!

aribisala0:
I am certainly biassed towards the lifestyle in former Christian countries because I would rather live in England France or Germany than Saudi Arabia Pakistan or Afghanistan. The reason is simple . I do not have to become Christian and they are officially secular and no longer "Christian" they have learnt the evil of mixing politics with state affairs and reformed while Muslims still want to be stoning and beheading

You detecting bias as you say is evidence of a poor argument.
Some Muslims may think differently but the subject of this thread is about institutional abductions of non-Muslims in Nigeria by Muslims so let us not lose sight of that by ad hominem and sentimental attacks on my person.

The fact that these abductions have a mien of an imprimatur of Emirs and Sultans etc is and indication that it is "Official" and also of what we could expect if we are not vigilant or if Muslims had a significant majority is the country. Y[b]es some Muslims may think differently but the official position appears to be that young Muslim men can abduct women from the south and seek protection from Emirs that is the issue here not how bad Christians are [/b]. No doubt Christians perform a lot of evil my point is IT IS NOT RELEVANT HERE and bringing it up is not only wrong but dishonest

You are entitled to your opinion and I'm entitled to mine. Of course Christian references are relevant here, you do not label a religion dangerous or evil and expect people not to compare it to what a majority of users here consider good or pure! The fact that you think the Muslim community makes it official the abduction of young women shows clearly that we can never see eye to eye. I prefer to argue based on facts and not sentiments. The fact that you label the actions of a few to mean the voice of the majority shows you do not know what you are talking about. You are yet to allude to the fact that if Nigeria enforced the laws in the Constitution such a thing can never happen, it is government's failure to enforce laws that led to most menaces we have today in Nigeria. I have many Muslim friends that are decent, hardworking and honest,my great grandfather was an Imam, he did so much good for his community and was very tolerant of people of different religion, my dad is the same way. I deal with executives and middle management personnel from some of the top companies in the U.S, some of them are strong Muslims and still participate in religious gatherings involving the christian and Jewish communities. Are they not reading the same Quran? Your assertion that the Islamic world approves kidnapping is not only false but just plain IGNORANT!

aribisala0:
Let us focus o Islam . It is no defence to say Okafor stole a goat last year when you are charged with stealing a goat this year.

I am not Christian and when any Christian like Reverend King commits crimes in the name of his religion we deal with that .

This argument you put forward is a defence by distraction and irrelevance. Saying you use a book to expose hypocrisy is absurd society is composed of Christians Traditionalists and those who do not believe in anything.
They all condemn many of these acts which Islam clings on to.

Christianity itself has a violent recent history which I won't go into here because it is NOT RELEVANT the fact is Christianity has been purged from the govement in virtually all previously Christian nations. While Islam still insists on SHARIA LAW still insists on political power and relevance and refuses to reform and acknowledge modern life. That is the fundamental issue and that is why we have these abductions because Muslims believe that the Quran is infallible and not negotiable a position that is not compatible with any modern constitution or state and that is why some Muslims advocate for the totalitarianism or ISIS etc
So the issue here is not to defend Islam by saying Christianity is just as bad .That won't work but to acknowledg that there is a problem and we cannot continue to live in a world where people insist that their religious books are LITERALLY TRUE,INFALLIBLE and NOT SUBORDINATE to constitutions

You keep saying you are not a Christian but I detect a bit of bias in your write-up. You're still not getting it, laws are often representative of the society in which they are enacted. Sharia Law is not accepted everywhere and the countries where they are accepted it is supported by the majority just like the U.S where government officials are sworn in by the Bible. Now to the bold part of your post, you really need to stop generalizing people. There are some Muslims who are thinking differently, we have moderate Muslims incorporating Western lifestyles with the religion and it is working out for them. The problem we have is radical Islam but don't get it twisted there are radicals in every religion. It's funny you brought up ISIS, you do realize that they don't qualify as Muslims and even Islamic scholars are condemning their acts globally. You might say that well they call themselves Islamic States and are against other religions but if you watched them closely and see how they kill defenseless people, you can conclude that they are not Muslims and are definitely not fighting Jihad. For how can you fight Jihad against defenseless people? Finally I want to open your eyes to what is truly going on. Take a look at Boko Haram, ISIS and other extremists, they all have one thing in common. They are all empowered by political,traditional/cultural and governmental entities. ISIS was created due to the take down of Saddam Hussein, we all know Saddam was the glue that held the Middle East in check most times. What of Boko Haram? Were they not empowered by those in politics, did they not rise out of the killing of their leader and frustrations which arose afterwards. My point remains this, it is easy to blame a religion for all the havoc and cruelty caused by human greed but the truth remains that religion itself was created to guide humans but that does not mean we do not have the free will to determine what is right or what is wrong. You do not need to tell me it's wrong to behead children, you do not need to tell me it's right to help the poor. Religion is nothing but guidance those who make it compulsory are the extremists in our midst.

ovo4u:
That's just one of the big problem with the majority of muslim, just a simple question u couldn't answer me, how old was Aisha when Muhammed got married to her and would you willing to give out your daughter in that age for marriage? When u answer me this question I will answer you yours.......

If that's all you took from my comment then you seriously need to learn comprehension. to answer your question I don't know the exact age but she was definitely at the age of consent due to laws back then. Now if your idea to judge all Muslims based on what happened over 1,000 years ago then you have a problem. Go through this thread and read my posts, you'll discover that even in the supposedly pure religion of Christianity we have references of underage marriages and violent references but that does not make all Christians evil. Times have changed and the practice is no longer acceptable in society, the fact that a few still believe in it does not speak for the majority!

aribisala0:
Well not every critic is a Christian and not every critic believes in the Bible. Because the Biblical "prophets" practised evil is no excuse or justification for Islamic evil.The logical conclusion is not that either of them are from God but that they are both evil.

Anyway we are discussing Islam here and it certainly has a history of sexual Molestation and and violence of a genocidal hue.

Anyway Moses ,Isaac and Joseph whom you mention were not Christians They were Jews or Something else as the case may be. Christianity is an entirely different doctrine which I am not here to explain or justify because I do not subscribe to it either but for the record Christianity does not accept the law of Moses

There are so many things wrong with your assertions that it's causing me to giggle while reading. Number one,Christian or Muslim does not matter, what matters is that both books are more similar than people think and that is why I used Christianity to expose the hypocrisy. Furthermore, no one is saying Moses, Isaac and Joseph were Christians but they are key figures in Christianity with references to them in the Bible hence the correlation. You can't talk about the present or future without referencing the past, this is a universal law. Now to conclude, I think you are missing the reason why I've used Christianity as a reference. People(Mostly Christians) seems to think that Islam is drastically different from Christianity and that the main difference lies in the opinion that Islam is more violent than Christianity. It takes only a deep dive in the Bible to realize that molestation,underage marriages, violence and other vices are clearly evident in the Bible but does that make Christians evil? No! So why should Islam be different? This is why I said religion is not the problem but man's interpretation of it!

egobetatoday:
keep displaying your ignorance of the bible. whatever your imams tell you in the mosque, make sure you accept it hook, line , sinker, the fish and even the fisherman join am. Dont research, so that you can come and show your ignorance on social media. The moment u accept that christianity and islam are very different you will begin to spend much time researching on your religion and devising ways to solve the myriad of social ills created by your religion. just an advice!

Unlike you, I'm a devoted scholar not brainwashed by religion or religious leaders. The evidence is out there if only you can get off your lazy a** and look for it!

egobetatoday:
Abbey, you want to confuse us but we cant be confused. Islam is not the problem but interpretation? where do you people keep your knowledge of the quran when you begin arguing? ok. Did Mohammed marry a 9yr old? so what are you talking about? The northerners have not misinterpreted it, rather they learnt from him! Did Mohammed go to wars ( and definitely killed people)? then ISIS, Alqaeda and boko haram learnt from him! Do people become evil when they are converted to islam? e.g Michael Adefolaju, khadijat etc. My people usually say the day a mad man discovers he is mad then he is on the way to recovery. Sadly, muslims have refused to accept where their problem originated. Mohammed gave u all different bad examples. You can decide to remai n a muslim but atleast accept where the problem is so that you can easily correct it.

Did Isaac and Joseph marry an underage child? Yes. Did Moses and other prophets in the Bible kill in the name of God? Yes.

“In Numbers 31:15-18, after his soldiers had killed all of the men among the Midianites, Moses ordered his army officers to kill all of the male children, kill all of the nonvirgin females but to save alive all of the virgin girls for his troops. Prior to this, the Israelites had taken all of the animals and goods of the Midianites and then burned all of their towns. If genocide or "ethnic cleansing" is a war crime, then this act of Moses was clearly a war crime…What possible reason could Moses have given in order to justify this horrendous act of genocide? After all, wasn't he the great "law giver"? He claimed that Yahweh, the God of Israel, ordered him to do this, because the Midianites worshiped a deity named Baal Peor. The Midianites felt that Baal Peor was nature's god, the creator of the universe, whereas the Israelites believed that their god Yahweh was the creator. .. So, in effect, what we have here is a demonization of those people who refer to the creator by a different name. These people are accused of worshiping a false god.

It's difficult to help another man see when you can't remove the speck in your own eyes!

naijadeyhia2:
Your confusion is factory fitted. I suppose a 3 yr rebecca fetched water from a well by herself and fed not only Abrahams servant but also fetched for all the camels he came with. I also suppose a 3 yr old Rebecca was old enough to be asked by her father if she would go with th servant and she was old enough to agree.
Maybe your quran in its normal twisted way twisted th story but my Bible pegged Rebeccas age at marriage at 20 if you calculate from the age she died and how old Isaac was when they got married.

Show me the place in the Bible that confirms she was 20 years of age at the time of marriage? We all know that Isaac married at the age of 40, 3 years after his mother's death. News of Rebecca's birth reached Abraham at the time of Sarah's death, let's say in the olden days it was hard to get news from one point to another, let's say it took 2 to 5 years for Abraham to hear the news and an additional 2 years to reach Rebecca's father, this still leaves Rebecca at a maximum age of 10 when married. Either way you look at it 3 or 10, your beloved Bible supports underage marriages. I know the truth is hard but accept thy fate/faith!

preggi:
Firstly, using vulgar words tells me where you are coming from.
Secondly, have u ever lived in the northern part of Nigeria? If no, then you wouldn't understand the what the Ejeh's must have gone thru.
FYI the kano and Sokoto abduction didn't happen yesterday.
I am sure one day you will become a parent and then you will understand that a lost child is worst than a dead one.

Peace out

I probably have more family members in the North than you do and they are smart enough to realize that this situation requires constant harassment of the police,media and all other relevant agencies. For goodness sake what don't you understand here, why has it taken 6 years for this issue to receive media attention? You can say that they are poor and didn't know better but ignorance is not an excuse.They are poor parents and that's the bottom line!

ovo4u:
But you dont see any christain going to any country to import underage girls just because the Aboki has enough money to pay the parent off for the young innocent girl and on the other hand I still have not see any christain going to the north to import some muslim underage girl and bring them down to the the south and married them and convert them to christain.

If I were to meet a girl which is originally muslim and I as a christian, I wouldnt boader if she will be going to the mosque to do her prayer and I going to my church, let people decided what they want to be and stop supporting rubbish. We will never have a better world if you guys can't condemn this kind of act by your muslim brothers.

You've been found guilty of generalization and as such are not worthy of my time but nonetheless I will educate you a little, as a product of a Christian mother and a Muslim father I find your comment highly offensive. The problem here is not religion, the problem is tradition and lack of a better government. In advanced countries there are laws in place to protect underage girls, there are laws in place against kidnapping and so on but here in Nigeria laws are either non existent or not enforced. Now to my next point, you seem not to realize that Muslims in Saudi Arabia are different from Muslims in Lagos or Muslims in Indonesia or Northern Nigeria. Each society interprets religion according to the tradition and culture of the people there. In the North, marrying a 15 year old girl is seen as the norm,in the South it is seen as a taboo. Are you saying Muslims in the South are not following the Quran? Are you saying Muslims in the North are richer than those in the South? You see my friend, Islam is not the problem, the problem is interpretation.

preggi:
When one of yours is abducted, I hope it will be another publicity stunt and then you will be well seated.

Parents will identify with the Ejeh family travails. I doubt if you are a parent

Shut your stinking mouth! Any parent that allows his or her child to be taken away and keeps quiet for over 6 years is not worthy of being called a parent. Responsible parents that I know would have raised hell and moved mountains just to get the child back especially when the culprit is known. So before you bore me with your useless rhetoric, shove it!

naijadeyhia2:
Rebecca was 20yrs old when isaac married her as against mohammads craving for a 6yr old to be his baby mama

Go and read your bible very well, Rebecca was 3 years old when promised to a 40 year old Isaac.

ovo4u:
How old was Aisha when Muhammed got married to her? is that not the same direction those muslims all over the world are taking? answer me pls

How old was Rebecca when Isaac married her?

“Miss Ejeh was allegedly abducted by one Hajiya Zarau on the 31st day of October 2009 and taken to an Imam’s house for the purpose of conversion to Islam.

Why now? Was there no government or NGOs between 2009 to 2015? A 14 year old in 2009 is now 20 or 21 years of age, would have probably given birth numerous times and by now accepted her fate. What were the parents or family members doing since then? Abeg make this people go sit down jaare, another publicity stunt!

scachy:
Laugh harder
http://www.nigerianbulletin.com/threads/nigeria-power-supply-drops-by-1-647mw.185145/

Illiteracy is seriously disturbing you. Even the article that you posted shows that it was just a temporary drop due to vandalism and that the previous month we were generating over 5000MW. Get out!

The nation achieved its peak generation of 5,074.70MW on February 2, when 4,541.85MW was generated and 4,447.88MW was sent out.

The drop in generation has caused severe reduction in load allocation from the national grid to the distribution firms.

He should have been detained more than a few days and given a couple of smacks maybe then his head go correct. Which one be ISI again? Nigerians always wanting to be more religious than the pope himself....rubbish!

Unfortunately most computers running slow are not plagued with start up problems but configuration and msconfig will only cure less than half of that. If your computer is low on RAM and you love playing online games or visiting Facebook then the solution is an upgrade. If your computer is slow due to a virus or malware then the solution is to do a clean install of Windows and buy a stronger anti-virus. Finally if your computer is slow because it is old then no amount of upgrade or antivirus can help you, spend the cash and get a new computer!

It's okay to discipline your child but this? This is just cruelty!

scachy:
U r probably not in Nigeria, it's obvious. But let me educate u small, elections under GEJ that was by and large free n fair has been reduced to a blood bath under Buhari's watch, Bayelsa n Ondo State Gov. Election is reference point,Job creation has become job loss in thousands, foreign investors withdrawing from Nigeria on weekly basis, inflation above 50%, petrol scarcity is no longer news, power supply dropped from above 4000 MW to less than 2,500 MW, security challenges extended beyond BH (that innocent people can be slaughtered for hours without any intervention from security personnels) , high exchange rate is no longer news, innocent n peaceful protester been shot dead in d hands of security agents,disobedient to judicial order is no longer news, no single campaign promises has been delivered in d last 9 months,fastest growing economy in Africa is now a laughing stock, I can go on n on... was that how bad America was under Obama?
Pls tell us what downward economic /social hardship to expect more so that we ll fasten our seat belt y we awaits this "never been seen change of APC "

I can't help but laugh, my guy stop insulting my intelligence! See facts are different from sentiments and what you wrote above is pure rubbish! I could spend a whole day picking your points apart but I'm a very busy man and will only give you two points of correction. See I could care less about protesters being shot or election violence, those are not the things we voted Buhari for. But in terms of economic indices such as inflation and power generation, guy I must call you out on your blatant lie!

Point 1: Power generation drops below 2,500MW, this is bullsh*t as of February the figure is about 3,600 MW
http://www.esi-africa.com/news/nigerian-power-generation-drops-even-further/

Point 2: Inflation rate above 50%, guy you can lie o! As of February inflation rate is less than 11%
http://www.tradingeconomics.com/nigeria/inflation-cpi

Under Obama in 2008 unemployment rate was over 13%(compared to under 4% during the Clinton era), banks were shutting down, companies moving out of the U.S, the stock exchange market crashed and more people lost their homes. It took him almost 3 years to stop the bleeding. Perhaps next time you should get your facts straight instead of arguing things way beyond your comprehension!

Lady you are the classic example of a Nigerian Bimbo! You didn't learn lesson from your first marriage, you decided to get back together with someone with a sketchy personality. Haven't you realized by now that the most vulnerable women are those who pressure guys with talks of marriage and so on? Instead of you to take things slowly, you allowed one guy to use you as testing and now you say you've been cursing him. Well I have bad news for you, your curses won't have any effect on him as you were a willing participant. Now enough criticism it's time to move on, I suggest you move closer to God and forget about relationships or marriage for now because most guys would see you as an easy target for you are truly emotionally imbalanced.

BushidoBlue:
Puh leese..
Forgive me


I didn't know I was chatting with a employee.

When you start a business come back and tell me how comfortable the economy is.

Dude stop insulting yourself, I don't know you and you don't know me but I can tell you comfortably that I started my first business at the age of 19 while at 300 level in O.O.U selling Forex e-books and trading lessons, since then I've started several businesses with some failing and others succeeding. My investments spans across Nigeria and the U.S, yes I'm an employee of a Fortune 500 company but I also have much at stake in how well Nigeria does economically.